Best political leader of all time

[abdheuuuchjc]

Who do u think is the best leader of all time?
Adolph Hitler-although I think his ethic were wring he was a good leader he brought Germany from a third world country to a superpower in ten years
Gengis Khan-created the biggest empire(land) ever

[aperson444]

Vladimir Lenin - Formed one of the greatest nations in the world from a peasant-lord state. Stalin was the reason of most of the industrialization though.

Ho Chi Minh - Spearheaded a guerrilla campaign of ragtag peasants against a massive superpower.

[Korashk]

You should change the title from "Best" to "Most Effective". It's what you mean.

[Genghis Khan]

Cyrus the Great.

[Azunite]

Who do u think is the best leader of all time?
Adolph Hitler-although I think his ethic were wring he was a good leader he brought Germany from a third world country to a superpower in ten years
Gengis Khan-created the biggest empire(land) ever


Politics? Genghis Khan? He just killed everyone who opposed him.

Hitler? Yeah well thanks to him ( and he war he created ) the world advanced a lot in terms of technology, and he made this extreme military and economic expansion and Germany today would be nothing without it. Though he still ruled with an iron fist so this doesn't really make him the "best" leader. He was a pretty effective one, though.

Seriously, I wouldn't obey the commands of a man with a mustache like Hitler's.

Peter I the Great of Russia was a superb leader, however. Russia was a sleeping giant, and he simply woke it up. It was melting away under the modernized world, and Russia was still in her feudal shadow. Thanks to his reforms, Russia became a super power.

Castro? Maybe not the best, but he opposed a country 50 times bigger than Cuba, endured many threats ( the Cuban Missile Crisis, Bay of Pigs Invasion, and many assassination attempts ) and prevailed.

Alexander the Great? The greatest tactical genius of all time, no doubt and he made entire cities and states surrender him without killing a single man. But nevertheless, his empire lasted only 8 years.

Bonaparte? Could be, after all, modern republics were found after his doings, founder of code Napoleon, singlehandedly defeated the Brits, the Northern Fritzes ( Prussians ) the Southern Fritzes ( Austria ) and Ivans. If it wasn't for "General Winter ( referring to the killing cold weather of Russia, which was the main reason why he failed in his invasion )" he would have conquered Russia too. His people loved him, his people died for him without question.

We can easily make a "Top 10" list, but I don't think anyone can say "Best" of all time. After all, one achieved what the other one couldn't do.

[GummyBear]

To be honest... I think Gordon Brown was a great PM while he was in office in the UK- Fantastic Economic policy as Chancellor and PM... Maybe to soon to really evaluate how good of a PM he was. But the question Good poltical Leader... I have doubts to weather he was the best Leader.

Just thought Winston Churchill another great British PM which led us to victory in WW2. Great Leadership by him and also great tactian. Should always be admired.

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[Syntax]

Tokugawa Ieyasu perhaps?

[Azunite]

Tokugawa Ieyasu perhaps?


Thanks to Oda Nobunaga he had an empire. Until his untimely death in Honnon-Ji, Nobunaga conquered most of Japan and Ieyasu took over his clan. Other than that? He was Oda's side kick

[Sugaree]

Hitler had the right ideas, but presented them to the wrong people.

Think about it.

[abdheuuuchjc]

Agreed and he rallied uncertain people and was very charismatic even with his mustache

[StoppingTime]

Hitler had the right ideas, but presented them to the wrong people.

Think about it.

How did he have the right ideas? It what way do you mean this?

[abdheuuuchjc]

He knew how to run a country he just did it by making someone the common enemy

[Genghis Khan]

How did he have the right ideas? It what way do you mean this?

Right ideas in the sense of running an empire, improving an economy and what have you. Otherwise he was a morally bankrupt fascist.

[Syntax]

Thanks to Oda Nobunaga he had an empire. Until his untimely death in Honnon-Ji, Nobunaga conquered most of Japan and Ieyasu took over his clan. Other than that? He was Oda's side kick

Isn't it that Hideyoshi took over after Nobunaga committed suicide? Last time I checked it was Nobunaga to Hideyoshi, Hideyoshi to Ieyasu.

[HaydenM]

Hitler would have been the most efective leader of 'recent' times although he was an absolute nutjob.

[trooneh]

Alexander the Great. He created an empire while forcing his generals to marry nobility from the occupied lands simply to create a greater likelihood of peace.

[Donkey]

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Gotta be old Napoleon (the pig, that is)

[tHe_Jester1080]

Abraham Lincoln, he had the toughest job ever in preserving the Union.

[darkwoon]

Augustus. He put an end to 150 years of political unstability and deeply renewed the Roman Empire. Julius Caesar was a great politician and a great military genius, but Augustus was more diplomatically skilled, which allowed him to survive and complete the reforms his uncle couldn't finish.

Napoleon, IMO, was not the best by far. Granted, he deeply changed Europe by spreading the 1789 ideas around, and he definitely was one of the best military leaders there ever was. But it was never able to get past the idea of "France dominating others" and make true equal-partnership with other European countries. Ultimately, his Continental Blockade System failed, because it merely replaced one oppressive economical power (the UK) by another one (France).

As for Hitler... A wonderful speaker and mass-leader, granted. But a second-class politician, a poor economist and an awful military chief. Hitler can only blame himself for having lost WWII.

[Azunite]

Isn't it that Hideyoshi took over after Nobunaga committed suicide? Last time I checked it was Nobunaga to Hideyoshi, Hideyoshi to Ieyasu.

Nobunaga wanted Ieyasu to take over his empire. Hideyoshi indeed took the empire, but when his conquest of Korea failed, Ieyasu used this as an advantage, bribed half of Hideyoshi's generals and waged war against him.

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Gotta be old Napoleon (the pig, that is)

I still love that book

[kaiba]

Kofi Annan has preserved and brought more peace, prosperity and equality to the world than any other man alive in my opinion. He rose from humble beginnings and became de jure leader of the most wide ranging, important organisation the world has ever seen.
He helped defeat the corrupt, the tyrannous and the dastardly, gave not just food but sustainable growth to suffereing nations and helped the process of immunisation across the globe

[pineinchneis]

FDR revolutionised America for the better with projects like the Tennessee Valley Authority and the Social Security Act

[antiabort]

I'd say Adolf Hitler. He turned Germany from a poor shithole into a formidable military superpower. He was a wackjob though.

[Maxxie]

Hitler was an evil man. He gave the Germans something to hate, something to blame for their suffering, nothing more. Yes, he was a charismatic man, but being a leader means more than directing the masses.

[embers]

Hitler was an evil man. He gave the Germans something to hate, something to blame for their suffering, nothing more. Yes, he was a charismatic man, but being a leader means more than directing the masses.

Actually, he brought about a ton of economic success as well. He was by all means a good leader, not including the batshit insane side of him.

[Azunite]

Have you seen the documentaries about Hitler? He was a corporal when he started all this propaganda goddamit. He was an inspirational person.

In my opinion, if he stayed away from Jews and Gypsies, he would probably be in the top three

[benjones1769]

how old are you people!?! i have no clue about the details of most of these people or even most of the people you guys are talking about. Yea i know Hitler and Lenin....but to be able to critique their leadership abilities is left to people more educated. I'm sure there are teen geniuses in the world but I doubt they would spend their time on VT.

Makes me wonder if there are a bunch of old guys on here posing as teens.......something to think about

[Azunite]

how old are you people!?! i have no clue about the details of most of these people or even most of the people you guys are talking about. Yea i know Hitler and Lenin....but to be able to critique their leadership abilities is left to people more educated. I'm sure there are teen geniuses in the world but I doubt they would spend their time on VT.

Makes me wonder if there are a bunch of old guys on here posing as teens.......something to think about

Why, thank you, sir for the compliment.

But yeah well it seems you are one of those geniuses. Alright, you busted us. I am 28 years old, I studied political science in the university. I had only like 3 girlfriends or so and I spend my time browsing websites with girls. Then I found VT and I started acting like a 17 year old, but well it seems when it comes to debates I am a bit careless and I'm not able to speak like a regular 17 year old.

Haul me away, then.

[embers]

how old are you people!?! i have no clue about the details of most of these people or even most of the people you guys are talking about. Yea i know Hitler and Lenin....but to be able to critique their leadership abilities is left to people more educated. I'm sure there are teen geniuses in the world but I doubt they would spend their time on VT.

Makes me wonder if there are a bunch of old guys on here posing as teens.......something to think about

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