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DestroyTheFuture
April 23rd, 2007, 08:02 PM
many people accuse MySpace as a responsible source for rape cases.

for instance, when 13 year old children meet men/women on MySpace, then the children meet the adult at a certain place, and finally, the child is kidnapped and raped.

MyViews
children receive 60% of the blame/punishment
adults receive 40%
childrens parents receive a flewible percentage due to their involvement with their childs security.
MySpace is not blamed at all.


MyReasons
these children are stupid enough to meet an adult that they met online, and then they are stupid enough to go back to their home and then coincidentally get raped. MySpace should not be blamed for any of this because MySpace is not a dating site, and is not intended to be one. Yes, Myspace IS a site to meet new and cool friends, but common sense overrides the literal meaning of that term.

it pisses me off when parents try to sue MySpace because their children get raped. maybe if their children weren't nappy headed hoes, and the parents were actually responsible to talk to their children's' friends' parents, and get to know them before their child hangs out with their "new" friend.

the problem: Katie tells her mom that she's going over to best friend Susie's house. so, KMom has no problem with this because its so normal. Then Katie actually goes and meets her adult friend, gets kidnapped, and then raped.

'tis still the child's fault for lying, and then putting herself in a dangerous position. but wait, she didn't know any better! then it's the parents fault...NOT MySpaces.

Bobby
April 23rd, 2007, 08:04 PM
I agree. That's why they educate us about this in school. I am a myspace member, and I haven't been kidnapped or raped, it's actually a great site.

DestroyTheFuture
April 23rd, 2007, 08:05 PM
MyViews
children receive 60% of the blame/punishment
adults receive 40%
childrens parents receive a FLEWIBLE percentage due to their involvement with their childs security.
MySpace is not blamed at all.

the word FLEWIBLE is supposed to be FLEXIBLE.

for some reason, i am not able to Edit my posts, so this was my only resort.

MoveAlong
April 23rd, 2007, 08:28 PM
The last word, 'MySpaces', is possessive. Bastard, fix it!

Just pullin your leg :P

MySpace is at no fault here. Members are reported and banned every day. I think parents should educate their kids, parents should be more responsible and kids should be self-aware.

0=
April 23rd, 2007, 09:16 PM
Simply hit go advanced if the quick edit does not work.

Makod
April 23rd, 2007, 10:41 PM
There is no way for a kid to even have the internet without the consent of his or her parents/guardians.

On a side note: MySpace phails (with a ph, that's right).

DestroyTheFuture
April 23rd, 2007, 10:58 PM
is there anyone that disagrees with the fact that MySpace isn't responsible?

does anyone think that MySpace is responsible for these crimes?


please share your thoughts, because its always good to have diversity.

cheeseman the III
April 24th, 2007, 12:01 AM
im sorry but i think that there isnt any diversity on this subject, everyone agrees with it, and im sorry, but did you have to put that "nappy headed hoes" comment in there? im not black or nothin, jus id think from all that crap with imus.... oh well, your thread
but ya, myspace aint a bad site, youve used almos exactly what ive told so many people, i think you might be in my head...

Sage
April 24th, 2007, 12:35 AM
everyone agrees with it,

UMMM. EXCUSE ME.

Before I present my counter-argument, let me refresh everyone on the rules of a debate.

"One does not need to prove himself right, he must simply prove the other wrong, therefor making him right."

Settled? Good. Now..

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MySpace is not responsible, you say? Well, if you think about it, what would the situation be like had the child never visited MySpace; hell, if MySpace was never created?

Now, what of MySpace of exactly? Let's look at their slogan first. "A place for friends". What does a naive child think of this? In a way it makes them feel safe and secure, as though there couldn't possibly be predators on the site. Wrong.

What about the security of the site anyways? Theres hardly a security system, the website doesn't have a way to verify the age of its users other than "select age" really. I haven't been there in ages, but like many social networking sites, if the minimum age on the drop-down menu is 17, people younger than that dont think "Hmm maybe I shouldn't, I'm not 17", they just think, "Ok, then, I'm 17."

Of course I've tried to send letters of concern to the heads of MySpace, but after 10 months unsanswered I've stopped checking my mailbox. Why not only allow people with ID's on MySpace, people they can actually run background checks on? It'd do wonders for the site.

Oh, and are we not all familiar of the Friend Factor in myspace, as I call it? Pretty much, you're supposed to get as many friends as you can, despite how weak, frail, or hell, even nonexistent your relationship to these people is. Friends? What friends? They're damned picture thumbnails; another body part shown each week! (Or, 'myspace poses') Because of this factor, people are desensitized to weak relationships, and any predator who makes use of this Myspace Friend Factor can easily convince the person that they are a 'friend' or even 'best friend'.

Then again, I still think "Wouldn't have happened if MySpace never existed, therefor it is responsible" sums up my case. Anyone else wanna go?

Maverick
April 24th, 2007, 06:35 AM
Wouldn't have happened if MySpace never existed, therefor it is responsible
I hate that argument. So you're saying that (for example) car companies should be held responsible if a drunk driver kills a teenager? According to your argument, if they had not produced the car then it wouldn't have happened.

It is impossible for myspace with it's millions of users to verify and check every single user BUT it is more logical and realistic for the child's parent to monitor what they do instead.

MySpace has pretty much done all they could to protect students with the changes they made. Parents need to stop pointing fingers at them and look at themselves. It's much easier to point fingers then take personal responsibility.

Hyper
April 24th, 2007, 06:44 AM
I hate that argument. So you're saying that (for example) car companies should be held responsible if a drunk driver kills a teenager? According to your argument, if they had not produced the car then it wouldn't have happened.

It is impossible for myspace with it's millions of users to verify and check every single user BUT it is more logical and realistic for the child's parent to monitor what they do instead.

MySpace has pretty much done all they could to protect students with the changes they made. Parents need to stop pointing fingers at them and look at themselves. It's much easier to point fingers then take personal responsibility.


Yes indeed

And for the car arguement we could always say, it would've never happened if human's didn't exist!

Hey we can use that arguement for anything related to humans :D

Sage
April 24th, 2007, 09:41 AM
I hate that argument. So you're saying that (for example) car companies should be held responsible if a drunk driver kills a teenager? According to your argument, if they had not produced the car then it wouldn't have happened.

I hope you take consideration that a car is a necesity for many people, MySpace isn't really needed by anyone.

Maverick
April 24th, 2007, 05:53 PM
Lol Hyper :D

I hope you take consideration that a car is a necesity for many people, MySpace isn't really needed by anyone.
That's your opinion.

Plus, a car isn't an necessity either. You've got two feet. Learn to walk.

Plus, what in the world does the necessity of something have to do with responsibility?

Are you saying we're supposed to deny ourselves some luxuries because bad things can happen? The item isn't the problem; it's the person.

I'm not religious but let's just say God created the world so it's his fault. Let's point the finger at Him. :P

GOD FORBID SOMEONE ACTUALLY TAKING SOME PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ONCE!

MoveAlong
April 24th, 2007, 08:54 PM
I hate that argument. So you're saying that (for example) car companies should be held responsible if a drunk driver kills a teenager? According to your argument, if they had not produced the car then it wouldn't have happened.

It is impossible for myspace with it's millions of users to verify and check every single user BUT it is more logical and realistic for the child's parent to monitor what they do instead.

MySpace has pretty much done all they could to protect students with the changes they made. Parents need to stop pointing fingers at them and look at themselves. It's much easier to point fingers then take personal responsibility.

I agree with Ant

Let's point the finger at Him.
For a minute there I thought this said "Let's finger god!"

DestroyTheFuture
April 24th, 2007, 10:28 PM
UMMM. EXCUSE ME.

you're excused.


Before I present my counter-argument, let me refresh everyone on the rules of a debate.

"One does not need to prove himself right, he must simply prove the other wrong, therefor making him right."

Wrong. just because another person is wrong, doesn't make you right, even if you have a counteracting position. maybe you were just joking when you said that, so ill leave it alone...

MySpace is not responsible, you say? Well, if you think about it, what would the situation be like had the child never visited MySpace; hell, if MySpace was never created?

yeah, i guess you have a point...if you were never created, then i wouldn't have to completely embarrass you in front of all of these people, and i wouldn't have to make you look like an idiot to yourself as well.

What about the security of the site anyways? Theres hardly a security system, the website doesn't have a way to verify the age of its users other than "select age" really. I haven't been there in ages, but like many social networking sites, if the minimum age on the drop-down menu is 17, people younger than that dont think "Hmm maybe I shouldn't, I'm not 17", they just think, "Ok, then, I'm 17."

this was my favorite thing that you said.

THE FUCKING CHILDREN RISKED THEIR OWN SAFETY BY PRETENDING TO BE 17. THEY INTENTIONALLY REGISTERED AS A 17 YEAR OLD, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE LOWEST AGE TO REGISTER AT!

the kid obviously knew that they weren't 17, and whether or not they knew that it would affect their safety, they still did it and they are responsible. they were not meant to be on the site, because they were younger than 17, but they took the risk on a conscious decision, and bad things happened as the result.

i shouldn't even have to say anything else, because i just defeated your argument..but, i will just to show everyone else how foolish that i think your opinion is.

Oh, and are we not all familiar of the Friend Factor in myspace, as I call it? Pretty much, you're supposed to get as many friends as you can, despite how weak, frail, or hell, even nonexistent your relationship to these people is. Friends? What friends? They're damned picture thumbnails; another body part shown each week! (Or, 'myspace poses') Because of this factor, people are desensitized to weak relationships, and any predator who makes use of this Myspace Friend Factor can easily convince the person that they are a 'friend' or even 'best friend'.

i slightly agree with that. i myself am a MySpace user, and i can tell yo, that i have over 2000 friends (for the record, i dont accept people, they request me and i accept because i give them a chance) and i will admit that i do not know all of these people. the point is, is that they may turn out to be interesting, and so i give them a chance. if they turn out to be creepy, then i delete them.

yes, MySpace does have a delete friend option, i think you forgot to mention that.

Anyone else wanna go?

yeah, i went bitch. i bought it, brought it home, set it on the table, and opened it bitch.

lol South Park^^

Sage
April 24th, 2007, 10:54 PM
Alright then, that was fun. You win. : P

PieTastic
April 27th, 2007, 02:17 PM
I think it's easy to be safe on myspace. You can put your profile to private, and easily just add poeple you know. You can then ignore any messages you get from people you don't.

Parents should teach their children how to be safe on the internet, and not let them go on if they don't know what they're doing.

So I really don't think myspace can be blamed. If kids are going to talk to strangers and meet up with them alone, the website can't do anything to stop it.

Bobby
April 27th, 2007, 03:00 PM
Oh my god, myspace is evil!!! The media perceives it that way. It's the weirdos on myspace that are the problem, and the parents who let their kids meet people they've never met, but met on myspace.

Gumleaf
April 27th, 2007, 07:44 PM
I think it's easy to be safe on myspace. You can put your profile to private, and easily just add poeple you know. You can then ignore any messages you get from people you don't.

Parents should teach their children how to be safe on the internet, and not let them go on if they don't know what they're doing.

So I really don't think myspace can be blamed. If kids are going to talk to strangers and meet up with them alone, the website can't do anything to stop it.


i agree totally. good point!!!

Octo22
April 27th, 2007, 11:12 PM
You're more likely to get raped going outside, than sitting inside on myspace forever.

Therefore, we need to stop blaming myspace.
And blame nature :]

Booman5
May 24th, 2007, 06:03 PM
I agree with the first post mostly, I feel that it is the childs responsibility to not hook up with anyone from Myspace, although The adult should obviously be charged as well. Myspace is fun for friends, just that friends nothing more.

Maxx 3 1/2
May 24th, 2007, 06:22 PM
i think that parents are retarded and let there kids do anything they want god u wana keep your kid? watch him/her? know right were they are at all times!!! if myspace is the blame then u gota say the internet is 1000 times more resonable!!! aol i/m yahoo i/m and what about buss stops!!!!!!!! lol societys to blame! burn it all!!!!! lol

A to the J
May 24th, 2007, 10:33 PM
People need to see that everything we make for good can be used for bad. Myspace makes millions of people happy and is intertaning too. but im sure it has led to bad things also. People are to blame not the servace or form of intertainment