Acid/lsd/dob/doi?

[kinchy]

How often can you do ACID, LSD, or DOB/DOI?
Whats the difference between them, how do you feel about the research chemicals DOB/DOI compared to acid, is there much of a difference?
Right now, where I live, dealers are dealing DOB/DOI instead of acid.. because there is virtually none here.
I ended up tripping for 30 hours instead of 12.
It was great, but.. I was upset that I was lied to.
I'm not trying to promote drug use at all, I just need some proper info + opinons.

[AllThatYouDreamed]

I realize wikipedia isn't the worlds best source but it's good for layman's explanations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,5-Dimethoxy-4-chloroamphetamine)

Just note that it *is* illegal Canada. it looks about the same as LSD though in effects ect.

[aperson444]

The DOx series tends to have a stronger taste than normal LSD. The blotters tend to be bigger and thicker. That's really about it unless you have access to tryptamine test kits or test kits. The DOx series will generally show up on a reagent test. I think. The taste is the real big thing. The effects of DOx are of course a lot different. There's more body load, a longer trip. It's just more nasty. However some people like DOC/DOB/DOI better than LSD. Personally, I do not. I've never gotten DOx blotters. They tend to be either heavily inked or very sparse (i.e WoW blotters, white on white). Real LSD will glow under UV light. Don't expose it too much; LSD is fragile and will decompose in presence of chlorinated water, UV light or heat.

The DOx series are great if you know it's DOx. Otherwise you're in for a hell of a ride. They tend to be more taxing on the body. I've only gotten legit LSD (luckily), but I did not buy off the streets (I have an online vendor). Most acid around here is really weak LSD or 5-MeO-AMT. Some shit like that. Also DOC blotters have been really popular lately, because it's easy as shit to make and the doses are very small (1 mg-3 mg). As for lasting effects, I know the only issue with LSD is bad trips and flashbacks. Those happen rarely. For the DOx series, overdoses can be quite dangerous, but DOx is pretty safe in normal doses (don't take a bunch of unknown blotters). Some people report taking 10+ mg and getting away alive and well. However the trips are insanely long. I like tripping for maybe 6-12 hours, coming down and smoking a bowl myself. A little calm after a crazy ride.

Don't do psychedelics too much. I find that doing it too much takes the magic out of it. My first time I had profound insight and melting visuals, but the second time (like 5 days later I think), it was just kind of stupid. I got the 180 microgram Avatar blotters. If you can find those import blotters, they are generally very good. I also think a chemist made a new batch of LSD, because I've seen A LOT of people starting to sell LSD lately.


All in all watch out for: Bitter (extremely bitter, some report metallic) taste, thick blotters and a long time to take effect. If you suspect DOx, don't redose right away unless you have someone with you. If you can, try to see if it glows under black light. Good LSD is usually found on very small blotters which may have a slightly bitter, but mostly paper taste.

Alexander Shulgin provides excellent details about effects of the DO-halide series:

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal062.shtml (DOB)

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal067.shtml (DOI)

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal064.shtml (DOC)