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dude14
November 9th, 2011, 06:51 PM
Ok so me and thiskid were loling in bible class bout wanking and this other kid comes up joins in the laughter and then out the blue says- god says thats a sin. Me and the other kid looked at each other and quickly said no. ( before i go further know that im by title chriatian. But know i believe in a nice non jack ass god. I think god hates the sin not the person. Others do not agree. ) but we got in a big fight and just through skripter at eachother. Then he told me i Would believe in god when i was older. That made me so mad. His bible resons behind it were that god hates adultery. Fine i agree. But then he gose on to say wanking is adultery on yourself. And that you can lust yourself. And i believe their needs to be two to have lust and commit adultery. Thus wanking is not a sin. Any thougts? Ps this whole thing makes me question christians.
Zarakly
November 9th, 2011, 06:56 PM
I am a christian, but I'm not really sure if it is a sin or not, I have read that it is, but I have also read that it isnt... But it is the Flesh which is full of sin and everything, Ummm I think, I may be mistaken maybe I heard wrong or something but you are composed of primarily 2 things? it is the Flesh, which is full of sin and deceit, and then there is also the spirit which is Righteous.
But like I said, I may have misunderstood or misheard, but anyway I think it is not a sin, and even if it is, you need to just ask him for your forgiveness after...
EDIT: DO not yell at me please, I'm just saying what I(think) Iheard...
EDIT 2: I too masturbate sooo....
Willy94
November 9th, 2011, 07:05 PM
I like the name of the thread. Those stuborn Christians. I know what u mean, I'm a Christian too, and I masturbate. They are basing their claim off of a line from the bible that says something like " thou shalt not spread thy seed wastefully" I'm not sure exactly what it is. someone at church also told me that as long as u don't do it lustfully. I still do it anyway
Zarakly
November 9th, 2011, 07:07 PM
someone at church also told me that as long as u don't do it lustfully. I still do it anyway
I agree with you.. But umm how do you Not lustfully masturbate?
Willy94
November 9th, 2011, 07:12 PM
Yeah I know that's what I thought
dude14
November 9th, 2011, 07:26 PM
But is it even lust? I mean its yourself. Not some girl or guy.
Zarakly
November 9th, 2011, 07:27 PM
But your making yourself happy and excited so wouldn't it be lust?
dude14
November 9th, 2011, 07:33 PM
But i think lust is like crazy and kinda bad wanting someone. Like alot. so much that its wrong.
Zarakly
November 9th, 2011, 07:35 PM
Ohh Hmm I look it up
Dictionary says this very strong sexual desire
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Foamy
November 9th, 2011, 08:06 PM
Look, who cares what he thinks? You wanna jack off, go ahead. Besides, he probably does it more than you. So, don't Vivek a shit and a half over what some douchebag says is wrong or right. Use your judgement, and listen to you.
@ Emekiel congrats!!!:D
SWMG
November 9th, 2011, 08:30 PM
Ive heard that it is and that it is not, for some it is and for some its not. But the important thing is that your faith remains strong
SportsNutChase
November 9th, 2011, 09:10 PM
Im cathlolic, cant listen to those ppl. Everything is wrong
Jupiter
November 9th, 2011, 09:36 PM
I believe in the God in the Bible, not the "jack ass one" or the "nice" one.
"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.' But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Matthew 5:28).
When you masturbate, it is bad, unless you are doing it to only relieve stress, and not thinking of girls in a lustful way. There is your answer. :)
danny_12
November 9th, 2011, 11:00 PM
lust is directly tied to fornication because bible says if you think about the act, it is as if you've already done it matthew 5:28....... lust is like wanting or fantasizing about someone, This is hard while j/o but it can be done, try focusing on horniness and or feeling during... bible doesn't directly state this and only thing that comes close is when it says a man is "dirty" and ejaculating <on himself, clothing, anything besides in women> but is clean after cleansing the next morning
So personally if im not thinking about sex with a girl or whatever while wanking then i believe im good and not sinning (even though we're all sinners lol)
LuckyLuke
November 9th, 2011, 11:05 PM
Frankly, if you're not going to follow ALL the laws of the religion, don't hate one another when you're not following one of them.
We're not stoning people anymore, nor are we getting married at 14- I'd much rather have someone masturbate than get a girl pregnant at 14 and be screwed.
It's a new world with new rules.
danny_12
November 9th, 2011, 11:21 PM
Frankly, if you're not going to follow ALL the laws of the religion, don't hate one another when you're not following one of them.
We're not stoning people anymore, nor are we getting married at 14- I'd much rather have someone masturbate than get a girl pregnant at 14 and be screwed.
It's a new world with new rules.
Agreed!
spartanrob
November 10th, 2011, 12:14 AM
If its a sin, heaven is going to have like 4 guys in it!
danny_12
November 10th, 2011, 12:21 AM
thats why theres forgiveness and repenting... ftw lol
Hajara22
November 11th, 2011, 08:25 PM
reading anything can be interpreted differently by different people. I am not christian however i think the best way to word your answer is god forgives all sins. no one can lean a totally sinless life sooner or later everyone sins.
macbox84
November 11th, 2011, 09:07 PM
I used to be christian...im not anymore...and i know a lot about religion...masturbationg is a sin in the eyes of conservative christian...it all really opinion because we dnt all believe the exact same thing who cares wit that kid thinks
Fresh
November 12th, 2011, 02:11 AM
Im gonna say it is a sin or its just highly frowned upon. I just happened to be reading this verse the other day
But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. 10 What he did was wicked in the LORD’s sight; so the LORD put him to death also.
So basically he is having sex and he pulls out and cums on the floor. Its the old testament some might say give me something more current. Imma be completley honest, i love the lord and all but my desire to masturabate/have sex is too great not to do it ^^
londonerguy
November 12th, 2011, 05:04 AM
There's no such thing as god so don't worry about it !!!
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