Psuedoscience

[Jupiter]

Pseudoscience is a belief there are very supernatural powers, like spiritual guidance that help you walk across hot burning coals. Another thing is ghosts, they are NOT scientifically proven. Aliens, psychics, and magicians are other things that go along with pseudoscience. I never really believed in anything besides religion, and even then, I have my doubts every once and a while. I do believe that Bill did believe he wouldn't be burned all that much, because he believed in science, and then claimed he didn't believe in anything. This is how I am doubting him on this. You can't believe everything you hear, because when I think about it, I really don't believe science is "scientifically proven." I know it sounds crazy, but bare with me here. Science may just be a study, and not something you can prove, because theories aren't science at all. They are guesses that can are somewhat connected to the subject. And so, I say to you, my good friends, I think I should have this put somewhere :)

[Perseus]

When it comes to things of "pseudoscience", I don't really have an opinion considering I haven't taken a look at facts for either side of the argument since it isn't really that important to me.

And your ignorance is greatly showing. A scientific theory is completely different than a regular theory. Scientific theories are based upon mountains of evidence, whereas a hypothesis is what you're thinking of since that is something to answer a question with next to no evidence.

[Jupiter]

I disagree. I believe that the Big Bang Theory doesn't make any sense. Please give me some believable evidence, then I will stand corrected.

[aperson444]

I disagree. I believe that the Big Bang Theory doesn't make any sense. Please give me some believable evidence, then I will stand corrected

There is a plethora of reasonable evidence for a big something theory. It might've been an implosion or an explosion, but in the end it was all the same. Some aberration caused a massive release of energy. The main theories supporting this are the mathematical theories that correlate the expansion of galaxies (Hubble's Law) and those that correlate the existence of cosmic background radiation with a sort of origin for all of this energy.

[Jupiter]

There is a plethora of reasonable evidence for a big something theory. It might've been an implosion or an explosion, but in the end it was all the same. Some aberration caused a massive release of energy. The main theories supporting this are the mathematical theories that correlate the expansion of galaxies (Hubble's Law) and those that correlate the existence of cosmic background radiation with a sort of origin for all of this energy.

If that is so, then how in the heck did that atom come from in the first place?

[Genghis Khan]

If that is so, then how in the heck did that atom come from in the first place?

No one really knows that for sure.

[Jupiter]

No one really knows that for sure.

Then how do you believe that?

[Dimitri]

When it comes to things of "pseudoscience", I don't really have an opinion considering I haven't taken a look at facts for either side of the argument since it isn't really that important to me.

And your ignorance is greatly showing. A scientific theory is completely different than a regular theory. Scientific theories are based upon mountains of evidence, whereas a hypothesis is what you're thinking of since that is something to answer a question with next to no evidence.

I disagree. I believe that the Big Bang Theory doesn't make any sense. Please give me some believable evidence, then I will stand corrected.


Definition for scientific theory:

Web definitions:a theory that explains scientific observations; "scientific theories must be falsifiable".the·o·ry/ˈTHēərē/


Definition for Theory:

Noun:

A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be...: "Darwin's theory of evolution"
A set of principles on which the practice of an activity is based: "a theory of education"; "music theory".
There is a difference my friend, hereby making your claim inadmissable....

in·ad·mis·si·ble/ˌinədˈmisəbəl/


Adjective:(esp. of evidence in court) Not allowable; not accepted as valid.
I am sorry, I will admit, I enjoy being an ass every now and then :irule:

[Jupiter]

Definition for scientific theory:

Web definitions:a theory that explains scientific observations; "scientific theories must be falsifiable".the·o·ry/ˈTHēərē/


Definition for Theory:

Noun:

A supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, esp. one based on general principles independent of the thing to be...: "Darwin's theory of evolution"
A set of principles on which the practice of an activity is based: "a theory of education"; "music theory".
There is a difference my friend, hereby making your claim inadmissable....

in·ad·mis·si·ble/ˌinədˈmisəbəl/


Adjective:(esp. of evidence in court) Not allowable; not accepted as valid.
I am sorry, I will admit, I enjoy being an ass every now and then :irule:
No offense but.. this makes no sense to me. what are you trying to prove?

[Genghis Khan]

Then how do you believe that?

I believe the Big Bang itself happened because it provides a clear cut scientific analysis on the expansion of the universe that is (as far as we know now) consistent with the laws of physics. By believing the Big Bang happened, I'm not claiming to know what was before the Big Bang, I'm just accepting the Big Bang itself as fact. It is the theory about the universe's origin that is given the most credibility by science, science is something I can rely on because it's always discovering new things, always ready to set aside falsified claims, gives immense importance to evidence and proof etc. etc. ad nauseum ad infinitum.


No offense but.. this makes no sense to me. what are you trying to prove?

He's pointing out your misunderstanding of the word theory in scientific terms. A scientific theory is pretty much fact. Gravity is a scientific theory. Theory in everyday usage like 'I have a theory' does not apply to the Big Bang or any other scientific phenomenon.

[Jupiter]

i just got schooled.

[Perseus]

i just got schooled.

Scientific theories can be disproved, though. Take the speed of light for example. It was accepted it was the fastest thing in the universe based on observation, then came along scientists observing that neutrinos are actually faster, thus nullifying the speed of light as the fastest. Nothing in science is 100%. Everything scientific theory and law can be disproven if something comes along and disproves it.

[Jupiter]

Scientific theories can be disproved, though. Take the speed of light for example. It was accepted it was the fastest thing in the universe based on observation, then came along scientists observing that neutrinos are actually faster, thus nullifying the speed of light as the fastest. Nothing in science is 100%. Everything scientific theory and law can be disproven if something comes along and disproves it.

I just wanna know if anyone understood my science is not scientifically correct tihnng. :)

[aperson444]

The atom is composed of sub-subatomic particles -- the basis of particle physics. Some physicists think it might've been the result of string interactions (string theory).

Science can be proven and disproven, but to do either and call it a "theory", you need substantial evidence.

[Jean Poutine]

Pseudoscience is a belief there are very supernatural powers

No, it's more than that.

Pseudoscience is a theory disguised as scientific reasoning. The scientific method has numerous requirements for a theory to be "scientific" (falsifiability, evidence, etc). A theory that fails one of these is pseudoscience. For example, alternative medicine can be considered such.

[AllThatYouDreamed]

Then how do you believe that?

How do you believe in gravity, we don't know why it works we just know it does.

[Amaryllis]

Then how do you believe that?

How do you believe in god?

EDIT: Anyway, I'm sure if evolution were true, there may be some "more evolved" human beings. If you believe in reincarnation, it is said they were amongst the first humans on Earth. If you believe in god, they are closer connected to him/her or they're his/her mediums. If you believe in magic, they're powerful magical beings. If you trust "science", then it's triggered by chemicals in your brain that give you that shot/vision/burst. If you think all that is bullshit, then those people are nuts.

Who knows. Why does anyone care, anyway? Humans spend so much of their lives seeking the reasons why, the truth, that they miss what is real and what is there.

[Jupiter]

How do you believe in god?

I believe him that he said he made us, is that what your little atom said ;)

[Perseus]

How do you believe in god?

EDIT: Anyway, I'm sure if evolution were true, there may be some "more evolved" human beings. If you believe in reincarnation, it is said they were amongst the first humans on Earth. If you believe in god, they are closer connected to him/her or they're his/her mediums. If you believe in magic, they're powerful magical beings. If you trust "science", then it's triggered by chemicals in your brain that give you that shot/vision/burst. If you think all that is bullshit, then those people are nuts.

Who knows. Why does anyone care, anyway? Humans spend so much of their lives seeking the reasons why, the truth, that they miss what is real and what is there.

I believe him that he said he made us, is that what your little atom said ;)
Can we for once not have a thread that is about religion? Seriously. I would like to see some discussion on pseudoscience. So OP, what is your take exactly? I'd like to hear about it.

[Jupiter]

Can we for once not have a thread that is about religion? Seriously. I would like to see some discussion on pseudoscience. So OP, what is your take exactly? I'd like to hear about it.

Well, I tried to make my views very clear in the first post. What do you wanna know?

[Perseus]

Well, I tried to make my views very clear in the first post. What do you wanna know?

I didn't see what you were saying in your OP. Something about some Bill dude? I did not know what you were going on about.

[Jupiter]

I'm sorry, I posted that for school, and posted it on here, cuz I thought it was good. A real science movie we watched, Bill walked across burning coals, believing in science. The guy before him told him he needed to believe in the God's, and that's how he will be fine.

[Korashk]

Pseudoscience is a belief there are very supernatural powers,
Not exactly, pseudoscience is any practice, product, principal, etc., that tries to pass itself off as being scientific while not conforming to scientific standards.

like spiritual guidance that help you walk across hot burning coals.
It's not so much spiritual guidance as it is physics. If you know what to do, walking across a bed of hot coals is simple and requires little to no previous experience doing it.

You can't believe everything you hear, because when I think about it, I really don't believe science is "scientifically proven."
Just one thing I don't think that anyone else in this topic has touched on is that proof need not be absolute to be proof. Just reasonable certainty counts as proof in the general sense.

I know it sounds crazy, but bare with me here. Science may just be a study, and not something you can prove, because theories aren't science at all.
Others have touched on this, so I won't.

[Genghis Khan]

Just one thing I don't think that anyone else in this topic has touched on is that proof need not be absolute to be proof. Just reasonable certainty counts as proof in the general sense.

Precisely this. You need to get this notion of absolute certainty out of your head, because technically speaking, you cannot be absolutely certain about anything... just to a degree where the probability of you being wrong is extremely low.

[HaydenM]

Pseudo, Comes from the greek word for false or fraudulent. It does not have anything to do with ghosts or aliens, and especially not evolution which has been proven through multiple controlled scientific experiments.

[Rawwwrr]

Pseudoscience is just fake science. That's what it means. It passes itself off as real when it actually isn't scientifically correct. You can't... agree with Pseudoscience. You can believe in certain theories which in the end turn out to be pseudoscience, but the moment you know its pseudoscience you know its incorrect.

[Unique Physique]

The OP doesn't really contain what is actually called pseudoscience. Pseudoscience is mocking term for convincing myths or unconfirmed theories which masquerade as genuine scientific theories, for example: "Starvation mode" which many people believe in, where your body apparently gains weight when you consume < 1200 calories per day when that very notion violates the first law of thermodynamics and goes against logic and common sense. Despite this, that rubbish is continuously talked about in fitness magazines and commonly believed.

As for supernatural phenomena, mystics and mind readers and all that lovely stuff, to be fair, they don't actually claim to be in any ways scientific. Same with religious faith. Hence the word, "faith", so this is all rather void...

[AllThatYouDreamed]

for example: "Starvation mode" which many people believe in, where your body apparently gains weight when you consume < 1200 calories per day when that very notion violates the first law of thermodynamics and goes against logic and common sense.
against, common sense, yes. Against thermodynamics, if we're being *that* black and white.

When the body isn't fed enough, it shuts down what it considers non-essential systems (reproductive and endocrine are usually the first to go) and converts as many calories as it can to fat. It's not that you gain weight, but that it's harder to loose weight as your body's using what it needs to run primary systems and storing the rest should it need it.

[Unique Physique]

against, common sense, yes. Against thermodynamics, if we're being *that* black and white.

When the body isn't fed enough, it shuts down what it considers non-essential systems (reproductive and endocrine are usually the first to go) and converts as many calories as it can to fat. It's not that you gain weight, but that it's harder to loose weight as your body's using what it needs to run primary systems and storing the rest should it need it.
Lol. No.
That's pseudoscience again.

The simple fact is that your body will lose weight if it's burning more calories than it's consuming, if your body suddenly experiences a large calorie deficit, it's true that your BMR will drop by about 10% temporarily in response (and adapt to changes in your weight as it would anyway), but even so, your body will continue to lose weight for as long as there is a big enough calorie deficit.

Your body doesn't just "convert calories to fat". Where did you read that? Your body will still use all the calories (energy) consumed from food/drink on running your body - so your heart, your central nervous system, lungs, etc. What actually forms fat is excess calories in your diet, so calories that you're not using on your bodily functions will end up being stored as fat. What you're suggesting is that the opposite happens... which doesn't make sense.

There are other factors which affect weight loss/weight gain, like your genes, certain medications, how much muscle your body has, and if you're a female - your menstrual cycle, etc. but there is still no "starvation mode" as such. If there is, then I'd genuinely love to see a peer-reviewed scientific journal on the matter.

[Magus]

Lol. No.
That's pseudoscience again. That's not pseudoscience, that's misinformation. Just the way they use to say that the tongue has a taste-bud map, where sweet taste is tasted in one area and bitter in another. That's misinformation, not pseudoscience.


Eating sweet pepper to boost your chi -- this is pseudoscience. It has no relevance to science, while it looks like a thing of science.

[Unique Physique]

Well, semantics aside, don't they really go hand in hand? (Mis)information, beliefs or practices which masquerade as true scientific theory, but lack scientific evidence.. thus making it not true science, but well.. pseudoscience? Lol.