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[cheetin]

these loadin times suck it takes me a munite to get from page to page fix it

[Aηdy]

See Alex, I'm not the only one!! I think its that stupid page fade thing!

[Hyper]

It's the damn spiders

[Aηdy]

I think its a combination of things, Spiders, add-ons, and posibley our server.

[0=]

It's the Yahoo! slurps. When there aren't any of em the pages load instantly.

[Aηdy]

They are stupid, there are usually 30+ of them. Google only has 5 at the most. Why so many?!

[redcar]

But if we remove the Yahoo! Slurps we dont have an up to date listing on Yahoo. Also if you look at the Slurps there is only 4 of them that have been active in the last 5 minutes.

[Maverick]

Maybe getting rid of the shoutbox will put less strain on the server.

Or making the online time expire in 15 minutes instead of 30 minutes like how it is now.

[Aηdy]

What online time?

[Whisper]

okay guys seriously "fix it" easier said than done
we've been having problems with this for along time
kiros is doing his best
he's done allot for the site

chill out


if we cut the online time back then if someones trying to make a post and it takes them over 15min aka its a long one then when they hit post it'll say there not logged in and there entire post they just wrote poof gone
no thanks

[Bobby]

I don't think we should get rid of the shoutbox, but the online time expiring earlier is a good idea.

EDIT: Cody is right.

[Whisper]

ya and the shoutbox is EXTREMLY popular
imagine how many members that would piss off

[Maverick]

if we cut the online time back then if someones trying to make a post and it takes them over 15min aka its a long one then when they hit post it'll say there not logged in and there entire post they just wrote poof gone
no thanks
Not if you click on "remember me" when you log in.

[Aηdy]

Not if you click on "remember me" when you log in.
Ah i thought it was strange why it never logged me out lol!

[Triple7]

Site loading times have not been a problem for me recently, but it was in the past. The slowdowns could be due to a number of things: your ISPs, time of day, who and what is visiting our site, and Dotservant's servers (including the load on other sites on the same server), on which we are graciously getting sponsored hosting.

Search engine spiders should be crawling the archived version of our site. The archives are more search engine friendly, as they are not fancy by any means, but for some reason (and what I'm seeing now) is that they like the actual version of our forums.

[Whisper]

not all memebrs have that clicked for security reasons
this site is supposed to be a secret
honestly ask yourself how many parents know that there kids come here and there username

if you don't click that and they find the site they atleast still do not have access to your account nor do they even know ur username

the remember me is supposed to be an option that members can choose if they want
not a requirment

[Hyper]

Heh the remember me won't realy stop anyone from getting you're password

In a way it's actually safer than typing out you're passwords all the time..

But yes Francis the spiders have been sucking the life out of the actual site for months now

[-Silence]

I'm one of those people that take forever to type a message, and the remember me isn't clicked because this isn't my computer, so yeah. Please don't change that. There's been a couple times that I'd type in a message and then hit submit and something happens and it doesn't appear, I get so frustrated! Then just say fuck it, and don't post it at all.

The loading time hasn't been that bad for me recently, I mean it was for a while, but right now, it's not.

Is there a way to only get a couple of the yahoo things here, instead of so many?

[Antares]

define spider please
i understand everything else except this term

[Kiros]

define spider please
i understand everything else except this term

A spider is a robot like program that "crawls" web pages. It's job is to read and index all the words on a page. Some more complex spiders index the page's Meta data and gives the page keywords based on everything that it finds. The spiders are what allow search engines (like Google and Yahoo!) to show so many results. Without search engine spiders, there would have to be a person that views one page at a time, marking keywords that stick out on that page, and then that person would have to type in all the keywords they found in a large database and have it "linked" in some way to that webpage - meaning when a user searches for keywords, the page may pop up in the search results.

I'm not sure if that makes much sense, but I tried to explain it :rolleyes:

Is there a way to only get a couple of the yahoo things here, instead of so many?

It's actually not so many. Yes, in the Currently Active section, Yahoo! spiders can take up a good bit of spots, but if you view the times that each spider was last active, you might see how Yahoo! wants their spiders to operate.

From what I've analyzed, Yahoo! has many, many spiders - all with different IP addresses. Instead of using one or two spiders to browse the entire website, Yahoo! uses one spider to track one page, and after all the index is done, the spider calls another spider to go to a link that it's found, and then that spider leaves to go to another site.

So most of the time, there have only been 3-5 Yahoo! spiders active within the past 5 minutes and only 1 active within the past 2 minutes. Google keeps it around that time too (1-2 minutes).

That's just what I've noticed anyway.

The site's load times may be coming from the shared host's server load, which would mean that other websites on the same host would be experiencing the same slowness. In that case, we really cannot help it. Though it might be something to do with vBulletin. We could test this by disabling some features, but like it hences, users would lose convenient functionality and statistics.

Personally, I have not been having a problem with the load times, but it could be that I'm never on when it's really bad.

[cheetin]

dam just take off the page fader ever since that started the loadin times had slowed way down or do sumthin to speed it up
i left vt because of it and i just came back to see if u guys have fixed it yet

[Bobby]

Maybe if you were nice about it, that would help.

[Aηdy]

It changes a lot for me, like 20 minutes ago i was waiting 3 minutes+ for pages to load, now its about 30 seconds, it's still not quick by any standards, but it never used to be this slow before the mods were put on.

[Elscire]

not all memebrs have that clicked for security reasons
this site is supposed to be a secret
honestly ask yourself how many parents know that there kids come here and there username

if you don't click that and they find the site they atleast still do not have access to your account nor do they even know ur username

the remember me is supposed to be an option that members can choose if they want
not a requirment
my identity is all over yahoo and google if you search my username.......

[Kiros]

dam just take off the page fader ever since that started the loadin times had slowed way down or do sumthin to speed it up
i left vt because of it and i just came back to see if u guys have fixed it yet

Alrighty... You want it off, I'll take it off. I can promise you it has nothing to do with network speed because it just uses a render effect to unload the current page.

But if you think it will help, consider it that hack reverted.

Andy, I'm pretty sure we've always had people complain about the load times, but if you want to see if it's the mods, then we can disable the plugin/product feature and let it run for a few days without most of the mods.

[Underage_Thinker]

is it a bandwidth issue or a cpu/server issue? somebody could check the server status when it is being slow and see which one it is. because disabling mods most likely won't help with bandwidth but they may take up extra cpu cycles.

[Kiros]

The fade does not effect the server. All the server has to do is send about 40 more bytes of data (which is just the meta tags - normal HTML). After that, the browser reads that meta data and if the browser is IE, then it will understand it to make it fade in and out. Once it understands it, all it has to do is make the effect, which is all client-side.

It doesn't put anymore strain on the server. Having that in each headerinclude template is much less of an impact than even posting 1 character in a post or viewing your UserCP.

[Bobby]

Kiros whats mods would you be removing?

[Aηdy]

Its funny, because now the pages are loading almost instantly!

[Underage_Thinker]

ya for me it never takes longer than 5 seconds to load a page even at the worst times. I think that it is probably just shear number of people that makes it slow.

[Aηdy]

Well i was here several hours ago and there were 2 members and about 14 guests online... very slow then.. now theres like 10 members and loads of guests, and it's still pretty quick. I don't get it lol.

[cheetin]

Alrighty... You want it off, I'll take it off. I can promise you it has nothing to do with network speed because it just uses a render effect to unload the current page.

But if you think it will help, consider it that hack reverted.



still not the greatest but workin way better now that fader is gone anybody els think so

try removein the chat room it might speed things up abit..............il make a poll weather the chatroom is useless to see wat other people think.

PS: wat changes have u mods made in the past 2 months

[Whisper]

absolutly not!
If its beyond your ability to wait a few seconds then leave
theres the door
-points-

[Maverick]

Sulack why don't you get a job and buy VT a dedicated server?

[Bobby]

Yes please. And I don't think the chatroom is going anywhere anytime soon.

[cheetin]

ok ok calm down u guys