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FuzzyLittleNightmare
October 9th, 2011, 02:27 PM
OK, so I couldn't seem to find anything on here about/for Synesthesia. And even though I wouldn't say it is a Mental Illness, I'm not really sure what other section it would fit in so I thought I would post it here. (If there is a thread on this already then Mods feel free to lock this one, just post a link to the other first!)

For people who don't know, Synesthesia is "a neurologically based condition in which stimulation of one sensory or cognitive pathway leads to automatic, involuntary experiences in a second sensory or cognitive pathway". In English, it basically means that your senses cross with one another. It can appear in many different ways in people. Some of the most common forms of Synesthesia are:


Grapheme → Colour Synesthesia
In one of the most common forms of synesthesia, grapheme → color synesthesia, individual letters of the alphabet and numbers (collectively referred to as graphemes), are "shaded" or "tinged" with a color. While different individuals usually do not report the same colors for all letters and numbers, studies with large numbers of synesthetes find some commonalities across letters (e.g., A is likely to be red).

As a child, Pat Duffy told her father, "I realized that to make an R all I had to do was first write a P and draw a line down from its loop. And I was so surprised that I could turn a yellow letter into an orange letter just by adding a line." Another grapheme synesthete says, "When I read, about five words around the exact one I'm reading are in color. It's also the only way I can spell. In elementary school I remember knowing how to spell the word 'priority' [with an "i" rather than an "e"] because ... an 'e' was out of place in that word because 'e's were yellow and didn't fit."


Sound → Colour Synesthesia

According to Richard Cytowic, sound → color synesthesia is "something like fireworks": voice, music, and assorted environmental sounds such as clattering dishes or dog barks trigger color and firework shapes that arise, move around, and then fade when the sound ends. For some, the stimulus type is limited (e.g., music only, or even just a specific musical key); for others, a wide variety of sounds triggers synesthesia.

Sound often changes the perceived hue, brightness, scintillation, and directional movement. Some individuals see music on a "screen" in front of their face. Deni Simon, for whom music produces waving lines "like oscilloscope configurations—lines moving in color, often metallic with height, width and, most importantly, depth. My favorite music has lines that extend horizontally beyond the 'screen' area."

Individuals rarely agree on what color a given sound is (composers Liszt and Rimsky-Korsakov famously disagreed on the colors of music keys); however, synesthetes show the same trends as non-synesthetes do. For example, both groups say that loud tones are brighter than soft tones, and that lower tones are darker than higher tones


Number Form Synesthesia

A number form is a mental map of numbers, which automatically and involuntarily appears whenever someone who experiences number-forms thinks of numbers. Number forms were first documented and named by Francis Galton in "The Visions of Sane Persons". Later research has identified them as a type of synesthesia. In particular, it has been suggested that number-forms are a result of "cross-activation" between regions of the parietal lobe that are involved in numerical cognition and spatial cognition. In addition to its interest as a form of synesthesia, researchers in numerical cognition have begun to explore this form of synesthesia for the insights that it may provide into the neural mechanisms of numerical-spatial associations present unconsciously in everyone.


Personification

Ordinal-linguistic personification (OLP, or personification for short) is a form of synesthesia in which ordered sequences, such as ordinal numbers, days, months and letters are associated with personalities. Although this form of synesthesia was documented as early as the 1890s modern research has, until recently, paid little attention to this form.

For example, one synesthete says, "T’s are generally crabbed, ungenerous creatures. U is a soulless sort of thing. 4 is honest, but… 3 I cannot trust… 9 is dark, a gentleman, tall and graceful, but politic under his suavity." Likewise, Cytowic's subject MT says, "I [is] a bit of a worrier at times, although easy-going; J [is] male; appearing jocular, but with strength of character; K [is] female; quiet, responsible...."

For some people in addition to numbers and other ordinal sequences, objects are sometimes imbued with a sense of personality. Recent research has begun to show that alphanumeric personification co-varies with other forms of synesthesia, and is consistent and automatic, as required to be considered a form of synesthesia.


Lexical → Gustatory Synesthesia

In the rare lexical → gustatory synesthesia, individual words and the phonemes of spoken language evoke taste sensations in the mouth. According to James Wannerton, "Whenever I hear, read, or articulate (inner speech) words or word sounds, I experience an immediate and involuntary taste sensation on my tongue. These very specific taste associations never change and have remained the same for as long as I can remember."

Jamie Ward and Julia Simner have extensively studied this form of synesthesia, and have found that the synesthetic associations are constrained by early food experiences. For example, James Wannerton has no synesthetic experiences of coffee or curry, even though he consumes them regularly as an adult. Conversely, he tastes certain breakfast cereals and candies that are no longer sold.

Additionally, these early food experiences are often paired with tastes based on the phonemes in the name of the word (e.g., /I/, /n/ and /s/ trigger James Wannerton’s taste of mince) although others have less obvious roots (e.g., /f/ triggers sherbet). To show that phonemes, rather than graphemes are the critical triggers of tastes, Ward and Simner showed that, for James Wannerton, the taste of egg is associated to the phoneme /k/, whether spelled with a "c" (e.g., accept), "k" (e.g., York), "ck" (e.g., chuck) or "x" (e.g., fax). Another source of tastes comes from semantic influences, so that food names tend to taste of the food they match, and the word "blue" tastes "inky."



Synesthesia is actually more common than people with it know. About 1 in 23 people have some form in Synesthesia, though in most cases it is very mild. Some people say their lives were enriched by having Synesthesia, but others find having it incredibly difficult and are too scared of people not believing them to tell them what they "see", "taste" or "hear".

If you know you have, or even just think you have Synesthesia then please post on here because I would really like to meet more people like me...

FuzzyLittleNightmare
October 9th, 2011, 02:54 PM
P.S. Feel free to add me and message me if you're too afraid to just post it for everyone to see

Bath
October 9th, 2011, 03:01 PM
This is so cool. I've read about this somewhere before.

I can kind of identify with the personification, because of my OCD, I feel comfortable around certain numbers, I feel safe with them. So I can see how they'd get the personality thing.

Magenta
October 9th, 2011, 03:23 PM
I'm synesthetic. :D

This isn't a mental illness, no, but there's been no real thread about it. A few have been posted in TWPR on occasion. That's where mine was.

Any grapheme for me (letters, numbers, punctuation, symbols, etc) have colours for me. Days of the week and months of the year have a 'base colour' as well as the individual colours of the letters. I also read and play music in colour which tends to make people just stare at me like 'What the heck?'.

On occasion, I experience sound --> colour synesthesia but I'm well-adept at 'tuning out' the colours and whatnot (so I can read without giving myself a headache).

There's a few synesthetes on VT as far as I know.

cmdexe
October 9th, 2011, 03:45 PM
I have grapheme -> colour syn. Eg the word "synesthesia" is yellow, but the letters are yellow, white, red, blue, yellow, green, grey, blue, yellow, white, red. :)

it's not an illness as such, i find it quite fun.

AlmostHomeless
October 9th, 2011, 06:49 PM
I always thought it would be interesting to have the sound -> color type since I play music all the time (violin). Maybe it would make me enjoy classical music more :P

FuzzyLittleNightmare
October 10th, 2011, 03:08 PM
I don't have the grapheme → colour synesthesia fully but I kind of wish I did, it would make it much easier! I only have it when it comes to numbers, whether it's written as 2 or two. It gets really confusing when reading a book and all of a sudden certain parts stand out for me. I think that is why I find maths easier than most people. I can easily take all of the information needed out of a question because it stands out to me! :)

I have pretty much all of the others listed though, but some in more milder ways than others!

FuzzyLittleNightmare
October 13th, 2011, 08:07 AM
So, I have Sound -> Colour Synesthesia as one of my things and I've never really learnt how to shut it out. But my new maths teacher at college makes my eyes and my head hurt. His voice is all grey swirling spirals and black flashes across my vision, I can't concentrate! I could make a fuss and ask to transfer classes but it isn't that easy and I don't want to tell anyone about my Synesthesia...Anyone have any tips for shutting it out?

LifeisLife
October 13th, 2011, 09:12 AM
I dont know if it's a type of Synesthesia, but a lot of words and numbers have a certain colour for me. the word synesthesia brings the colour green into my head, or the word monday brings the colour red into my mind, stuff like that...

Magenta
October 13th, 2011, 06:53 PM
I dont know if it's a type of Synesthesia, but a lot of words and numbers have a certain colour for me. the word synesthesia brings the colour green into my head, or the word monday brings the colour red into my mind, stuff like that...

That's likely a form of synesthesia, yes. If the colours have always been consistant (the same) then it is. Some people just think of certain colours for things because it was a memory tool or maybe it was random but for synesthetes, it's the same every time.

There's two types, projected and associative. Associative synesthesia makes the colour pop into your head, so to speak. Projected is where you actually SEE the colour. Mine is moderately projected as well as associative.

AllThatYouDreamed
October 13th, 2011, 08:56 PM
This is so not a mental illness :P
I has taste to color.
..Yknow, it would be awesome if it worked both ways. Colors to taste, taste to colors. /random
Afraid I can't help you w/shutting it out. Veerryy few foods come up with something I can't stand, and those that do I typically don't care for anyway (coooked peppers x.x)

LifeisLife
October 18th, 2011, 03:19 PM
That's likely a form of synesthesia, yes. If the colours have always been consistant (the same) then it is. Some people just think of certain colours for things because it was a memory tool or maybe it was random but for synesthetes, it's the same every time.

There's two types, projected and associative. Associative synesthesia makes the colour pop into your head, so to speak. Projected is where you actually SEE the colour. Mine is moderately projected as well as associative.

ok, thanks for that, made me understand it even better. (: in that case i guess i've got associative synesthesia... :/

Syvelocin
October 23rd, 2011, 12:26 AM
Grapheme and personification synaesthesia on my end. I sometimes have things with tastes and smells as well, all associative though. Hard to describe how the tastes and smells are associative. I just... know. I don't experience it in actuality. I just... I don't know. :P

People, words, emotions (words and emotions are to be considered separate things), and memories have colours.

Numbers, letters, months, days of the week, all have a colour, personality, and gender. Some have sexual orientations as well and a couple are transgender. 2 is yellow and he's an arrogant, self-centred prick. 9 is white and she's graceful, mature, and quiet. But not as quiet as 1, who is white as well, shy, but he's much younger than nine.

Words and names aren't determined by the letters they're made up of. Same goes for numbers like 10, though not always. 1 is white and 0 is white, but 10 is black somehow. 11 is white though. 12 is yellow, 13 is red, etc. they're all determined by the last number. Bigger numbers I see their separate digits. Sometimes words are determined by their components though, especially in words and names that have a huge emphasis on the first letter. A lot of A names take the colour red, and A is red. My name is very grey for instance, which is interesting because when you take it apart, R is black, I is white, T is black, and H is lavender. So really, I guess it sort of works, but it isn't an exact mixture of the letters. Names are also very powerful in that they're the only common thing I get smells and tastes from as well as colours. I get the smell of cotton from my name, and the taste of ice. It's not very exciting for my name though. I have a friend Ana Maria, and I get the taste of chocolate and citrus from her name.

Actually, if anyone wants a real in-depth comparison, I love hearing about how everything is to another person with synaesthesia. It's very odd, but interesting.

iheargreen
January 16th, 2012, 07:42 PM
I have sound-color synesthesia. :) When I hear a singer's voice, or some types of instruments like synths, i can associate (but not physically see) a color with it. I find it kind of cool, and it doesn't bug me in the least. The only thing that kind of bugs me is my mom can associate the colors too, and the colors she tells me are so much more different, sometimes even opposites of mine. ONe song, for example, I saw maroon. She saw BLUE! I could not possibly imagine that song to be blue, so it felt so weird for me knowing that she saw blue in a song that I thought was so obviously maroon. Anyone else get me?
--iheargreen

fire and water
February 2nd, 2012, 01:23 PM
I have synesthesia

Magenta
February 2nd, 2012, 02:21 PM
Please don't bump old threads. :locked: