Genders...

[TaylorMM]

Okk i think everyone "profile" that shows up in posts they reply to or make should show atleast their gender i dont see any reason someone wouldnt feel comfortable disclosing this information...

I bring this up because someone posting in Puberty for Girls was harassing males for being in there which yes is against the rules but this person harassing them doesnt even display what gender they are and i would rather know the person im responding to or is responding to me is a guy or a girl then having to guess... Just seems easy for someone to not display what gender they are and go into the Puberty forums for reasons other then what the forums are intended.
Thank You.

[Skyhawk]

I do see what you mean by that, but I'm sure most people aren't afraid of sharing it, maybe they like it blank for the fun of it.

Everyone can have their own level of anonymity of their choosing if they wish in my opinion.

[Ambrosia]

We also have transgender people here, whom are still transitioning, or they aren't sure which gender defines then just yet, or they are afraid that if they choose "female" people will get angry because they have male parts, and vise versa.

[kenoloor]

We also have transgender people here, whom are still transitioning, or they aren't sure which gender defines then just yet, or they are afraid that if they choose "female" people will get angry because they have male parts, and vise versa.
this.
Not to mention the genderqueer, fluid, etc. population as well for which neither male nor female is an appropriate label.

[TaylorMM]

We also have transgender people here, whom are still transitioning, or they aren't sure which gender defines then just yet, or they are afraid that if they choose "female" people will get angry because they have male parts, and vise versa.

Thats fine but isnt there a way they could show transgender on the profile where it shows the male/female sign just put like a T or something... that way it doesnt matter atleast we know there isnt some "perverted" guy posting or lurking in the females only section and vise versa... im not trying to start any trouble i was just curious... And you say people will get mad at the transgenders because of the "parts" they have but i think just as many people or the same people would be upset at the boys posting in girls only or the ones that post in there with a hidden identity as far as their gender is concerned, I cant speak as if girls go in the boys only section (im sure they do) but i wouldnt know because i havent gone in there nor do i plan on it as for i can read the title where it says "for BOYS only". I mean i dunno maybe im wrong and if i am im sorry but to me i dont see the point in even saying "girls only" or "boys only" if people arent going to listen or the site lets the posts stay... I realize its impossible to keep everyone where they belong BUT when someone creates a post in the girls only section and is a male it should raise a red flag that person doesnt obey the site rules or even the section rules.

[cpr97]

this is a touchy subject i believe n i will say that usually the mods are good bout catchin that kind of stuff when it happens n dealin with it theres no real way to prevent it though as far as i can think of... sure you could always put a "T" or "O" for those that arent fully male or female but again thats a touchy situation n i would think the transgenders should / would pick the gender in which they are trying to become n stick to postin in that section n there would be no way of anyone findin out what "parts" they have unless they share that info i think the situation deffinetly deserves attention or again as ive stated in other posts in this section (im not a computer expert) but is there a way the site can make it so if you sign up as a male you cant access the female only section or if you sign up as female you cant enter the male section? or even better prolly more complex but if your male n try to start a thread in the female section it has to get approved just like a "moderated message" would which they could make sure its appropriate to be asked and isnt something that could just be put in the "general puberty" section (which is fine for boys/girls to enter n post) also that is where boys should be askin girls questions or girls askin boys questions
atleast thats what the title says... it seems the problem lies more with the fact people cant read the description / forum rules but they sure can read the threads lol

i have noticed a few repeat offenders in the boys section (girls goin in the boys section n postin) n i know the mods have been made aware (several of them infact) n i trust they will handle it accordingly problem is with the "mod" job bein a volunteer job they cant really tell them when they have to be here which means theres no way to garuntee there will always be a mod online the only way to do that would be to pay people to do so then the cost of maintance of the site goes up n either gotta have annoyin ads on the page (some of which cause popups or viruses) or the site would be forced to charge a fee to join i would assume... either way i dont think theres anyway of stoppin the issue at hand totally someone will always find a way around there always someone smarter out there thats determined enough n like i have said in the past me personally i have no problems with girls goin in the boys section (other then it bein against the rules) as long as what they add is constructive to the topic / question bein commented on n arent causing any hostility. but again thats me speakin for me not anyone else in here... (potential poll question?) LOL oh well now that i just wrote a novel i will move on now just tossin in my thoughts n opinions

[Bath]

Even if it was made to show in everyone's profile, it's still not gonna help the "creepy" lurkers in puberty threads.

Don't sweat it much. It's not a priority, at least I don't see it as one.

[kenoloor]

Even if it was made to show in everyone's profile, it's still not gonna help the "creepy" lurkers in puberty threads.

Don't sweat it much. It's not a priority, at least I don't see it as one.

This.

[xXl0sth0peXx]

Why does it matter to you if someone chooses to not display their gender? Is it really gonna hurt you? If the person doesn't display their gender and you think they're in the wrong forum, report. Does it matter if you're talking to a guy or girl? If you're just chatting on the forum, it shouldn't matter, and if your talking goes farther than that, you can ask them.

The transgender symbol is a BAD idea in my opinion. People who are transitioning may not be comfortable saying that they are, or whatever the reason my be. There are plenty of reasons why not to display your gender. It's up to the person. You can always read their name and interests, if you really care that much.

AND. tbh.. Who would want to be on a forum site that will MAKE you give out information that you're not comfortable giving out? Maybe I don't want you to know my age, or name, but those were REQUIRED to join? Hell, I wouldn't join. Think about how other people would feel if they were forced to give out info they didn't want to.

Summary: Who cares what gender someone is. It's not a big deal.

[AllThatYouDreamed]

What would be wrong with adding a 3rd gender option?
Purple, circle with both arrow&line pointing left.
Yes leave the "undisclosed" option, but yeah. It's a suggestion


The transgender symbol is a BAD idea in my opinion. People who are transitioning may not be comfortable saying that they are, or whatever the reason my be. There are plenty of reasons why not to display your gender. It's up to the person. You can always read their name and interests, if you really care that much.
Then they can choose male/female or leave it blank?

[cpr97]

Why does it matter to you if someone chooses to not display their gender? Is it really gonna hurt you? If the person doesn't display their gender and you think they're in the wrong forum, report. Does it matter if you're talking to a guy or girl? If you're just chatting on the forum, it shouldn't matter, and if your talking goes farther than that, you can ask them.

The transgender symbol is a BAD idea in my opinion. People who are transitioning may not be comfortable saying that they are, or whatever the reason my be. There are plenty of reasons why not to display your gender. It's up to the person. You can always read their name and interests, if you really care that much.

AND. tbh.. Who would want to be on a forum site that will MAKE you give out information that you're not comfortable giving out? Maybe I don't want you to know my age, or name, but those were REQUIRED to join? Hell, I wouldn't join. Think about how other people would feel if they were forced to give out info they didn't want to.

Summary: Who cares what gender someone is. It's not a big deal.
im not sure you understood the OP the sameway i did i think what the OP was reffering to was people that chose not to disclose their gender going in the gender specific sections... again as i stated in my post if you read it it personally doesnt bother me but im sure there are people that feel uncomfortble posting things that they only want someone of their gender to read/reply to so your basically sayin we/the site should respect the feelings of some but not all... again i think if your going be allowed to post in a gender specific section you should disclose your gender imho your gender isnt like your age/name/location there are many reasons people may not want to offer that information for personal security reasons but your gender? how is sayin your male or female gonna put you at risk of anythin... again as its been said before if your a transgender put down what sex your ultimately lookin to become n imho if your to embarassed to do that then you prolly shouldnt of decided to "swap" genders or your doin it for the wrong reasons im sure someone born a male that has made the decision to become a female wouldnt be embarassed to say on a online forum they are a female again if they dont want to be seen as a transgender n they select male or female NOBODY will know they are a transgender unless they disclose the information
and how you say who do you care who your talking to or what they are... well if there are going to be gender specific sections to the forums they are gender specific for a reason which i believe in this case is for the comfort of the members posting in those sections (puberty for boys / girls) lets face it if girls were going to post or ask something they didnt care if boys read or replied to they would post it in general puberty section (which is OKAY for boys n girls to both view, post n comment on) again you may not care but others do and i think you as well as all of us should respect their feelings just like you want your feelings n opinions respected now obviously what the OP was trying to get at is they dont feel comfortble posting in a girls only section when boys go in there n post or people with a "mystery" gender go in n post but i do believe the original post said something bout she didnt mind the boys posting that atleast disclosed their gender again this is all her personal feelings n its not up to me you or anyone else on here including admins or mods (which im sure n hope they would agree) to decide what should or shouldnt make her comfortble n as i stated in a previous comment the mods generally do a good idea of taking care of the posts n members that go into the wrong sections im not sure of what the "punishment(s)" are for repeat offenders that continuiously go in n post in a section they dont belong in if theres any at all or if its just done on a case by case situation again i think if everyone followed the rules it wouldnt be an issue but some people either cant read the rules or just simply feel they dont have to obey them... now if you were forced to display your gender i do think that would help the mods in making sure people are posting where they are supposed to be posting... and if they made people display thier gender to belong or post in the gender specific sections i dont think anyone using the site for what its intended for would have any issues with displayin their gender to post.

so in summary i will agree with the OP to an extent by sayin if you want to be able to post in the gender specific sections you should have to display your age so everyone knows your posting in the right section n as i suggested before if the site / staff wanted to find out the general concensus of the members of the site (that post in those sections) they could do a poll in the specific sections that would tell if the majority of the posters for that section are comfortable with someone of the other gender readin/replyin to their posts in the "boy/girl" only section whether or not its against the rules for the opposite gender to go in those sections cuz no matter what there will always be those that will "fly under the radar" n find different ways to break the rules without gettin caught

[xXl0sth0peXx]

Then they can choose male/female or leave it blank?

But the OP is saying they HAVE to say the gender. So leaving it blank wouldn't be an option. I see where you're coming from, I just don't agree.

im not sure you understood the OP the sameway i did i think what the OP was reffering to was people that chose not to disclose their gender going in the gender specific sections...

so in summary i will agree with the OP to an extent by sayin if you want to be able to post in the gender specific sections you should have to display your age so everyone knows your posting in the right section n as i suggested before if the site / staff wanted to find out the general concensus of the members of the site (that post in those sections) they could do a poll in the specific sections that would tell if the majority of the posters for that section are comfortable with someone of the other gender readin/replyin to their posts in the "boy/girl" only section whether or not its against the rules for the opposite gender to go in those sections cuz no matter what there will always be those that will "fly under the radar" n find different ways to break the rules without gettin caught

That's not what I took from it, but so basically, the you're saying that the op/you want a rule that people can't post in the p101 if they don't say what gender they are? That's kind of stupid, no offense. A poll wouldn't really do much good, because many members don't vote in polls.

Remember it's not against the rules for Females to read the Male P101 and vice versa.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I respect the opinion of others. But forcing people to show their gender to go in a certain forum? That wouldn't exactly be fun to enforce, plus, it's not fair to say that to people.


Also, another point why not, If someone is harassing someone, report! Gender or not, it doesn't matter! If they're harassing, then that's a reportable offense. Problem solved, without having to force people to show their gender.

[cpr97]

Remember it's not against the rules for Females to read the Male P101 and vice versa.

you may want to look into that a little better cuz i think your wrong... especially seen as if you read right below the link to enter those forums its says: The Puberty forum for BOYS ONLY. The only sex questions permitted are sex-ed questions.
The Puberty forum for GIRLS ONLY. The only sex questions permitted are sex-ed questions.

but what do i know im only goin by what i read on the site... :confused:

and also when i have spoken to moderators of this site and those forums they did say its against the rules but here is how the Puberty rules read which may i add everyone is supposed to read before posting:
Gender Specific Guidelines:

1) All members including all staff members can only answer questions in the P101 forum of their own gender. If you’re a boy, post in boys or general puberty. If you’re a girl, post in the girls or general puberty forum.

2) Staff members may post in the forum of their opposite sex for the purpose of moderation only.

3) All threads asking questions about the other sex will be moved to General Puberty.

4) All posts made by members of the opposite designated sex for that forum will be deleted and possibly warned.

Any member who violates any of these rules will be warned, receive an infraction, be frozen or banned. Posts may be deleted or edited and a thread may be locked or deleted. If you have any questions, PM a moderator by clicking on their username and scrolling down to "Send (username) a Private Message"



The Different Sections:

You’ve probably noticed that Puberty 101 is broken into four different forums:

- Questions for both Boys & Girls
- Puberty for Boys
- Puberty for Girls
- Puberty 101 Archive

Let’s go through each one individually:

Questions For Both Boys & Girls

The following goes in here:
- Guys, anything you want to ask girls (WITHIN REASON, you know what I mean!)
- Girls, anything you want to ask guys (Again WITHIN REASON).
- Surveys. There are a LOT of surveys in Puberty 101 so they all go here. Even if they are only for one gender please put them in here.
- Polls.

Anything that you put in here that is more suited to another forum, it will be moved. Please note if your thread is moved, you should learn for next time.

Puberty for Boys (BOYS ONLY ALLOWED TO MAKE THREADS)

- Questions about penises: Size, cut/uncut questions, masturbation , underwear etc.
- Questions about body hair, facial hair, growth, height etc.
- Questions about experimenting and sex. (in accordance with the above rules)

Once again, if it’s not right for this forum, it’ll be moved. For example, "Am I gay?" questions may be moved to Teen Sexuality.

Puberty for Girls (GIRLS ONLY ALLOWED TO MAKE THREADS)

- Breast/nipple sizes, comparing, bras, etc.
- Masturbation, sex and experimenting (in accordance with the above rules)
- Bras/underwear.
- Period, pain, pads, etc.

If it’s not for P101 – girls, rest assured it will be moved.

so i think now everyone can see it IS against the rules for boys to go into the girls only forum n girls to go into the boys only forum. seems pretty cut n dry to me but i guess some people again either choose not to read the rules or just choose not to obey them, again i will go back to what i have said before if everyone just followed the rules this wouldnt be an issue to begin with

[TaylorMM]

Okay wow I didnt mean for or intend for this to turn into a debate or argument I was simply putting a suggestion out there it was just something that was on my mind and xXl0sth0peXx I am sorry that I felt uncomfortable about something that doesnt make you uncomfortable I am not sure what I was thinking. It seems like everyone on here just argues and bickers back and forth at eachother maybe it was a mistake for me to even join. I thought this was a place we could come to and discuss things in our lives with other people that are going through similar things and we could all learn and help people but its starting to seem like its more of a place to fight and I for one am not looking to fight.

[xXl0sth0peXx]

1) All members including all staff members can only answer questions in the P101 forum of their own gender. If you’re a boy, post in boys or general puberty. If you’re a girl, post in the girls or general puberty forum.

Puberty for Boys (BOYS ONLY ALLOWED TO MAKE THREADS)

Puberty for Girls (GIRLS ONLY ALLOWED TO MAKE THREADS)

so i think now everyone can see it IS against the rules for boys to go into the girls only forum n girls to go into the boys only forum. seems pretty cut n dry to me but i guess some people again either choose not to read the rules or just choose not to obey them, again i will go back to what i have said before if everyone just followed the rules this wouldnt be an issue to begin with

Hon, it says make threads, not go. There are no rules about going into the P101 forums for the other gender. You can answer questions of the P101 forum of your gender only, but you can read anything.

So it's not so cut and dry, as the rules DON'T say girls can't go into the boys and boys in girls. Plus, that would be IMPOSSIBLE to enforce.

Okay wow I didnt mean for or intend for this to turn into a debate or argument I was simply putting a suggestion out there it was just something that was on my mind and xXl0sth0peXx I am sorry that I felt uncomfortable about something that doesnt make you uncomfortable I am not sure what I was thinking. It seems like everyone on here just argues and bickers back and forth at eachother maybe it was a mistake for me to even join. I thought this was a place we could come to and discuss things in our lives with other people that are going through similar things and we could all learn and help people but its starting to seem like its more of a place to fight and I for one am not looking to fight.

Hon, that's what this is about. It's nothing bad, we're just expressing our opinions. No arguing or anything. I'm not saying it isn't a good suggestion, I'm just saying that I don't like it. You can feel however you want. I'm not here to tell you how to feel. I never bashed you or said you were wrong to feel that way. People here don't argue and bicker always. In fact, we're not really arguing.. just expressing opinions. That is what this site is about. No one is fighting. I don't fight, and I don't want to fight either.

[cpr97]

well then i guess the mods i have spoke to about it are wrong but either way they are the mods not you or i n they enforce n know the rules better then either of us again we could debate this forever but it wont do any good however maybe 1 of the mods can/should clear this up as far as the gender specific sections go with who can/cant go in there and or post cuz obviously the rules are vague n should be clarified if people have disputes or trouble interperting them cuz like anything 4 different people could read the same rule n get 4 different interpertations of it... if nothin else we have both come to the conclusion that theres is n issue at hand which SHOULD be and imho NEEDS to be addressed off of the OP.

So mods/admins would 1 of you please interpert this vague rule for us?

n xXl0sth0peXx i do believe the OP was bout someone postin in the gender specific area that has no gender displayed i dont think it was bout anyone lookin in those areas cuz you dont even gotta be a member to just view the forums as far as i know just to post in them so again it is a violation of the rules to post in them which you have even agreed on there is NO way to stop people from viewing ANY forum in here the topic at hand is bout posting n replying to threads, i think the OP had 2 issues in this 1 thread... 1 seemed to be people displayin their gender i will agree they shouldnt be FORCED to display that if they want to belong here HOWEVER if they wish to POST / REPLY to threads in the gender specific sections they should be required to display or disclose their age... posting, commenting and being a member of this site is like belonging to any club it is not a RIGHT its a PRIVLEDGE if it was everyones right to belong post or comment here the mods wouldnt be able to "ban" people. so YES the site has every right to take action with this issue presented or make it mandatory to display your gender to post in certain sections and if some members wish to not display their gender then they at the sametime are givin up their privledges to post in those sections again im not sure theres anyway for the server to do this automatically or not but if it were written into the rules it could be done n just if people violate or decide to post in those sections without displayin their gender it would be up to the mods to either move or delete the post n "warn" the poster if its warranted again we have obviously discovered that the rule needs to be either elaborated on or written differently so its more understandable that is up to the site staff n imho should be done to prevent any further confusion in the future i mean rules n guidelines HAVE to be constantly reviewed edited or even re-written in order for anythin to work n to keep people followin them. i just hope the staff takes the initiative to atleast clarify the rule or even revisit the rule book to make sure theres no way to make the rule easier to understand.

[Donkey]

i think we've had enough of this. I'm pretty sure we will not be forcing members to set a gender male/female on their profile. Girls should post in girls p101, boys should post in boys p101. If that rule is broken, report the post. :locked: