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Kuervo
November 9th, 2011, 10:28 PM
What are your words on Abstinence (celibacy)

kenoloor
November 9th, 2011, 10:53 PM
That it's pointless bullshit produced by religion (as is a lot of other stuff produced by religion). I think that if someone ends up being abstinence without that being their goal, then whatever. But if someone has abstinence as their mindset, I think that is something quite foolish, especially if they try to force that opinion on others.

Sugaree
November 9th, 2011, 11:14 PM
That it's pointless bullshit produced by religion (as is a lot of other stuff produced by religion). I think that if someone ends up being abstinence without that being their goal, then whatever. But if someone has abstinence as their mindset, I think that is something quite foolish, especially if they try to force that opinion on others.

Abstinence is a tool used by religion, yes, but it's not totally religious. There's non-religious people in the world who want to stay celibate for their future wife/husband.

kenoloor
November 9th, 2011, 11:18 PM
Abstinence is a tool used by religion, yes, but it's not totally religious. There's non-religious people in the world who want to stay celibate for their future wife/husband.

True; however I'm saying that abstinence for the sake of religious or otherwise spiritual "purity" is a ludicrous idea.

Kuervo
November 10th, 2011, 12:00 AM
side note (ignore the fact about religion, just ignore that to prevent more unnecessary rambling)

kenoloor
November 10th, 2011, 12:07 AM
side note (ignore the fact about religion, just ignore that to prevent more unnecessary rambling)

Seeing as how religion is the main reason that abstinence is even a thing, it seems stupid not to include religion in the discussion.

Peace God
November 10th, 2011, 12:15 AM
That it's pointless bullshit produced by religion (as is a lot of other stuff produced by religion). I think that if someone ends up being abstinence without that being their goal, then whatever. But if someone has abstinence as their mindset, I think that is something quite foolish, especially if they try to force that opinion on others.
Why is it foolish?

kenoloor
November 10th, 2011, 12:21 AM
Why is it foolish?

Well, aside from the fact that religion itself is pretty foolish, the idea that not having sex until marriage makes you "pure" or better than someone else is foolish. Why is there such a stigma on sex out of wedlock anyway? Religion.

Peace God
November 10th, 2011, 12:52 AM
the idea that not having sex until marriage makes you "pure" or better than someone else is foolish. Why is there such a stigma on sex out of wedlock anyway? Religion.
As a vegetarian that sometimes gets accused of using it to gain moral high ground I have to disagree with you completely. Not only are you making assumptions but you're saying that people should want to have sex or else they're foolish. Abstinence isn't always a moral thing and was not created by religion. Same with abstaining from recreational drugs.

kenoloor
November 10th, 2011, 01:21 AM
As a vegetarian that sometimes gets accused of using it to gain moral high ground I have to disagree with you completely. Not only are you making assumptions but you're saying that people should want to have sex or else they're foolish. Abstinence isn't always a moral thing and was not created by religion. Same with abstaining from recreational drugs.

I was unclear, sorry. I don't think that abstinence, as a lifestyle choice, is foolish, same as abstaining from drugs. However, I find the idea that abstinence makes one spiritually "pure" foolish, however not the actual act of abstinence. Sorry for any confusion.

Peace God
November 10th, 2011, 01:55 AM
I was unclear, sorry. I don't think that abstinence, as a lifestyle choice, is foolish, same as abstaining from drugs. However, I find the idea that abstinence makes one spiritually "pure" foolish, however not the actual act of abstinence. Sorry for any confusion.
I agree that no one deserves a cookie for not having sex, or more specifically not wanting to have sex.

...well unless you're as sexy as I am. Hahaha, kidding.

kenoloor
November 10th, 2011, 02:00 AM
I agree that no one deserves a cookie for not having sex, or more specifically not wanting to have sex.

...well unless you're as sexy as I am. Hahaha, kidding.


Unless, of course, this individual is asexual; but I'm assuming we're talking about those who feel sexual desire, etc. but yes. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Genghis Khan
November 10th, 2011, 07:30 AM
I could never convince myself to get an abstinence ring, I love my horses.

Cybercode
November 10th, 2011, 07:33 AM
Well,

1. I can't get a girlfriend to save my freakin life.
2. I'm a proud virgin (someone actually said that being a Virgin is something not to be proud of at 16)
3. I grew up in a Christian home and was taught Christian values (what now, come at me bro. I dare you)
4. The only sexual thing I do is masturbate, but I try to not do that as well. Say like if my parents are not home, and I get the urge, then yeah I will mastubate, then I will do my "religious mumbo jumbo" afterwards (asking God for forgiveness. doing that makes me feel less guilty and ashamed.)

Jess
November 10th, 2011, 07:44 AM
I voted yes. Personal reasons. don't ask.

Genghis Khan
November 10th, 2011, 07:53 AM
I voted yes. Personal reasons. don't ask.

Why? :yeah:

Jess
November 10th, 2011, 07:59 AM
Well,

1. I can't get a girlfriend to save my freakin life.
2. I'm a proud virgin (someone actually said that being a Virgin is something not to be proud of at 16)

I can't get a boyfriend either. and I'm also #2. like you...not ashamed. might be one for the rest of my life, but I don't care. and it's not like that fact will hurt the rest of you.

Why? :yeah:

-_-

Cybercode
November 10th, 2011, 08:00 AM
oh yeah I forgot, I'm not a Christian anymore. time to log off and get laid.

Jean Poutine
November 10th, 2011, 10:29 AM
I always wanted to save my v-card for somebody worthwhile, where strong, mutual feelings would be involved. Now that I have found that person, there's really no reason for me to abstain anymore.

Clawhammer
November 10th, 2011, 10:40 AM
Sex is a big deal. It's not just "Oh, this feels good, so I'm going to do it." If I don't feel that I'm ready to spend the rest of my life with a girl in a mature, realistic mindset, aka marriage, then I'm not ready for sex. Chastity isn't some dumb religious idea. I'm not religious, I lost my religion a ways back. But I recognize it as seeing sex as more than the material temporary gain. I'm looking for something a lot more meaningful than physical pleasure which I would regret later. Misuse of sex makes it worthless. That's why I'm saving it for later.

Peace God
November 10th, 2011, 11:18 AM
2. I'm a proud virgin (someone actually said that being a Virgin is something not to be proud of at 16)
You should find pride things that actually take work and skill to accomplish.

kenoloor
November 10th, 2011, 11:19 AM
Sex is a big deal. It's not just "Oh, this feels good, so I'm going to do it." If I don't feel that I'm ready to spend the rest of my life with a girl in a mature, realistic mindset, aka marriage, then I'm not ready for sex. Chastity isn't some dumb religious idea. I'm not religious, I lost my religion a ways back. But I recognize it as seeing sex as more than the material temporary gain. I'm looking for something a lot more meaningful than physical pleasure which I would regret later. Misuse of sex makes it worthless. That's why I'm saving it for later.

I disagree. I don't see why sex is seen as such a big fucking deal. It's just another thing we do as a species that we gain pleasure from. I don't think it's all that different from playing a sport that you enjoy, or listening to music you like. Maybe it's just me, but these are all things that we, as a species, do to enjoy ourselves.

You should find pride things that actually take work and skill to accomplish.

Agreed.

Efflorescence
November 10th, 2011, 01:06 PM
Well, my religion tells me that having sex before marriage is not ideal and it does make sense to do it with that special person. But I cannot vote yes. What's done is done now man:(

Clawhammer
November 10th, 2011, 03:30 PM
I disagree. I don't see why sex is seen as such a big fucking deal. It's just another thing we do as a species that we gain pleasure from. I don't think it's all that different from playing a sport that you enjoy, or listening to music you like. Maybe it's just me, but these are all things that we, as a species, do to enjoy ourselves.





Well, I'm not one to demand that everybody agrees with me, so whatever works for you. I just find that that's the funny thing about sex, it isn't just sex. I've only ever heard that there's always more going on emotionally and such. Whatever that may be, seems like sex is an outside tool to help with inner matters. I don't like the idea of using that carelessly. Also seems like sex is an "Achilles heel" for most men. I like to keep a wary eye on my weaknesses, I reckon.

UnknownError
November 10th, 2011, 03:41 PM
I am a virgin but naut because Im waiting for marriage, but because Im only 13. Abstinence and all that pewp is boring.

embers
November 10th, 2011, 06:35 PM
oh yeah I forgot, I'm not a Christian anymore. time to log off and get laid.

Oh man. I can feel the heat.

ShatteredGlass
November 10th, 2011, 06:36 PM
Animals have multiple sex partners unscrupulously. We oughta be better than that. Sex is the deepest physical connection you can have with someone, and spiritual as well, no matter how you look at it you can't just have sex without it having an impact.

embers
November 10th, 2011, 06:38 PM
Animals have multiple sex partners unscrupulously. We oughta be better than that. Sex is the deepest physical connection you can have with someone, and spiritual as well, no matter how you look at it you can't just have sex without it having an impact.

Yeah you can.

Genghis Khan
November 10th, 2011, 06:48 PM
Animals have multiple sex partners unscrupulously. We oughta be better than that. Sex is the deepest physical connection you can have with someone, and spiritual as well, no matter how you look at it you can't just have sex without it having an impact.

I must be doing it wrong then.

kenoloor
November 10th, 2011, 08:26 PM
Animals have multiple sex partners unscrupulously. We oughta be better than that. Sex is the deepest physical connection you can have with someone, and spiritual as well, no matter how you look at it

Humans ARE animals. It's amazing how much we think of ourselves as "above" them. No, sex is not spiritual, unless you make it such. It's the same with anything, really. Anything can mean nothing unless you MAKE it mean something.

you can't just have sex without it having an impact.
Ever heard of a fuck buddy?

Cybercode
November 10th, 2011, 11:09 PM
You should find pride things that actually take work and skill to accomplish.

Hold up, are you saying that being a virgin is not something to be proud of and I should take pride in something else? I'm confused.

Amnesiac
November 10th, 2011, 11:49 PM
Hold up, are you saying that being a virgin is not something to be proud of and I should take pride in something else? I'm confused.

Yes. Being a virgin is a personal preference, not something to brag about. People who choose to have sex aren't worse than people who choose to abstain. Keeping one's virginity is something that takes, literally, no effort at all.

Genghis Khan
November 11th, 2011, 04:21 AM
Hold up, are you saying that being a virgin is not something to be proud of and I should take pride in something else? I'm confused.

Being a virgin takes absolutely no effort from your part at all, I don't advocate taking pride in having sex either but why someone would want to take pride in their own virginity is just beyond me. What AJ meant was it makes more sense to take pride in achievements and accomplishments, rather than innate features like virginity, race, dick size etc.

Cybercode
November 11th, 2011, 07:11 AM
Yes. Being a virgin is a personal preference, not something to brag about. People who choose to have sex aren't worse than people who choose to abstain. Keeping one's virginity is something that takes, literally, no effort at all.

Being a virgin takes absolutely no effort from your part at all, I don't advocate taking pride in having sex either but why someone would want to take pride in their own virginity is just beyond me. What AJ meant was it makes more sense to take pride in achievements and accomplishments, rather than innate features like virginity, race, dick size etc.

Are you two virgins? Do you speak from experience? I don't care what you guys say, I am part of a minority group that has not given up their virginity at the teenage years. People have their reasons for remaining a virgin. Wether it's religious, school comes first, parents, or they have no interest in romance until they are ready. For me it's all those reasons. And yes it does take effort to remain a virgin. But for me, since I've been single my whole life, not only do I not want to but I'm not able to. I'm sure if you ask those who have lost theirs they regret it ( depends on who you are asking). Being avirgin at age 16 in an anti-Christian sex saturated society is a feat that I am proud of, and no one has the right to tell me different.

Genghis Khan
November 11th, 2011, 07:30 AM
Are you two virgins? Do you speak from experience? I don't care what you guys say, I am part of a minority group that has not given up their virginity at the teenage years. People have their reasons for remaining a virgin. Wether it's religious, school comes first, parents, or they have no interest in romance until they are ready. For me it's all those reasons. And yes it does take effort to remain a virgin. But for me, since I've been single my whole life, not only do I not want to but I'm not able to. I'm sure if you ask those who have lost theirs they regret it ( depends on who you are asking). Being avirgin at age 16 in an anti-Christian sex saturated society is a feat that I am proud of, and no one has the right to tell me different.

Woo-hoo, you've abstained from conforming to the norm, you must be so special.

Amaryllis
November 11th, 2011, 08:10 AM
Are you two virgins?
I'm a virgin.

No I'm not. I fucked my father :') [-]Don't take me seriously.[/-]

Hold up, are you saying that being a virgin is not something to be proud of and I should take pride in something else? I'm confused.
He means - being a virgin isn't a skill or a talent. It isn't like you spent hours of your day mastering the art of virginity. You didn't get 100% on your abstinence test.

On another note, I don't think staying a virgin is a -really- easy feat. What with teenage hormones and whatnot. Even if you weren't a teenager, well, it's pretty hard to resist.

Still, it's not like virginity's such a big deal.

Animals have multiple sex partners unscrupulously. We oughta be better than that.
We are animals. Anyway, sex =/= love

I am part of a minority group that has not given up their virginity at the teenage years.
Not really. Nearly all my friends are virgins.

Wether it's religious,
What religious reasons do you have? Why? Why does your religion teach it? Why do you believe it? Who set these guidelines? What reasons lie behind it? When were these guidelines set? Why do they still apply to the modern era?

school comes first,
And porn comes second.

parents,
You do everything your parents ask you to?

or they have no interest in romance until they are ready.
Sex =/= romance

. But for me, since I've been single my whole life, not only do I not want to but I'm not able to.
You don't need a girlfriend to have sex. Why must we label everyone? Why do we need to put a label on everyone we like? It's just a status. What does it matter?

no one has the right to tell me different.
It's ROTW. If you choose to post - expect to find people with opinions of their own. It's a debate.

deadpie
November 11th, 2011, 03:06 PM
Sex is the deepest physical connection you can have with someone, and spiritual as well, no matter how you look at it you can't just have sex without it having an impact.

Uh, I'm going to disagree. Shoving your three inch purple skinny penis into a slimy vagina or smelly ass hole, then shooting semen inside of it does not seem deep and spiritual to me.

I don't know how sex is so sacred, probably because I was forced to do very many different 'things' as a kid for years. Maybe that just fucks up my judgement of sex. Any relationship I've been in, I've never had that "OH WOW GLORIOUS BEAUTIFUL SEX THIS IS GREAT". It almost feels like some stupid fucking chore, like, you're this far into the relationship, now it's time to put your cock in her cunt because you're both bored and need to find something more exciting to do. Then sex with the same person gets boring for you and/or her and shit just goes down the drain.

Could care less about fucking right now. Sure, it's fun, but I really don't think of it as the most spectacular thing to do.

Not everyone believes in marriage. Not everyone is a dirty slut wanting to fuck as soon and fast as possible. Sex can be equally beautiful and sick at the same time. You seen those BDSM videos with horses? Me personally, I cannot spiritually connect to that stuff.

If you're a virgin, who cares. If you're not, who cares. You fucked. WOW! COOL. You're a virgin. WOOOOOW!! AMAZING! I'm going to have to agree with what AJ said by the way.

Where has our culture gone when people have to brag about things they don't do to show they're better than the people who do those things? Such as straight edge people. They're fucking idiots. The abstinence thing too. I'm not saying it's a bad thing you're a virgin, I'm just saying it's fucking stupid to be bragging about something you're not doing and putting yourself ahead of someone. There's no need to brag about how many people you're not fucking, while there's also no need to brag about all 'dem hoes you be fuckin' on da' block'.

StoppingTime
November 11th, 2011, 03:27 PM
What are your words on Abstinence (celibacy)

I won't have sex until I'm married, but even if wasn't religious, I think I may wait as well.

That it's pointless bullshit produced by religion (as is a lot of other stuff produced by religion). I think that if someone ends up being abstinence without that being their goal, then whatever. But if someone has abstinence as their mindset, I think that is something quite foolish, especially if they try to force that opinion on others.

Yes, forcing opinion on others is foolish, but that doesn't mean that the person is. They may have reasons that don't have to do with religion (emotional, just how they are etc...). How can you say thats wrong?
Also, sure, its produced by religion, but does that make it bad?

Well, aside from the fact that religion itself is pretty foolish, the idea that not having sex until marriage makes you "pure" or better than someone else is foolish. Why is there such a stigma on sex out of wedlock anyway? Religion.

Again, its not just religion. Do you think everyone is going to want to do this? No matter what their reasoning is, why is that for you to decide. What if they were sexually abused or raped at a young age. Don't you think that might change their mindset on it, a little?

Well,

1. I can't get a girlfriend to save my freakin life.
2. I'm a proud virgin (someone actually said that being a Virgin is something not to be proud of at 16)
3. I grew up in a Christian home and was taught Christian values (what now, come at me bro. I dare you)
4. The only sexual thing I do is masturbate, but I try to not do that as well. Say like if my parents are not home, and I get the urge, then yeah I will mastubate, then I will do my "religious mumbo jumbo" afterwards (asking God for forgiveness. doing that makes me feel less guilty and ashamed.)

I have a couple things here for you. I wouldn't say its something to be "proud" of, its just how you were brought up. Do you think other people will think higher of you because you haven't had sex yet? And I don't care that your religious, so am I. (Jewish but anyway...) You were taught religious values, and you were able to follow them. Someything to be proud of? Not really. Something thats getting harder and harder to achieve nowadays, yes.

And a side note, you can't masturbate and ask God for forgiveness right after. It doesn't work like that. (I murdered someone, but I asked God for fogginess. I'll do it again and I'll ask Him again, and it'll be all good :yeah:) No.

oh yeah I forgot, I'm not a Christian anymore. time to log off and get laid.

Do I want to go here?

Sex is a big deal. It's not just "Oh, this feels good, so I'm going to do it." If I don't feel that I'm ready to spend the rest of my life with a girl in a mature, realistic mindset, aka marriage, then I'm not ready for sex. Chastity isn't some dumb religious idea. I'm not religious, I lost my religion a ways back. But I recognize it as seeing sex as more than the material temporary gain. I'm looking for something a lot more meaningful than physical pleasure which I would regret later. Misuse of sex makes it worthless. That's why I'm saving it for later.

I have to agree with you. If I wasn't religious, I am not sure I would say the same, but who knows. But honestly, I don care what other people do. Do I care if someone goes around having sex with everyone in the grade? Yea. Am I going to go over to that person and lecture them about it for an hour? No. It's something I don't approve of.

Animals have multiple sex partners unscrupulously. We oughta be better than that. Sex is the deepest physical connection you can have with someone, and spiritual as well, no matter how you look at it you can't just have sex without it having an impact.

Yea.... No. Not at all. You think its the most spiritual and deepest physical connection with someone if a guy has a one-nighter with a girl? I don't see how thats possible. And yes, you can have sex without making a big impact. Its called a fuck buddy, one nighter etc... do you think those people are going to remember that for the rest of their lives and look back on it and say how deep and meaningful it was? I'm going to have to go with no.

AllThatYouDreamed
November 11th, 2011, 04:55 PM
I don't personally get it. Sex is sex. I mean cmon. If you want it, and they want it. Why the hell not?

If its safer sex, then you're getting rid of *most* of the risks.

If youre abstinent for your own personal reasons, yeah fine.
But "no sex before marriage" type abstinence they teach in some schools pisses me off.

wowisawesome
November 11th, 2011, 08:55 PM
Abstinence is a bit extreme, but you shouldn't go around screwing anything that moves either.

Amnesiac
November 12th, 2011, 01:24 AM
Are you two virgins? Do you speak from experience?

I am. Not by choice, but I don't see how that's relevant at all.

I don't care what you guys say, I am part of a minority group that has not given up their virginity at the teenage years. People have their reasons for remaining a virgin. Wether it's religious, school comes first, parents, or they have no interest in romance until they are ready. For me it's all those reasons. And yes it does take effort to remain a virgin. But for me, since I've been single my whole life, not only do I not want to but I'm not able to.

So how does it take effort? Yeah, you're not interested in sex. I don't see how that's in any way special – I respect the personal decision to abstain from sex, but I will never understand those who feel morally superior to non-virgins because of it.

I'm sure if you ask those who have lost theirs they regret it ( depends on who you are asking). Being avirgin at age 16 in an anti-Christian sex saturated society is a feat that I am proud of, and no one has the right to tell me different.

Yeah, this is not the case. How the fuck is society anti-Christian? We live in a society where abstinence is pushed down our throats by the religious right invading the public school system. This is not a sex saturated society – only 35% of high schoolers are "sexually active" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescent_sexuality_in_the_United_States) – and there are plenty of people just like you who don't give a fuck about getting laid. I mean, shit, I don't even know anybody who's had sex.

It's not something to be proud of. It's just another moral position.

Cybercode
November 12th, 2011, 09:01 AM
I am. Not by choice, but I don't see how that's relevant at all.



So how does it take effort? Yeah, you're not interested in sex. I don't see how that's in any way special – I respect the personal decision to abstain from sex, but I will never understand those who feel morally superior to non-virgins because of it.



Yeah, this is not the case. How the fuck is society anti-Christian? We live in a society where abstinence is pushed down our throats by the religious right invading the public school system. This is not a sex saturated society – only 35% of high schoolers are "sexually active" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolescent_sexuality_in_the_United_States) – and there are plenty of people just like you who don't give a fuck about getting laid. I mean, shit, I don't even know anybody who's had sex.

It's not something to be proud of. It's just another moral position.

You should find pride things that actually take work and skill to accomplish.

Yes. Being a virgin is a personal preference, not something to brag about. People who choose to have sex aren't worse than people who choose to abstain. Keeping one's virginity is something that takes, literally, no effort at all.

Being a virgin takes absolutely no effort from your part at all, I don't advocate taking pride in having sex either but why someone would want to take pride in their own virginity is just beyond me. What AJ meant was it makes more sense to take pride in achievements and accomplishments, rather than innate features like virginity, race, dick size etc.

Woo-hoo, you've abstained from conforming to the norm, you must be so special.

I'm a virgin.

No I'm not. I fucked my father :') [-]Don't take me seriously.[/-]


He means - being a virgin isn't a skill or a talent. It isn't like you spent hours of your day mastering the art of virginity. You didn't get 100% on your abstinence test.

On another note, I don't think staying a virgin is a -really- easy feat. What with teenage hormones and whatnot. Even if you weren't a teenager, well, it's pretty hard to resist.

Still, it's not like virginity's such a big deal.


Not really. Nearly all my friends are virgins.


What religious reasons do you have? Why? Why does your religion teach it? Why do you believe it? Who set these guidelines? What reasons lie behind it? When were these guidelines set? Why do they still apply to the modern era?


And porn comes second.


You do everything your parents ask you to?


Sex =/= romance


You don't need a girlfriend to have sex. Why must we label everyone? Why do we need to put a label on everyone we like? It's just a status. What does it matter?


It's ROTW. If you choose to post - expect to find people with opinions of their own. It's a debate.


Who are you all to tell me what I should be proud of or not? You can't control my life like that. I'm proud of being a Virgin because half the kids in my school already lost theirs. And it's not just a religious reason. It's because I don't want to take the risks of sex either, and school comes first as well as my future. I don't want one mistake screwing it all up. I'm not saying sex is a bad thing, but I choose to abstain from it until I'm ready.

Genghis Khan
November 12th, 2011, 09:25 AM
You can't control my life like that.

Go to your room.

Cybercode
November 12th, 2011, 09:27 AM
Go to your room.

I'm already there.

AllThatYouDreamed
November 12th, 2011, 01:00 PM
Who are you all to tell me what I should be proud of or not?
I never said you should/shouldn't be proud.
I said I don't get why the fuck virginity matters.

wally
November 12th, 2011, 01:19 PM
i waited til i graduated high school... now i'm in college and i'm looking for a girlfriend

Cybercode
November 12th, 2011, 01:34 PM
I never said you should/shouldn't be proud.
I said I don't get why the fuck virginity matters.

I think that was the wrong quote. I hate going on VT on my iphone cause I keep screwing up. Grrrr.

aperson444
November 12th, 2011, 05:30 PM
I really don't see why this is such a big deal. The ultimate point of life is to have sex and pass on your genes. Nothing more, nothing less. It's pleasurable because it's so vital. Why not enjoy it then? Why abstain? Hell the whole point of living is to have sex, so once you get into and pass puberty, technically you're "ready" for sex. I mean c'mon people, it's just another biological action. It shouldn't be so big a deal. We shouldn't glamorize sex, but we shouldn't put so much value in it either. Virginity means nothing.

StoppingTime
November 12th, 2011, 06:06 PM
Who are you all to tell me what I should be proud of or not? You can't control my life like that. I'm proud of being a Virgin because half the kids in my school already lost theirs. And it's not just a religious reason. It's because I don't want to take the risks of sex either, and school comes first as well as my future. I don't want one mistake screwing it all up. I'm not saying sex is a bad thing, but I choose to abstain from it until I'm ready.

Nobodys telling you how to you live your life. We are giving our opinions on it. If you don't want that, then don't post here.

But yea, go to your room :P.

Syvelocin
November 13th, 2011, 06:38 PM
Mmm. Yeah, I think abstinence is bullshit. But virginity is still special, only because you will always remember your first time. In my case, that's a bad thing. But in most cases, it's a good/funny/humiliating memory, and a part of life. Personally, I'd prefer to get married to someone who isn't a virgin, because the longer they've been having sex, the better they're going to be. Practice makes perfect. Imagine your honeymoon and your wife/husband being a complete noob at it and it's awkward as hell. That experience is to be left for when you're young, so the honeymoon can be spectacular.

Seriously. The only people who care whether you've had sex or not before are... well, Christians (or other people who still believe in abstinence). What if your spouse belongs to the other 66% of the world? I wouldn't expect them to still be a virgin, because often you're going to be disappointed.

kitkat1793
November 14th, 2011, 02:38 AM
Abstinence is a personal choice, not a result of unpopolarity or "unnattractiveness". Simple fact. People who abstain just have a different set of values, or points of view.

Maxxie
December 3rd, 2011, 11:20 PM
You're not special if you haven't had sex.

You're missing the fuck out. Pun intended.

Sage
December 4th, 2011, 01:40 PM
Abstinence is a personal choice, not a result of unpopolarity or "unnattractiveness". Simple fact.

That's not a fact. Plenty of people can't get laid because nobody wants to have sex with them.

bleachedteen
December 28th, 2011, 02:27 AM
I believe that when or if you have sex should be a personal decision


but if you don't want a baby use a f*cking condom and have the girl take birth control.
it might help to trust your partner or to know if they are clean, but like I said it's a personal choice and should only be done when both people gave consent and they both feel comfortable

teenageapplelover
December 31st, 2011, 03:39 PM
Time for a long quote post!

Well,

1. I can't get a girlfriend to save my freakin life.
2. I'm a proud virgin (someone actually said that being a Virgin is something not to be proud of at 16)
3. I grew up in a Christian home and was taught Christian values (what now, come at me bro. I dare you)
4. The only sexual thing I do is masturbate, but I try to not do that as well. Say like if my parents are not home, and I get the urge, then yeah I will mastubate, then I will do my "religious mumbo jumbo" afterwards (asking God for forgiveness. doing that makes me feel less guilty and ashamed.)
I am also single, a virgin, and a christian. There is absolutely nothing wrong with masturbation. The verses used against you to say otherwise are taken out of context and misinterpreted. Feel free to message me if you want to discuss it more.

I always wanted to save my v-card for somebody worthwhile, where strong, mutual feelings would be involved. Now that I have found that person, there's really no reason for me to Abstain anymore.
I, personally, am waiting for marriage because of this reason. When both people love each other, have committed to each other, sex is more than just a biological act.

Sex is a big deal. It's not just "Oh, this feels good, so I'm going to do it." If I don't feel that I'm ready to spend the rest of my life with a girl in a mature, realistic mindset, aka marriage, then I'm not ready for sex. Chastity isn't some dumb religious idea. I'm not religious, I lost my religion a ways back. But I recognize it as seeing sex as more than the material temporary gain. I'm looking for something a lot more meaningful than physical pleasure which I would regret later. Misuse of sex makes it worthless. That's why I'm saving it for later.
This is close. I disagree about sex is a big deal. It's not a big deal, really. Any thing can and will do it. What makes it a big deal is when its used to bond two people in a loving relationship. Then sex is more meaningful. Otherwise it is worthless, like you say.

You should find pride things that actually take work and skill to accomplish.
Rawr! Haha. I'd say being a virgin takes work. Resisting temptation is work.

no matter how you look at it you can't just have sex without it having an impact.
I agree with this, but I understand how many of you who are not of faith would not. You have to believe that every human has a soul, the one thing making us better than animals, and that our soul is connected to our physical actions;henceforth, sex is a spiritual thing. I completely understand if you don't feel that way.

Yes. Being a virgin is a personal preference, not something to brag about. People who choose to have sex aren't worse than people who choose to abstain. Keeping one's virginity is something that takes, literally, no effort at all.
I disagree that it takes no effort, but agree there is no reason to gloat about being a virgin or not being a virgin.

Woo-hoo, you've abstained from conforming to the norm, you must be so special.
VIRGIN HIPSTERS.

Go to your room.
This made me laugh. A lot.

I really don't see why this is such a big deal. The ultimate point of life is to have sex and pass on your genes. Nothing more, nothing less. It's pleasurable because it's so vital. Why not enjoy it then? Why abstain? Hell the whole point of living is to have sex, so once you get into and pass puberty, technically you're "ready" for sex. I mean c'mon people, it's just another biological action. It shouldn't be so big a deal. We shouldn't glamorize sex, but we shouldn't put so much value in it either. Virginity means nothing.
It is just another biological action, but it doesn't have to only be that. If we save it for that one special person, and so do they, doesn't it make it that much more special?