war in iraq

[serial-thrilla]

do you agree with the U.S being in Iraq?

[Dante]

no...We should not be in Iraq. Iraq didnt attack us, iraq doesnt have WMD.

[AC.wAkeBoArDin.06]

go to my speech thing and ull see my view on the war

[Dante]

yea i just commented in it.

[AC.wAkeBoArDin.06]

thnx :D

[redcar]

the us and the britsish should not have gone near iraq
1) the intelligence was flawed adn they knew it
2) there was no un mandate, therefore it was illegal
3) iraq posed no threat
4) the us and uk had no right to interfer even if they thought that saddam needed to be kicked out of office because he was a tyranneous dictator, if that was the case they need to kick out the likes og Mugabe and Kim il Yung

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

try to guess what i think. really, try to guess :)

[redcar]

well tony blair is a good man but bush is a complete an utter wan**r

[nwshc]

I think it was needed. But, i have debated this so many times, im getting tired so blah.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya seriously lol

[nwshc]

But, i will go back to this:
Yes, it was needed and necessary.
Anyone who disagrees should be banished from this planet :D

[serial-thrilla]

i think it was nessisary to get rid of sadam. That is all. i dont know why they're still there.

[Anonymous]

try to guess what i think. really, try to guess :)

Took the words out of my mouth.

This whole debate can be solved with one sentence. Would you allow a rabid dog that bites hard even have a chance of comming near you?

I sure as hell wouldn't.

-Ekia

[Anonymous]

http://virtualteen.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=99134#99134

theres aslightly outdated but very accurate thing on the whole oil business, which is why were thee, they have like the biggest oil reserve in the world, bush is stupid enough to think that the answer to the problem of the oil running out is to secure it all, when we should be switching to hydrgen, if we aint made the switch by the time we have a major crisis, im moving to iceland.

[nwshc]

popo, popo, popo. We are switching to hydrogen you dumb shit. Yes it will take a while to catch on, but we are. There is only enough oil left in the world to support the world for 30 more years. The switch is inevitable and is happening right now. But like i said, it will take time because people will need to get comfortable to it and also the technology needs to improve a lot more and be more efficient etc. So popo, ITS NOT FUCKING OIL. Dont you relize you are the only one here arguing that we went to war for oil?? If we wanted it so bad, then we would have started drilling in Alaska. Dam, you hardheaded idiot.

[Anonymous]

nope, not even 30, thta may be how long there will be oil, but will it be feasable? oh and we are dirlling in alaska dumbass. the hydrogentechnology we have currently is efficient enough to be used, it a hell fo a lot more efficient than gas, 0 emissions. wheres our lil switch hmmmmm? where do you see the government pouring billions of dollars into helping our country avoid crisis? into stealing all the fucking oil we can!

[nwshc]

No fuck hydrogen technology is efficient enough. The problem is getting use to hydrogen. It needs to start being mass produced in cars. Which right now is not happening. And there also has to be hydrogen filling stations or you could never fill up. Its not exactly 0 emissions dumb ass. If you put use hydrogen in a internal combustion engine, it will take 30 hydrogen cars to equal the emissions of 1 petroleum car. That's not zero emissions. It is just about 0 when you are talking about a fuel cell, but those are very expensive and that is where the technology needs to be refined. And if you knew anything popo, the government is pouring billions of dollars in hydrogen technolygy too. They realize they need to switch and they are going to do it within the next decade. Read up on you info fool.

[Anonymous]

lmfao, we are spending our money on oil, and is it necessarry to insult me in every post? that right there tells me thta it would be stupid for me to even argue with you if you cnat come upwith anything except and insult and wheres your research, i havent seen you come up with anything other than "stuff outta your ass".

[nwshc]

O ya, "I" insult you on every post. :roll: I can not be reasoned with because i have a hard head :roll: You must be right because you know everything :roll:

I bet you don't even know what "stuff out of your ass" means Mike.

We are spending our money for oil?? Bush has just proposed a bill to jump start hydrogen technologies in the U.S. Do you know how much it was for Mike? 1.3 Billion Dollars. And this is to "Jump start" it. Believe me, this is just the beginning and there will be A LOT of funding for this.

[DouggyO.o]

i dont think we sould be there, it was a bad judjment, thats why the only bush i trust is my owm, lol

[nwshc]

i dont think we sould be there, it was a bad judjment, thats why the only bush i trust is my owm, lol
I have herd of that before!! O Ya!! some lady wrote it on a sign at a protest and i saw it on the internet! I thought that was pretty funny.

http://www.ilpostino.no/images/monkey/Trust%20Bush.JPG
I found it!!!

I really don't think that tho.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

lol thats funny. and stupid at the same time :)

[Anonymous]

its funny and true

[nwshc]

It's only true for you radical D's and tree huggers.

[maximan]

It's only true for you radical D's and tree huggers.

So anyone who doesn't trust Bush anymore is a radical democrat or a tree hugger?

[Ravenous]

Yeah I dont trust bush, seriously hes a fucking idiot. I wouldnt want him running my country and its scary that he is with america.

[redcar]

ah god its unnatural the way we europeans hate him so uch

[serial-thrilla]

not only do the europeans hate him. alot of north americans do aswell. If all americans hate him why did they vote for him?

[nwshc]

Because he was a hell of a lot better than Kerry. Would you really want Kerry to run the nation? Even if i wasd a D i wouldnt vote for him. And who else would you vote for. Nader?

[nwshc]

It's only true for you radical D's and tree huggers.

So anyone who doesn't trust Bush anymore is a radical democrat or a tree hugger?
Yes.
You all say he lies and and of this stupid shit. He didn't
"o, he said Iraq had WMD's, but they didn't so he lies to the country"
No he didn't. Every major federal group said and had proof that Saddam had WMD's. Do you think Bush paid of the FBI, CIA, Secret Service etc? No. He went to war because they presented papers to Bush saying that Iraq did have them and was backed up by credible evidence. Will all of the overwhelming evidence and suggestions Bush declared war. So don't blame everything on Bush as you are all doing. Blame it on every federal agency.
The tree huggers will all hate him automatically because the Republicans have a rep for not helping them. So they resent that and blame it on Bush.
The Radical D's can never think rationally and weigh the pros and cons. With them if its someone from another party, BOOM. They jump all over em with excuses and propaganda. So no matter what the republican thinks, hes already on the naughty list.

[serial-thrilla]

im not a radical democrate or a tree huger and i dont like bush so there.

[maximan]

It's only true for you radical D's and tree huggers.

So anyone who doesn't trust Bush anymore is a radical democrat or a tree hugger?
Yes.

So all of Europe is radical Ds and tree huggers?

And I never said "HE LIES ALL THE TIME!!!", he just has a way of sugar-coating the truth. I love how he declared victory in the war in iraq when we were nowhere near winning. We're still getting attacked every day, and I dont call that the end of the war.

And I also dont like him because he forces his beliefs on others. If he doesnt support gay marraige, he doesnt have to go get one. If he doesnt support abortion, he doesnt have to go get one.

[nwshc]

How can i refine this??
If they don't TRUST Bush then yes, they are. Europe trusting him and hating him are two different things. Don't get those crossed. You have to trust your leader. He is looking out for his country's citizens safety. Just like with the Iraq war. He told the truth. He was presented with the evidence, announced what he read to the world, and then went to war. He certainly isn't trying to plummet us into an economic depression.
We did win the war in Iraq. We beat down the Iraqi forces, caught Saddam and we won. But as you say, we haven't won "THE WAR ON TERRORISM" Which isn't really a real war but you get the drift.
Of course he is going to force his beliefs on others. That is what i am doing to you, and you are doing to me. Forcing each others beliefs on the other one.

[Anonymous]

lmfao, i wouldnt trust you if you were my leader, id move to another country asap. im not a "radical D"
im just a person who sees the truth. bush has a below average iq, he used to be a drug addict. anything intelligable that comes out of his mouth was written by someone else. if he doesnt have somehting prepared already to answer your question, hell start tyring to bs about it, there are many articles and videos showing what happens when he has to answer an unexpected question. and he is plummetting us into an economic depression, the thign were there for is to secure all the oil we possibly can, he htinks th answer is to get more oil, he doesnt give a shit about anyone, he just wnats to have a safe supply of oil in the country so he can live therst of his pathetic life without worrying, leaving a crisis behind in the country. the untited states will be very weak when oil becomes unfeasable, we will be a very weak country, youre gonna sit here and suck bushes cock till the end, even after hes gone there will be too big of a mess to clean up, but youll sit here thiknking the president will solve everything, ill just laugh at you when im talking to you form iceand and youre complaining baout all the poroblems over here.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

instead of trying to make you open your eyes popo, im just going to completely ignore your post and pretend it isnt there. maybe if you were to say something logical in the future ill handle it differently

[maximan]

instead of trying to make you open your eyes popo, im just going to completely ignore your post and pretend it isnt there. maybe if you were to say something logical in the future ill handle it differently

His arguements are a lot more logical than yours.

[nwshc]

instead of trying to make you open your eyes popo, im just going to completely ignore your post and pretend it isnt there. maybe if you were to say something logical in the future ill handle it differently

His arguements are a lot more logical than yours.
Give me a break! More logical??
im not a "radical D"

Of course your not Mike. :roll:
he used to be a drug addict
No he was not. He did smoke pot, but he was not an adict that tried to get his fix everyday. And considering that over 1/2 the US has tried drugs, you shouldn't be surprised.
economic depression
No, he is not. Every country has their ups and downs. Right now, we are in the down. Look at Japan. They were the economic capital of the world between 1950-1992. Then they went into a slump. Not a depression, a slump. That is what we are in. a LITTLE slump.
he just wnats to have a safe supply of oil in the country the untited states will be very weak when oil becomes unfeasable Like i have said before, Bush has seen the need to switch the country to Hydrogen and he is currently doing that. He has just given 1.3 billion dollars to jump start technologies in that field. There is no need to worry.
youre gonna sit here and suck bushes cock till the end, even after hes gone there will be too big of a mess to clean up, but youll sit here thiknking the president will solve everything, ill just laugh at you when im talking to you form iceand and youre complaining baout all the poroblems over here. I wonder what you would be saying if Kerry was elected. :roll:
Who is keeping you in America? Go live in Iceland. Be my guest.

[maximan]

Just because we dont like a leader doesnt mean we dont deserve to be here. we have every right to complain, so deal with us living here.

[nwshc]

Did you read what he said?

"ill just laugh at you when I'm talking to you form iceland"

He is expressing that he wants to leave here because he doesn't like how we do things here. So, he doesn't have to stay here. He has every right to leave, so im just saying he can go ahead and leave. No one is forcing him to stay. DUH

[maximan]

Did you read what he said?

"ill just laugh at you when I'm talking to you form iceland"

He is expressing that he wants to leave here because he doesn't like how we do things here. So, he doesn't have to stay here. He has every right to leave, so im just saying he can go ahead and leave. No one is forcing him to stay. DUH

Except that he's probably under 18, and therefore is still under his parents' custody.

[nwshc]

O Boo fucking woo. He could convince them...

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

Just because we dont like a leader doesnt mean we dont deserve to be here. we have every right to complain, so deal with us living here.

you have every right to complain, but nothing is going to change the fact that bush is elected to office so you can complain all you want but it wont solve jack fuckin shit. Go move to Siberia you antiamerican fuck

[maximan]

Just because we dont like a leader doesnt mean we dont deserve to be here. we have every right to complain, so deal with us living here.

you have every right to complain, but nothing is going to change the fact that bush is elected to office so you can complain all you want but it wont solve jack fuckin shit. Go move to Siberia you antiamerican fuck

Are you kidding me? Once again, just because I don't support my leader, that makes me anti american? And Siberia? What kind of a terrible decision to move to is that?

And yes, complaining does do a lot. Protests can go a long way to getting things fixed. See: Civil Rights Movement, and Vietnam. So stop being a fucking douche, and let me have my god damn beliefs without accusing me of being some sort of a burden to our country or something.

[nwshc]

Are you trying to get him impeached or something?

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

Just because we dont like a leader doesnt mean we dont deserve to be here. we have every right to complain, so deal with us living here.

you have every right to complain, but nothing is going to change the fact that bush is elected to office so you can complain all you want but it wont solve jack fuckin shit. Go move to Siberia you antiamerican fuck

Are you kidding me? Once again, just because I don't support my leader, that makes me anti american? And Siberia? What kind of a terrible decision to move to is that?

And yes, complaining does do a lot. Protests can go a long way to getting things fixed. See: Civil Rights Movement, and Vietnam. So stop being a fucking douche, and let me have my god damn beliefs without accusing me of being some sort of a burden to our country or something.

Not supporting our leader does make you anti american you twat. and i can call you all the names i want because calling people names is empowering and shows emotions like anger. oh and btw the reason i suggested you move to siberia is because its the shittiest place i could think of at the moment hehehe. and also protesting never solves anything ever. the civil rights movement was a fucking movenment that consisted of millions of oppressed peoples, hardly something to compare to radicals walking through central park.

http://img227.echo.cx/img227/4739/picture1077cs.jpg
George Bush Loves You. Have a nice day!

[maximan]

Is that you? Because if so, you have too much time on your hands. And you need to get out more.

[nwshc]

Anyone who is on this site has too much time on their hands.

[Whisper]

Ya look good matt

Can't you guys just agree to disagree?

[serial-thrilla]

yeah seriously, when i started this thread i knew there was going to be dissagreements but this is enough. some people like bush some people dont. so what?

[nwshc]

Its just funny

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya this is a life or death fight for whats right.



THANKS for the compliment Fading Dream, im glad you posted something nice :)

[maximan]

Yeah you look pretty good, except your hair looks solid...almost as if you got a perm.

[serial-thrilla]

i know lots of people who have that kind of hair. i think it looks good

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

Yeah you look pretty good, except your hair looks solid...almost as if you got a perm.

lol my friends claim i could grow an affro and that i should, but i disagree :)

[maximan]

Yeah you look pretty good, except your hair looks solid...almost as if you got a perm.

lol my friends claim i could grow an affro and that i should, but i disagree :)

DO NOT GROW AN AFRO! White guys with afros are....somehow evil.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

don't worry i dont want one lol. its nice to see that even with drastically different political views we can still converse nicely ;)

[reptile08]

ok for one not suporting ur leader doesent mean your anti american i say this becaus u dont have to like or suport some one everyone has there own views ........ even though i am one of the people who voted yes...... i did vote yes becaus i have talked to a man who has been in iraq for i belive 18 years and has been writing books on it and i have talked to soldiers who went to iraq and all have said good things about being in iraq. the one reason u probaly think its not is becaus the media does not tell the whole storry only the things like people dieing and such but they havent told u about how we have built schooles for kides and have gotten american teachers to go up there and give these kides the education they deserve. also the U.S has built some hospitales up there. and some of the soldiers i aked how they felt when they were up there they said ' i fell real good , i think were doing a good thing for these people " they dont just say that becaus they have to they say that becaus they fell that way and they fell good when the people who live in iraq come up to them and say thank you............................................................................. ....... and i hope u understand im not trying to get u to like bush i know u have ur own opinion on this subject witch under all sercomsanses you r intilted to give.. im just giveing you my opinion