Getting High: what do you think?

[ZzKingz]

In my opinion getting high is never the answer to life, but getting high responsibly is never a bad thing.

What do you think about the following types of highs? OK or not OK

Marijuana
Narcotics
Stimulants
Depressants
Meditation
Excercise
Music
Psychedelics

Here's my answer if you're wondering:

Marijuana: okay when used responsibly, and with friends it's alright
Narcotics: it's shitty for your body and extremely addictive. Don't do it
Stimulants: even caffeine sucks IMO
Depressants: nah. These can kill you anyway
Meditation: what I don't get is why this is any better than drugs. Last time I checked nobody has overdosed on this.
Exercise: it's good for you
Music: makes you high like pot does. And pot just enhances it
Psychedelics: this ones okay. I'd do LSD in a heartbeat, given the right circumstances.

[aperson444]

What do you think about the following types of highs? OK or not OK

Marijuana (Awesome, very therapeutic if used right and not very harmful)
Narcotics (Only opium, morphine, codeine, thebaine, no pharmies though)
Stimulants (They suck, they're annoyingly addictive and withdrawal is a pain in the ass)
Depressants (They suck and they don't do a whole lot)
Meditation (Whatever floats your boat. Never worked for me)
Excercise (It's alright)
Music (Good stuff)
Psychedelics (Very useful and intelligent trips if used right)

[Φρανκομβριτ]

Drugs feel different to each person who is taking them. Each reaction has an equal and opposite reaction.

I get what you're saying, and a lot of drugs out there are not as scary as they've been made out to be. They can actually be quite a social thing once in a while, but we still support the idea that Drugs cannot be OK'd or not

[AppealToReason]

Marijuana: No harm if used right. Not addictive for most people and it's a much safer option for getting high compared to other drugs...
Narcotics: Wouldn't mess with these.
Stimulants: Not all are bad. I believe caffeine is a stimulant, though I'm not sure if you can get high with it...Of course, I would still stay away from these.
Depressants: Wouldn't mess with these.
Meditation: Great. Can make you feel better & can be good for your health.
Exercise: Same as meditation.
Music: Awesome. Not sure if it's the same high as pot, though.
Psychedelics: Fine if used right.

[staying_alive]

Drugs feel different to each person who is taking them. Each reaction has an equal and opposite reaction.

I get what you're saying, and a lot of drugs out there are not as scary as they've been made out to be. They can actually be quite a social thing once in a while, but we still support the idea that Drugs cannot be OK'd or not

THIS. Also, about the equal/opposite reaction point, I think that's the issue when people first start doing drugs: it's not equal and opposite. You get high, and there's no "anti-high", or at least in my experience there isn't. Take alcohol: many people don't get hangovers for a while. They just have fun, enjoy drunkenness with no consequence. Then, later on, they start getting hangovers and realize that there IS an equal and opposite reaction for the great feeling.

Marijuana: No harm if used right. Not addictive for most people and it's a much safer option for getting high compared to other drugs...
Narcotics: Wouldn't mess with these.
Stimulants: Not all are bad. I believe caffeine is a stimulant, though I'm not sure if you can get high with it...Of course, I would still stay away from these.
Depressants: Wouldn't mess with these.
Meditation: Great. Can make you feel better & can be good for your health.
Exercise: Same as meditation.
Music: Awesome. Not sure if it's the same high as pot, though.
Psychedelics: Fine if used right.

RE: Marijuana - what is "used right"? How does one guarantee no harm if there's no concrete line? Weed is getting dangerous nowadays because there are so many different kinds and potencies. I read an article about how the weed today is much stronger than that used back in the 70s, and the THC content now can actually cause brain issues. I'll have to dig the link up.

I do agree however that getting high off weed is much safer than other things.

Caffeine high = shaking from too much caffeine. Definitely possible. These days, with all the pressure everyone is under, stimulant abuse is rampant. I'm thinking we'll see some major government intervention within the next 20-30 years.

[rockNroll]

You can't get high off of music. Fact.

[staying_alive]

You can't get high off of music. Fact.

What is your definition of a high? Music can trigger a dopamine release in your brain, which is the chemical that most substances mess with to create a high. Sure, music probably won't disorient you, but that's not what being "high" is.

[Ambrosia]

You can't get high off of music. Fact.

Lawl, sir, lawl.

In all honesty, the only "high" I ever get is from marijuana and these things called happy pills. I think it's fine as long as you do it responsibly and not too often. I know people who do it WAY too much, and abuse it. I do NOT agree with that.

[Aries]

I can't say much about the other drugs, but I've smoked marijuana a few times. It's a calming high for me, I feel weightless and happy. I've only done it about four times though, and that was back when I was a "bad" person. I haven't smoked it recently.

[staying_alive]

Lawl, sir, lawl.

In all honesty, the only "high" I ever get is from marijuana and these things called happy pills. I think it's fine as long as you do it responsibly and not too often. I know people who do it WAY too much, and abuse it. I do NOT agree with that.

:cool: :skeptical:

[aperson444]

RE: Marijuana - what is "used right"? How does one guarantee no harm if there's no concrete line? Weed is getting dangerous nowadays because there are so many different kinds and potencies. I read an article about how the weed today is much stronger than that used back in the 70s, and the THC content now can actually cause brain issues. I'll have to dig the link up.

One word: Auto-titration.

With cannabis, you can adjust the dose. There's also no evidence of neurotoxicity due to feasible doses of THC. You can 100% avoid harm by being conscious of what you're doing. The high concentrations have been around for ages. They have simply been hidden away in corners of the world like Afghanistan, Colombia and Thailand.

I feel that caffeine is much worse because a) It directly messes with the pleasure circuit b) It makes you very anxious c) It's highly addictive compared to marijuana, ecstasy and mushrooms d) It can have some pretty nasty withdrawal symptoms.

I've been very addicted to caffeine. It's not pretty. It might not cause dramatic withdrawal like heroin, but it is very irritating, painful and in my case, it makes me suicidal.

[Aries]

I have to agree. Caffeine is much worse than marijuana. I don't smoke it anymore (I just smoke regular cigarettes) but it was much better and pleasurable.

[AppealToReason]

I've been very addicted to caffeine. It's not pretty. It might not cause dramatic withdrawal like heroin, but it is very irritating, painful and in my case, it makes me suicidal.

Really? I guess I've never really been exposed to or actually knew much about caffeine withdrawal. Seems I was a bit lucky that I never felt addicted to it.
My fault for being ignorant about that.

[staying_alive]

One word: Auto-titration.

With cannabis, you can adjust the dose. There's also no evidence of neurotoxicity due to feasible doses of THC. You can 100% avoid harm by being conscious of what you're doing. The high concentrations have been around for ages. They have simply been hidden away in corners of the world like Afghanistan, Colombia and Thailand.

I feel that caffeine is much worse because a) It directly messes with the pleasure circuit b) It makes you very anxious c) It's highly addictive compared to marijuana, ecstasy and mushrooms d) It can have some pretty nasty withdrawal symptoms.

I've been very addicted to caffeine. It's not pretty. It might not cause dramatic withdrawal like heroin, but it is very irritating, painful and in my case, it makes me suicidal.

Yes, but with cannabis, one doesn't know how high the THC concentration in his weed is. That means that when smoking a bowl with friends, it can get out of control without warning signs. That's one of the pros to legalization of marijuana: weed is clearly marked with its concentration, like alcohol currently is.

I've bolded the problem with your argument. Consciousness is the problem with all drugs, because they alter one's perception of it. This altered perception leads to them doing things they wouldn't normally. And this is VERY possible when someone is high from weed.

I should clarify about the high concentrations: of course they've been around for ages. They had to come from somewhere. In my above post I was referring to the younger population, and how in the last decade we've seen an extreme increase in THC concentration in the weed that is sold to that generation.

Lastly, I completely agree about caffeine. Somewhat of a caffeine addict myself, I definitely see its dangers. However, society favors caffeine addiction because it allows us to be more productive. Weed does not do this, and thus is sometimes cast in an unreasonably bad light.

[aperson444]

You can get a rough estimate by how the weed looks. If you get a ground up, brown, dry, stemmy mix of seeds and leaves, it's obviously quite low THC/Total Cannabinoid. If you get a specific strain, you can first take a look at its appearance. The more amber trichomes, the more likely that there is a lot of CBD (essentially "immature" THC). Smell, feel and density are also good indicators. I think legalization would make the situation much better and far safer though, however there's no real harm in having high THC concentrations (you're never going to get a concentration above 25-28%).

[Magenta]

Marijuana: I wouldn't do it 'cause I have issues with the smell but I think it's fine.
Narcotics: Ehh.
Stimulants: Depends on what it is, health risks involved but I think it's fine if you're responsible.
Depressants: These are not something I'd play with.
Meditation: I'd highly recommend this. It's actually really good for you and very relaxing.
Exercise: See above.
Music: Haha, I'm a music fanatic so I'm all for this one.
Psychedelics: Same as stimulants.

[Sacraficialsteak]

Nitrous Oxide (N²O) otherwise known as happy gas...nuff said

[PureReality]

In my opinion getting high is never the answer to life, but getting high responsibly is never a bad thing.

What do you think about the following types of highs? OK or not OK


Here's my answer if you're wondering:

Marijuana: okay when used responsibly, and with friends it's alright
Narcotics: it's shitty for your body and extremely addictive. Don't do it
Stimulants: even caffeine sucks IMO
Depressants: nah. These can kill you anyway
Meditation: what I don't get is why this is any better than drugs. Last time I checked nobody has overdosed on this.
Exercise: it's good for you
Music: makes you high like pot does. And pot just enhances it
Psychedelics: this ones okay. I'd do LSD in a heartbeat, given the right circumstances.

Marijuana - A 100% yes, okay. Completely natural, no serious risks.
Narcotics - No way.
Stimulants - OK to an extent.
Depressants - No point in them, they aren't fun.
Meditation - Very beneficial to the mind, body, and soul.
Excercise - Once again, very beneficial to the mind, body, and soul.
Music - Depends on what kind - can be beneficial to the mind and soul
Psychedelics - LSD = no. Risks are not worth it. Shrooms = safe and natural, yes. :yeah:

[Rubber]

Marijuana- Its nice to smoke a bit once in a blue moon. Only do it every few months now.
Narcotics- Heh... NO
Stimulants-No
Depressants- Love that lq. :)
Meditation- Doesnt work for me
Excercise- Yah, love being in the zone when working out
Music- that possible??
Psychedelics- Not in this lifetime... Only a 2% chance i would ever do shroom as well

and FYI to ppl some ppl who answered before, yes, alcohol is considered a depressant.

[Victor]

Marijuana- Only when used for medical purposes, but i think its fucking gross, even ciggarets and pot are just fucked up.
Narcotics Nup, nothing, a drugs a drug
Stimulants- Only caffiene and energy drinks (although i dont like either)
Depressants- I dont know too much about them..maybe no?
Meditation- Its never good overdosing on medication, a good doctor wouldnt advise that
Excercise- It's good, but doing too much at the same time can be harmfull
Music- Nup (:
Psychedelics- never heard of it.

[ZzKingz]

Compared to alcohol, many of these drugs are very safe actually. Of course there are still a few I would never mess with. I guess the main difference with most drugs compared to alcohol is the legality and acceptability. Here, I'll list them from harmless to horrible according to my own opinion.

Ecstasy. It's very very safe as long as you have water handy.
Salvia. It's harmless and legal
Marijuana. It's obviously very safe but evidence to support it's harmlessness is a bit sketchy
LSD. It really can't hurt you in any way, but there's an inherent risk of a bad trip and going to jail for it, which is stupid.
Shrooms. Same as LSD, but with an added risk of getting the wrong kind...
Caffeine. This one just sucks in my opinion because it makes me so anxious. But whatever
Other psychedelics
Inhalants
Amphetamines
Depressants other than alcohol. They can, like, stop your brain :(
Alcohol. This shit is bad! If it were a recently invented drug it would undoubtedly be illegal.
Cocaine
Crack
Meth
Heroin