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Jupiter
October 24th, 2011, 04:19 PM
State it, and debate it.
Marijuana shouldn't be banned.

Korashk
October 24th, 2011, 04:48 PM
There are way too many to list just one.

SosbanFach
October 24th, 2011, 04:51 PM
It ought to be legal to eat a mince pie on Christmas day in the UK.

Nah, why spoil the thrill of publicly breaking the law each year :P

Yeah, thrilling...

I'm sorry, I seem to be having a conversation with myself again, best stop now methinks.

aperson444
October 24th, 2011, 07:06 PM
Legalize marijuana and psychedelics, lift gun control laws (but increase background checks), don't take weapons from medical marijuana users. There's a lot of frivolous laws.

Jess
October 24th, 2011, 07:24 PM
the only one I can think of that shouldn't be a law is the ban on marijuana. I think it should not be banned as well...

acurasrock
October 24th, 2011, 07:44 PM
I think they should take away Laws about talking on your cellphone and texting while driving, Yeah, it's not good to do either of them, but it shouldn't be against the law, I think it's a ploy to make money off of people, and it's stupid! I still do it anyway.

embers
October 24th, 2011, 07:47 PM
That unwritten one that says Pakistanis are evil cunts

trooneh
October 24th, 2011, 08:12 PM
DOMA should not exist in the United States. It denies gays federal recognition of marriage in Section 3.

aperson444
October 24th, 2011, 11:05 PM
Texting/calling while driving is trivial and I think there should be fines and penalties for it. A lot of people die from those kinds of accidents. I don't think you should be able to go to jail for it though.

Church
October 24th, 2011, 11:06 PM
Marijuana sell, growing, possession, etc should not be illegal

PureReality
October 24th, 2011, 11:34 PM
DOMA should not exist in the United States. It denies gays federal recognition of marriage in Section 3.

Amen.

Marijuana should be legal.
Texting and driving should remain illegal, of course.

Amaryllis
October 25th, 2011, 04:18 AM
If the it was unnecessary, it wouldn't be a law. (I kind of change my mind now)

EDIT: Let me rephrase that. Every law that is put in place has a reason. You may not agree with the reasons but they do exist. There are reasons as to why marijuana is illegal. It's addictive, there is no accepted real medical use for it, the distributors tend to be ignorant, unethical, incompetent and corrupt. Well, the reasons why it's illegal's also cause mexicans brought it over to america and they associated mexicans with it. There were like stories about how marijuana made mexicans rape white women. Which is complete bull. It's a dumb racist thing. People also tend to dumb marijuana with the "bad group of people"(junkies and whatnot)

Marijuana itself...?

Well, it doesn't really have any terribly terrible physical or psychological side effects. If cigarettes are legal, why shouldn't marijuana? Taxed, yeah. Illegal? Mmmm... Maybe not so much.

EDIT 2: After some research and thought... I think quite a number of them should be enacted, changed or repealed. Victimless crimes should definitely be abolished. Large prison sentences for the possession of drugs leads to nothing but more crime and overcrowded prison cells. Of course, if they were to end up chugging loads of cocaine and beating someone up, well, that's bad.

However, the law is made to prevent such crimes, not fix them when it's too late.

I think sexual conduct laws are schtupid. Wether you like it or not, kids have sex. I don't get the whole parents' consent shiz. Which one of you would ask your parents if you could have sex with someone? People will argue that they aren't mature enough to make the decisions themselves but how do you plan to stop them? Are you going to arrest a 10 year old for screwing a consenting 12 year old? The less closed-up and illegal all this shiz is and the more open you are about it, the more likely kids are going to be open about it.

Gambling laws are a bit schtupid as well, for obvious reasons.

Anyway, people like to do what they shouldn't.

SosbanFach
October 25th, 2011, 04:21 AM
If the it was unnecessary, it wouldn't be a law.

Not necessarily. I could list a decent number of unnecessary laws!

Solvez18
October 25th, 2011, 05:41 AM
marajiuana stays banned. enough said.

trooneh
October 25th, 2011, 07:15 AM
Texting/calling while driving is trivial and I think there should be fines and penalties for it. A lot of people die from those kinds of accidents. I don't think you should be able to go to jail for it though.

Where is it a jailable offense?

ShyGuyInChicago
October 25th, 2011, 03:11 PM
I think sexual conduct laws are schtupid. Wether you like it or not, kids have sex. I don't get the whole parents' consent shiz. Which one of you would ask your parents if you could have sex with someone? People will argue that they aren't mature enough to make the decisions themselves but how do you plan to stop them? Are you going to arrest a 10 year old for screwing a consenting 12 year old? The less closed-up and illegal all this shiz is and the more open you are about it, the more likely kids are going to be open about it.

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Age of consent laws are not just about being too young to have sex. They are also intended to protect minors from adults wanting to have sex with them. It makes more sense to make it illegal for adults to have sex with minors simply because if two minors are deemed incapable to consent to sex then in a way there can't be rape unless physical force or coercion is involved. Certain adults might want to have sex with teens because teens are curious about sex and easier to control than adults, not only that, but some teens may engage in sex with an adult because they may feel as though they should not say no to adults; plus some minors might not be able to make a good and informed decision about sex and fully understand what they are doing and the potential consequences and ramifications.

So all in all age of consent laws should not be used to stop minors from having sex with one another (unless there is a huge age difference like 17 and 12 year old); they should be used to stop adults from preying on minors.

Carlyle
October 25th, 2011, 03:50 PM
DOMA should not exist in the United States. It denies gays federal recognition of marriage in Section 3.

You been readin' my mind boy? Pretty much this..

trooneh
October 25th, 2011, 04:29 PM
There may be more states, but in Utah you can be incarcerated for up to 3 months if caught.

Ah weird, here in Massachusetts it's simply a fine if you're caught driving while texting. If you're under 18 you simply lose your license for I think 60 days.

Tobias
October 25th, 2011, 06:39 PM
im not sure if theres a law against this but public nudity :)

supadupahitz
October 28th, 2011, 08:06 PM
I think they should take away Laws about talking on your cellphone and texting while driving, Yeah, it's not good to do either of them, but it shouldn't be against the law, I think it's a ploy to make money off of people, and it's stupid! I still do it anyway.

Try riding a motorcycle on the street for a few months and get back to me on this one. I would bet the number of accidents caused by texting/talking while driving is getting close to the number that are alcohol related. If you want to break a law, break one that doesn't put other people's lives at risk. I've been riding on the street for a few months now, and it really opens your eyes. It's amazing how many times people do something stupid and dangerous around you, and you look and see they're texting or on the phone.

Texting/calling while driving is trivial and I think there should be fines and penalties for it. A lot of people die from those kinds of accidents. I don't think you should be able to go to jail for it though.

I'm ok with it being fines and penalties when there's no accident, but the minute it causes an accident, or is involved in one, then the same pentalities as drinking and driving should apply. Doing anything that takes your attention from the road and endangers others should be taken seriously. Remember, driving is a privelage not a right, and we SHARE the road.

marajiuana stays banned. enough said.

I'll agree once alcohol and cigarettes are banned as well. Until then, no.

There may be more states, but in Utah you can be incarcerated for up to 3 months if caught.

3 months in jail is much better than a lifetime regretting texting because you didn't see that kid in the street and ran them over. If you're gonna drive, drive. Pay attention to driving. Not texting, not calling, not eating, just driving. Do the other things when you get where you're going.

Please don't double (in this case, quadruple) post; instead edit your first post. I've merged both of your posts together. -Jon/Rafiki

kezyy
October 28th, 2011, 08:22 PM
Weed shouldn't be illegal

acurasrock
October 28th, 2011, 08:43 PM
I'm still going to talk on my phone (on speaker) and I'll continue to text while im driving, it's my car and If I feel the need to text while driving, then I WILL...And no Cops are gonna tell me otherwise!!! It was never an issue until recently, because people that cause accidents should know how to drive better!!!!

kezyy
October 29th, 2011, 06:37 AM
I'm still going to talk on my phone (on speaker) and I'll continue to text while im driving, it's my car and If I feel the need to text while driving, then I WILL...And no Cops are gonna tell me otherwise!!! It was never an issue until recently, because people that cause accidents should know how to drive better!!!!

I actually want to slap u.. I hope u do get caught.. and fined

Genghis Khan
October 29th, 2011, 07:01 AM
Public nudity. I still wouldn't go out naked because my penis is tiny and I'd lose confidence with women.

Donkey
October 29th, 2011, 07:35 AM
I think the best method of drug reform will be to decriminalise all drugs.

SosbanFach
October 29th, 2011, 08:29 AM
I think the best method of drug reform will be to decriminalise all drugs.

On this I would agree with Jon. Decriminalisation of drugs would mean that people would not only no longer be forced to go to illegal dealers for drugs (highly dangerous, as it is impossible to know what is mixed in with the drug, or even if you're buying what you think you are) but it would also be easier for them to get help, and they would feel freer to do so, without the risk of being branded a criminal. In my opinion, drug users are victims, not criminals. There are so many other reasons, but I'm lazy :P

Jupiter
October 29th, 2011, 10:31 AM
Yes. If drugs were legal, that would be such a bailout to the taxes. I mean, consider how many people wouldn't go to jail. We have to pay for their food, and housing, and etc. So why is this even a question?

aperson444
October 29th, 2011, 11:17 AM
Decriminalization still makes production and distribution illegal and the market remains untaxable. That means that there's still a very good environment for monopolies to form (i.e gangs and criminal organizations who traffic the substance). We need total decriminalization (i.e production, import and distribution are 100% not criminal) and increased focus on treatment facilities for those addicted to harder drugs. By making drugs cheaper, we also save a lot of addicts from harm. Remember, many people addicted to drugs only commit crimes (especially property crimes like burglary and the such) in order to get money for said drug. By making the drug cheaper (and even free in the case of inpatient treatment facilities), we mitigate this effect.

Haleyzmont
October 30th, 2011, 08:38 AM
There are way too many to list just one.

Lol i acctually dont know

kenoloor
October 31st, 2011, 01:06 PM
I would really like to tie an alligator to a fire hydrant in Missouri.

Sugaree
October 31st, 2011, 09:57 PM
ITT: decriminalizing weed is the only thing that matters to 99 percent of the posters in this thread

Seriously? Like the Patriot Act never crossed your minds.

AlmostHomeless
October 31st, 2011, 10:24 PM
To agree with most of the other people in this thread: DOMA. Stupidest stuff evar. I hope this Protect-IP stuff doesn't go through. That would be pretty bad.

Rawwwrr
November 1st, 2011, 02:45 PM
I think they should take away Laws about talking on your cellphone and texting while driving, Yeah, it's not good to do either of them, but it shouldn't be against the law, I think it's a ploy to make money off of people, and it's stupid! I still do it anyway.

You've given no reason as to why it should be removed, even though you (hopefully) realise that texting while driving results in a huge amount of accidents.

Jupiter
November 1st, 2011, 03:27 PM
Exactly. And, also. It isn't a country law in USA although a few states enforce it.

Sogeking
November 1st, 2011, 07:17 PM
I'm still going to talk on my phone (on speaker) and I'll continue to text while im driving, it's my car and If I feel the need to text while driving, then I WILL...And no Cops are gonna tell me otherwise!!! It was never an issue until recently, because people that cause accidents should know how to drive better!!!!

That law is in place to prevent accidents. And I don't care if you can multitask. And you're second sentence is a moot point. Texting (as an availability to everyone) was non existent 10 years ago.

Sugaree
November 1st, 2011, 07:34 PM
I think they should take away Laws about talking on your cellphone and texting while driving, Yeah, it's not good to do either of them, but it shouldn't be against the law, I think it's a ploy to make money off of people, and it's stupid! I still do it anyway.

16,000 people from 2001 to 2007 died while talking on their cell phone while driving (http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/09/23/us-cellphones-driving-idUSTRE68M53K20100923)
Texting while driving causes 6,000 deaths yearly (http://www.edgarsnyder.com/car-accident/cell-phone/statistics.html)

On top of the death statistics:

Slows your reaction time to that of a 70-year-old
Distracted driving often results in you unknowingly switching lanes 10% more than you should
Nearly 25% of all car accidents involve the use of a cellphone
According to the Human Factors and Ergonomics Society, drivers talking on cell phones are 18 percent slower to react to brake lights. They also take 17 percent longer to regain the speed they lost when they braked.
In 2007, driver distractions, such as using a cell phone or text messaging, contributed to nearly 1,000 crashes involving 16- and 17-year-old drivers.


Need I go on? I don't care how well you can multitask, but when it comes to driving, lives are always at stake. Don't take the time to answer a text, because it isn't worth getting your car wrecked or to be killed. Did you know that it takes five seconds maximum to answer a text? In five seconds while driving, you can go the length of an entire football field. So is it really worth it?

AllThatYouDreamed
November 3rd, 2011, 05:18 PM
most victimless crimes. [TEXTING&DRIVING IS NOT VICTIMLESS]

The implicit law that says female sex offenders are somehow less dangerous and therefor don't deserve as much jailtime as a male one with the same crime

Ambrosia
November 3rd, 2011, 05:31 PM
In Texas (Or maybe its just my County) there is a law stating that you have to have a place for customers to tie their horses up in front of stores...That law is outdated! Lol It should be disposed of. :P

Jupiter
November 3rd, 2011, 05:52 PM
Here is my list so far...

Gay marriage ban lifted.
Marijuana legalized.
Copyright to music shouldn't be a law.

thatfatguy
November 3rd, 2011, 08:33 PM
holocaust denial laws and hate speech laws should be abolished.

Perseus
November 3rd, 2011, 08:38 PM
Copyright to music shouldn't be a law.

No, no, no. Copyright should be a thing. People would still your ideas and cash in on it.

kenoloor
November 3rd, 2011, 09:17 PM
holocaust denial laws and hate speech laws should be abolished.

errr......yeah. Great idea. Cuz, y'know, the Holocaust is actually a joke. Never actually happened.

thatfatguy
November 3rd, 2011, 09:20 PM
lolwut.

Both of those things restrict free speech. It's basically saying "yea, you can say whatever you want here in America! unless we disagree with you. Then it's off to prison with ya."

thatfatguy
November 3rd, 2011, 09:21 PM
Not saying that the holocaust didn't happen either. I just think you should be allowed to say what you want to say. Even if it pisses people off.

Rawwwrr
November 3rd, 2011, 09:23 PM
Not saying that the holocaust didn't happen either. I just think you should be allowed to say what you want to say. Even if it pisses people off.

I believe it's only illegal to deny it in Germany, which is very fair enough. With their history they need to take a very firm line against things like this.

AllThatYouDreamed
November 5th, 2011, 11:50 AM
I believe it's only illegal to deny it in Germany, which is very fair enough. With their history they need to take a very firm line against things like this.

Germany, I believe, also has a Nazi party and anyone who's a part of it is under heavy government watch b/c of the connotation...
But I don't think the US has laws about holocaust denial..

Eclipsical
November 5th, 2011, 12:26 PM
marijuana so we can stop hearing about how marijuana shouldnt be illegal!

Professional Russian
November 7th, 2011, 07:04 PM
illegal Moon shining and drinking under the age of 21 should be gone

Sugaree
November 7th, 2011, 07:14 PM
holocaust denial laws and hate speech laws should be abolished.

I agree with holocaust denial laws, since there's hardly any bone to them. If we have the right to free speech, we should have the right to deny that the holocaust happened. However, hate speech is specifically outlined in the constitution. In fact, the Gitlow v. New York case is a good example of this. You can also look at this article by Steven Pressman about libel law in the United States (which specifically state that all hate speech is unconstitutional in the United States, outside of obscenity, defamation, incitement to riot, and fighting words). Unfettered Press: Libel Law in the United States (http://usa.usembassy.de/etexts/media/unfetter/press08.htm)


Copyright to music shouldn't be a law.

If copyright to music shouldn't be a law, that means copyright to anything else (trademarks, movies, brand names, etc.), shouldn't be in place. Copyrights are there to protect both the artist and their intellectual property. They also last fifty years and are often resubmitted for copyrighting. That would make it legal to call the idea of another as your own, which is the equivalent of stealing.

AllThatYouDreamed
November 8th, 2011, 02:54 PM
Copyright to music shouldn't be a law.
Youre thinking of how strictly music copyright is enforced ("this audio has been claimed by x&x record company")
In which case I agree.

If you really think copyright in all forms shouldn't exist... Well. You come up with an original work only to have it stolen.

Swimmer93
November 8th, 2011, 03:05 PM
well there is no point in having a law if nobody enforces it, or obides by it. I rate that marjuana should be legal, but controlled - yet again this needs to be enforced.....

wowisawesome
November 12th, 2011, 12:14 AM
Weed and shrooms should be legal.

Good Night
November 13th, 2011, 04:27 PM
Repeal the Patriot Act. It violates the 4th Amendment.

kenoloor
November 14th, 2011, 12:47 AM
Repeal the Patriot Act. It violates the 4th Amendment.

Censorship violates the 1st Ammendment. So does the Pledge of Allegiance, and the national anthem is false.
Violations haven't stopped this fucking government in the past.
But yes, I agree. Repeal that bullshit.

Riley6606
November 14th, 2011, 12:50 AM
All laws...no government; everyone for themselves

kenoloor
November 14th, 2011, 12:52 AM
All laws...no government; everyone for themselves

lolwut

Riley6606
November 14th, 2011, 12:57 AM
lolwut

Yeah, like we should just be a free for all...that way I don't go to juvie for street art, fighting and other stupid shit that everyone does.