Post your unpopular opinions in this thread

[huginnmuninn]

if a person is missing a chromosome they arent human

[Genghis Khan]

if a person is missing a chromosome they arent human

http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/338-squidward-doesnt-care.jpg

Looks like you're missing a few.

[Amaryllis]

if a person is missing a chromosome they arent human

http://img.memecenter.com/uploaded/fc0bb6efcf8602872050b5919ae3a1cd.jpg

So we have 46 chromosomes, apes have 48. Does this mean we de-evolutionised? Chromosomes just don't go poof, yeah? Naw. The two missing chromosomes just fused together. And why? Because it makes it difficult for humans to mate with chimpanzees :)

So people with chromosome abnormalities simply have some portions of a chromosome deleted, some chromosomes duplicated, fused, made into a ring, inverted or copied.

But if you ask me, you and I are much more likely to make half-ape babies than people with "missing" chromosomes.

[Peace God]

Man, I ain't even missin' any chromosomes and I still got that down syndrome ifyaknowwhatimsayinnnn. :watsup:

[Korashk]

But they are still people. They may not be able to do things that the majority of people can, but that doesn't make them not humans.
Person and human are not synonyms, or even directly related classifications. A things doesn't have to be human to be a person, likewise not all humans are people.

[StoppingTime]

Person and human are not synonyms, or even directly related classifications. A things doesn't have to be human to be a person, likewise not all humans are people.

OK, they are both humans and people. How can you say someone isn't either of these because they have a mental disability?

[Syvelocin]

Thing is cancer can be treated, and they can be productive members of society, retards just sit around siphoning off the money we pay taxes for while we waste time trying to put them through school etc. Waste of time.

I'm another pissed off person who's related to two people with down syndrome.

Caitlin and Mary. Mary is my aunt and Caitlin is my cousin. They are just the light of the family. How the rest of us can be such bitches to each other and then these two girls have the power to bring us back to peace. My grandfather recently died, and so the final thread of the family is Mary. She's the reason everyone's still seeing each other. She's a complete angel. One New Year's Eve when I was little,, while we were at my grandfather's house (which we do every year), I was very upset. My aunt and my mum were at it again and I was crying downstairs on the sofa. Mary leaves the kitchen and comes to sit right next to me and hugs me and stayed with me until I fell asleep right there.

Caitlin is another story. You see, she's a bit different from your typical special needs kid. Well, she's technically two years older than me. See, she has the mind she should have, it's very apparent. She's very smart. It's the communication and behaviour. But Caitlin is one of those girls who just loves to have a good time, adores making people laugh over anything else. She's always laughing herself. I really honestly don't know the state our family would be in if it wasn't for those two. They aren't a waste, but a complete blessing to our family.

Retards dont learn anything

Lol what? They aren't completely void of learning capacity. Caitlin is actually on high school curriculum, and well... Mary knows every single standard musical from beginning to end and can act them all out, heh. That takes a lot of learning...

[Grimm]

I'm a Communist (Trotskyist)
I'm a Ignostic (No, not a Agnostic)
I hate the Communist Party Of America (Odd for a Communist)
I like Oldstep more then Newstep (Dubstep)
I support John Huntsman (Even more odd for a Communist)

[Sage]

I support John Huntsman (Even more odd for a Communist)

Would you care to go in depth as to why you support a republican candidate as a communist? I'm extremely interested in hearing how someone reasons that out.

[Grimm]

Would you care to go in depth as to why you support a republican candidate as a communist? I'm extremely interested in hearing how someone reasons that out.
Because I'm a Trotskyist. They believe that there need to be a quickly spreading revolution to create a Communist State. Communism Cant hold out in a hostile Capitalist world. Also If I don't go Huntsman I have to pick a Non-Moderate (The rest of the GOP) or a spineless Democrat (Obama). Huntsman is sane. And I support sanity.

And on the whole mental disability topic A man is someone who stands for something. I as a bag of Flesh and bones am worth nothing. But as a collection of Meme's, Ideas and Biases am worth something. A man who stands and fights for nothing is not a man, he is a leach. Interpret this anyway you will. That is what I think.

Please don't double-post. Use the "Edit" button instead. ~TheMatrix

[Rache. xx.]

Prostition is wrong... I don't think you have to be in love or even know the person you sleep with but the thought of exchanging money or having sex as a career disgusts me.

[Jess]

Prostition is wrong... I don't think you have to be in love or even know the person you sleep with but the thought of exchanging money or having sex as a career disgusts me.

just because it's disgusting doesn't mean it's wrong...how does it hurt you?

[kenoloor]

Popular Opinion: I miss Sage.

[aperson444]

Would you care to go in depth as to why you support a republican candidate as a communist? I'm extremely interested in hearing how someone reasons that out.

I too am a Communist, I support some Republican candidates as well, especially Ron paul and the like. It was Bakunin's own words that Socialism cannot exist without liberty nor liberty without Socialism, thus I am a firm believer in Libertarianism and the rights of the masses. I feel that both Capitalism and Stalinist/Fascist Totalitarianism oppress these rights and only a Libertarian Internationalist Communist system based heavily on Anarcho-Syndicalist principles can restore freedom to the worker and in turn the people of the world.

On the topic of Prostitution, it is both the customer and the sellers' right to be involved in this business. I do think that prostitutes should need licenses or at least annual or bimonthly tests. They should also be encouraged to require condom use. Only when we have large conglomerates of prostitutes, do we have to become careful. This is the foundation of monopoly and corporation; an enemy to the well being and liberty of the people. To me, homosexuality is distasteful, maybe a little gross to me, but I don't oppose gay marriage. Learn to accept peoples' perspectives as their own!

[Jupiter]

Tuesday= Ericday

[Jean Poutine]

Well...

Everyone has the right to recognition everywhere as a person before the law.

...nah.

[Grimm]

I too am a Communist, I support some Republican candidates as well, especially Ron paul and the like. It was Bakunin's own words that Socialism cannot exist without liberty nor liberty without Socialism, thus I am a firm believer in Libertarianism and the rights of the masses. I feel that both Capitalism and Stalinist/Fascist Totalitarianism oppress these rights and only a Libertarian Internationalist Communist system based heavily on Anarcho-Syndicalist principles can restore freedom to the worker and in turn the people of the world.

On the topic of Prostitution, it is both the customer and the sellers' right to be involved in this business. I do think that prostitutes should need licenses or at least annual or bimonthly tests. They should also be encouraged to require condom use. Only when we have large conglomerates of prostitutes, do we have to become careful. This is the foundation of monopoly and corporation; an enemy to the well being and liberty of the people. To me, homosexuality is distasteful, maybe a little gross to me, but I don't oppose gay marriage. Learn to accept peoples' perspectives as their own!


You sir get a 10/10.

[antiabort]

Marijuana has ZERO benefits unless you use it as medicine, it IS a drug, it IS bad for you, it does not cure cancer, it does not grow brain cells, it is carcinogenic just like any other smoke, and it is not some goddamn magical cure all plant from god like lazy ass stoners make it sound.

[kenoloor]

Marijuana has ZERO benefits unless you use it as medicine, it IS a drug, it IS bad for you, it does not cure cancer, it does not grow brain cells, it is carcinogenic just like any other smoke, and it is not some goddamn magical cure all plant from god like lazy ass stoners make it sound.

Nobody claimed that marijuana ever cured anything. And anybody who does claim that is almost as ignorant as that post.

[antiabort]

Nobody claimed that marijuana ever cured anything. And anybody who does claim that is almost as ignorant as that post.

Nobody has ever claimed that? You must be the most sheltered person I have ever met. And how the hell is stating facts ignorant?

[Korashk]

Marijuana has ZERO benefits unless you use it as medicine, it IS a drug, it IS bad for you, it does not cure cancer, it does not grow brain cells, it is carcinogenic just like any other smoke, and it is not some goddamn magical cure all plant from god like lazy ass stoners make it sound.
A) You don't have to smoke pot, there are plenty of other ways to use it without the carcinogen effect.
B) While it isn't a magical cure, THC has been shown to inhibit the growth of tumors. This is a fact.

[Syvelocin]

Christmas is stupid.

[kenoloor]

Nobody has ever claimed that? You must be the most sheltered person I have ever met. And how the hell is stating facts ignorant?

Anybody who claims that is extremely uneducated. Stating irrelevant facts is unnecessary, and claiming idiotic things is ignorant.

[User Deleted]

Christmas is stupid.

I actually agree. On Christmas people waste money on things for other people that they want themselves. So if you don't believe in a branch of Christianity, it might as well be done away with and replaced with "Buy something what you want for yourself" day. (not a creative name, since I'm having trouble thinking of names at the time)

[Vonn]

Sports are boring as hell.

[antiabort]

Sports are boring as hell.

Could not agree more, the only "sport" I like is swimming, but I do it for fun.

[Jess]

Sports are boring as hell.

I definitely agree with this

[aperson444]

Marijuana has ZERO benefits unless you use it as medicine, it IS a drug, it IS bad for you, it does not cure cancer, it does not grow brain cells, it is carcinogenic just like any other smoke, and it is not some goddamn magical cure all plant from god like lazy ass stoners make it sound.

LOL:

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/25509 ("Cannabinoids promote embryonic and adult hippocampus neurogenesis and produce anxiolytic- and antidepressant-like effects" aka, grow brain cells)

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014579398010850 (Delta9-detrahydrocannabinol induces apoptosis in C6 glioma cells" aka, kills cancer cells)

http://www.nature.com/nrc/journal/v3/n10/abs/nrc1188.html ("Cannabinoids: potential anticancer studies" aka, pretty much sums up the cancer argument, although there's plenty more articles)

http://norml.org/component/zoo/category/cannabis-smoke-and-cancer-assessing-the-risk (This is a well done page by a pro-legalization group in the US. Pretty much sums up the argument and puts it in layman's terms).

So uh, you should read more. It's pretty ignorant when you reduce legitimate scientific research and 1000 years of anecdotal evidence as a formulation by a bunch of "lazy ass stoners". And if you are really serious about that and think that all these researchers are simply lazy ass stoners, then I'll be damned, I want to be a lazy ass stoner. More productive than the people on Capitol Hill, at least!

[antiabort]

LOL:

http://www.jci.org/articles/view/25509 ("Cannabinoids promote embryonic and adult hippocampus neurogenesis and produce anxiolytic- and antidepressant-like effects" aka, grow brain cells)

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0014579398010850 (Delta9-detrahydrocannabinol induces apoptosis in C6 glioma cells" aka, kills cancer cells)

http://www.nature.com/nrc/journal/v3/n10/abs/nrc1188.html ("Cannabinoids: potential anticancer studies" aka, pretty much sums up the cancer argument, although there's plenty more articles)

http://norml.org/component/zoo/category/cannabis-smoke-and-cancer-assessing-the-risk (This is a well done page by a pro-legalization group in the US. Pretty much sums up the argument and puts it in layman's terms).

So uh, you should read more. It's pretty ignorant when you reduce legitimate scientific research and 1000 years of anecdotal evidence as a formulation by a bunch of "lazy ass stoners". And if you are really serious about that and think that all these researchers are simply lazy ass stoners, then I'll be damned, I want to be a lazy ass stoner. More productive than the people on Capitol Hill, at least!


mmhmm. If it is that damn good for you why are we always taught that it is not good for you? Just so you know, I'm not some straightedge douchebag, in fact I smoke weed almost every day. However I believe it is only good for getting you high.

[aperson444]

We're taught such because the United States has kept federal legislation to ban it. Perhaps there's a grain of truth in what they teach us in school, but it's all pretty exaggerated. I didn't come to this conclusion by thinking "DERP SCHMOKE WEED ERRY DAY ALL DAY MANNNN", but through careful analysis of scientific and legal documents and evidence. Schools teach what the politicians want them to teach when it comes to health classes. They don't want their students to be arrested. In effect, we've created a society that shuns opinions that go against the leading political agendas. It's very hard to do research on weed that shows it has benefits. NIDA will only supply marijuana to studies that could show that marijuana is bad (they are the only ones that can supply marijuana to those with DEA licenses). Of course, this has backfired on them. Dr. Donald Tashkin found that marijuana actually DECREASED the risk of lung, head and neck cancers in heavy smokers. Big herp derp on the part of the government anti-marijuana campaign.

Truth is that there most certainly is medicinal benefit. The US government even has a patent to show it. We can't call it a wonder drug, but it definitely is very broad in its many uses.

[RoseyCadaver]

Billy Jean was Michael's lover.

[Genghis Khan]

Billy Jean was Michael's lover.

The kid was his son.

[User Deleted]

Watching sports is a useless pastime. I have many useless pastimes, but hey, why watch it instead of play it.

[antiabort]

Israel has no right to exist and should be carpet bombed until nothing but ashes remain.

[Genghis Khan]

Israel has no right to exist and should be carpet bombed until nothing but ashes remain.

Let's just, restrict those bombs towards Zionists only. How about that? Alrighty then. Sexual time.

[Sugaree]

Israel has no right to exist and should be carpet bombed until nothing but ashes remain.

So you think that Palestine is the perfect state? They've done the same things that Israel has done to them. I don't support Israel, I support Palestine. But to say that Israel doesn't "deserve" the right to exist is denying them their rights as humans. It's like saying Sudan has no right to exist because of their actions towards Somalia.

[StoppingTime]

Israel has no right to exist and should be carpet bombed until nothing but ashes remain.

I'm not going to argue pro/anti Israel because its obvious I can't win that argument now, but regardless, anyone has the right to exist.

[antiabort]

Let's just, restrict those bombs towards Zionists only. How about that? Alrighty then. Sexual time.

sounds good /pol/bro

[aperson444]

All I can say is that what Israel has done is totally unacceptable.

[antiabort]

All I can say is that what Israel has done is totally unacceptable.

Fucking this.

[Jean Poutine]

I'm pro-Israel only to the extent I'm pro-stop waving dicks around in the Near East.

Israel is beset by a ton of Arab countries who deny its very right to exist. You can't even enter their border if they spot an Israeli visa in your passport. It's been invaded repeatedly and innocent citizens still are gunned, slashed, bombed by extremist factions based all around it.

Israel has the right to defend itself, and when your entire history has been shaped by bullies trying to knock you down time and time again, one can understand why they sometimes go over the top with their responses.

Chat échaudé craint l'eau tiède.

[Genghis Khan]

Israel is beset by a ton of Arab countries who deny its very right to exist.

Probably because its very existence is funded by oh I don't know, the superpower that is America? Name a single Arab nation that is that heavily funded by America.


Israel has the right to defend itself, and when your entire history has been shaped by bullies trying to knock you down time and time again, one can understand why they sometimes go over the top with their responses.

Trying to justify innocent Palestinian's deaths with that kind of response is totally stupid. Jews have been persecuted in the past, they obviously never deserved that kind of treatment to begin with, so why couldn't Europe [British Mandate in particular] (after the fall of Nazi Germany and anti-semetic ideals) give a portion of its own land to the Jews as a homeland instead of invading what was already Palestine and giving Zionists the power to bring down Palestinian homes and wreak havoc upon the families.

[Jean Poutine]

Probably because its very existence is funded by oh I don't know, the superpower that is America? Name a single Arab nation that is that heavily funded by America.

So what? Canada's very existence is funded with trade from the United States. It's a third of our GDP. Nobody wants Canada to cease to exist.

Trying to justify innocent Palestinian's deaths with that kind of response is totally stupid. Jews have been persecuted in the past, they obviously never deserved that kind of treatment to begin with, so why couldn't Europe [British Mandate in particular] (after the fall of Nazi Germany and anti-semetic ideals) give a portion of its own land to the Jews as a homeland instead of invading what was already Palestine and giving Zionists the power to bring down Palestinian homes and wreak havoc upon the families.

Considering that Jewish immigration to Palestine began way before the British got a mandate over Palestine, that Palestine was and is considered by the Jewish as their homeland, that there always has been frictions between Arabs and Jews and that Arabs are the ones who rejected the UN plan, went to civil war and lost, I really, really don't see your point.

Maybe we should give all our land back to the Native Americans while we're at it. My ancestors are from the very first wave of French immigration into North America. I bet they lynched some Natives to get their land 'round Nova Scotia. I should make it fair, give them my house and gtfo.

Truth is, "who has been there the longest" is irrelevent. There are a ton of Jews who know nothing else except Israel as their homeland. It's time to end the prick-measuring contest and finally live and let live.

[Azunite]

Israel has the right to defend itself, and when your entire history has been shaped by bullies trying to knock you down time and time again, one can understand why they sometimes go over the top with their responses.


The guy has a point here. Jewish people were always disliked by Christians in Europe. Being the richest merchants and bankers, they controlled money, they were envied by the others.

And well the hatred against them reached it's zenith in WW2.

They live right next door to heart of Islam and they are the one and only Jewish country in the world. Everyone around them wants to destroy them. They have to be bitchy, they have to overreact, they have to show their powe r whenever possible.

[kenoloor]

Unpopular opinion: this thread is ridiculously exhausted. Also, I miss thatfatguy.

[StoppingTime]

So what? Canada's very existence is funded with trade from the United States. It's a third of our GDP. Nobody wants Canada to cease to exist.



Considering that Jewish immigration to Palestine began way before the British got a mandate over Palestine, that Palestine was and is considered by the Jewish as their homeland, that there always has been frictions between Arabs and Jews and that Arabs are the ones who rejected the UN plan, went to civil war and lost, I really, really don't see your point.

Maybe we should give all our land back to the Native Americans while we're at it. My ancestors are from the very first wave of French immigration into North America. I bet they lynched some Natives to get their land 'round Nova Scotia. I should make it fair, give them my house and gtfo.

Truth is, "who has been there the longest" is irrelevent. There are a ton of Jews who know nothing else except Israel as their homeland. It's time to end the prick-measuring contest and finally live and let live.

Point. Is. Here. There are always going to be issues like this. Land is won, Israel was eventually won by the "Jews", you could say. It was established into a "Jewish State". Why don't they have a right to do this? Yes, they took land from people who were already living there (there were kicked out first originally, but we won't go there...) Like he said, if you think its wrong, America wouldn't be a country, it would be all for the Natives.
And what do you think would happen if it was turned into a 100% Arab state? The Jews would be cool with that?

. Also, I miss thatfatguy.

Same. R.I.P. king of all VT trolls.

[Genghis Khan]

So what? Canada's very existence is funded with trade from the United States. It's a third of our GDP. Nobody wants Canada to cease to exist.

I had to re-read this a couple of times before I found that I had misunderstood your previous post.

Truth is, "who has been there the longest" is irrelevent. There are a ton of Jews who know nothing else except Israel as their homeland. It's time to end the prick-measuring contest and finally live and let live.

I'm always in favour of 'live and let live'. The sole reason why I'm against the Israeli government is its actions against the Palestinian people. If it advocated peace and equality between the 'native' Arabs and the Jewish majority, I wouldn't have a problem with calling it Israel.

The guy has a point here. Jewish people were always disliked by Christians in Europe. Being the richest merchants and bankers, they controlled money, they were envied by the others.

While they have a bad history with the Europeans, that doesn't justify going into war with what was already Palestine, taking over and persecuting the natives, pushing them out of their homes. I mean, what the fuck dude. The most (I'll call it reasonable) reasonable thing Europe could've done would've been give the Jews European land that they can call their own if they want to 'make up for old times'.

They live right next door to heart of Islam and they are the one and only Jewish country in the world. Everyone around them wants to destroy them. They have to be bitchy, they have to overreact, they have to show their powe r whenever possible.

No they don't. Nobody has to resort to a display of power towards civilians that have nil to do with the country's war.

[StoppingTime]

The most (I'll call it reasonable) reasonable thing Europe could've done would've been give the Jews European land that they can call their own if they want to 'make up for old times'.



This point really stood out to me, for all the wrong reasons. The reasons that Jews always hated the European Christians is because they were constantly being persecuted by them, and were almost never allowed to live in peace. Sure, they were usually wealthy, helped with the governments, etc... But that only lasted for so long until the Christians realized they couldn't have the Jews in charge in that part of Europe of they might revolt against them, take over completely....
Back to the point. The Jews were offered land in Europe, and turned it down. Why would they want it? They didn't pick the land of Palestine as their home to piss off the Arabs. It was to reestablish their homeland after over a thousand years of exile from the land.

So you tell me, if a nation is kicked out of their land, and over a thousand years later they are offered to live somewhere else which could be considered their new "home", does that make much sense? Not to mention that the holiest artifacts to them are in Jerusalem.

[aperson444]

First off, there is a large group of Jews who are 100% against Israel. These are Orthodox Jews, mind you, and they are so anti-Israel, that they have met with the president of Iran to thank him for his efforts against Israel (although no military action has been taken). Zionism and Judaism are polar opposites. What gives a few Jews backed by a few Western Powers the right to wrest land from people who had lived there for many, many years. Hell, before Israel, Muslims, Christians and Jews actually did fairly well together. Only when this Israel bullshit came up did violence escalate. Jewish terrorist slaughtered Palestinian and British forces, Palestinians got pissed off and rioted.

There's already an Oblast in Eastern Russia (isolated from the rest of Russia for the most part) that's called the "Jewish Oblast". Why not let the Jews form a Jewish state there? This land called Palestine is holy to many religions, not only Judaism. Therefore it belongs to all three. It should be a secular non-state region that is supervised by international organizations rather than a single central Jewish, Muslim or Christian government. If the Zionists picked some land in the middle of the Sahara Desert, Siberia, Canada or what have you, I would have no issue. No one would be displaced. But this whole ordeal is just not acceptable.

Also, many Palestinians are actually genetically related to Sephardic Jews and Levant "Arabs" (Lebanese people) by virtue of their Y-chromosome markers. So in reality a lot of that land should actually go to the Palestinians. Even if Palestinians are really just Syrians in disguise, that does not justify Israeli occupation. That's like kicking someone out of their house because your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents once farmed oranges near that house, but a war came and they left. After the war, some other people decided to enter and live in the seemingly abandoned house to live and farm more oranges. But then all in a sudden you come along with a decree from a few powerful organizations that declares the house the historic property of your family, thus you must evict those people in that house. You let them set up tents next to the house and offer that they can move to another region, but they had not harvested their crop. They are living in poverty in tents next to teh house. Then you find that the place where the tents are actually have the most fertile soil for your oranges so you tell them "We're going to plant a few oranges where you have your tents set up", they agree reluctantly and let you settle in the area, but then you start knocking down their tents because you want to plant more oranges. Meanwhile these people had been trying to grow crops of their own to feed their family and make some money, and you tear those out of the ground. How do you justify that? Should these people just bow down and get the fuck out? Should they really just give up all of their hard work because your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandparents once owned that land?

You guys all act like Israel is the victim here, surrounded by haters, but that's just not true. Israel is a fairly powerful nation, with a good economy and plenty of foreign aid. They began with a decision created by a hugely biased commission, and today they have taken that land and prospered. No one said we should kick the Jews out. We should simply get rid of the state of Israel and integrate Palestine into it, secularize the government and restitute former Palestinian farmland/property back to the Palestinians. If you look at what is happening now, the Israeli Zionists are doing just what the Romans, the Nazis and the Russian Cossacks had done to them many years ago. Did they not learn how painful it is to go into exile? People wonder why Hamas and the Resistance exist... It's a no-brainer! They too are trying to defend their land. At one point they WERE aligned with Arab states, but these days they receive minimal funding from a few rogue states. They have no one to rely on, they are blockaded and restricted. For fuck's sake, if you don't want to relinquish Israel, at least let them live their lives in the West Bank and Gaza! Deal with "terrorist" acts in a civil manner and use military precision, not military force. I really hope Ron Paul gets elected 2012, so he can cut off aid to Israel.

[StoppingTime]

Then if you are going with the "they ere here first, so they should be able to be in control of the land as well, then America, and many other nations should be given back to their original inhabitants.

And yes, let's squeeze Thousands of more Arabs in a place the size of New Jersey.

Why only pick on Israel because they Won the land? Are the the only ones who've ever done that before?

[antiabort]

I miss thatfatguy.

Why?

[kenoloor]

Why?

Cuz he gave me something to do on this damned site. Trolls are what keep VT fresh. He was king of them all.

[Genghis Khan]

Why only pick on Israel because they Won the land? Are the the only ones who've ever done that before?

This kind of public ethnic-cleansing of innocent people does not belong in this century. What happened hundreds of years ago in America is so long gone it's extremely unrealistic to advocate that non-native Americans leave. Israel on the other hand, is a fairly recent invention, as long as this ethnic cleansing goes on, I'll be 100% against it. It's inhumane and downright stupid. I mean, in a hypothetical situation if the Jews won the war and titled the land as 'Israel' yet refrained from throwing people out of their homes I'd be 100% for Israel.

[bleachedteen]

people should stop having their own kids and adopt kids more often

there should be better mental health treatment available

once a girl gets her first period she should be on birth control, and have to prove she can support a baby before she comes off of it

censorship should be gone, especially from the internet

[StoppingTime]

people should stop having their own kids and adopt kids more often

If people stopped having kids, there wouldn't be anyone to adopt...
And why do you want this? Why aren't people entitled to having kids?


there should be better mental health treatment available
This isn't that unpopular.


once a girl gets her first period she should be on birth control, and have to prove she can support a baby before she comes off of it

The overall goal makes sense, but I don't think this is right. You can't tell anyone how to live their lives, and you shouldn't make them do anything that could go against their religion or beliefs, or just how they want to live.

[Sugaree]

Class warfare does not exist. Income inequality is the phrase that should be used.

[Absolute]

The only thing I can stand on this is the fat stuff, you guys are being dicks, "unsightly" is a way of saying I'm not attracted to big girls, and that fat guys get in my way. You have the right to be as unhealthy as you want, and fat people do know how lucky they are (I used to be several kilos over the obese level, I'm at a healthy 120 now), that's like saying black people don't know how lucky they are we brought them over, so they don't have to live in shitty Africa, it all about the higher ups and what foods they make cheap.

[bleachedteen]

If people stopped having kids, there wouldn't be anyone to adopt...
And why do you want this? Why aren't people entitled to having kids?


This isn't that unpopular.



The overall goal makes sense, but I don't think this is right. You can't tell anyone how to live their lives, and you shouldn't make them do anything that could go against their religion or beliefs, or just how they want to live.


Obviously people still need to have their own kids but there are so many kids who need to be adopted that I think having your own kids while other kids need a family is stupid.

and the one about birth control I know it's giving a lot of power to the government I just get mad that so many people have kids when they don't have the maturity or the sources to care for them. and that leaves alot of kids in foster care or raises them in a way where their family doesn't have enough money to care that well for them which can also cause a lot of stress.

[StoppingTime]

Obviously people still need to have their own kids but there are so many kids who need to be adopted that I think having your own kids while other kids need a family is stupid.

People shouldn't be told whether they are allowed to have children or not. Not everyone wants to adopt children, it just isn't how they want to live, and they shouldn't be forced to.


and the one about birth control I know it's giving a lot of power to the government I just get mad that so many people have kids when they don't have the maturity or the sources to care for them. and that leaves alot of kids in foster care or raises them in a way where their family doesn't have enough money to care that well for them which can also cause a lot of stress.[/QUOTE]

This would make anti-abortion? (Which doesn't really make sense because taking birth control is similar)...

[Jess]

people should stop having their own kids and adopt kids more often

you have no right telling people they can't have kids

once a girl gets her first period she should be on birth control, and have to prove she can support a baby before she comes off of it

you have no right telling girls what to do. why should I - or any girl - be on birth control if we don't want it?

[Maxxie]

People should read books more often. Not mindless drivel, but meaningful literature or scientific/technical books. Or, hell, actually try to become a slight bit more educated for a change.

Theists should work together to create an argument that makes sense.

Barack Obama is not that bad of a president (I live in the South).

America is NOT an overall great nation culturally or morally.

Fuck the #Occupy movement.

I think Washington needs to get its shit fucking straight.

Rick Perry should not be allowed to exist.

[mrmooers]

People should read books more often. Not mindless drivel, but meaningful literature or scientific/technical books. Or, hell, actually try to become a slight bit more educated for a change.

Theists should work together to create an argument that makes sense.

Barack Obama is not that bad of a president (I live in the South).

America is NOT an overall great nation culturally or morally.

Fuck the #Occupy movement.

I think Washington needs to get its shit fucking straight.

Rick Perry should not be allowed to exist.

^agreed

[antiabort]

Why we deserve certain rights just because we are human?

[Jess]

China does :P

eh yeah well but one individual doesn't have the right...still...

[Sugaree]

People should read books more often. Not mindless drivel, but meaningful literature or scientific/technical books. Or, hell, actually try to become a slight bit more educated for a change.

Theists should work together to create an argument that makes sense.

Barack Obama is not that bad of a president (I live in the South).

America is NOT an overall great nation culturally or morally.

Fuck the #Occupy movement.

I think Washington needs to get its shit fucking straight.


Wow, this is what I was actually about to say (sans the Perry not existing part). Can I have children with you?

Unpopular opinion: This thread has run its course and needs to die.

[kenoloor]

Unpopular opinion: This thread has run its course and needs to die.

That's probably a popular opinion.

[Genghis Khan]

That's probably a popular opinion.

Unpopular Opinion: Sapphire_Flames.


^__^

[kenoloor]

Unpopular Opinion: Sapphire_Flames.


^__^

I'm a Hipster opinion.

[slappy]

i believe sex offenders should be shot on sight (after a trial)

[antiabort]

i believe sex offenders should be shot on sight (after a trial)

So if some guy fucks a girl thats only slightly younger than him but shes underage he should be shot? bullshit.

[Sugaree]

i believe sex offenders should be shot on sight (after a trial)

That's kinda fucked up bro.

[User Deleted]

Why we deserve certain rights just because we are human?

Oh, I like this one. I like this one a lot. I don't know a good solution due to our current phase in development, but I like how you think.

[slappy]

So if some guy fucks a girl thats only slightly younger than him but shes underage he should be shot? bullshit.

after a trial
like serious child molesters or rapists that kind of thing

[User Deleted]

after a trial
like serious child molesters or rapists that kind of thing

Then why a trial?

[slappy]

Then why a trial?

im saying that should be a penalty

[aperson444]

after a trial
like serious child molesters or rapists that kind of thing

That's not only unethical, but highly immoral and Fascist-esque. Back to square one.

Maybe they can opt for castration in exchange for reduced jail time and transfer to a psychiatric facility for the remainder of their sentence?

[kenoloor]

Maybe they can opt for castration

What the hell would that accomplish?

[Sugaree]

im saying that should be a penalty

So you're saying give them a trial, and even if they're found not guilty, you still shoot them? That's not how a system of justice works. If you're found to be guilty of crimes you've been accused of, you deserve punishment. If you're found to be not guilty, you don't get any punishment at all. What you're proposing is a shoot first, ask questions later policy. You don't establish justice that way.

Maybe they can opt for castration in exchange for reduced jail time and transfer to a psychiatric facility for the remainder of their sentence?

I actually agree with a transfer to a psychiatric facility. But why castration? When it comes to serial rapists or pedophiles or any sexual criminal, a psychiatric facility isn't a bad sentence. But what they do can't be considered bad. Admit it, we've all got pretty fucked up fetishes and whatnot. I would highly consider rape and molestation to be a fetish for some people. It does more harm than good though, so the immediate course of action should be to tell those who do have such urges to control themselves.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

People should read books more often. Not mindless drivel, but meaningful literature or scientific/technical books. Or, hell, actually try to become a slight bit more educated for a change.

Actually, even if you are only reading fiction it helps increase your vocabulary and make you more literate. If people were forced to read only educational books I am absolutely sure the literacy rate would go down.

Theists should work together to create an argument that makes sense.

If 2+2 does not = 5 than why would 2+2+2+2=10?

Barack Obama is not that bad of a president (I live in the South).

Not gonna argue about him being a bad president, but what does living in the south have to do with anything? I suppose it has something to with the south's bad past with African Americans? If that is what you're referring to that's almost as bad as me saying I hate Obama because he is black (THAT IS NOT WHY I DISLIKE HIM, it has nothing to do with his race. If you say it does, I'm sorry but you my friend are a moron)

America is NOT an overall great nation culturally or morally.

Agreed. I'm sure this has something to do with the large decline of teenagers accepting the same thing their parents believed.

Fuck the #Occupy movement.

IKR

I think Washington needs to get its shit fucking straight.

IKR, but could you be more specific?

Rick Perry should not be allowed to exist.

Why not?

[aperson444]

What the hell would that accomplish?
I actually agree with a transfer to a psychiatric facility. But why castration? When it comes to serial rapists or pedophiles or any sexual criminal, a psychiatric facility isn't a bad sentence. But what they do can't be considered bad. Admit it, we've all got pretty fucked up fetishes and whatnot. I would highly consider rape and molestation to be a fetish for some people. It does more harm than good though, so the immediate course of action should be to tell those who do have such urges to control themselves.

If they voluntarily allow for chemical castration in a psychiatric facility, then that might help some of their urges and dull sexual desire. It's not going to cure the issue, but if they really don't like what they've become, I think they deserve a chance to fix their problem through intense psychiatric help and chemical castration therapy. I'm not talking about chopping their balls off, I'm talking about a little pill they take everyday that counters the effects of androgenic hormones.

[User Deleted]

I'm not talking about chopping their balls off, I'm talking about a little pill they take everyday that counters the effects of androgenic hormones.

Why not both? If ya wanna fix a problem ya fix it at it's source.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

Well he is saying its okay if it is voluntary. I assume you either didn't catch that or are a female, because no man would ever voluntarily let you chop off their balls. Besides the pills, I assume, would do the exact same thing, no?

[User Deleted]

Well he is saying its okay if it is voluntary. I assume you either didn't catch that or are a female, because no man would ever voluntarily let you chop off their balls. Besides the pills, I assume, would do the exact same thing, no?

Well, the balls would still physically exist, and with testosterone therapy depending on the pill the testicles could theoretically be "revived"

As well as the option of sneaking not taking the pill as well. Either way there are flaws. Go for all or nothin and there is no chance of failure.

[Sugaree]

If they voluntarily allow for chemical castration in a psychiatric facility, then that might help some of their urges and dull sexual desire. It's not going to cure the issue, but if they really don't like what they've become, I think they deserve a chance to fix their problem through intense psychiatric help and chemical castration therapy. I'm not talking about chopping their balls off, I'm talking about a little pill they take everyday that counters the effects of androgenic hormones.

So reduce their sexual urges, which can be accomplished through the lessened production of hormones? Alright, that doesn't sound so bad. If it helps and they give full consent to it, I see no problem.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

Well, the balls would still physically exist, and with testosterone therapy depending on the pill the testicles could theoretically be "revived"

As well as the option of sneaking not taking the pill as well. Either way there are flaws. Go for all or nothin and there is no chance of failure.

Once again, we are assuming this is voluntary. If a person is voluntarily doing this they realize what they've done is wrong and they want to get better. I doubt they would try to hide the pills, that being said. I'm not sure if what you said in the first part of your post involves another treatment being administered or happening naturally. If you are talking about another treatment, like I said before the person most likely would not attempt it if he wanted to change.

[User Deleted]

Once again, we are assuming this is voluntary. If a person is voluntarily doing this they realize what they've done is wrong and they want to get better.

Yep, totally voluntary.

I doubt they would try to hide the pills

Not hide the pills? Easy way out of jail if you're willing to lie.

, that being said. I'm not sure if what you said in the first part of your post involves another treatment being administered or happening naturally. If you are talking about another treatment, like I said before the person most likely would not attempt it if he wanted to change.


And again, they could just want out of jail. If its all out it's guaranteed no loop hole, then you can be sure they really do resent their decision.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

Yep, totally voluntary.

Not hide the pills? Easy way out of jail if you're willing to lie.

And again, they could just want out of jail. If its all out it's guaranteed no loop hole, then you can be sure they really do resent their decision.

Hmmm good point. If there are going to be more people abusing it than actually using it like it was meant, there is no reason to even consider adding it to our legal system.

[User Deleted]

Hmmm good point. If there are going to be more people abusing it than actually using it like it was meant, there is no reason to even consider adding it to our legal system.

Yeah, you kind of have to think pessimistically and assume the worst. We shouldn't overlook things like that if we ant to add it because we don't need to add any more flaws in the legal system.

[aperson444]

When I was in the psychiatric hospital, they would check your mouth to make sure you take the pill -- they check VERY well. With most hormone pills, you can't puke 'em back up because they are very small (you need very small doses to get the desired effect). Pills can also be made to dissolve rapidly with a very bitter taste, so holding the pill in your mouth is er.... Very unpleasant. When I was on corticosteroids for bronchitis, these pills would literally ruin tastes because they were so bitter (and I'm very slow at swallowing pills).

Hmmm good point. If there are going to be more people abusing it than actually using it like it was meant, there is no reason to even consider adding it to our legal system.

If these people actually agree to chemical castration and prolonged mental health therapy, it's highly unlikely that they're doing it just to get out. Maybe if they have a sore bum from all those long prison nights they might be convinced to go for the alternative... But remember, we're keeping them in treatment for the rest of their sentence, giving them doses of anti-androgenic hormones and probably psychiatric medication. Both of which are quite unpleasant, so if they actually agree to all of that, then they either really hate jail or really want to get better.

Well, the balls would still physically exist, and with testosterone therapy depending on the pill the testicles could theoretically be "revived"

As well as the option of sneaking not taking the pill as well. Either way there are flaws. Go for all or nothin and there is no chance of failure.

It will eventually be revived. That's why they need to serve their entire sentence. This will only allow them to transfer to a psychiatric facility and undergo supervised psychiatric treatment compounded with anti-androgenic hormones. If they had normal testosterone production before, the medication will wear off. Perhaps a condition of parole would be visits by probation officers and mandatory blood tests to detect the medication in the blood. Skipping these tests and visits would be a parole violation, which is a crime. Obviously if the offender doesn't want all this treatment, they can choose to remain in jail.

In addition, these medications have some withdrawal effects. Stopping the therapy can actually be dangerous to the patient. That means that they have to keep taking the medication until their psychiatrist thinks they are ready to get off of it -- and the medication would last for a period AFTER their release (otherwise it's pretty redundant). Obviously this therapy isn't perfect, but sex offenders deserve a chance to fix things too.

[antiabort]

my unpopular opinions:

1.Anyone with an IQ below 90 should be sterilized.

2.All immigration should end.

3.Slutty women should have their tubes tied.

4.In order to use the internet, your IQ should be 100 or higher.

5.All drugs should be legal

6.All censorship in america should be abolished.

7.School bullies should be expelled from the entire education system for life. No second chances, no exceptions.

8.Thugs in the ghetto have no exuse to be the way they are. It is nobody's fault but their own.

9.Wellfare should have a time limit.


My edgy meter is off the charts!

[OnlyByTheNight.]

My unpopular opinion... Really stupid people should not be allowed have kids.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

My unpopular opinion... Really stupid people should not be allowed have kids.

Hitler had a similar belief, only on a larger scale and in a different way. He believed his race was superior and decided that justified taking basic freedoms away from other races, killing some in the process. You would be doing the same thing by disallowing "Really stupid people" to mate. Don't worry though, according to evolution those "really stupid people" will eventually die off. Let nature take care of itself.

[Sugaree]

Unpopular opinion: The Occupy movement is now going to slowly die away

[PerpetualImperfexion]

Unpopular opinion: The Occupy movement is now going to slowly die away

I certainly hope so... They have the right to stand up for what they believe in, but they took it too far. How many people died as a result of these movements? I heard of this guy who thought it a good idea to let an electric furnace heat his tent, died of carbonminoxide poisoning. For that reason I use that guy as a model for all the other protesters.

[Sugaree]

I certainly hope so... They have the right to stand up for what they believe in, but they took it too far. How many people died as a result of these movements? I heard of this guy who thought it a good idea to let an electric furnace heat his tent, died of carbonminoxide poisoning. For that reason I use that guy as a model for all the other protesters.

Wait...you use ONE protester, and a dumb one at that, to serve as a model for all the other protesters? They're not all idiots like that one person apparently was (a source would be nice, just to make sure you're not, yknow, lying). Most of them are actually pretty good. The occupiers in Dayton, Ohio actually clean up their trash, use restrooms found in public buildings, and comply to orders given to them by the police force. They're very good people, and I've seen notable instances on news stations.

[trzxv515]

Nothing in this world is normal. Normal doesn't even have a clear definition. It is just used by the society to control what should people think or do. Therefore, everyone is weird! :D

[kenoloor]

Nothing in this world is normal. Normal doesn't even have a clear definition. It is just used by the society to control what should people think or do. Therefore, everyone is weird! :D

"Normal" is used to identify the average, or what's common between people. And by everyone being weird, that makes weird the new normal.

[Unique Physique]

George Orwell's 1984 is a widely quoted piece of literature yet most of the conspiracy theorist dimwits who quote it either haven't even read it (and are just copying and pasting the quotes from the internet) or at least deeply misunderstand the point the author is trying to get across. Nobody in the West is in some sort of Orwellian Big Brother police state. Please get real.

Elvis Presley and The Beatles, IMO, are overrated. Maybe if I was growing up in the 1950s and 1960s I would appreciate them, but I really do not see the big deal about them except for one or two songs. Yes, they were talented, but they're not the best thing since sliced bread.

[Natural all over]

Legalize incest

[StoppingTime]

Legalize incest

Guys, the new thatfatguy has been found.


Do you know how immoral this is?
Not just the fact that it's disgusting, but causes defects and mutations if she gets pregnant.

[Wesley1369]

END illegal immigration completely. close the border, if you wanna join this Country do it by the letter of the law

[embers]

Guys, the new thatfatguy has been found.


Do you know how immoral this is?
Not just the fact that it's disgusting, but causes defects and mutations if she gets pregnant.

It's not actually a child born through incest that has a high risk of being genetically deformed - that happens through generations of inbreeding. It's actually much less of an issue than people make it out to be.

[StoppingTime]

It's not actually a child born through incest that has a high risk of being genetically deformed - that happens through generations of inbreeding. It's actually much less of an issue than people make it out to be.

But if it was legalized, that would begin to happen more and more, (though I'm not sure how many could really have this opinion)

[antiabort]

Wait, incest is illegal? I thought it just had a social stigma attached to it... What's the penalty?

[StoppingTime]

Wait, incest is illegal? I thought it just had a social stigma attached to it... What's the penalty?

*please be a joke please be a joke*

[antiabort]

*please be a joke please be a joke*

No seriously, i had no idea. I'm not into incest, but why should we be allowed to tell people what they can do in their bedroom? It's like restricting gay marriage.

[StoppingTime]

No seriously, i had no idea. I'm not into incest, but why should we be allowed to tell people what they can do in their bedroom? It's like restricting gay marriage.

It's nothing like restricting gay marriage. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest#Types)

[antiabort]

It's nothing like restricting gay marriage. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incest#Types)

If nobody is getting hurt, what's the problem?

[StoppingTime]

It can cause birth defects over time.

[antiabort]

Alcohol and I believe smoking can cause your baby to be fucked up in 1 generation. But both of those are ok, right?

[Jupiter]

hot sauce should take the place of cum.

[antiabort]

hot sauce should take the place of cum.

Oh shit I lol'd, thanks.

[User Deleted]

hot sauce should take the place of cum.

Is this vice versa as well?

[Jupiter]

Is this vice versa as well?

and how.

[Sugaree]

END illegal immigration completely. close the border, if you wanna join this Country do it by the letter of the law

I agree with you here, but how exactly do you end illegal immigration? It's easy enough to fake an ID, passport, etc. to get into the country. Almost too easy in many cases (see human trafficking).

[Unique Physique]

The problem with incest is that it fucks up family relationships and are often in abusive circumstances. Not to mention the damage it can potentially do, genetically. And.. it's just plain.. wrong.. social stigma, I know.

I tell you what if two "consenting adults" that are brother and sister want to screw eachother, then please do not make it public knowledge.

END illegal immigration completely. close the border, if you wanna join this Country do it by the letter of the law
That's not an unpopular opinion, on the contrary, it's a really popular opinion.

I can see where you (and they) are coming from, because illegal immigration does cause problems with crime and national security as well as diseases etc, but it's to my understanding that pretty much all illegal immigrants in Western countries are illegal because they don't qualify to emigrate legally. It's not just a case of filling in a few forms and being let in, you often have to be a qualified physician or at least have a skill that in demand + a job offer or some kind of special circumstance (refugee etc) so if you're some unskilled worker with a family in a third world country, you're pretty much fucked.

[ImCoolBeans]

I agree with you here, but how exactly do you end illegal immigration? It's easy enough to fake an ID, passport, etc. to get into the country. Almost too easy in many cases (see human trafficking).

Not only that, but do you know how difficult it will be to -totally- close off the border? Thats a big fucking border.
But yes, I do agree that it needs to end.

[Gaybaby94]

A majority of Congress should be impeached.

[aperson444]

Not only that, but do you know how difficult it will be to -totally- close off the border? Thats a big fucking border.
But yes, I do agree that it needs to end.


They should make it easier to apply for legal citizenship or work visas. I think immigration to the US costs like a couple thousand on top of the cost to find a place to live.

[Amnesiac]

They should make it easier to apply for legal citizenship or work visas. I think immigration to the US costs like a couple thousand on top of the cost to find a place to live.

Coming from a family that has gone through the full legal process to obtain a green card, I can confirm that coming to the United States through the proper government channels is an extremely long and arduous process. If you have a visa, it must be renewed every two years – and the only way to do that is to travel out of the country and find a U.S. Consulate or Embassy. Obtaining a green card took my family a couple of years and thousands of dollars in fees, not including the cost of hiring an immigration attorney to persuade the USICS to give us one.

Illegal immigration is rampant because of the red tape that has consumed the process of legal immigration. Ultimately, immigration is not just good for the economy, but absolutely essential. The United States would probably not be able to function without a steady supply of qualified workers from outside the country. Our border problems can be fixed by cooperating with the Mexican government and establishing a streamlined system that educates those who are considering immigration, and makes it easier for individuals whose skills are in demand to get in. The government also needs to crack down on corporations and other entities that abuse the immigration system to bring in cheap labor. Combined with a reasonable level of border security (no, building a fucking wall is not "reasonable") and an end to the Drug War, the immigration system could be turned into something that mutually benefits immigrants and businesses.

[dead]

The problem with incest is that it fucks up family relationships and are often in abusive circumstances. Not to mention the damage it can potentially do, genetically. And.. it's just plain.. wrong.. social stigma, I know.

I tell you what if two "consenting adults" that are brother and sister want to screw eachother, then please do not make it public knowledge.


That's not an unpopular opinion, on the contrary, it's a really popular opinion.

I can see where you (and they) are coming from, because illegal immigration does cause problems with crime and national security as well as diseases etc, but it's to my understanding that pretty much all illegal immigrants in Western countries are illegal because they don't qualify to emigrate legally. It's not just a case of filling in a few forms and being let in, you often have to be a qualified physician or at least have a skill that in demand + a job offer or some kind of special circumstance (refugee etc) so if you're some unskilled worker with a family in a third world country, you're pretty much fucked.

Not really, you're fucked regardless of having a skill(s).

[RoseyCadaver]

Shitting feels a lot better than an orgasm.

[Ambrosia]

Sadomasochism is awesome, and more people should be like that.

[Good Night]

A majority of Congress should be impeached.
That's a popular opinion.....

[Jupiter]

everyone younger than me should NOT have an iPhone.. or any smart phone for that matter.

[Korashk]

The only way to stop illegal immigration is to open the borders. Which is what the government should do. It would be better for everyone involved.

Except racists, but fuck them.

Even if they're allowed to get government benefits (Although, the "Illegals are taking advantage of the system" is mostly a myth) there's still a net positive that comes from increased economic activity.

[Gaybaby94]

The only way to stop illegal immigration is to open the borders. Which is what the government should do. It would be better for everyone involved.

Except racists, but fuck them.

Even if they're allowed to get government benefits (Although, the "Illegals are taking advantage of the system" is mostly a myth) there's still a net positive that comes from increased economic activity.

This

That's a popular opinion.....The point of the thread is UNPOPULAR opinions.

[kenoloor]

The point of the thread is UNPOPULAR opinions.

His point was that you didn't post an UNpopular opinion.

[Gaybaby94]

His point was that you didn't post an UNpopular opinion.

Am I being too liberal for you guys?

[dead]

Am I being too liberal for you guys?

It's not liberal, only 11% are on the side of congress.

[kenoloor]

Am I being too liberal for you guys?

Nah, it's nice to have an extremist liberal troll around instead of the cliche extremist conservative troll.
You still completely missed both my point, and the one I quoted earlier.