View Full Version : Who do you think will be President of the U.S. in 2013?
Jody Jackson
October 9th, 2011, 01:41 PM
Who do you think will be elected president for 2013?
louisgray
October 9th, 2011, 01:43 PM
Obama 2nd term
Genghis Khan
October 9th, 2011, 01:43 PM
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embers
October 9th, 2011, 01:45 PM
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I wholeheartedly second this.
Bath
October 9th, 2011, 01:45 PM
I really don't know.
If it's Michelle Bachmann, I will cry.
Jupiter
October 9th, 2011, 01:46 PM
NOT OBAMA Don't you think he's put us in enough debt?
Bath
October 9th, 2011, 01:47 PM
NOT OBAMA Don't you think he's put us in enough debt?
Because us being in debt before Obama totally has nothing to do with anything.
louisgray
October 9th, 2011, 01:49 PM
if obama stays in,he might actually pull out troops,which is a good thing
Jupiter
October 9th, 2011, 01:50 PM
Because us being in debt before Obama totally has nothing to do with anything.
Good point, but he didn't help.
http://www.usdebtclock.org/ Thought this would be interesting.
Tristin.
October 9th, 2011, 01:53 PM
me =3
mike3_1
October 9th, 2011, 01:56 PM
NOT OBAMA Don't you think he's put us in enough debt?
We are in debt because of the tragic 8 years of Bush. Obama is just trying to clean up the mess.
Because us being in debt before Obama totally has nothing to do with anything.
Exactly.
if obama stays in,he might actually pull out troops,which is a good thing
We shouldn't even be in war in the first place. I believe that we have been safe from attacks since Bush was voted out.
Personally I think, wait, I know Obama will make a 2nd term. If not I will reach the age where I can move to a different country.
Jupiter
October 9th, 2011, 01:57 PM
We are in debt because of the tragic 8 years of Bush. Obama is just trying to clean up the mess.
He's doing really bad. Another 4 trillion down the hole.
Commander Thor
October 9th, 2011, 02:01 PM
He's doing really bad. Another 4 trillion down the hole.
It's not his fault, near all of his proposals WOULD have helped, in one way or another.
Congress being the children that they are, have caused it to sink further down into this hole, not Obama. Obama has tried to do everything in his power to get us out, but congress keeps getting in his way.
Jupiter
October 9th, 2011, 02:02 PM
It's not his fault, near all of his proposals WOULD have helped, in one way or another.
Congress being the children that they are, have caused it to sink further down into this hole, not Obama. Obama has tried to do everything in his power to get us out, but congress keeps getting in his way.
So we need someone congress will agree with. Over half of congress is what? Oh that's right....
Tristin.
October 9th, 2011, 02:05 PM
i hate to sound silly, and i shall admit i can often do this myself, but Eric, at 14 years old, dont you think you maybe just a tad misinformed or possibly misguided?
Jupiter
October 9th, 2011, 02:08 PM
Growing up with a racist, sexist father and a Christian mother, hmm... I would. But, considering my school is democrat out the ass, I feel I have the best of worst worlds. Politics, what a hunk of shit.
Sage
October 9th, 2011, 02:12 PM
Over half of congress is what?
Inept, out-of-touch blow-hards? I don't like Obama either, but I'd rather take someone who can't put the fire out over someone who'll happily pour gasoline on it. Representative democracy is a joke anyway.
Jupiter
October 9th, 2011, 02:15 PM
Inept, out-of-touch blow-hards? I don't like Obama either, but I'd rather take someone who can't put the fire out over someone who'll happily pour gasoline on it. Representative democracy is a joke anyway.
you do have a point....
mike3_1
October 9th, 2011, 02:26 PM
He's doing really bad. Another 4 trillion down the hole.
Compared to the 7 trillion bush put us in? Obama is doing great. Why don't YOU try to clean up the mess of the worst president to ever serve.
Jupiter
October 9th, 2011, 02:27 PM
Compared to the 7 trillion bush put us in? Obama is doing great. Why don't YOU try to clean up the mess of the worst president to ever serve.
I wouldn't necessarily say the worst. Plus, I do have to say that I feel like you're points are probably bias...
Genghis Khan
October 9th, 2011, 02:47 PM
I wouldn't necessarily say the worst.
Wow. What does a man have to do these days to be the worst American president?
mike3_1
October 9th, 2011, 02:55 PM
I wouldn't necessarily say the worst. Plus, I do have to say that I feel like you're points are probably bias...
Growing up with a racist, sexist father and a Christian mother, hmm... I would. But, considering my school is democrat out the ass, I feel I have the best of worst worlds. Politics, what a hunk of shit.
And you think I'm biased? That is just my views. I seriously will move if Obama is not President again. And I'm almost offended at your "my school is democrat out the ass..." comment, it makes it sound like you hate anybody and anything democrat.
Perseus
October 9th, 2011, 03:13 PM
Well, let's see. On the Republican side, there's a cornucopia of choices, for some odd reason. Michelle Bachman and Herman Cain would destroy this country so badly, I will cry if they get the nomination and win. Rick Perry is a dumbass but not as bad as the aforementioned. Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum are just retarded as hell, and Ron Paul, as from what I can tell, is too wishy washy to hold any opinion on anything so he let's the states handle everything like we are in a goddamn confederacy. Mitt Romeny doesn't seem that bad, but he still sucks the cock of every corporation like every Republican.
I most likely will vote Obama, unless there's some reason to vote anyone else. Unless Ron Paul gets the Republican nomination, then Obama will most likely win since he's the lesser of two evils. But then again, he can't do anything with Congress always cock blocking him because Republicans are childish.
Jakezilla
October 9th, 2011, 03:20 PM
Probably that Bachman chick...
Cybercode
October 9th, 2011, 03:29 PM
Back in 2009, I wasn't one of the Republicans who over-reacted and the world was going to end, I actually gave President Obama a chance. But there is ONE reasons why I want him out.
I live on the Space Coast (Titusville, FL to be exact) and it's a stone throw away from Kennedy Space Center. Now let me get to a point before I get bashed. Yes I know Bush cancelled the Shuttles, but they were old and they needed to be replaced by the end of the decade. Bush implemented the Constellation project. But when Obama came in he scrapped that and we were left with nothing. The next replacement won't come for another 5 -6 years and our plan to return to the moon is now on hold by 20 YEARS! Because of that decision of his, thousands of workers got laid off, including my father, and this area is dying. (For those that were here, it was actually a nice place). Sadly we might have to move to North Dakota (a VERY drastic change from Florida to North Dakota).
All I want is someone to bring back the space program. Whoever will do that, I want as President. (But of course, Obama said that he would make the space program better but he killed it.)
Sad to say, none of the candidates on any side are willing to bring the space program back.
Jupiter
October 9th, 2011, 03:29 PM
And you think I'm biased? That is just my views. I seriously will move if Obama is not President again. And I'm almost offended at your "my school is democrat out the ass..." comment, it makes it sound like you hate anybody and anything democrat.
Don't be offended. What I meant by that was they only show the democrat side. They don't show both sides. They are extremely bias. I would feel the same way if they were republican as shit.
PureReality
October 9th, 2011, 07:17 PM
Probably that Bachman chick...
Nah, I think she is already out. No way she will be elected.
She was talking about making porn illegal:
http://blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2011/07/michele_bachmann_pornography.php
And not to mention her claims to actually make gas $2/gallon (which wouldn't happen):
http://seekingalpha.com/article/288504-michele-bachmann-promises-2-gas-whether-her-plan-would-create-another-great-recession
I suppose we can call her insane now.
We just need a president that will pull us out of this debt. I support Obama to an extent but all of those bailouts to the banks were B.S. The government is in bed with the corporations now-a days. If I were able to register, I would register Democrat but I believe we need a president like Ron Paul now. He supports the legalization of Marijuana, and even believes government should get out of the way when it comes to gay marriages.
Libertarians ftw. :yeah:
tHe_Jester1080
October 9th, 2011, 07:36 PM
I REALLY want Trump, but he aint running so I want Bachman.
It really just depends on the Republican nomination though, if Romney gets it then I think he will be elected.
ANYBODY can do better than Obama
All I can say is... Don't tell Obama what comes after a trillion, lol
tHe_Jester1080
October 9th, 2011, 07:47 PM
Well, let's see. On the Republican side, there's a cornucopia of choices, for some odd reason. Michelle Bachman and Herman Cain would destroy this country so badly, I will cry if they get the nomination and win. Rick Perry is a dumbass but not as bad as the aforementioned. Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum are just retarded as hell, and Ron Paul, as from what I can tell, is too wishy washy to hold any opinion on anything so he let's the states handle everything like we are in a goddamn confederacy. Mitt Romeny doesn't seem that bad, but he still sucks the cock of every corporation like every Republican.
I most likely will vote Obama, unless there's some reason to vote anyone else. Unless Ron Paul gets the Republican nomination, then Obama will most likely win since he's the lesser of two evils. But then again, he can't do anything with Congress always cock blocking him because Republicans are childish.
You think Bachman will destroy this country look at what OBAMA has does done.
1. Obama is not a leader. He just sits behind his desk or goes on vacation at Martha's vineyard. (debt ceiling crisis perfect example)
2. He blames everyone but himself for the countries failures
3. He has let China and OPEC totally abuse us.
4. He has some strange idea that spending our money will actually help us save money... WHAT???????? just that tells you that he's stupid
5. No other country respects us anymore because of him. Even our allies
6. Congress isn't cock blockin him, it's more like the other way around. He is sending them horrible bills that even he knows they won't vote for it. That way he can say that he sent them something but they turned it down, making congress look like the bad guys.
7. He's been using his "Jobs Act", which is just another name for him for a tax increase, as a cover up for his campainging.
and 8. He has destroyed our military.
I'm sure I can think of other reasons but I don't have all day.
I have made myself clear yet why Obama CAN NOT be re-elected. If I haven't I'm sure I can find the time to give you all the reasons.
Perseus
October 9th, 2011, 08:22 PM
You think Bachman will destroy this country look at what OBAMA has does done.
1. Obama is not a leader. He just sits behind his desk or goes on vacation at Martha's vineyard. (debt ceiling crisis perfect example) Every president goes on vacation. Let presidents have their vacations. It's extremely stressful. And I don't recall him being on vacation during the crisis, so provide your sources, bud.
2. He blames everyone but himself for the countries failuresHave you seen what the Republicans have been doing? They're not even trying to compromise on issues. He shouldn't blame everyone but himself, but everyone does deserve the blame for their immaturity.
3. He has let China and OPEC totally abuse us.Provide examples.
4. He has some strange idea that spending our money will actually help us save money... WHAT???????? just that tells you that he's stupidIt's called deficit spending, bud. He's spending money to create jobs so there will be more money put into the economy. It's called Keynesian Economics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deficit_spending#Keynesian_Effect). "In recessions the aggregate demand of economies falls. In other words, businesses and people tighten their belts and spend less money. Lower spending results in demand falling further and a vicious circle ensues of job losses and further falls in spending. Keynes's solution to the problem was that governments should borrow money and boost demand by pushing the money into the economy. Once the economy recovered, and was expanding again, governments should pay back the loans." Source (http://www.maynardkeynes.org/maynard-keynes-economics.html)
5. No other country respects us anymore because of him. Even our alliesActually, Obama is well liked outside the U.S., so I don't know what you're talking about.
6. Congress isn't cock blockin him, it's more like the other way around. He is sending them horrible bills that even he knows they won't vote for it. That way he can say that he sent them something but they turned it down, making congress look like the bad guys. Obama puts forth bills that would help, but the Republicans see it as another "Socialist, steal all the rich people's money to give to the lazy, disgusting poor people who made themselves poor". Obama tries to help more than they do. The loopholes need to be closed that are there with corporations and their tax rate needs to be raised, unless they're a small business.
7. He's been using his "Jobs Act", which is just another name for him for a tax increase, as a cover up for his campainging.lolwut
8. He has destroyed our military.Uh, no, he hasn't. And the military gets too much money, anyway. Taking down powerful terrorists doesn't sound like he's destroyed the military, buddyboy.
Jupiter
October 9th, 2011, 09:02 PM
wow, he really... had you there.
tHe_Jester1080
October 9th, 2011, 09:09 PM
Every president goes on vacation. Let presidents have their vacations. It's extremely stressful. And I don't recall him being on vacation during the crisis, so provide your sources, bud.
He has every right to go on vacation sure go ahead, but everyone was mad at Bush and all his vacations when Obama has gone on more vacations than him in just one term
Have you seen what the Republicans have been doing? They're not even trying to compromise on issues. He shouldn't blame everyone but himself, but everyone does deserve the blame for their immaturity.
I agree with the second part, but I am proud of the tea party for taking a stand against the democrats and not backing down
Provide examples.
$100 a barrel of oil when it should be half that, the stealth helicopter ordeal with pakistan, China stealing our jobs... do you need more
It's called deficit spending, bud. He's spending money to create jobs so there will be more money put into the economy. It's called Keynesian Economics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deficit_spending#Keynesian_Effect). "In recessions the aggregate demand of economies falls. In other words, businesses and people tighten their belts and spend less money. Lower spending results in demand falling further and a vicious circle ensues of job losses and further falls in spending. Keynes's solution to the problem was that governments should borrow money and boost demand by pushing the money into the economy. Once the economy recovered, and was expanding again, governments should pay back the loans." Source (http://www.maynardkeynes.org/maynard-keynes-economics.html)
But Obama is wasting the money, we have bridges crumbling, schools falling apart, spend it their. Not on some black bus for his campaigning... which was made in Canada by the way (but then agian it could of been china), and a new air plane.
Actually, Obama is well liked outside the U.S., so I don't know what you're talking about.
Okay what about how at the begining of his presidency the German president straight up said she didn't like him.
Obama puts forth bills that would help, but the Republicans see it as another "Socialist, steal all the rich people's money to give to the lazy, disgusting poor people who made themselves poor". Obama tries to help more than they do. The loopholes need to be closed that are there with corporations and their tax rate needs to be raised, unless they're a small business.
Jobs Act bill perfect example of horrible bills, during the debt ceiling crisis he sent more horible ones
lolwut
Uh, no, he hasn't. And the military gets too much money, anyway. Taking down powerful terrorists doesn't sound like he's destroyed the military, buddyboy.
What terrorists has he taking down, Bin Laden was taken down because of Bush, if it wasn't for him we wouldn't have gotten nowhere in reconcilliation against the terrorists after 9/11, all stop all progress over in Iraq, Afganistan, and Pakistan
Tenoramic
October 9th, 2011, 09:11 PM
In this lifetime no one can do what Obama does everyday. Obviously there are a lot of people don't know much about politician agendas that create disasters that Obama needs to pick it up. Spending time with family is not a crime; obvious the president and his family cannot fly normal airline like the rest do. So he has his special plane. it is security reason not trying to waste money. Every presidents in history fly white house's plane, So don't point fingers at him.
There are high percentage of republicans are so wealthy that their wealth can feed the third world for years. I don't mean democrat don't have wealthy people. But compare to republicans, it's like compare Joe moe to bill gate.
He tried to push tons of helpful bills to the senates n the house. But certain groups of people prevent the bills to be successfully put in motion. so don't blame him. Debt crisis didn't not happen during Obama term. it happens way back even further then the Bushes. And just republican's made it worst. Look at those republican wealthy enough to get their own oil field and their own zip code. Look at GW bush's family.
In his term he didn't use religion to attack people and make them feel like shit and worthless. Didn't the constitution stated that separate church and state.??. I m catholic but I don't believe if u pray god will magically turns rock to gold or god will make the country turns good. Tats just crazy. It make real people makes everything work. The paper won't sign by itself and the jobless people will have a job if they pray. I believe the faith will help but definitely not main points.
So Obama did a great job! I believe right now there is no one can remotely fill his shoes.
Perseus
October 9th, 2011, 09:14 PM
What terrorists has he taking down, Bin Laden was taken down because of Bush, if it wasn't for him we wouldn't have gotten nowhere in reconcilliation against the terrorists after 9/11, all stop all progress over in Iraq, Afganistan, and Pakistan
Hmm... (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/the-terrorist-notches-on-obamas-belt/)
HaydenM
October 10th, 2011, 02:01 AM
Well from an outsiders perspective Obama should keep it, he has done a pretty good job up fixing Bush's mess he left the world in. As soon as he gets out of Iraq / Afghanistan the word will be a better place.
theElder
October 10th, 2011, 07:26 PM
i think it will be either donald trump or wolf blitzer
Perseus
October 10th, 2011, 07:28 PM
i think it will be either donald trump or wolf blitzer
Neither of those two are running for president.
StoppingTime
October 10th, 2011, 07:32 PM
i think it will be either donald trump or wolf blitzer
I hope your kidding. Even if they were running, could you imagine America being run by "The Donald"?
tHe_Jester1080
October 10th, 2011, 08:10 PM
You guys sound just like Obama, always talking about what others should be doing and aren't doing. Obama is the PRESIDENT, he and only he can make things happen, look around things aren't happening (at least good things anyways). Yes, Congress isn't doing the best of jobs. But times during the Debt Ceiling Crisis, Obama is the one who should be leading them, telling them I'm the president you will listen to me, this is what's going to happen. Did he do that? The answer is no. He sat at the white house and waited for the house to create a bill, which they did on several accounts but were all destroyed by the senate (which is controlled by democrates). Yes Obama did send some bills, but they were absolutely horrible. Obama had his chance during that crisis to step up and be a leader but he didn't. He blew his chance.
Ya, he needs his own plane, but he already had one in the original Air Force 1, so why did he have to get a new one? The answer is simple, he likes to spend money. Same goes for his big black bus built in Canada which is just a real embarassment if you ask me.
Don't even get me started on Obama care. But I'll touch on it a little. NO ONE should be forced to buy health insurance. Simple as that.
You know I respect Obama, he is our president and he deserves everyones respect, but that doesn't mean I like the way he is our president. Donald Trump said it best when he said that he never expected Obama to be a great President, but he did expect Obama to be a "cheer leader" for the nation and get us going. But he can't even do that.
aperson444
October 10th, 2011, 08:16 PM
Obama is sort of a dick. He's let down a lot of people. One of the major things that is often overlooked is his crackdown on medical marijuana. When he came into office, he promised to allow the states to decide on the matter, but now towards the end of his term, he is putting a very large amount of support into the DEA, IRS and other agencies to crack down on medical marijuana. Hopefully Ron Paul will win, but unfortuantely the American populace is too used to neoconservative and neoliberal ideology. I think that Obama may be the only good candidate that actually has a chance of winning.
tHe_Jester1080
October 10th, 2011, 08:17 PM
I hope your kidding. Even if they were running, could you imagine America being run by "The Donald"?
You must not realize, just how great of a buisness man Trump really is, which is what this country needs. He knows how to set OPEC, Pakistan, and China striaght and tell them to leave us the hell alone and this is how things are going to be. He has friends in every country, countries you probably haven't even heard of. He knows how to get jobs back from China.
Wouldn't it also just be so great on inaugeration day when Obama hands over everything to Trump and Trump sticks his finger in Obama's face and says "Obama, you're FIRED!!!!!!!!!!"
Neptune
October 11th, 2011, 06:45 PM
I don't know. The two people I like are: Hermain Cain and Obama. Everyone else is either 1) annoying or 2) an old politician.
PureReality
October 11th, 2011, 07:15 PM
Ron Paul, hopefully.
Amen, Buddha!
You must not realize, just how great of a buisness man Trump really is, which is what this country needs. He knows how to set OPEC, Pakistan, and China striaght and tell them to leave us the hell alone and this is how things are going to be. He has friends in every country, countries you probably haven't even heard of. He knows how to get jobs back from China.
Wouldn't it also just be so great on inaugeration day when Obama hands over everything to Trump and Trump sticks his finger in Obama's face and says "Obama, you're FIRED!!!!!!!!!!"
LOL -- no, I think he is the last thing we need. It will make us look idiotic, and I never considered him a serious candidate; we are not trying to take a 10-year backward step in civil rights, either.
Sugaree
October 11th, 2011, 09:13 PM
And you think I'm biased? That is just my views. I seriously will move if Obama is not President again. And I'm almost offended at your "my school is democrat out the ass..." comment, it makes it sound like you hate anybody and anything democrat.
Considering that even saying the word "Democrat" or anything related to liberal ideas is such a taboo in this country, I'm not surprised.
abdheuuuchjc
October 12th, 2011, 01:22 AM
Hb bob Dylan he knows more about society than anyone should. Nobama for 2012 to bad trump left we need a business man
Sage
October 12th, 2011, 01:46 PM
Hb bob Dylan he knows more about society than anyone should. Nobama for 2012 to bad trump left we need a business man
The last thing the United States needs are more politicians with private business interests. Trump isn't even a good business man, his cheap shit always finds a way of going bankrupt and he's a notorious liar in terms of how much money he has.
StoppingTime
October 12th, 2011, 02:26 PM
The last thing the United States needs are more politicians with private business interests. Trump isn't even a good business man, his cheap shit always finds a way of going bankrupt and he's a notorious liar in terms of how much money he has.
He's barely doing stuff now either. He doesn't own half of what he used to now. The name Trump is more valuable now.
Underground_Network
October 12th, 2011, 02:27 PM
Tim for president.
StoppingTime
October 12th, 2011, 02:29 PM
Tim for president.
:yes: mhmm...
Sage
October 12th, 2011, 02:43 PM
Tim for president.
Welcome to the United States of Norway.
abdheuuuchjc
October 12th, 2011, 10:25 PM
Really sage... Counting off rep cause u disagree with my political opinion that's not lame at all
ericrulz
October 13th, 2011, 01:40 AM
Herman Caine because anybody who can give the country $9.99 pizzas deserves to be president. :D
Korashk
October 13th, 2011, 02:46 PM
Herman Caine because anybody who can give the country $9.99 pizzas deserves to be president. :D
Going by that logic Mike Illich deserves to be president.
EpicCookie
October 15th, 2011, 03:28 PM
Anyone who isnt Obama
Jean Poutine
October 15th, 2011, 05:43 PM
Michele Bachman.
I want to be able to poke fun at America again. Obama doesn't do anything wrong enough to warrant laughing at. I want "creationism in school" bills, nukes on Iran, and the US out of the global economy.
Rawwwrr
October 17th, 2011, 02:09 AM
Hopefully Obama. A republican would decimate america.
Azunite
October 17th, 2011, 08:12 AM
Sarah Palin <3
But seriously, Sage should go for it.
AllThatYouDreamed
October 21st, 2011, 05:57 PM
Representative democracy is a joke anyway.
May be off topic, but is direct democracy practical in a country that has a population in the lines of 300mil?
I hope it's Obama, just because I don't think there's a single decent Republican candidate. I'm not fond of him either, but.
Politics is the better of evils IMO.
Sogeking
October 22nd, 2011, 08:01 AM
Hopefully Obama. A republican would decimate america.
Because republicans are always to blame for America's troubles.
Cybercode
October 22nd, 2011, 08:07 AM
Hopefully Obama. A republican would decimate america.
would you care to give an example that doesn't have to do with Bush.
Shenron
October 22nd, 2011, 10:49 AM
Herman Caine because anybody who can give the country $9.99 pizzas deserves to be president. :D
Going by that logic Mike Illich deserves to be president.
That was a reference to what Mitt Romney said at the debate.
My opinion is that Herman Cain is a good candidate. I do not agree with his 999 plan which is the biggest thing on his agenda. For that reason I hope Mitt Romney gets the Republican Nomination. Obama has not really done much of anything thus far. I do not think he is what we need right now. His intentions were good but his execution was horrible. I realize than Congress is to blame for some if not most of that. If Congress will not let him do anything don;t you think we need a president who might actually be able to get something passed?
Jupiter
October 22nd, 2011, 11:33 AM
I hope your kidding. Even if they were running, could you imagine America being run by "The Donald"?
It'd be like everyday, new cabinet. "You're FIRED!"
trooneh
October 22nd, 2011, 12:04 PM
would you care to give an example that doesn't have to do with Bush.
Rick Perry.
I think it will be Romney, or Obama.
Rawwwrr
October 22nd, 2011, 06:11 PM
f Congress will not let him do anything don;t you think we need a president who might actually be able to get something passed?
Can you seriously not see the absolutely catastrophic breakdown of any type of logic here?
You put the responsibility, quite rightly, on Congress, but then say that it's Obama's fault anyway and that a new President would be able to do it even though the only reason Obama can't is because of Congress? :what::what::what:
Shenron
October 22nd, 2011, 06:56 PM
Can you seriously not see the absolutely catastrophic breakdown of any type of logic here?
You put the responsibility, quite rightly, on Congress, but then say that it's Obama's fault anyway and that a new President would be able to do it even though the only reason Obama can't is because of Congress? :what::what::what:
No, maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'm saying that Obama is unable to get anything done because of Congress. Congress is being stubborn because Obama has pissed them off. The same bills, presented to Congress by a different President, would be far more likely to pass. I'm not placing all the blame on Congress, Obama is still to blame for some of this. My point was, because of the hard feelings between Congress and Obama, he is unable to get anything done, thus, we need to replace Obama so that Congress will begin to actually listen to the President.
Rawwwrr
October 23rd, 2011, 04:02 AM
No, maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'm saying that Obama is unable to get anything done because of Congress. Congress is being stubborn because Obama has pissed them off. The same bills, presented to Congress by a different President, would be far more likely to pass. I'm not placing all the blame on Congress, Obama is still to blame for some of this. My point was, because of the hard feelings between Congress and Obama, he is unable to get anything done, thus, we need to replace Obama so that Congress will begin to actually listen to the President.
The reason they're being stubborn is because a lot of the bills he's trying to get passed would benefit the middle and lower class and would not be so good for the upper class ("The 1%"). Seeing as Congress has been bought out by the rich, they can pull the strings and make it difficult for Obama to pass bills like these. The issue isn't that it's Obama trying to pass the bills.
Efflorescence
October 23rd, 2011, 06:34 AM
Amen, Buddha!
LOL -- no, I think he is the last thing we need. It will make us look idiotic, and I never considered him a serious candidate; we are not trying to take a 10-year backward step in civil rights, either.
I don't know much about these but Ron Paul looks ok......Trump certainly not in my opinion. I would also like America to have a president that really deserves the Nobel Peace Price after accomplishing something useful. Of course compared to Bush, Obama's not bad but I feel he should have done more, especially when it comes to America's national debt. I mean I couldn't even read that number!
Tim for president.
Yeah, Tim for president. Ummmm....who's Tim?
Shenron
October 23rd, 2011, 11:06 AM
The reason they're being stubborn is because a lot of the bills he's trying to get passed would benefit the middle and lower class and would not be so good for the upper class ("The 1%"). Seeing as Congress has been bought out by the rich, they can pull the strings and make it difficult for Obama to pass bills like these. The issue isn't that it's Obama trying to pass the bills.
The past three years have been some of the worst in recent history for Congressional cooperation with the President. Obama had a majority in Congress at the start and he still couldn't get much passed. If you really think that it has nothing to do with Obama then you are blind.
Twirl
October 24th, 2011, 04:47 AM
Kevin Rudd for President lol
StoppingTime
October 24th, 2011, 06:00 AM
Yeah, Tim for president. Ummmm....who's Tim?
The all powerful Sage.
Efflorescence
October 24th, 2011, 01:33 PM
The all powerful Sage.
OH! How strange......:)
deadpie
October 25th, 2011, 12:11 AM
Herman Cain! He's against abortion even in the case of rape and incest! What a true Christian. I love Jesus so much. He's also supported by the Koch Brothers. They're responsible for giving many people cancer. Another true Christian thing. Cain also is against homosexuality in all possible ways. I agree with him that Liberals are trying to destroy America. They're all muslim terrorists! Those damn Liberal pagan atheist scums! He wants to ban all mosques. Praise God!
Tea Party 4 lyfe. Fuck humanity.
http://static.globalgrind.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/article_images/images/2011_october/1317821991-herman-cain-georgia.jpg
What a sexy man.
(end sarcasm)
I don't support anyone. Would probably choose Obama, even though he's not a good choice though. I'd rather choose shit then really bad shit.
supadupahitz
October 28th, 2011, 08:14 PM
I was hoping our much-needed revolution would come before the next election, but we'll see. We could vote Mickey Mouse into office and not be any better or worse off than we are now. Do you honestly believe the President determines the direction of our country? That's just naive.
Sporadica
October 30th, 2011, 12:36 AM
Because us being in debt before Obama totally has nothing to do with anything.
I'd like to let everyone know that the US debt has been increasing ever since Regan and possibly the guy before him (Ford or Carter) and it's been both Democrats and Republican presidents that have added to the debt, I admit Obama has been handled one pile of shit to clean up, and thankfully he's not adding to the debt as much as his predecessors have.
I think Obama will win a second term.
tHe_Jester1080
October 30th, 2011, 05:01 PM
Amen, Buddha!
LOL -- no, I think he is the last thing we need. It will make us look idiotic, and I never considered him a serious candidate; we are not trying to take a 10-year backward step in civil rights, either.
Oh yeah, and Obama doesn't make us look idiotic? Trump can get our jobs back, manage our money(yes he has lost money, but guess what, he got it back), set OPEC, China, and pakistan straight, and get America respected again.
GummyBear
October 30th, 2011, 05:06 PM
I think you'll find your in 'debt' because of a global economic crisis which should not be blamed fully on Bush,Obama or any individual. but i think Obama will survive for a second term but then again i am not really that knowledgeable on US Politics
Kuervo
October 30th, 2011, 05:15 PM
U.S. Government class............from the four candidates: Obama, Romney, Bachmann, and Perry. From Recent Presidential elections, Bachmann is out because she's a woman (no offense to women but the whole line of presidents have been all Rich, old, white men), perry....ehh doubt he'll get into the finals. at the end it would be between Romney and Obama. From statistics, Obama would probably be re-elected since Romney is Mormon and for some unknown reasons Americans are afraid of Mormons >> ( I'm not Mormon at all but i respect their faith) so from that I'm guessing Obama.
Obama!!! 2012!
GummyBear
October 30th, 2011, 05:18 PM
(no offense to women but the whole line of presidents have been all Rich, old, white men),
Obama being one exception!
Sage
October 30th, 2011, 05:29 PM
Oh yeah, and Obama doesn't make us look idiotic?
Not really, no, global opinions of America typically improved once Bush was out of office.
Trump can get our jobs back, manage our money(yes he has lost money, but guess what, he got it back), set OPEC, China, and pakistan straight, and get America respected again.
Yeah, who's more respectable than a loud-mouthed reality show host with a bad haircut? Please. If you want America to be respected, you have to drop this notion of american exceptionalism and the idea that you have to 'set everyone else straight.'
Obama being one exception!
Yeah, he was a rich, old, half-white guy. Ooooh, the status quo is shaking in its figurative boots.
thatfatguy
November 3rd, 2011, 08:37 PM
i hope rick perry/ron paul gets elected. fuck anyone who likes obama, he's hardly done anything but screw us over more than we already were.
Rawwwrr
November 3rd, 2011, 08:52 PM
Ah, the naivety of those who believe that electing someone different will change things.
thatfatguy
November 3rd, 2011, 09:09 PM
Ah, the naivety of those who believe that electing someone different will change things.
Obama is the biggest disaster next to Dubya and Hoover. He has gotten us into another war, and put us in even more debt. Yes he did wack Bin Laden, but that doesn't make him some sort of god.
Rawwwrr
November 3rd, 2011, 09:12 PM
Obama is the biggest disaster next to Dubya and Hoover. He has gotten us into another war, and put us in even more debt. Yes he did wack Bin Laden, but that doesn't make him some sort of god.
Who said I think Obama is a good thing? It's just naive of anyone to think that it's the leader and not the system that's at fault here. As long as the system is as broken and corrupt as it is, it doesn't matter who you elect, the country will still fail.
kenoloor
November 3rd, 2011, 09:15 PM
Obama is the biggest disaster next to Dubya and Hoover. He has gotten us into another war, and put us in even more debt. Yes he did wack Bin Laden, but that doesn't make him some sort of god.
Cuz, y'know, Bush was AWESOME.
Who said I think Obama is a good thing? It's just naive of anyone to think that it's the leader and not the system that's at fault here. As long as the system is as broken and corrupt as it is, it doesn't matter who you elect, the country will still fail.
This.
Also, if it's fucking Michelle Bachmann, I'm moving my ass to Canada.
Rawwwrr
November 3rd, 2011, 09:19 PM
Also, if it's fucking Michelle Bachmann, I'm moving my ass to Canada.
Bachmann is the worst possible thing that could happen to America.
Actually, no, Sarah Palin is.
kenoloor
November 3rd, 2011, 09:20 PM
Bachmann is the worst possible thing that could happen to America.
Actually, no, Sarah Palin is.
Although, they're like a benchmark for insane. If we didn't have crazy people, we wouldn't know normal when we saw it.
thatfatguy
November 3rd, 2011, 09:22 PM
Cuz, y'know, Bush was AWESOME.
This.
Also, if it's fucking Michelle Bachmann, I'm moving my ass to Canada.
Nice job not reading my post. I said Dubya was bad.
kenoloor
November 3rd, 2011, 09:27 PM
Nice job not reading my post. I said Dubya was bad.
And I'm saying the fact that you equate the two is ludicrous. Obama had a shitty job having to play janitor after Bush fucked this country up do badly.
thatfatguy
November 3rd, 2011, 09:44 PM
And I'm saying the fact that you equate the two is ludicrous. Obama had a shitty job having to play janitor after Bush fucked this country up do badly.
Obama sucks because he promised "change" and "hope" and all this other bullshit but has delivered none of it. Yes, bush was a shitty president, but that's no excuse to suck. Did FDR suck after Hoover's fuckups? no. And hoover was WAY worse than Bush.
kenoloor
November 3rd, 2011, 09:46 PM
FDR's congress was also much more favorable than Obama's current congress, if I remember correctly.
fatguystrangler
November 12th, 2011, 10:15 PM
I'm really hoping for Newt Gingrich. And to all the people using the bullshit excuse that Obama is just "trying to clean up the mess hurr durr" That is no excuse for being a shit tier president. Plenty of presidents have been elected after a shit president and been successful.
Scarface
December 11th, 2011, 10:27 PM
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I'd like to see who is really going to vote for bachmann. lol
tHe_Jester1080
December 11th, 2011, 10:49 PM
whoever wins GOP nomination
Sugaree
December 11th, 2011, 11:23 PM
whoever wins GOP nomination
A lot of GOP supporters in this thread it seems. Any reason why you think the GOP will win the next election?
antiabort
December 12th, 2011, 05:30 PM
Better be mitt romney.
kenoloor
December 12th, 2011, 05:58 PM
Better be mitt romney.
Fuck yeah. Cuz, y'know, who needs human rights? Or choice? Or sex education? Nah.
Jupiter
December 12th, 2011, 06:02 PM
Fuck yeah. Cuz, y'know, who needs human rights? Or choice? Or sex education? Nah.
I agree.
Jess
December 12th, 2011, 07:02 PM
Better be mitt romney.
why do you want him to win?
Mara-chan
December 12th, 2011, 07:15 PM
Who said I think Obama is a good thing? It's just naive of anyone to think that it's the leader and not the system that's at fault here. As long as the system is as broken and corrupt as it is, it doesn't matter who you elect, the country will still fail.
i whole heartedly agree with this....i mean...people could put mickey mouse into freaking office and nothing will change.....well...besides everything will turn pastelly and crap....but still...it doesnt matter who you put in office....this country is failing.....and its gonna take a lot of crap to pull it back together....
tHe_Jester1080
December 12th, 2011, 10:32 PM
A lot of GOP supporters in this thread it seems. Any reason why you think the GOP will win the next election?
Have you seen Obama's approval rating, almost as low as Carter's and is still dropping. right now 43%. now that isn't the deciding factor in the elections but it shows a lot of people are fed up with Obama. I'm not always for Republicans either. I like past democratic presidents such as Thomas Jefferson, John F. Kennedy(can't stand his brother Ted though),Bill Clinton(can't stand hillary though), and Lyndon B. Johnson.
Sugaree
December 13th, 2011, 12:59 AM
Have you seen Obama's approval rating, almost as low as Carter's and is still dropping. right now 43%. now that isn't the deciding factor in the elections but it shows a lot of people are fed up with Obama. I'm not always for Republicans either. I like past democratic presidents such as Thomas Jefferson, John F. Kennedy(can't stand his brother Ted though),Bill Clinton(can't stand hillary though), and Lyndon B. Johnson.
Good reasons, but Obama is only just really getting to his core supporters. He still has them from 2008, but they're just in a bit lesser numbers. I think his approval rating is...average for what's happened in the past few months. I think people are fed up with him, but they're not a huge majority. They can't do anything other than say how much they hate him.
tHe_Jester1080
December 13th, 2011, 07:57 PM
Actually, I know for some reason he's very unpopular among you guys, but I really like Donald Trump. I think that after his contract with "The Apprentice" is up, he will announce his candicy. I think Trump will get most of the Independents plus a majority of the swing voters, not only that but rep. and dem. votes.The reason why the GOP candidates didn't want to go to his debate without him saying he wasn't running is because they're afraid of him.All in all though, this next election is very unpredictable.
Sugaree
December 13th, 2011, 11:44 PM
Actually, I know for some reason he's very unpopular among you guys, but I really like Donald Trump. I think that after his contract with "The Apprentice" is up, he will announce his candicy. I think Trump will get most of the Independents plus a majority of the swing voters, not only that but rep. and dem. votes.The reason why the GOP candidates didn't want to go to his debate without him saying he wasn't running is because they're afraid of him.All in all though, this next election is very unpredictable.
Even if Trump does get into the race, I think he won't last long. Did you even see the lashing he got at the Correspondents Dinner this past May by the President? He was put in his place. Trump should just stick to what he does best. Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich only made themselves the laughing stocks of the GOP by willfully bending down to kiss Donald's ring. It's not that I don't like Trump, I just think him running for President without having any type of experience in public office is just stupid.
antiabort
December 14th, 2011, 10:55 PM
why do you want him to win?
He is not a warmongering shit-tard like the other candidates. At first I liked Ron paul, but his ideas are simply too extreme.
Maxxie
December 16th, 2011, 12:25 AM
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As everyone's said before, Ron Paul or not at all.
Fucking seriously.
I'm a liberal and I like this guy.
But, of course he's not going to have a chance, because the Republican/Democratic dichotomy is so deeply ingrained in the heads of America that it's like a fucking football game watching these elections - instead of putting the person in office that actually has a BRAIN, and MORALS and ETHICS and what bloody have you - we get egregious orators who have no business running a lemonade stand, much less one of the strongest countries on the face of the earth.
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