My Speech From English Class (Hitler-Bush)

[AC.wAkeBoArDin.06]

Ok my speech may seem long but ull be entertained when ur reading it... dont worry... And i had this go along with a Powerpoint... so if it ever says like, as seen in this picture... i was refering to the background... and i think i took all parts of it out but there may be 1... and yeah...





My Speech today is on How George W. Bush follows Adolf Hitler's Tactics and why he should be removed from office.

You may be saying to yourself. Adam, come on. Comparing a man like hitler to our president. Its unheard of. But what lies in the facts make this comparison clear. Hitler and Bush both had many things in common with there tactics and ways of running the country.

Here are a few comparisons.

Both Hitler and Bush were elected, but not by majority. In bush�s case, he ran against Gore and took lesser votes than Gore, but still won the term in office.

Both Men have had a sneak attack on them. As we all know, 9/11 was a sneak attack against America. America had to go through a tough time repairing from the losses. The Reichstag Fire was an attack on Germany from one German to the country. It was an act of rebelion and inflicted heavy damage on Germany.

Both rely heavily on propiganda. There are many movies that Hitler showed the German soliers about Jews. Making them look really bad and like scum. President Bush uses many tactics to control the country. His propiganda methods mainly involve the news. Bush has made it so many people in this country, will be afraid if they were next to a muslim. As said yesterday, all of you with the exception of Mr. Gallagher, you would feel scared if you saw a muslim on the same plane as you.

Shock and awe is a big tactic used by both Hitler and Bush. They use an example that will shock the enemy and hit them hard. This was a tactic Hitler used which later, Bush used in the war in Iraq and Afganistan.

Both Repeat lies over and over and over untill people actualy believe that they are true. Such as Bush told America that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction which they didnt have. And Hitler told Germany that Jews were the root of their problem, which was not true. But he repeated it over and over that people believed that it is true.

When Hitler said to Germany, we have a big threat and must eliminate them, people took it seriously. But that threat he said once, was Poland. Poland was not a threat to them at all. And neither is Iraq to America. But we are in there making it our buisness. You may be saying, Germany took Poland for land and living space, America is not doing that. But what we are doing is depleting there oil. We are taking oil that is not ours. Just how Germany took land that is not theirs.

In war, they both had many fronts. We all started with one, but then moved to more. Germany had Russia on one side, France on another, America comming in too, and they were in a squeeze. America started with one front, but then moved on to have many more. We now have Iraq, Afganistan, and starting one in North Korea.

They both attacked a country to take something from them. Where Germany took land from Poland and other places, America is taking oil from Iraq.

Germany Had a holocaust to kill all the Jews, gypsys, and many more people. These people were innocent civilians but Hitler killed them. As America is fighting its wars, we are hurting and killing innocent people. As in a few news articles, is shows we are injuring civilians but are not paying for hospital bills.

Treaties are signed to help the country out in time of war. Germany had treaties preventing them from going to war with Russia and war in general. But these treaties were all broken, just as America broke the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, the Biological Weapons Convention, the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, the Convention on the Prohibition of Land Mines, the Chemical Weapons Convention, the Kyoto Global Warming Accord, and the International Criminal Court. All these treaties were scrapped by Bush.

Germans inflicted mass killing ratios just as Bush is doing. For every one American dead in Iraq, there is fourty Iraqi's killed by Americans.

Hitler Convinced Germany that Jews are the root of their problems. Is Bush not doing that to Muslims today?

Not only are they the root of our problems, but Bush has made it today so if you see a Muslim today, you will automaticly think it is a terrorist. Just when they are normal civilians like you.

Bush convinced America saying Hussein is related to Iraq when he clearly had no connection.

Concentration camps were used in Poland to hold the Jews captive and kill off outragius numbers of them. In Iraq today there are concentration camps. They is one in Abu Gharib and in Guantanamo. And many inteogation camps everywhere.

In these interogation camps it has been released that at least 20 people have been killed.

And it has also been released that 20 more Iraqi's were killed of reasons to be anounced in the future. Which still havent been released.

My presentation shows that how Bush follows the ways of Hitler and acts upon it. But when history repeats itself, do we notice? And why do we realize we have a man in office who acts just like one of the hated person in this world. So my presentation shows why Bush should be taken out of office, because if not, it may be to late.







This is my speech in english.... does ne1 else see where im comming from?
I researched this for a few weeks and im like wow... this could make a good debate speech in english class.... so yeah

Do u all agree with what i am saying?

[Dante]

Ada,m, what an awesome speech, I think theres some things to be brushed up on, but what an awesome speech.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

I voted for option B, which is probably no suprise. You know I usually dont split apart people's posts like this, but im feeling good about myself right now.

Both Hitler and Bush were elected, but not by majority. In bush�s case, he ran against Gore and took lesser votes than Gore, but still won the term in office.

If you don't like the way the founding fathers wrote the constitution go suck it


The Reichstag Fire was an attack on Germany from one German to the country. It was an act of rebelion and inflicted heavy damage on Germany.

Hitler himself started the Richstag fire so he could then blame it on the communists and gain more support for himself


Bush has made it so many people in this country, will be afraid if they were next to a muslim

BS, noone is afraid of muslims like you say, and its not like its Bush's doing. there are tons of muslims at my school, is anyone scared? of course not


Such as Bush told America that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction which they didnt have

although that wasnt the case, he wasnt lying. to lie he had to withold the truth, which is absolutely impossible for you to prove


But what we are doing is depleting there oil.

Congratulations, if you ever go onto OPEC's website and read some of their statistics you will find that Iraq is producing less oil since the war started than they were before we were there.


We are taking oil that is not ours. Just how Germany took land that is not theirs.

wrong, were taking oil that is ours. its the same amount of oil weve been taking for decades. were not like the only country who they export oil to. oil is their entire economy, and it gets shipped all over the world legally

These people were innocent civilians but Hitler killed them. As America is fighting its wars, we are hurting and killing innocent people

It was hitlers public policy to exterminate the jews. he made speeches in front of his country detailing his final solution. when was the last time you saw george bush on tv explaining that the entire goal of our government is to kill civilians? thats right, never

America broke the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, the Biological Weapons Convention, the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty, the Convention on the Prohibition of Land Mines, the Chemical Weapons Convention, the Kyoto Global Warming Accord, and the International Criminal Court

america can do whatever the fuck it wants. almost every single important international treaty was written by us anyways. you know theres nothing you can do about us either


Germans inflicted mass killing ratios just as Bush is doing. For every one American dead in Iraq, there is fourty Iraqi's killed by Americans.

I see this as a compliment, all your emphasizing is our efficient, powerful, and deadly army. thanks :)

Bush has made it today so if you see a Muslim today, you will automaticly think it is a terrorist

Explain to me how one could pull off such a feat. and its no secret that like every single terrorist IS muslim. dont you understand? not all muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are muslim. Think for a moment, when was the last time youve ever heard of a terrorist attack in any country during your whole life that didnt involve people of the Islamic religion?

Bush convinced America saying Hussein is related to Iraq when he clearly had no connection.

I know you probably didnt mean this, because OF COURSE HES CONNECTED TO IRAQ HE WAS THEIR DICTATOR :)


Concentration camps were used in Poland to hold the Jews captive and kill off outragius numbers of them. In these interogation camps it has been released that at least 20 people have been killed.

HOw can you compare the deaths of 20 people to those 4 million deaths that happened at Auschwitz alone?





Sorry i had to dissect your post like that, but i feel that your post was an attack on my country (which i must defend)

[AC.wAkeBoArDin.06]

i live in America dude... i live in America and i am an American... but i believe our Leader is messing up big big time

haha yeah and i meant Hussain had no connections to Al-Quida

[Gothic_Knight]

Hmm...some of those points are a little rough, some are agreeable...

However, this is a bad comparison. Comparing Bush to a retard is probably a better comparison, not a facist. They can still be compared, but not as easily.

And about Gore losing, that's because of a relatively flawed 200 + year old system that's still in effect. It was used because it was hard to travel around campaigning. Now, however, it can be done, so people are trying to get the electoral collage removed.

[Dante]

as I said there r somethings that need to be brushed up on....but great speech nonetheless.

[AC.wAkeBoArDin.06]

thnx :D

[boognish]

big problem, the whole bush lied. people lied to bush bush believed bush told. we are not taking oil. if we were wouldnt the gas prices be down? bush didnot use the media. how the hell would he have pulled that off? he has no control over the media plus most of the media is against him, so how i ask you?
and none of the iraqis are "innocent" to be "innocent" they would be against the insergents. against the people that kill, maim, and torture them. but time and time again a family of iraqis are protecting, feeding, nutruing the same people that they want out. when we first went to iraq everyone was thankful we got there. the further along we got, the more the insurgents convinced people we were bad. the unarmed peoples are just as bad as the armed, because the unarmed "look" harmless all the while hiding 20 people willing to blow themselves up to defend the beliefs of some crazy god. and dont go saying that we can talk with the iraqis. muslims, really muslims believe that anyone that isnt a muslim should die and go to hell faster. the iraqi people grew up and only know to kill other people. does anyone here know how "leaders" are chosen in the middle east? well when one leader "dies" another man comes and kills off all opposition and sets his family in the old ones place. death, blood and carnage is the olny thoughts, feelings and actions the iraqis know. you cant talk to a mna that is more than willing to strap 90 pounds of TNT to his chest.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

i really liked your post boognish :)

[Gothic_Knight]

big problem, the whole bush lied. people lied to bush bush believed bush told. we are not taking oil. if we were wouldnt the gas prices be down? bush didnot use the media. how the hell would he have pulled that off? he has no control over the media plus most of the media is against him, so how i ask you?
and none of the iraqis are "innocent" to be "innocent" they would be against the insergents. against the people that kill, maim, and torture them. but time and time again a family of iraqis are protecting, feeding, nutruing the same people that they want out. when we first went to iraq everyone was thankful we got there. the further along we got, the more the insurgents convinced people we were bad. the unarmed peoples are just as bad as the armed, because the unarmed "look" harmless all the while hiding 20 people willing to blow themselves up to defend the beliefs of some crazy god. and dont go saying that we can talk with the iraqis. muslims, really muslims believe that anyone that isnt a muslim should die and go to hell faster. the iraqi people grew up and only know to kill other people. does anyone here know how "leaders" are chosen in the middle east? well when one leader "dies" another man comes and kills off all opposition and sets his family in the old ones place. death, blood and carnage is the olny thoughts, feelings and actions the iraqis know. you cant talk to a mna that is more than willing to strap 90 pounds of TNT to his chest. :? No...just...no...that is complete prejudice...no...

[maximan]

I hate bush and all, but he shouldn't be put in the same context as Hitler...

[Millermagic]

Nicely written, however, I disagree completely with the whole thing. Hitler and Bush were completely different. I could go on for hours on hitler (I know alot about him) and how he is different that Bush. If you are saying that Bush acted on propiganda, guess where he got it from. He got his fake information from Clinton who killed our army and our intelligence. But no, they are different in many ways.

[Ravenous]

Great work adam :D Ive always thought bush was a complete idiot, this sorta sums it up. Urghhh god cosmos your avatar is really ugly.

[Dante]

maximan i love ur avatar

[Ravenous]

Me too :D

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya i like mine better

[nwshc]

Hitler wanted to take over the world, we do not. We went to war to keep US safe. Hitler went to war to become ruler of the world.

[DouggyO.o]

i thouhgt it was cool!!!

[cheese1234]

The speech is great. THis is mroe of a opinion speech though. alot is opinions but I totally agree with it. Although cosmos is right about Auschwitz we need to look at what will happen for the furture. americans have different opinions on foreighn countries and vice versa. overall great speech and excellent wording.

[Dante]

ya i like mine better

this isnt a competition

[AC.wAkeBoArDin.06]

Guys u understand i put this in the debate forum for a reason... because its 2 sided....

If i wanted you all to believe me id put it in the WPR but i want people to against what im saying... so u dont neet to start a fight guys... and please talk civily about it.... By arguing and insulting at making fun of others... isnt what i put this here for... can we keep this clean please?

[nwshc]

Everyone should bow down to Bush and his greatness!

[Anonymous]

bush lied, thousands died!!!!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

hahah untrue. bush said something that wasnt true, and yes, thousands of terrorists died. i cant believe you have sympathy of the enemy of freedom

[maximan]

hahah untrue. bush said something that wasnt true, and yes, thousands of terrorists died. i cant believe you have sympathy of the enemy of freedom

You're kidding, right? :|

[Anonymous]

all hail adam, he has seen the truth for what it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my grandma hid a jewish child in poland during WWII and she doesnt know if he ived, one day they just had to leave, and she sued to have to sleep in the fields at night to be safe form th raids form the people form chocaslovakia, they only came at night, she had to travel all around and eventually escaped to the us, she now resides in michegan. now take her story, and apply it to the iraqis, htis is the kind of shit that theyd have to go through to be safe.

oh and a note to cosmos and nwshc, you are the most prejudice people i have ever talked to, they are PEOPLE, most of the terrorists are FORCED or BRAINWASHED. you have been BRAINWASHED apparantly. they are living, breathing, ntelligent people just like you and me, i take that bakc, me, you are just a filthy prejudice whore.

[nwshc]

my grandma hid a jewish child in poland during WWII and she doesnt know if he ived, one day they just had to leave, and she sued to have to sleep in the fields at night to be safe form th raids form the people form chocaslovakia, they only came at night, she had to travel all around and eventually escaped to the us, she now resides in michegan. now take her story, and apply it to the iraqis, htis is the kind of shit that theyd have to go through to be safe.
And i Applaud you grandmother for doing that. That was the most noble thing that he did and i thank him.

oh and a note to cosmos and nwshc, you are the most prejudice people i have ever talked to, they are PEOPLE, most of the terrorists are FORCED or BRAINWASHED. you have been BRAINWASHED apparantly. they are living, breathing, ntelligent people just like you and me, i take that bakc, me, you are just a filthy prejudice whore.

Terrorists intelligent??? So it must be smart of them to blow themselves and 20 others up? Do you think that is o.k. popo? Do you think its fine?Do you think they are very intelligent for bombing the World Trade Centers and scheming how they would hijack the plane and get past security?? You are a smelly little cunt. The lowest of the low for saying that. Brainwashed. HA. ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND???? BRAINWASHED?? Terrorists are stupid pricks that think like shitheads. They think by blowing up people, it will make their government better, or their religion that much more great. I fucking despise you popo. You might as well be one of their "BRAINWASHED" followers because all you are spewing is pro-terrorist bullshit!! They are not living, breathing humans. They are dogs that walk this earth to make people live in fear. And as of the beginning of the war, MOST ARE NOW DEAD. If i was over there, i would take their bodies, hang them upside down, cut of their heads, and burn them to a KRISP!!Do you know why POPO???? BECAUSE THEY DESEARVE IT. If i was their, i would shoot them all right between the eyes with out hesitation. And I would do the same to you!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[nwshc]

OMG, popo. I still cant belive you. You are such a fucking douche bag.

[Whisper]

please don't double post :)

[DouggyO.o]

Thats cool Adem

[AC.wAkeBoArDin.06]

all hail adam, he has seen the truth for what it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Haha thnx lol...
Yeah the reason why i did this speech is because i know a lot about hitler because im Jewish and i learned a lot about this.... so i realized... hey ....theres a lot to compare thouse 2

[maximan]

my grandma hid a jewish child in poland during WWII and she doesnt know if he ived, one day they just had to leave, and she sued to have to sleep in the fields at night to be safe form th raids form the people form chocaslovakia, they only came at night, she had to travel all around and eventually escaped to the us, she now resides in michegan. now take her story, and apply it to the iraqis, htis is the kind of shit that theyd have to go through to be safe.
And i Applaud you grandmother for doing that. That was the most noble thing that he did and i thank him.

oh and a note to cosmos and nwshc, you are the most prejudice people i have ever talked to, they are PEOPLE, most of the terrorists are FORCED or BRAINWASHED. you have been BRAINWASHED apparantly. they are living, breathing, ntelligent people just like you and me, i take that bakc, me, you are just a filthy prejudice whore.

Terrorists intelligent??? So it must be smart of them to blow themselves and 20 others up? Do you think that is o.k. popo? Do you think its fine?Do you think they are very intelligent for bombing the World Trade Centers and scheming how they would hijack the plane and get past security?? You are a smelly little cunt. The lowest of the low for saying that. Brainwashed. HA. ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR FUCKING MIND???? BRAINWASHED?? Terrorists are stupid pricks that think like shitheads. They think by blowing up people, it will make their government better, or their religion that much more great. I fucking despise you popo. You might as well be one of their "BRAINWASHED" followers because all you are spewing is pro-terrorist bullshit!! They are not living, breathing humans. They are dogs that walk this earth to make people live in fear. And as of the beginning of the war, MOST ARE NOW DEAD. If i was over there, i would take their bodies, hang them upside down, cut of their heads, and burn them to a KRISP!!Do you know why POPO???? BECAUSE THEY DESEARVE IT. If i was their, i would shoot them all right between the eyes with out hesitation. And I would do the same to you!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

They're obviously more intelligent than us, because first they broke through all barriers of our security, plummeted our economy into recession, made us all scared sick, then pissed all over our big egos in Aghanistan and Iraq. Osama is pretty intelligent for staying in hiding this long.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

They're obviously more intelligent than us, because first they broke through all barriers of our security, plummeted our economy into recession, made us all scared sick, then pissed all over our big egos in Aghanistan and Iraq. Osama is pretty intelligent for staying in hiding this long.


That is the most un fucking believable thing I've ever read in an excruciatingly long time. The whole concept of you propelling the idea that terrorists are quote "more intelligent than us" is asanine. I always knew you were an uncaring political whore, but this is just out of line.

I could never imagine the day when you would SUPPORT terrorism, and cast a positive light on the thousands of innocent victems called worldwide.

In no way did the terrorist attacks on September 11 destroy our economy, our hope, or our values. It made us a stronger nation.

http://img129.echo.cx/img129/9283/beforeafter2dm.jpg

And that picture is not an exaggeration. The American spirit was revived on an unimaginable scale. People all over our country found a new patriotic ferver and waved our flag proudly. I remember I was driving home on the freeway one time and on one of the overpass bridges that goes over the freeway there were like 50 holding up a giant US flag for all the passing cars to see. I had tears in my eyes.

And I almost have tears in my eyes now listening to you support the terrorists that murdered 3,000 innocent Americans. And believe me, there is no such thing as an "ego" when invading foreign nations and hunting for terrorists. There is pride, there is strength and determinations, but there's no "ego" and showing off. We don't need to show off the fact that America is the most powerful nation that ever strode the face of the Earth. That's already apparent. What's also apparent is your total lack of sympathy to hundreds of thousands of people world wide who fall victem to horrible terrorist attacks.

The main goal of terrorism is to create fear, destroy democracy, destroy freedom. In your post you considered terrorists as quote "more intelligent than us". Maximan that quote is astonishingly evil, and it is an attack on the wellfare of all people. It is an attack on freedom, liberty, and democracy. I am baffled that you could say such damaging words without even flinching.

[Anonymous]

very funny nwshc, it does a lot to call my grandma he. while were at it you may as well go fuck yur great grandmothers rotting corpse as you suck bushes cock!

[Ravenous]

Cosmos and maximan this is a good debate keep it going. I agree with maxi though....

nwshc and Popo you both need to calm the fuck down now.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

dont just sit back and watch tim you should take a side :)

[Dante]

Im sorry, but in no way was he supporting the terrorist by saying they were intelligent. I definitly wouldnt call the terrosrist dumb, but think about it.

They Hijacked a plane, which no dumb person could do.
Not only did they manage to attack the WTC, they attacked our defense....which is a BIG slap in our face.

September 11th was a horrible day....I was in NY at the time, so I saw the fear of so many people in person.

but dont confuse what they did, with them not bein intelligent.

it requires intelligence to do that.....they managed to wake the United States from its slumber.

[Anonymous]

think about it, not all the iraqis are terrorists, they are just like you and me but in a bad country. they are intelligent, thinking, feeling, loving human beings.

[maximan]

think about it, not all the iraqis are terrorists, they are just like you and me but in a bad country. they are intelligent, thinking, feeling, loving human beings.

EXACTLY! I wasn't supporting the terrorists, I was just saying they aren't stupid, they're intelligent, even if it isn't in a good way. And I agree exactly with what I quoted popo saying about them being humans (the iraqis)

And cosmos, no i didn't unite us, it just made a lot more people patriotic flag waving retards, which I dont understand, because they were proud of their country...who just got bitchslapped on their own soil. I was certainly REALLY sad that day...it sucked, and I knew a few people in NY (thankfully, they were all okay), but it didn't unite the nation. I didn't feel any better about our "Jesusland" country.

[Anonymous]

oh um nwshc you might wanna read this, same with you cosmos

http://virtualteen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8102

in fact, everyone should read it

[nwshc]

very funny nwshc, it does a lot to call my grandma he. while were at it you may as well go fuck yur great grandmothers rotting corpse as you suck bushes cock!
I hope you get kicked off the site for that.

Anyways, If terrorists were "intelligent" they would use that intelligence for the greater good. Like curing Aids or making new pollutant free cars. But what do they do? They use that "Intelligence" do devise bombs, figure out a way to bypass airport security, and kill people. For that i do not consider them intelligent.

popo wrote:

think about it, not all the Iraqis are terrorists, they are just like you and me but in a bad country. they are intelligent, thinking, feeling, loving human beings.

Did we ever say ALL Iraqis were bad? No. Personally, i think they when they get on their feet, they will prosper. If they ever get on their feet, it will be an example that the terrorists lost and that those people can think for themselves and not have anyone control everything they do. The people who are not intelligent, thinking, feeling, loving humans are the terrorists. They kill many people and they make everyone shit their pants and the terrorists make normal people live their lives in fear. They need to all be transported to mars or something.

And popo, i will not read that because you have nothing good to contribute to anything.

[Anonymous]

I disagree intelligence comes in different forms, good, bad, commonsence, and book smart.
Nwshc, intelligent people also listen to what other people have to say! they do not judge them purely on who they are!! everyone has a meaning in this world and can make a contribution to society!! AND no one is born unloving, it is when people hear comments about themselves that are vicious; hearing things like that obcessivly is what turns them that way!!! Im saying, if you continue to be mean to people, they will turn mean and vile! ACTIONS ARE CONTAGIOUS!!!

[Ravenous]

Anyways, If terrorists were "intelligent" they would use that intelligence for the greater good. Like curing Aids or making new pollutant free cars.

People dont have to use intelligence for good, There are plenty of people who have used their high inteligence for bad.

[nwshc]

I disagree intelligence comes in different forms, good, bad, commonsence, and book smart.
Nwshc, intelligent people also listen to what other people have to say! they do not judge them purely on who they are!! everyone has a meaning in this world and can make a contribution to society!! AND no one is born unloving, it is when people hear comments about themselves that are vicious; hearing things like that obcessivly is what turns them that way!!! Im saying, if you continue to be mean to people, they will turn mean and vile! ACTIONS ARE CONTAGIOUS!!!

So does that mean that a terrorist soul purpose in society is to harm people?
People aren't born that way, but they are taught it!! Just like if you had parents that didn't like blacks. They would teach you from when you were little that blacks are bad and evil. Then you would grow up thinking that blacks were evil and it would take A LOT to change you.
What I'm trying to say is, people are taught this, not from hearing people call them losers.
Most of the terrorists in this world were brought up thinking that they are the best, or the religion is the best, and the only way to keep it the best is to kill everyone else.

And the people that use their intelligence for bad should be locked up forever. They could make such a difference in life if they used it towards good. They would have a much better quality life. By terrorists using their smarts towards evil, i do not consider them intelligent for that soul purpose.

[Anonymous]

are you trying to admit that YOU were taught wrong? Well, U are a republican!! jkjkjkjkjkjkjkjk!

[nwshc]

Lol, of course not. I am never wrong. lol
My mother and my father are both Democrats. I have learned to think on my own.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

bah so much debating goes on when im at school and can't contribute :'(

[nwshc]

I know. Im always on around 6:30 to see what you have to say about everything! lol

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

lol hehe. the problem is its usually all died down by the time i get back. like ive read the last page since i posted and all i see is you pwning popo and everyone else, but now its died down and theres nothing for me to say :(

[nwshc]

You could say
BUSH RULES!!!
and that will get some people going. Lets see wht happens...

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

hahahah i have an even better idea :)

http://img116.echo.cx/img116/8244/c4presidentbush7yy.jpg

[nwshc]

(*crying*) Its so beautiful! It brings a tear to my eye!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

hahahahha :D :D :D

how do you like my new avatar? since my old one is too big and i didnt want to steal yours (even though its awsome) i found a patriotic one :)

[nwshc]

Sums up the USA in just one picture!
I will try and find another bush one for ya

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

heheh ok thanks ;)

[Anonymous]

I didnt read it... i just wanted to vote

A) You can't compare Bush to Hitler. Hitler was a genius who made an entire country believe that destroying all the Jews would truly help the world. Bush, not so smart.

B) I've given up trying to convince people that Bush is not as bad as they believe, they just want to blame the problems of this time on someone, so Bush is the choice. So, I didn't read it.


-Ekia

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ekia if you dont think bush is bad you should stand up for him like me and nwshc!

[Anonymous]

ekia if you dont think bush is bad you should stand up for him like me and nwshc!

Personally, I don't see why you waste your time :roll:. They are too stubborn and their parents have made them that way. Democrats are stubborn. No matter how much proof I've given them on any "problem" be it the president or taxation, they refuse to accept it.

-Ekia

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

i nkow but its fun to argue and yell at those fools :D

[maximan]

Sums up the USA in just one picture!

Yeah...flag waving retards.

And that picture of bush up above...wow. He looks like a monkey with down syndrome.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

How can people who love their country be labled as retards? Where are you from Maximan, what is your favorite country?

[maximan]

How can people who love their country be labled as retards? Where are you from Maximan, what is your favorite country?

It's just americans love their country in an arrogant way. Too many think we're the best (Canada is clearly better...its the US, with less violence). Toby Keith is a prime example of a flag waving retard, and arrogant. Just listen to his song "curtousy of the red white and blue" and you'll see why we piss everyone off.

And I'm from the US, and I have to say my favourite country is Canada. They're almost a carbon copy of the US, except they don't have a huge army because they dont need one...they don't go around the world pissing people off. I have sworn to myself that if we start another stupid war, I'm moving to either Canada or the Netherlands, simply becuase I went there and it was fucking AWESOME! :D

[Anonymous]

It's just americans love their country in an arrogant way. Too many think we're the best (Canada is clearly better...its the US, with less violence). Toby Keith is a prime example of a flag waving retard, and arrogant. Just listen to his song "curtousy of the red white and blue" and you'll see why we piss everyone off.

And I'm from the US, and I have to say my favourite country is Canada. They're almost a carbon copy of the US, except they don't have a huge army because they dont need one...they don't go around the world pissing people off. I have sworn to myself that if we start another stupid war, I'm moving to either Canada or the Netherlands, simply becuase I went there and it was fucking AWESOME! :D

See, now you have pissed me off. Cosmos, this is why I stay out of these. Ignorant people who don't understand how good they have it. Why wait for another war to leave? Get out! If you have to say shit like that about this country, you don't deserve it. Boy, oh boy and now you try to offend Toby Keith. You obvoiusly have no idea what it is that he really does. You have not really listened to that song. It basically says "You come and mess with us and we go and kick your ass so don't fuck with us."

I'm not even going to try and convince you of anything. All I have to say, I can't wait for another "stupid" war to start and you put your money where your mouth is. Don't come crying back when you realize how much better it is.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ekia i wholeheartedly support you. one thing maximan, follow the directions on the back of this leetzore's truck

http://www.jjjasper.com/ce/images/funnies/page1/041903_leave_usa.jpg

[Anonymous]

hahahah i have an even better idea :)

http://img116.echo.cx/img116/8244/c4presidentbush7yy.jpg

that made me puke all over my keyboard

[nwshc]

Good. I hope it gums up the keyboard and you won't be able to talk on
this site anymore.

[nwshc]

How can people who love their country be labled as retards? Where are you from Maximan, what is your favorite country?

It's just americans love their country in an arrogant way. Too many think we're the best (Canada is clearly better...its the US, with less violence). Toby Keith is a prime example of a flag waving retard, and arrogant. Just listen to his song "curtousy of the red white and blue" and you'll see why we piss everyone off.

And I'm from the US, and I have to say my favourite country is Canada. They're almost a carbon copy of the US, except they don't have a huge army because they dont need one...they don't go around the world pissing people off. I have sworn to myself that if we start another stupid war, I'm moving to either Canada or the Netherlands, simply becuase I went there and it was fucking AWESOME! :D

WE ARE THE BEST!!! In as little as 200 years, the U.S.A has become the most powerful, most wealty, and most wanted place to live in the world. In as little as 200 years. 200 YEARS.
Do you think a low crime rate makes Canada better than us? HA.
Even though I do not listen to Country, i do respect Toby Keith and his cause. We are the most power place in the world. Why not show off? It's human nature to throw it in other peoples faces that they suck and that we are better.
Why wait till another war? Just leave now. Politics don't matter right now. If you don't support your country as a whole, you don't need to be hear. And when you go, take popo with you.

[maximan]

It's just americans love their country in an arrogant way. Too many think we're the best (Canada is clearly better...its the US, with less violence). Toby Keith is a prime example of a flag waving retard, and arrogant. Just listen to his song "curtousy of the red white and blue" and you'll see why we piss everyone off.

And I'm from the US, and I have to say my favourite country is Canada. They're almost a carbon copy of the US, except they don't have a huge army because they dont need one...they don't go around the world pissing people off. I have sworn to myself that if we start another stupid war, I'm moving to either Canada or the Netherlands, simply becuase I went there and it was fucking AWESOME! :D

See, now you have pissed me off. Cosmos, this is why I stay out of these. Ignorant people who don't understand how good they have it. Why wait for another war to leave? Get out! If you have to say shit like that about this country, you don't deserve it. Boy, oh boy and now you try to offend Toby Keith. You obvoiusly have no idea what it is that he really does. You have not really listened to that song. It basically says "You come and mess with us and we go and kick your ass so don't fuck with us."

I'm not even going to try and convince you of anything. All I have to say, I can't wait for another "stupid" war to start and you put your money where your mouth is. Don't come crying back when you realize how much better it is.

Tell me one way the US is better than Canada.

And I'm not saying the US completely sucks...it's a GREAT country! But it's starting to get worse and worse.

And yes, I have actually listened to that song...50% of my school is raging rednecks, and sadly I'm friends with a few of them. I'm not just BSing, I know what I'm talkinga bout.

[Ravenous]

urghhh please stop posting those horrible pictures........

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

plz stop posting non contributional material :?

[Anonymous]

Tell me one way the US is better than Canada.

I don't have to. I don't know much about Canada, in fact, I don't know much at all. However, I know enough to know we got it good.


And I'm not saying the US completely sucks...it's a GREAT country! But it's starting to get worse and worse.

Then leave if you don't like it. If Canada is soooo much better, get out and go there and, please, don't come crying back.

And yes, I have actually listened to that song...50% of my school is raging rednecks, and sadly I'm friends with a few of them. I'm not just BSing, I know what I'm talkinga bout.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Listen to that song, and I mean really listen. I listen to country music and you have no idea what Toby Keith is doing.

See, I hate ignorance.
-Ekia

[Anonymous]

the reason has a lower crime rate, is because there are less people! durrrrrr. and the us has nicer weather. there are more people in the us, because more people want to live there.

[Whisper]

the reason has a lower crime rate, is because there are less people! durrrrrr. and the us has nicer weather. there are more people in the us, because more people want to live there.

Watch this then tell me that ~
http://adorocinema.cidadeinternet.com.br/filmes/bowling-for-columbine/bowling-for-columbine-poster04.jpg


LEAVE MY COUNTRY ALONE!!!!!!!!!!

[Anonymous]

Now that you have mentioned something about this, I just want to say something so that I do not offend anyone. I am not saying that your country sucks, I'm just saying that I grew up in the US, and I love the US and I find it rediculous that they keep complaining. I don't want to offend anyone when I say that US is the best. To me, it is the best. Maybe to you, your country is the best.

I just don't want to offend anyone.

-Ekia

[Dante]

Such Notions as if u dont support the US as a whole u should leave......is really sad.....We have the right of freedom of speech....So just because I dont agree with everything the US does....doesnt mean I have to leave....

The US is a powerful nation, but with that power, comes hatred......Countries hate us......I hear people saying that they hate us because they're jealous of us, give me a break.....We are savage and cruel to our own people. The Violence in this country alone is Outstanding.

You guys make it sound like living in a country such as Canada is so bad, but why is it..

Canadians could say what they want.
They have a terrific economy
its not a Violent place to live, hell I was watchin Bowling for Columbine, and Michael moore was lookin at the TV, and on the news it said: Breaking News: New speedbumps installed.....that is breaking news....that is astonishing.

I Know im older than you guys, and that doesnt mean I could tell you what to do.....But I have learned alot in High school, some of you are just 14-15 years old, dont have any clue, what the hell is goin on, because your still learnin about our countrys history. I advise you guys to READ A BOOK, just read a book, and you'll find out truths about the US.

US is a great country because of our freedom....but look at hhow people view us.

For the Bush supporters, why do you support him?

I mean, since hes been in office the United States Dollar sank for a 5th year in a row.

we are in a deficit
people are losing jobs.

I might be wrong, but I dont think you guys know what its like for a parent to lose a job, due to the economy.....or know people whos parents lost their jobs and still are struggling to find one, working temps. I dont think u guys see that first hand. it is due to the economy.

how is it that we go from a 5 billion dollar surplus when clinton was in office....but when Bush gets in office, where in a 2.6 billion dollar deficit...he spent the extra money, he spent our Budget...and then he borrowed money from our countries.....I dont know if u guys know this, but the United States of America borrws money from other countries, to the pint where we owe a combined total that are in the trillions....I just dont get it......

We spend so much time in Iraq trying to liberate there people, when Bin Laden is still on the loose.

Who are we to liberate them....We call saddam a tyrant, but I dont hear people critisizing Bush for killing innocent people under the death penalty, when he was governor in texas.....Did any of you evaluate any of those things.....

The main reason why people re elected him on office was because of abortion and gay rights......check it if u dont believ it...that was what peopel worried about more......from preventing gay marriages and to see if abortion is wrong.....When we are billions in debt...and a war that we're not supposed to be in.

[Whisper]

I never understood why americas so scared of gay marrige....I honestly don't get it.
It's been legal here for a few months and it hasen't hurt anybody, there isn't huge protests against it or anything.
Whats so wrong with it?
I thought the goverment and the church were supposed to be kept seperate

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

they are, but its hard when everyone in your country is a fucking discriminatory asshole. such are all the people who think gay marriage is wrong. id love to live in canada, my mom tells me when she goes on her ski trips that its very clean and peaceful and beautiful. but i still love living in the usa. i couldnt ever imagine leaving my country for another, because im so happy here.

OH AND AS FOR MICHAEL MOORE
http://img228.echo.cx/img228/820/moorereview8vn.jpg

[maximan]

I don't believe the credibility of that picture, because these things are so easy to photoshop, as shown by the following:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/military/boudreaux.asp#photo01

[Anonymous]

telling us to leave the country because we are pointing out its flaws and whatsworng wiht the government is in no way making us any less american, you are just proving your own ignornce by telling us to leave the country and just reiterating everyting youve said previously, and how about the insults? do you think that makes you more credible? does stating that our hard facts are out of our asses make yourfacts any more credible?
or doe sit just make you feel good to type an insult at someone you dont even know? you are so ignorant its unbelievable. somehting id liek to see is a civilized debate going on through two pages without any pointless insults. you probably dont have you capacity to control yourself for that long though do you?

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

I don't believe the credibility of that picture, because these things are so easy to photoshop, as shown by the following:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/military/boudreaux.asp#photo01

i got it from a picture archive website where all the pictures are submitted from people in the armed forces. so fuck off you shit

[Ravenous]

the reason has a lower crime rate, is because there are less people! durrrrrr.

Thats the stupidest thing ive heard in a long time. Crime rates are rates because its averaged over the number of people, it dosen't affect the rate whether youve got 1000 people or 10 million people.

''durrrrrr'' Know what your talking abour if your going to debate.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

this is comming from someone who never shares his views in the debate forum....

[Anonymous]

i was being sarcastic!!!! :lol:

[TheWizard]

Awesome Adam :)

[maximan]

this is comming from someone who never shares his views in the debate forum....

What a graceful way of dodging the fact that you just got shown up by pretending to be an expert on something you know nothing about.

[nwshc]

And you know everything?

[Dante]

as i said....Read a book....ull learn something

[maximan]

And you know everything?

No, but I don't pretend to be an expert about things I have no idea about.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

this is comming from someone who never shares his views in the debate forum....

What a graceful way of dodging the fact that you just got shown up by pretending to be an expert on something you know nothing about.

im not dodging jack shit you judgemental prick, i agreed with Tims post. oh what are you gunna do now

[nwshc]

The internet is my book

[maximan]

this is comming from someone who never shares his views in the debate forum....

What a graceful way of dodging the fact that you just got shown up by pretending to be an expert on something you know nothing about.

im not dodging jack shit you judgemental prick, i agreed with Tims post. oh what are you gunna do now

And now you resort to just calling me names. What a respectable way to slowly go down in flames. Face it, you have no idea about crime rates and you just made up facts. Go read up on something.

And I'm not saying you're stupid, but you need to know what you talk about.

[nwshc]

Maximan wrote on another debate:
"Are you kidding me? Once again, just because I don't support my leader, that makes me anti american? And Siberia? What kind of a terrible decision to move to is that?

And yes, complaining does do a lot. Protests can go a long way to getting things fixed. See: Civil Rights Movement, and Vietnam. So stop being a fucking douche, and let me have my god damn beliefs without accusing me of being some sort of a burden to our country or something."
Hypocrite

[maximan]

How on earth does that make me a hypocrite. I'm not seeing it.

[Ravenous]

I do like to debate, but i only post when i know what im talking about because i dont like being proved wrong.

[Whisper]

I do like to debate, but i only post when i know what im talking about because i dont like being proved wrong.

LMFAO!!!
Awesome philosophy!!!!!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

this is comming from someone who never shares his views in the debate forum....

What a graceful way of dodging the fact that you just got shown up by pretending to be an expert on something you know nothing about.

im not dodging jack shit you judgemental prick, i agreed with Tims post. oh what are you gunna do now

And now you resort to just calling me names. What a respectable way to slowly go down in flames. Face it, you have no idea about crime rates and you just made up facts. Go read up on something.

And I'm not saying you're stupid, but you need to know what you talk about.

when was the last tiem in my life where i ever posted about crime rates and compared them between the us and canada? oh ya thats right, NEVER

[maximan]

this is comming from someone who never shares his views in the debate forum....

What a graceful way of dodging the fact that you just got shown up by pretending to be an expert on something you know nothing about.

im not dodging jack shit you judgemental prick, i agreed with Tims post. oh what are you gunna do now

And now you resort to just calling me names. What a respectable way to slowly go down in flames. Face it, you have no idea about crime rates and you just made up facts. Go read up on something.

And I'm not saying you're stupid, but you need to know what you talk about.

when was the last tiem in my life where i ever posted about crime rates and compared them between the us and canada? oh ya thats right, NEVER

Did I ever say therre was a last time? No. I'm saying that THIS time you pretended to know about something you had no idea about. That's not an effective debating strategy.

[maximan]

Maximan wrote on another debate:
"Are you kidding me? Once again, just because I don't support my leader, that makes me anti american? And Siberia? What kind of a terrible decision to move to is that?

And yes, complaining does do a lot. Protests can go a long way to getting things fixed. See: Civil Rights Movement, and Vietnam. So stop being a fucking douche, and let me have my god damn beliefs without accusing me of being some sort of a burden to our country or something."
Hypocrite

I'm still waiting for you to let me know how that makes me a hypocrite.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

this is comming from someone who never shares his views in the debate forum....

What a graceful way of dodging the fact that you just got shown up by pretending to be an expert on something you know nothing about.

im not dodging jack shit you judgemental prick, i agreed with Tims post. oh what are you gunna do now

And now you resort to just calling me names. What a respectable way to slowly go down in flames. Face it, you have no idea about crime rates and you just made up facts. Go read up on something.

And I'm not saying you're stupid, but you need to know what you talk about.

when was the last tiem in my life where i ever posted about crime rates and compared them between the us and canada? oh ya thats right, NEVER

Did I ever say therre was a last time? No. I'm saying that THIS time you pretended to know about something you had no idea about. That's not an effective debating strategy.

wtf are you talking about, i neither agreed with nor denied aconfusedones accusation about the crime rate in canada--in fact, i never said ANYTHING AT ALL. therefore how could i have "pretended to know about something i had no idea about" ?

[maximan]

Holy Shit!! I thought it was you that said this:

the reason has a lower crime rate, is because there are less people! durrrrrr.

I just realized it was a confused one. My sincere apologies for attacking you man...so take all the things I said to you and redirect them towards a confused one.

Sorry! :lol: :oops: :lol: :oops:

[Ravenous]

hehe its funny when people say stupid things in here, they are just setting up the pins for me to take my big bowling ball and knock em' all down :D

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

Holy Shit!! I thought it was you that said this:

the reason has a lower crime rate, is because there are less people! durrrrrr.

I just realized it was a confused one. My sincere apologies for attacking you man...so take all the things I said to you and redirect them towards a confused one.

Sorry! :lol: :oops: :lol: :oops:

its fine dude, shit happens. lol, this whole time i was like what is he talking about?

anyways thanks for the apology :D

[maximan]

Maximan wrote on another debate:
"Are you kidding me? Once again, just because I don't support my leader, that makes me anti american? And Siberia? What kind of a terrible decision to move to is that?

And yes, complaining does do a lot. Protests can go a long way to getting things fixed. See: Civil Rights Movement, and Vietnam. So stop being a fucking douche, and let me have my god damn beliefs without accusing me of being some sort of a burden to our country or something."
Hypocrite

I'm still waiting for you to let me know how that makes me a hypocrite.

nwhsc has seemed to have disappeared since he called me a hypocrite. I'm still waiting for a reason here.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

i havent seen him online. give him a break, maybe hes busy

[nwshc]

I have been at my fathers.
Anyways, now that i look back at the debate, hypocrite is not the right word and it does not fit in with the conversation. My apologies.

[maximan]

Think before you speak, my friend :roll:

[nwshc]

Ok...

Hitler sucks ass :D