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abdheuuuchjc
October 3rd, 2011, 10:15 PM
Do u believe in ghosts? I do science proves it "energy cannot be created nor destroyed" so when u die where does ur body's energy go. If u don't believe in ghosts ur ecking retarded

AppealToReason
October 3rd, 2011, 10:45 PM
I don't so I guess I'm retarded...

Amaryllis
October 3rd, 2011, 10:47 PM
There are 10 types of energy(that my crappy memory knows of)

-Chemical energy
-Nuclear energy
-Magnetic energy
-Electrical energy
-Thermal energy
-Radiant energy
-Mechanical energy
-Luminous energy
-Elastic energy
-Sound energy

Ghost energy? No. Spirit energy? No. Our brain is what makes our body do what we want it to. When our brain dies, we die. That's it. Our brain matter(along with all the neurotransmitters, testosterone, endorphins, blabla) disintegrate if we choose to be buried or whatever. Turns into fertiliser, tree grows.

So no, I don't think ghosts exists.

Anyway, we have enough real things to worry about.

abdheuuuchjc
October 3rd, 2011, 10:50 PM
There are 10 types of energy(that my crappy memory knows of)

-Chemical energy
-Nuclear energy
-Magnetic energy
-Electrical energy
-Thermal energy
-Radiant energy
-Mechanical energy
-Luminous energy
-Elastic energy
-Sound energy

Ghost energy? No. Spirit energy?
No. Our brain is what makes our body do what we want it to. When our brain dies, we die. That's it. Our brain matter(along with all
the neurotransmitters, testosterone, endorphins, blabla) disintegrate if we choose to be buried or whatever. Turns into fertiliser, tree grows.

So no, I don't think ghosts exists.dude we have chemical energy inside of us from food. So the energy we have just disappears? Newtons laws basically prove it

AppealToReason
October 3rd, 2011, 10:53 PM
If it was proven you wouldn't have to ask us if we believe in it or not...
Show me a link to a site that proves ghosts exists and I'll be a believer.

Amnesiac
October 3rd, 2011, 10:54 PM
dude we have chemical energy inside of us from food. So the energy we have just disappears? Newtons laws basically prove it

Well, this displays a complete lack of understanding of the process of decomposition.

CaptainObvious
October 3rd, 2011, 10:55 PM
Do u believe in ghosts? I do science proves it "energy cannot be created nor destroyed" so when u die where does ur body's energy go. If u don't believe in ghosts ur ecking retarded

that makes literally no sense. your body doesn't have any innate energy other than the chemical energy contained within (and rest energy too, if we want to be technical), and that energy is dissipated by decomposition after you die and are buried. or, if you're cremated, it's dissipated in a fire as if you were a piece of firewood.

you need to brush up on what the first law of thermodynamics actually means.

Amaryllis
October 3rd, 2011, 11:53 PM
dude we have chemical energy inside of us from food. So the energy we have just disappears? Newtons laws basically prove it

Lol. Sweetheart, when we eat, the food is transformed into chemical energy to give us fuel for our bodies. Now, when we die and decompose, that's... Damn, my science is failing me. Blank. Blank. Blank. Got it!

Now, this energy is either
1. Used
2. Stored
3. Transformed

Our bodies are made up of chemical energy, heat energy and electrical energy. The electrical energy becomes heat in your cells once your cells die(you're dead). Then heat energy just dissipates into the air. Bacteria, fungi, animals, bugs, they just break down your chemical energy and use it for themselves.

Tada!

RoseyCadaver
October 4th, 2011, 12:03 AM
Umm,I'm not sure how to respond to this one."Ecking retarded"?sighs

Yes,I personally believe there are ghost,not the ones that can walk or talk,but I do believe the mind remains present after death(for a limited amount of time).The brain remains active a few minutes after death,I think it's seven minutes?

I do think it is quite possible for the mind to leave an "imprint".I also think that brain =/= mind.Some people refuse to believe the mind and brain are two different and separate beings.My question is this,what controls the brain?Open your fingers,then close them.Of course your brain told your fingers to open and close,but who told your brain to make them open and close?Did you brain tell it's self to do it?

I think we(our minds) are non physical beings that are in control of some matter.I'm just not sure if our mind fades like our brain.All though,I'm not going to say it leaves its ghost(image) and that image can last forever.I sadly do not know if any science backs up my views on the mind.

Amaryllis
October 4th, 2011, 12:20 AM
My question is this,what controls the brain?Open your fingers,then close them.Of course your brain told your fingers to open and close,but who told your brain to make them open and close?Did you brain tell it's self to do it?

Your brain is controlled by a balance of enzymes that create neurones, hormones and whatnot.

It doesn't "control" your body, per say. If you broke your arm and you asked it to move, you wouldn't be able to because the neurotransmitters/neurological connections in your arm are whacked. You can't control your emotions in just a snap. That's why people have affirmations and "happy places" and whatnot. You just keep telling yourself a certain thing or to feel a certain way and it creates neurological pathways in your brain. That's why when you smile or laugh, you feel a little better because your brain's already made that connection.

Each cerebral hemisphere of your brain has a different function. The parietal lobe are the primary sensory areas. occipital lobes link images with stored memory. So say, I'm scared of my dad, when I see him, I'll be scared. Temporal lobes... I hear music. Ah, this is nice.

So your "mind"'s just... A mix of everything. This triggers this, triggers that. The hypothalamus controls emotions and whatnot. So that... Yeah you get what I mean.

I bet no one read that.

CaptainObvious
October 4th, 2011, 12:28 AM
I do think it is quite possible for the mind to leave an "imprint".I also think that brain =/= mind.Some people refuse to believe the mind and brain are two different and separate beings.My question is this,what controls the brain?Open your fingers,then close them.Of course your brain told your fingers to open and close,but who told your brain to make them open and close?Did you brain tell it's self to do it?

depends on whether or not you believe in free will. it is very hard for a lot of people not to believe in free will, but for those who do not, the answer would be that your brain made some deterministic decision based on various inputs and probabilities governed by the brain's internal structure. there is some evidence for this in that there is evidence that people's "decisions" are actually preceded by brain activity beforehand, suggesting that "free will" might in some ways be an illusion.

Fushigi
October 4th, 2011, 12:35 AM
hmm when i was a child i believed that there are ghost because i have seen one , but after that i haven't encountered one again . I changed my opinion about ghosts. I think they are just made by our imagination , fear , or because of the horror movies that we like to watch. :)

Sage
October 4th, 2011, 12:44 AM
Do u believe in ghosts? I do science proves it "energy cannot be created nor destroyed" so when u die where does ur body's energy go. If u don't believe in ghosts ur ecking retarded

By that logic, OP, the headache I get from reading posts from stupid, arrogant fuckwits will never leave me. I think you have an egregiously flawed understanding of the law of thermodynamics.

mike3_1
October 4th, 2011, 03:09 PM
Ghosts are like god, they are not proven to exist scientifically. Therefore I do not believe in them.

Korashk
October 4th, 2011, 03:26 PM
Do u believe in ghosts? I do science proves it "energy cannot be created nor destroyed" so when u die where does ur body's energy go. If u don't believe in ghosts ur ecking retarded
http://forum.nationstates.net/images/smilies/sm_facepalm.gif

Vonn
October 4th, 2011, 03:29 PM
Will this thread become as entertaining as the last one? And I don't believe in ghosts anymore, as appealing as the idea is.

Efflorescence
October 4th, 2011, 03:30 PM
image (http://forum.nationstates.net/images/smilies/sm_facepalm.gif)

What? you've read my mind...I was going to post this:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f5/HangmenHeaven/Response%20Face/vg17208_facepalm.png

Maxxie
October 4th, 2011, 03:30 PM
So, basically... the intelligent portion of the human population is ecking retarded.

embers
October 4th, 2011, 04:41 PM
I think this thread (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?p=1169604#post1169604) sums up my views quite nicely.

huginnmuninn
October 4th, 2011, 06:08 PM
WTF is an ecking retard????

is this what you meant to write "anybody who thinks this is logical is an f-ing retard" ?

Spreadingwings
October 4th, 2011, 06:10 PM
experament and question to anyone who cares, regarding this post- now then, If you will, please grab a friend and stare at em for approximately 30 seconds. My question is, what are those colors around or on your freinds body, (they are not hallucinations or pure stuff of only mind because we all can see them if we look hard enough). Simply speeking, to me I think that if you figure out this then you have figured out ghost.(mind you that the colors can also be seen on or around dead or nonliving things)

oh and disbelief is where discovery often yet not often happnens, it wasn't right to call people who don't believe retarded, that is the kind of closed minded opinion that I would think you to have of them. But I like your enthusiasm.

Sage
October 4th, 2011, 06:23 PM
experament and question to anyone who cares, regarding this post- now then, If you will, please grab a friend and stare at em for approximately 30 seconds. My question is, what are those colors around or on your freinds body, (they are not hallucinations or pure stuff of only mind because we all can see them if we look hard enough). Simply speeking, to me I think that if you figure out this then you have figured out ghost.(mind you that the colors can also be seen on or around dead or nonliving things).

Seeing isn't believing. Staring at many things will cause your eyes to see odd colors.

Spreadingwings
October 4th, 2011, 06:39 PM
true, but what if you see these colors in short time without staring at something for as long as a minute? (not including didital devices like tv.s) Also 2 things, can it not be that if ghosts were energy, that it could be some lower or higher form of the energy we humans and animals poses? Energy that is out of our range of sight most of the time?

and secondly, seeing is related to believing, it just depnds on whether or not you are willing to accept it entirely, or try to figure it out and find the truth.

Sage
October 4th, 2011, 06:43 PM
true, but what if you see these colors in short time without staring at something for as long as a minute?
Then you should get your eyes checked.

Also 2 things, can it not be that if ghosts were energy, that it could be some lower or higher form of the energy we humans and animals poses? Energy that is out of our range of sight most of the time?
What do you even mean by 'energy'?

and secondly, seeing is related to believing, it just depnds on whether or not you are willing to accept it entirely, or try to figure it out and find the truth.
No, it isn't. Seeing colors with your eyes is not evidence that people can continue 'living' in some form after death. It is evidence that your can see colors.

Spreadingwings
October 4th, 2011, 06:45 PM
did u read the rest?

oh wait srry didn't see your other stuff hold on

Efflorescence
October 4th, 2011, 06:46 PM
experament and question to anyone who cares, regarding this post- now then, If you will, please grab a friend and stare at em for approximately 30 seconds. My question is, what are those colors around or on your freinds body, (they are not hallucinations or pure stuff of only mind because we all can see them if we look hard enough). Simply speeking, to me I think that if you figure out this then you have figured out ghost.(mind you that the colors can also be seen on or around dead or nonliving things)

oh and disbelief is where discovery often yet not often happnens, it wasn't right to call people who don't believe retarded, that is the kind of closed minded opinion that I would think you to have of them. But I like your enthusiasm.

Um...I know that I'm going to sound stupid but truth is...I've never seen any of those colours around these persons.

BOSS
October 4th, 2011, 06:48 PM
Ghosts are as real as you and I.

Sage
October 4th, 2011, 06:49 PM
Ghosts are as real as you and I.

There is no evidence to suggest that.

Efflorescence
October 4th, 2011, 06:49 PM
Ghosts are as real as you and I.

HUH???? Why?

Spreadingwings
October 4th, 2011, 07:05 PM
srry I was typing what was in my mind, srry if what I said is kinda strange in writing I didn't really look over it that much.

Ok to clarify what I said

1: seeing colors as in aura, not the normal red on an apple kind of colors.

2: im saying what if ghost were just energy on a level that reacts to the light spectrum like electricity.

3: im not talking about the colors, im talking in general

thecanjump
October 4th, 2011, 07:06 PM
They are just as real as slenderman. I used to believe but I debunked all the reasons that I thought were proof a long time ago.

Spreadingwings
October 4th, 2011, 07:07 PM
There is no evidence to suggest that.

there was no evidence to suggest an atoms existence either.

They are just as real as slenderman. I used to believe but I debunked all the reasons that I thought were proof a long time ago.

just by curiosity, what reasons?

Um...I know that I'm going to sound stupid but truth is...I've never seen any of those colours around these persons.

it takes some practise to see, oh and the colors I'm talking about are called auras: energy fields that are held to emanate from a living beings.

Although, nonliving things have auras too, so auras might be a form of atomic energy emited by all things that have atoms.

Edit(Thor): Please don't double/tripple post. Use the 'Edit' or 'Multi-Quote' features of the site next time. Thanks.

Taylorxbox
October 4th, 2011, 08:46 PM
I believe in them. I mean havent you guys seen Ghost Adventures and Paranormal Activity??? LOL.

There was a story done by a local news station on a ghost in a man's house. It was in a town about 30 miles from me. The camera men set up cameras in the room and left while the man that owned house went about his regular nights. That night the camera caught some amazing footage. Like all of you said, a blue looking dot moved across the room. No big deal. Well after that happened, the chair in the corner was lifted up and moved across the room. Followed by that, a pillow from the bed was lifted up and moved around the room. There were some other events that followed. The camera men and the reporter came back the next day to interview the man and review footage. The owner said that the ghost has always moved things around and has always been with him. He says that the ghost does nothing at all to harm the owner and doesn't bother him. Sometimes though, the ghost gets overly excited and starts scaring the owner. He simply says "stop it, your scaring me" and all of it stops. He has lived with the ghost ever since he can remember.
This is a True story and none of it was played out. What was seen on TV, which was broadcasted all throughout South Dakota, was quite amazing. There was no way they played it out. It was a true story. I had always believed in ghosts but this really made me think. Think what you want, but I think they exist

Neptune
October 4th, 2011, 08:49 PM
I think there are ghosts. I'm not saying that they are all bad, some people are left on this planet to do something before they move on to whatever is next. unfinished business. I started to hear sounds in my house right after my sister died, the same house that my sister died in. So, yes, I think there are ghosts or atleast some type of the spirit still around.

I don't get involved in that stuff, whenever, I hear sounds - I just go straight up stairs in try to think of something else. I refuse to get involved in that stuff, it is scary stuff.

abdheuuuchjc
October 4th, 2011, 09:00 PM
Ghosts are like god, they are not proven to exist scientifically. Therefore I do not believe in them.

Do u believe in evolution? Almost all of science is theory. And theory isn't proven so you dint believe in science

Maxxie
October 4th, 2011, 09:02 PM
Do u believe in evolution? Almost all of science is theory. And theory isn't proven so you dint believe in science

Do you believe in the theory of gravity?

abdheuuuchjc
October 4th, 2011, 09:21 PM
WTF is an ecking retard????

is this what you meant to write "anybody who thinks this is logical is an f-ing retard" ?

Ecking is a habit I formed when I joined sum site and it wouldn't let u cuss so fuck -f u + e= eck so it means fucking

Do you believe in the theory of gravity?

Yes. I didn't say theory's weren't true. That guy said if u don't have proof it doesn't exist.

Sugaree
October 4th, 2011, 09:27 PM
Yes. I didn't say theory's weren't true. That guy said if u don't have proof it doesn't exist.

Well, yeah, you need proof to justify the existence of something. If I were to show you an apple and said that it existed based on how the seeds I planted grew into that apple, would you say I was wrong? If there is a substantial amount of proof, with little to no doubt as to the credibility of the proof, then something can be proven to exist. Ghosts have not been proven to exist because of the complexity of how the human mind perceives certain situations.

So you're saying that if a curtain randomly flung itself around, and there was no wind or motivating force in the room to make said curtain move, that it was the work of a ghost?

Maxxie
October 4th, 2011, 09:29 PM
Yes. I didn't say theory's weren't true. That guy said if u don't have proof it doesn't exist.

He said if it wasn't proven. Theories are proven statements and/or generalizations based on current empirical evidence and scientific observations. Proof implies a statement that needs to be proven beyond a doubt, so that no exceptions to the rule exist whatsoever and the proof is always valid - in that case, the proven statement would be a scientific law, or possibly a postulate.

abdheuuuchjc
October 4th, 2011, 09:39 PM
He said if it wasn't proven. Theories are proven statements and/or generalizations based on current empirical evidence and scientific observations. Proof implies a statement that needs to be proven beyond a doubt, so that no exceptions to the rule exist whatsoever and the proof is always valid - in that case, the proven statement would be a scientific law, or possibly a postulate.

Hb the THEORY of evolution. How did Darwin manage to prove it. Evolution is recognized as what really happened in the science community

Maxxie
October 4th, 2011, 09:41 PM
Hb the THEORY of evolution. How did Darwin manage to prove it. Evolution is recognized as what really happened in the science community

Recognized, but not proven beyond a doubt because we have never observed, in massively quantifiable quantities, that it follows the one rule that is postulated and there are no excepts, that the certain METHOD of evolution is true.

abdheuuuchjc
October 4th, 2011, 09:59 PM
Where did method come from. Where talking about theory

Amaryllis
October 4th, 2011, 10:17 PM
Ghosts are only as real as you make them out to be.

Evolution is recognized as what really happened in the science community
Not true. Not everyone in that community will tell you evolution is a fact. It's not what "really happened". It's what a large group of people believe happened because there is proof to back it up.

Ghosts? That's as real as Santa Claus.

Ghosts are as real as you and I.
You can touch, hear, see, smell and taste another human being.

abdheuuuchjc
October 4th, 2011, 10:23 PM
Ghosts are only as real as you make them out to be.


Not true. Not everyone in that community will tell you evolution is a fact. It's not what "really happened". It's what a large group of people believe happened because there is proof to back it up.

Ghosts? That's as real as Santa Claus.


You can touch, hear, see, smell and taste another human being.

$30 says u go to church monthly. The religious community has a hard time believing any science from evolution to the big bang mostly they do believe in it

Spreadingwings
October 4th, 2011, 10:23 PM
He said if it wasn't proven. Theories are proven statements and/or generalizations based on current empirical evidence and scientific observations. Proof implies a statement that needs to be proven beyond a doubt, so that no exceptions to the rule exist whatsoever and the proof is always valid - in that case, the proven statement would be a scientific law, or possibly a postulate.

In class I learned that a theory is an accepted idea with scientific evidence to support it, but not enough to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.

I also learned that a fact is an idea accepted beyond a reasonable doubt.

Sugaree
October 4th, 2011, 10:26 PM
$30 says u go to church monthly. The religious community has a hard time believing any science from evolution to the big bang mostly they do believe in it

Wow, what a sweeping generalization. You really are as bullheaded and arrogant as the people you're trying to prove wrong.

Spreadingwings
October 4th, 2011, 10:30 PM
Originally Posted by BOSS
Ghosts are as real as you and I.

You can touch, hear, see, smell and taste another human being.

Faith I don't understand, I can't touch, hear, see, smell or taste a ghost, but, I can do none of that with wind, atoms, or gases. don't they exist?

Amaryllis
October 4th, 2011, 10:31 PM
$30 says u go to church monthly.
What's a church?

I'm kidding, I'm not christian/catholic/protestant/anglican or whatever else.

Damn, my name sounds religious, doesn't it?

abdheuuuchjc
October 4th, 2011, 10:33 PM
Wow, what a sweeping generalization. You really are as bullheaded and arrogant as the people you're trying to prove wrong.

Quote the word mostly

Amaryllis
October 4th, 2011, 11:46 PM
Faith I don't understand, I can't touch, hear, see, smell or taste a ghost, but, I can do none of that with wind, atoms, or gases. don't they exist?

Are you being serious here? Because I'm pretty sure I can feel wind and I can smell gas. What do you smell when you hit the petrol station? Can't you smell whatever smell the wind brings?

Atoms...? You're playing with me here, aren't you? When was the last time you saw a periodic table? Is this a serious question? Dude! Zinc is an atom! Iron, copper, all the metals. You can't see, touch, smell them? You can't hear them when they clank together? As for oxygen... Lulz. I'll just put you in a room and suck out all the oxygen and carbon atoms, won't I? See how real they are. Sodium, that's an atom. I so cannot taste salt.

EDIT: I just realised you were quoting the real BOSS. Ohhh haha. Silly me. Sorry about that.
(Seriously, though. How did you get through 10 years of science?)

Genghis Khan
October 5th, 2011, 02:43 AM
Faith I don't understand, I can't touch, hear, see, smell or taste a ghost, but, I can do none of that with wind, atoms, or gases. don't they exist?

You've.. never smelled a gas before? Because I'm pretty sure, according to my humble experience on this planet, you can do that.

embers
October 5th, 2011, 11:57 AM
You've.. never smelled a gas before? Because I'm pretty sure, according to my humble experience on this planet, you can do that.

Especially if you hang around me.

Bath
October 5th, 2011, 02:44 PM
I used to believe in ghosts when I was little, and I even wanted to be a ghost hunter haha. I don't believe in them now.

RoseyCadaver
October 6th, 2011, 10:17 PM
I so cannot taste salt.


You can always taste me ;o.

I don't think seeing is everything,I do think there are some things out there.And rather or not the human mind is connected or detached from the brain,I still think in some form or way it will stay alive(at least for a while).

Of course this could just be my way of reassurance of what may become of me in the afterlife(other then rotting and being eaten by maggots).

Jordan1234
October 9th, 2011, 11:33 AM
I believe in spirits but in ghosts i dont

Maxxie
October 9th, 2011, 11:48 AM
I believe in spirits but in ghosts i dont

So, let me get this straight. You believe in one thing that is synonymous to another thing but don't believe in that other thing?

Interesting...

Kujiro
October 9th, 2011, 11:55 AM
Im not sure, but i would not say they do not exist.
Its just an entity which is not in touch with my 5 senses does not mean its not there i'd suppose..

But i believe not everything can be actually scientifically explained.

Jupiter
October 9th, 2011, 01:41 PM
Dang, I thought I had enough real things to worry about, but now....I'm an eckingretard.

Efflorescence
October 9th, 2011, 02:03 PM
Especially if you hang around me.

What....hydrogen sulfide? xD

embers
October 9th, 2011, 02:06 PM
What....hydrogen sulfide? xD

Among the other things I brew in my bowels, yes.

Love.Hate
October 9th, 2011, 04:15 PM
I honestly believe in them, mainly because as a child i was always read ghost stories by my dad.. i guess i have never really thought about it, just pursumed they exsisted.

Tristin.
October 9th, 2011, 04:23 PM
i believe in ghosts. I dont believe in a heaven per say so i like the idea of ghosts etc :)

Cybercode
October 9th, 2011, 04:25 PM
I used to believe in them when I was little, but honestly not anymore.

PureReality
October 9th, 2011, 07:47 PM
Do u believe in ghosts? I do science proves it "energy cannot be created nor destroyed" so when u die where does ur body's energy go. If u don't believe in ghosts ur ecking retarded

I believe in the supernatural; by the way, you do not do yourself a favor by saying, "If u don't believe in ghosts ur ecking retarded." You just make your own self look childish and disabled yourself. Respect others opinions, otherwise, you won't get respect from others for your own opinions.

But, how do people explain EMF phenomenons if spirits aren't real? I've had many experiences with the supernatural. :eek:

Amaryllis
October 9th, 2011, 09:16 PM
I've had many experiences with the supernatural. :eek:

Care to elaborate?

PureReality
October 9th, 2011, 11:24 PM
Care to elaborate?

When I first moved into the house that I'm living in now, a lot of stuff would happen.

Once, my brother and I were sitting in the living room, and the living room light was on, the hallway light was off. So, we were watching TV, and the living room light goes off, and the hallway light turns on as we actually heard footsteps. It wasn't a power-flash or anything, the switches had been switched down, and up for the hallway switch.

When I was around 8, I had a bestfriend named Chase (now lives in Hawaii) and his parents were close friends with mine. One day, his parents came over (I can never remember their names?) and Chase had came too, he came back in my room and we played WaveRunner on the Nintendo 64. He was real as day. He said he was going to go use the bathroom and that he'd be back. My dad and older brother, Lance, came back into my room and asked me if he was here, of course I answered yes, telling them he went to the bathroom. It turns out, he stayed home and was never actually there. My brother and dad had saw him too.

At my old house where my step mom and dad had lived, we had a schnauzer, his name was Max, and each time he'd jump on the corner of the bed, it would lean down on the corner. One day, Karen, my step mom was in bed and the bed was leaning down, so she went to look if Max was on the bed, and the bed was just leaning down, with Max not present. (This one sounds a bit sketchy, and I didn't actually see this - she had told me).

Probably a couple years ago, I was lying in bed, restless, and I felt frozen. I couldn't move. I saw this shadow-y figure like Scream hovering above me, and I was paralyzed. Maybe with fear, maybe not; told my mom about it, and she had a similar experience a few nights prior. I couldn't even scream for help.

When I moved back to my mom's like a year and a half ago, my brother wasn't home for the first night, and my bedroom had actually been converted into my baby niece's room since I had moved out. So, I slept in my brothers room. Around 2:30 AM, I literally heard someone going through my room (or baby niece's, should I say?) and rummaging through the closet - like big bangs and stuff. It was scary as hell. I had a breakdown I was so scared.

This was probably...6 months ago. I had real bad sleep paralysis one night. I was trying to lucid dream, and ended up having a nightmare, waking up and nearly having a stroke (heartbeat was literally high like no other) and I couldn't move, hence sleep paralysis. I told my mom, and she said my brother had woken up a few nights prior and he couldn't move and he heard his name being called. Of course, visual and sound hallucinations can happen during sleep paralysis so this one can be debunked.

About two months ago, my mom had woke up and she said a man was pulling at her finger, like so strong she thought it was going to break, and her finger was swollen that morning. It was her left hand, middle finger if I'm not mistaken. The next night, I slept and woke up, and my left hand, middle finger had a few tiny, scratch like scabs on it. Now, did I somehow scratch my finger in my sleep, or...?


I've noticed each time we do a home renovation project, things will begin to happen. It's weird.

Yeah, well those are a few of the things that have happened.

Also, when I first moved back to my Mom's, the night that I heard someone going through my bedroom, my godmother, godsister and I had gone 'ghost hunting' as we called it. It was a really odd, and eccentric night. Enjoyable but a little bit creepy - then I get home and THAT happens.

Funkapotamus
October 9th, 2011, 11:43 PM
Nah I don't believe. I think sometimes we'd like to believe there were, but I don't. And plus how weird would that be if they did exist? They'd be witnessing our odd habits and addictions.

Efflorescence
October 10th, 2011, 04:03 PM
Among the other things I brew in my bowels, yes.

That's disgusting. The things I brew in my bowels smell of flowers.:P

On topic:

Faith I don't understand, I can't touch, hear, see, smell or taste a ghost, but, I can do none of that with wind, atoms, or gases. don't they exist?


Well, you kind of do have a point when you say that certain gases cannot be smelled. However, gases can be liquefied, there are specific tests for them and when bubbled through water, effervescence can be seen so they do exist.

With regards to atoms, the scanning tunnelling microscope has allowed us to see surfaces at the atomic level and I suggest you search something about 'Brownain motion'.

That said, although I generally do not believe in ghosts, I cannot be certain. So if they tell me that a particular place is haunted, I surely won't go waltzing around there at night. The idea that if they exist, they might be able to hurt me without the possibility of me hurting them back is not pleasant at all..... so better safe than sorry.

theElder
October 10th, 2011, 07:20 PM
i do believe in ghosts alot of them though are actually weaker demons that escaped hell

AlmostHomeless
October 10th, 2011, 10:23 PM
Looks like the poll is pretty much split on this one. I don't believe in ghosts. I'm the kind of person who takes the simplest answer to a solution if there is no *concrete* evidence either way.

Jess
October 11th, 2011, 07:15 AM
I don't really believe in ghosts...never seen one...so yeah...:/

PureReality
October 11th, 2011, 07:08 PM
Looks like the poll is pretty much split on this one. I don't believe in ghosts. I'm the kind of person who takes the simplest answer to a solution if there is no *concrete* evidence either way.

But do you believe in God? There is no concrete evidence for him? I only believe in the supernatural because of my own experiences.

Dabigdtc
October 12th, 2011, 11:50 PM
i voted yes because like you said were does the energy go

SimplyTom
October 13th, 2011, 01:26 AM
nope i dont i think its a load of rubbish