Why do people have children if they cannot support basic needs.

[DerBear]

Why do people feel the need to bring a child into the world if they cannot provide basic needs for the children i.e food, clothing, shellter, education. I mean if you live in places like Africa and other under developed nations and cannot provide the basics for a child to survive and be healthy.

I mean I see these adverts and on the news about children suffering in 3rd world countries and I think why do people bring them into the world if they cannot provide the basics.

I know everyone has the right to a child but why bring it into a world if all you can give you child is dirty water and rags, (no offesne I know this is a small steryotype but its largely true)

It amazes me that as they are suffering why would they want to bring a child into it to join there suffering.

Am I missing something here?

Anyway post what you guys think below.

(I know I may get negrepped but I am just wondering why people do this)

[StoppingTime]

This has been brought up here before, and I heard really only one reason that I know of that is true. In Africa, many of the women are raped, and don't have any of the contraception methods like we do, so they really have no choice.

This isn't the only reason, however, but I don't have enough information on into provide another.

[Amaryllis]

1. Lack of access to contraception
It isn't as easily available as it is in MEDCs. It's not like every man has a condom in his pocket. Some don't know much about it, either.

2. Rape
Many, many women are raped and left for dead in countries suffering from war and conflict. Conflicts often results from greed, people seek money, diamonds and gold. When a country's in chaos, crimes such as rape slip right under the radar.

3. Abortion isn't easily available
It's not even legal in most countries. Millions upon millions of foetuses are aborted each year. Mostly in more advanced economies. These people don't have access to that.

4. There isn't much to do
It's not like these people go shopping, get manicures, go to concerts, Facebook and listen to iPods everyday. These things we take for granted are luxuries to them. Sex doesn't require money, so, why not?

5. They want families
The wants of poorer people aren't so different from yours. They have fewer wants, perhaps. And maybe you don't want to have children. But, a lot of them do. If we're talking about people living in countries suffering from poverty, many of their relatives are dead and gone. They want a family and loved ones. Maybe they want to be parents. Is that so wrong? Are you just going to ban them from having kids? They already have so little.

6. Women and children are left to fend for themselves
A lot of men just leave. Whether to search for a job, a better life, because they can't take care of themselves and someone else. My grandmother has 15 children. She was really poor and her husband just left her for 5 years and reappeared to make more kids. She loved him, he loved her. They didn't have condoms. I don't know if they were bored. Anyhow, they had sex and my grandmother gave birth -all on her own-.

7. They deserve to have the same rights as anyone else
What do you want to do? Forbid them from reproducing and let everyone of their culture die? They're human just like you and I, and the purpose of a human being is to reproduce. It's a natural human instinct. Stop jacking off, masturbating and falling in love, won't you? Forgive me for having sex without protection. I can't get it. What right do we have to take away theirs?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Yh36sHzIuow/TFDOFxHIB0I/AAAAAAAAAAk/KdKlmAocD2o/s1600/dharavi-industry-615.jpg
And yeah, that place -definitely- looks like it has condoms.

[Genghis Khan]

I think a large part of it might also be the customs and culture. For example, carrying on the name of a tribe. People want children to keep their tribal name going for the next few generations, you can't just expect them to break those customs that have gone on for hundreds of years, that'll just have to gradually find its way to extinction.

[embers]

1. People want to carry on the family name a lot of the time as Rawal said.
2. There's this mindset that the more children you have, the more heads you can throw out to bring the family an income as soon as possible. I think that's especially so in families involved in organised begging, because there you can send out your child at as young an age as possible to earn money.
3. Sex is fun. Some people aren't educated about the consequences.

[FainAgain]

7. They deserve to have the same rights as anyone else
What do you want to do? Forbid them from reproducing and let everyone of their culture die? They're human just like you and I, and the purpose of a human being is to reproduce. It's a natural human instinct. Stop jacking off, masturbating and falling in love, won't you? Forgive me for having sex without protection. I can't get it. What right do we have to take away theirs?

Hmm. Seems to me like you are saying everyone has the right to procreate. Even the 17 year old living with his/her single mom? they cannot support a child and they have no right to force that burden upon their parent.

People make kids because they dont think about the consequences.

And - as was mentioned earlier - its fun.

In my opinion if you do not possess the means to support a child, your have no right to create one.

Also, people living on welfare often have more kids because doing so will increase their check (I'm not criticizing those who actually NEED welfare.)

[StoppingTime]

Hmm. Seems to me like you are saying everyone has the right to procreate. Even the 17 year old living with his/her single mom? they cannot support a child and they have no right to force that burden upon their parent.

People make kids because they dont think about the consequences.

And - as was mentioned earlier - its fun.

In my opinion if you do not possess the means to support a child, your have no right to create one.

Also, people living on welfare often have more kids because doing so will increase their check (I'm not criticizing those who actually NEED welfare.)

They shouldn't do it, if they are in a situation like this, but they have the right.

[DerBear]

Okay so lets move aside the title "they have a right" and "lack of contraception" and rape

And lets move the the overall issue that if you were in this situation where you were struggling to meet basic everyday needs would you still have a child even after suffering this yourself?

I would personally find it hard to bring a child into a suffering enviroment

[AllThatYouDreamed]

Okay so lets move aside the title "they have a right" and "lack of contraception" and rape

And lets move the the overall issue that if you were in this situation where you were struggling to meet basic everyday needs would you still have a child even after suffering this yourself?

I would personally find it hard to bring a child into a suffering enviroment
I believe for some - not all, some - women, the desire for a child is instinctual.

Also, culture. You're expected to have a kid or two live, so you're gonna be popping out 4-10

[StoppingTime]

Okay so lets move aside the title "they have a right" and "lack of contraception" and rape

And lets move the the overall issue that if you were in this situation where you were struggling to meet basic everyday needs would you still have a child even after suffering this yourself?

I would personally find it hard to bring a child into a suffering enviroment

You can't just say what you would do if you were in their place. You have no idea about their individual lives, and what it means to them to have a child. If everyone acted like you say, that they can't have kids unless they "provide basic needs", how many people would be in Africa now?

[Jupiter]

Just because you are poor means you can't have children? I don't like that. My parents are poor, does that mean we shouldn't stay with them?

My mom gives up everything, just for me and my sister. She will go to the end of the world just to put food in our mouths. And yet, you come here telling me that people can't? That's nice man.

Love for children.
Love ≠ money. Love can bring a family together, and in fact, when our power went out, because my parents couldn't pay the bill, we sat in the dark. We love each other man.

[DerBear]

Just because you are poor means you can't have children? I don't like that. My parents are poor, does that mean we shouldn't stay with them?

My mom gives up everything, just for me and my sister. She will go to the end of the world just to put food in our mouths. And yet, you come here telling me that people can't? That's nice man.

Love for children.
Love ≠ money. Love can bring a family together, and in fact, when our power went out, because my parents couldn't pay the bill, we sat in the dark. We love each other man.

I get that I really do. But what I am saying is you get the basics food water clothing ect. where as loads of people in africa dont even get simple basic needs satsified. Love yes can bring a family close yes but it does not stop a hell of a lot of suffering, now does it?

[Jess]

well they just can't not have children right? aren't women in Africa looked down upon if they refuse to have children? (I don't know if I'm right...) also, as it was mentioned before, they have children to carry on the family name

[Jupiter]

I get that I really do. But what I am saying is you get the basics food water clothing ect. where as loads of people in africa dont even get simple basic needs satsified. Love yes can bring a family close yes but it does not stop a hell of a lot of suffering, now does it?

Here.

There is food and water everywhere, or else NO ONE would be there, because everyone needs food, everyone needs water. If they couldn't "provide the needs" then no one would be able to. They can hunt, in Africa.

[StoppingTime]

Here.

There is food and water everywhere, or else NO ONE would be there, because everyone needs food, everyone needs water. If they couldn't "provide the needs" then no one would be able to. They can hunt, in Africa.

This isn't true. Do you think they've got supermarkets in Africa like us? Food certainly isn't easily accessible like that. There is food, but it isn't easy to get. They can get food, it isn't easy, and most people can't afford it either. So does everyone provide for their children perfectly? No. Do I think the bulk of turn try as hard as they can to provide go them? Yes.

[UnknownError]

deja vu. Just scrolled down this too re-read my reply from last time and it's a different thread, okay then.

Personally I think they shouldn't have kids if they cant provide for them self, but it's not me that's having them so whatever.

[Jupiter]

This isn't true. Do you think they've got supermarkets in Africa like us? Food certainly isn't easily accessible like that. There is food, but it isn't easy to get. They can get food, it isn't easy, and most people can't afford it either. So does everyone provide for their children perfectly? No. Do I think the bulk of turn try as hard as they can to provide go them? Yes.

I didn't mean that. But, they can hunt. Not easily, but, it's their right.

[Hajara22]

if that was the case then abortions here would rise because there are always families that cant fully provide for their children. to put it as my mother did. you do the best you can. as long as you give it your best no one can ask for more...