Is Masturbation A Sin?

[Captain-Tybo]

What are your thoughts? Is it a sin? I don't want to upset God and if it is, i'll stop. I read a few pages but i'm getting mixed views here. What's your oppinion?

[DanielJoe]

Well, read these scriptures in your Bibe and make a decision for yourself... Collosians 3:5---1 Thessalonians 4:4,5---Proverbs 5:8,9---Psalm 119:37---Philipians 4:8... let me know what you think.

[Cybercode]

I'm a Christian and I masturbate. But I refuse to look at porn while doing it, only because it's basically like masturbating with that person in the picture or video. I know I would be kind of creeped out if there were people masturbating to a picture of me being naked. The best I can say is do your business and then ask Him for forgiveness.

[lilj231]

I believe it's not,but why would God create something if he didn't want us to do it.If Adam and Eve having sex isn't a sin,then masturbation isn't just common sense.

[DerBear]

If you are a cristian (im not) but I read the bible and it says something like "it is better for your seed to be in the belly of a whore than on the ground".

Thats the only thing I have found.

So yes in truth but only truth of the bible it is a sin

I feel we make our own choices in life

[smithjohn2]

Ooooh. I'm not big with religion stuff, BUT in any case....

Do what you want. I never really thought that religion would take over my choices, for example; Should I go to the party or not? God thinks it's better if I stay home and study.

Well, to tell you the truth, I agree with God. lol. But all I'm saying is that don't let those things take over what you want to do/need to do.

[Eclipsical]

youre not supposed to 'spill seed" so technically anytime you bust a nut and it's not fertilizing an egg it's a sin....I wouldn't worry about it:-p

[acurasrock]

Keep spilling your seed, If God didn't want us to masturbate, then he wouldn't have given us arms that were long enough to do the deed. It's not a Sin, keep on jacking and enjoy life more, it's a necessary thing!

[Tonebone88]

Technically the bible says you shouldn't masturbate, but you cant take everything it says literally. The bible also says something about it being a sin to shave your beard, but people do that.

[Electra Heart]

I've read that it is and im Catholic... i do it anyway :D

[StoppingTime]

Technically the bible says you shouldn't masturbate, but you cant take everything it says literally. The bible also says something about it being a sin to shave your beard, but people do that.

This is incorrect. There are certain ways you are allowed to shave your beard.

Anyway, yes, masturbation is a sin according to the Bible. Im not telling you what to believe, but that is a fact, you are "spilling the seed".

[bieloruso]

Well mate, as I see it, it's a sin NOT to do it :) but to each its own
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[NomSan]

Murder is a sin, masturbation is not.

[Lego]

Well if masturbations a sin 99% of men may be going to hell.

[ThaRealistAjP]

Well it depends on u. I'm a Christian in all, but I'm going to still Masturbate no matter what.

[Neptune]

As I really don't practice Christianity anymore, my opinions may not matter to you. But this is what I've basically got from reading and talking to people. The act of masturbating isn't bad, the stroking and cumming. But the watching porn or thinking about sex while masturbating IS wrong. That's just my opinions though.

[zackboy]

I don't think it's a sin, I think it's a normal thing for everyone who want to do it.

[Donkey]

P101 -> Ramblings of the Wise

[jurisprudent]

Well, there are some cases that masturbation comes under 'Lust', which makes it one of the 7 deadly sins, atleast that's what I've been taught in elementary school.

So, yah, IMO, it depends.

[Peace God]

why would God create something if he didn't want us to do it.
Obviously he creates things that he doesn't want us to do. Sins wouldn't exist at all if he didn't. Remember, this is the same guy that invented forbidden fruit.

[Jupiter]

The best I can say is do your business and then ask Him for forgiveness.

You shouldn't have to ask for forgiveness. I try to be more like Jesus for everything, a true Christian would also. Please don't take this the wrong way.

I believe it's not,but why would God create something if he didn't want us to do it.If Adam and Eve having sex isn't a sin,then masturbation isn't just common sense.


God didn't make it. Humans did. And, Adam and Eve were married.

Please don't double post; instead edit your first post. I've merged both of your posts together. -Jon/Donkey

[Cenacena]

Honstly i think this habit is sin so try to avoid it

[salty]

Not a sin. Premarial sex is a sin in my opinion

[Amaryllis]

No. Masturbation releases chemicals that make you feel good. It's something that gives you pleasure without hurting you or anyone else. If masturbation was a sin, sex would be as well. What's wrong with touching yourself? If someone else can touch you, why can't you? No one's died from masturbating once in a while, unless you're like that brazillion boy who died due to masturbating 42 times in a row. Other than that though, I see no reason why it would be a sin.

[Boxerbriefs96]

I could care less and not much can make me stop pleasuring myself to total ecstasy.

[TheMatrix]

Well, looks like we've lured a bunch of P101ers here :P

Anyways, it really depends on what you believe in. If you think it's a sin, well, then don't do it. Otherwise, go ahead and do whatever ;)

Just keep in mind that Man created God, and therefore, all you are really doing is following the rules laid out by the people, a long time ago.

[StoppingTime]

Not a sin. Premarial sex is a sin in my opinion
Well, looks like we've lured a bunch of P101ers here :P
I take that as an offense :P

Why are these different? They are both written as sins in the Bible.

[Lego]

Is masturbation not premarital sex anyways ? Well a form

[Amaryllis]

Is masturbation not premarital sex anyways ? Well a form

Can you screw yourself?

[jurisprudent]

Can you screw yourself?

In a way, yes.

[Wicked_Syn]

If masturbation is a sin, then I will be going to the deeeeep fiery pits of Hell

[StoppingTime]

Is masturbation not premarital sex anyways ? Well a form

No. Just. No. Its "spilling seed in vain".

[Maxxie]

So if..
God was there from the very beginning
he invented men and women
then he invented wanking
then he said wanking was sinning.
So if I'm feeling randy,
I'm not allowed to hand-shandy,
but having sex with my family,
that is just fucking great.
It's all there in Ezekiel 8. (Actually, probably not. The writer just needed a word to fit the rhythm)

Interpret the Bible how you may, masturbation is not morally, physically, or socially corrupting to anyone or anything unless you get an addiction to it. And basing your views off of addiction is like saying chocolate is evil and corrupt because it can cause addiction. So.... no.

[StoppingTime]

So if..
God was there from the very beginning
he invented men and women
then he invented wanking
then he said wanking was sinning.
So if I'm feeling randy,
I'm not allowed to hand-shandy,
but having sex with my family,
that is just fucking great.
It's all there in Ezekiel 8. (Actually, probably not. The writer just needed a word to fit the rhythm)

Interpret the Bible how you may, masturbation is not morally, physically, or socially corrupting to anyone or anything unless you get an addiction to it. And basing your views off of addiction is like saying chocolate is evil and corrupt because it can cause addiction. So.... no.

First off, you cant have sex with your immediate family. And no, its not physically wrong. Its just whether you believe in the Bible.

[HaydenM]

well according to the bible yes, it is a sin to "spill your seed" what you do with that knowledge is yours to decide

[Clawhammer]

This matter is between you and Him. It's not so much the action, in my mindset, as the attitude behind it. Why do you do it?

[embers]

This matter is between you and Him. It's not so much the action, in my mindset, as the attitude behind it. Why do you do it?

It feels fucking insane, man. Why don't you do it?

[MysticalBurrito]

Can you screw yourself?

*Sigh* I've tried, it doesn't work.
But on the topic, I don't believe that it's a sin itself. I think that if a person were to be...Obsessive about it, in a way, it could be wrong. Porn on the other hand *might* be immoral to some people. No pun intended. Just matters who you talk to, it doesn't exactly say it's bad in the bible but it does say to flee from sexual immorality and the last time I heard porn is slightly immoral. Just slightly.

[Simon.]

I believe it's not,but why would God create something if he didn't want us to do it.If Adam and Eve having sex isn't a sin,then masturbation isn't just common sense.

Good and evil. You have to make a counterpart to everything.

[Angel Androgynous]

Good and evil. You have to make a counterpart to everything.

So.... in what way is masturbation evil again?


Is having wet dreams evil too?

[Peace God]

Is having wet dreams evil too?
Wet dreams are like God jacking you off in your sleep.

[Angel Androgynous]

Wet dreams are like God jacking you off in your sleep.

God is a molester. :eek:

[StoppingTime]

So.... in what way is masturbation evil again?


Is having wet dreams evil too?

First off, I wouldn't call it evil, its a sin. Its spilling semen in vain, which is forbidden.

And having wet dreams is not "evil", or not a sin.

[Simon.]

First off, I wouldn't call it evil, its a sin. Its spilling semen in vain, which is forbidden.


It looks like a venial sin. Masturbation is not always spilling semen in vain, there can be reasons for it. Forbidden? Strong words there for a venial sin.

[Infidelitas]

First off, I wouldn't call it evil, its a sin. Its spilling semen in vain, which is forbidden.

And having wet dreams is not "evil", or not a sin.

So, relieving pressures and stress is a sin? Because that is what most people do it for...

[Joe1996]

In my personal opinion, it is not a sin. I do not believe in God, but I won't make this biased.

Masturbation is a VERY common thing, even with religious people. You could check the puberty forum on this site, it's full of people saying they masturbate. But not only teenagers do it, adults do too.

Ok, so masturbation is common, but that doesn't say weather it's a sin or not.
I would say AT LEAST 60% of all people have or do masturbate (that's just a rough guess) Those people haven't been punished.

I'm gay and I masturbate, now, apparently they are 2 things that are sins. I don't get bad luck, I live a good life, and I'm a happy person.
So, in my opinion.. No it's not a sin to masturbate.

[Bath]

Technical terms, masturbation is a sin because it involved lust, and lust is one of the seven deadly sins. There really isn't any arguing. In Christian/catholic religions, lust = bad. Jerking off/fingering yourself involves LUST. So.

Good thing I'm not religious. :yeah:

[HaydenM]

Technical terms, masturbation is a sin because it involved lust, and lust is one of the seven deadly sins. There really isn't any arguing. In Christian/catholic religions, lust = bad. Jerking off/fingering yourself involves LUST. So.

Good thing I'm not religious. :yeah:


^^ Exactly ^^

The problem with this thread and many other regarding religion is that it is all interpretation (which is religion anyway). If you read the bible it says that it is a sin to spill your seed in vain. Pretty much it means got didn't give you a penis or a vagina to play with he gave it to you to make more brainwashed religious followers (hello to the catholic church :P ). I do not believe in the bible and therefore I do not think it is 'wrong'. But to the OP's question, yes, it is a sin to masturbate.

[SenorGrand]

NO it is not a sin mr silly person. if it was, then EVERYONE would go to hell. it may feel like a sort of "oh no?! what have i done!?!" type of thing after you're finished, but there's nothing wrong with it- and if you really wanted to know, then check the bible- or whatever book you happen to read from

[StoppingTime]

NO it is not a sin mr silly person. if it was, then EVERYONE would go to hell. it may feel like a sort of "oh no?! what have i done!?!" type of thing after you're finished, but there's nothing wrong with it- and if you really wanted to know, then check the bible- or whatever book you happen to read from

What exactly is the point to this?

According to the bible it is forbidden. Your post has nothing to do with the debate.

[HaydenM]

NO it is not a sin mr silly person. if it was, then EVERYONE would go to hell. it may feel like a sort of "oh no?! what have i done!?!" type of thing after you're finished, but there's nothing wrong with it- and if you really wanted to know, then check the bible- or whatever book you happen to read from

no it is a sin, what is to say we cannot all go to hell

[User Deleted]

But does it not seem odd to anyone that a god would decree masturbation a sin? I mean honestly...

As Aroura said, It can be to relive stress.

It can be out of sheer boredom.

Peer pressure; as bizarre as this one seems I'm sure it happens.

If the only reason it is "bad" is because of lust I want a better explanation than "Just because." As I have been getting that so much lately, and have to pressure people out of it, I am just saying that preemptively.

[Sacraficialsteak]

One of the idiots/smart asses in my compulsory Religious studies class *GROAN*, asked this question, and we got the answer of - "It is a sin, because it is classified as adultery"
This doesnt help the thread but I'm just saying...

[Perseus]

One of the idiots/smart asses in my compulsory Religious studies class *GROAN*, asked this question, and we got the answer of - "It is a sin, because it is classified as adultery"
This doesnt help the thread but I'm just saying...

Whoever said that is a dumbass considering adultery is between a married and unmarried (or married) person.

Masturbation in of itself is not a sin, but if you have lust while doing it, yeah, it is. But I don't give a fuck since I'm atheist.

[HaydenM]

YES IT IS, read the bible (and this is coming from an avid athiest) the bible states explicitly that to waste your seed, aka to cum without being in the act of vaginal intercourse is a SIN.

[DanielJoe]

The Bible says "Deaden, therefore, your body members that are on the earth as respects fornication, uncleanness, sexual appetite, hurtful desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. On account of those things the wrath of God is coming" (Col 3:5,6) Look it up... anyway, mmasturbating arouses sexual appetite. God provided wet dreams as a way of releasing the sperm, and not arousing those desires. In verse 6 it says it is a sin... u do the math

[Perseus]

YES IT IS, read the bible (and this is coming from an avid athiest) the bible states explicitly that to waste your seed, aka to cum without being in the act of vaginal intercourse is a SIN.
That means pulling out. You have to read the context.
The Bible says "Deaden, therefore, your body members that are on the earth as respects fornication, uncleanness, sexual appetite, hurtful desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. On account of those things the wrath of God is coming" (Col 3:5,6) Look it up... anyway, mmasturbating arouses sexual appetite. God provided wet dreams as a way of releasing the sperm, and not arousing those desires. In verse 6 it says it is a sin... u do the math

That doesn't even make sense. Wet dreams are usually sexual in nature.

[DanielJoe]

its normal to have 'erotic' dreams... you can't control that, unless you concentrate on dreaming about those things. Hence, deadening your body members as respects sexual appetite... when you masturbate your not thinking of "daisies in the field", you're thinking of having sex with that hot girl next door, Paul said "But I say to you everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery in his heart." Matthew 5:28 by controlling these emotions, we stay away from this sin.

[Perseus]

its normal to have 'erotic' dreams... you can't control that, unless you concentrate on dreaming about those things. Hence, deadening your body members as respects sexual appetite... when you masturbate your not thinking of "daisies in the field", you're thinking of having sex with that hot girl next door, Paul said "But I say to you everyone that keeps on looking at a woman so as to have a passion for her has already committed adultery in his heart." Matthew 5:28 by controlling these emotions, we stay away from this sin.

Your subconscious mind is still quelling that sexual appetite. To say wet dreams are not the equivalent of masturbation in terms of sexual arousal is just silly. You're still having an orgasm to something that is erotic to you.

[DanielJoe]

there's a difference... 1. you control masturbating 2. you cant control wet dreams

[Perseus]

there's a difference... 1. you control masturbating 2. you cant control wet dreams

It still is your subconscious mind controlling it. You still want it, regardless if you can't control it.

[Spi_vey]

Listen apparently this Jesus fella will burn you in a pit for any number of things. I don't remember Masturbation being a topic in Catholic school but I wouldn't be surprised if it too was on the list.

Just live your life and don't be scared about what invisible people will do too you. The physical ones are the ones to be scared of.

[Blank]

Yes, it is a sin. Many people will tell you it isn't. What I suggest is to give Jesus a chance. True freedom from sin will be unlike anything you've every experienced.

Matthew 5:28
but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

God wishes for us to be pure because He loves us. He only wishes the best for us. He is our Father and therefore it is only right that He decides what is right and what is wrong, not us. He will no doubt get upset when you go against Him. Say for example, a child hits another child, surely any sane parent will do what they can to correct their child.

Lust only blinds our eyes from the true pleasures of life. There are so many other things that we can do that will be a lot more fulfilling than constantly eyeing people with lust. I once burned with lust too, I watched porn nearly every other day and masturbated too. I still struggle with both these actions, but to a much lesser extent. When you are willing to let go of things in life, God fills the space that is left behind with his blessing. I am a more confident person now, I can put in more effort into my school work and for exercise too now that I'm spending much less time on masturbation.

God loves you, bless all of you

[Love.Hate]

I think its all about how you see it yourself. I guess its only your opinion that matters.

I dont see it as a "sin" because so many people do it, it is a natural human behaviour. Why would God give us this ability if he didnt want us to use it basically.

[Genghis Khan]

Why would God give us this ability if he didnt want us to use it basically.

He's allowed us to do a lot of things he'd prefer we wouldn't do. Like... sin and other good stuff.

[Bath]

I think its all about how you see it yourself. I guess its only your opinion that matters.

I dont see it as a "sin" because so many people do it, it is a natural human behaviour. Why would God give us this ability if he didnt want us to use it basically.

Yeah, the reason we can sin and do "bad things" is because of Satan. According to Christianity, we were made perfect, but then Eve ate the stupid fruit or whatever, and unleashed sin upon humanity. But I never understood that.

Like... if God can't stop the 'evil', then he isn't all-powerful. Which is stupid, cause then he's not a God. But if he can stop it, and he just isn't, I wouldn't want him to be my God... you know?

[Love.Hate]

Yeah, the reason we can sin and do "bad things" is because of Satan. According to Christianity, we were made perfect, but then Eve ate the stupid fruit or whatever, and unleashed sin upon humanity. But I never understood that.

Like... if God can't stop the 'evil', then he isn't all-powerful. Which is stupid, cause then he's not a God. But if he can stop it, and he just isn't, I wouldn't want him to be my God... you know?

If I'm honest I got lost somewhere in that second paragraph, but I think I get your main drift.

I agree, God is supposed to be omnipotent (all powerful) but he can't control evil. Then again nobody's perfect, not even God. I don't know why we expect him to do so much.

Back to topic, it's only a sin if you think it is.. Well that's my opinion.

[StoppingTime]

. Why would God give us this ability if he didnt want us to use it basically.

Because He is testing us to see if we do the right thing.

[Love.Hate]

Because He is testing us to see if we do the right thing.

Who differentiated what's wrong and right, God? How do you know what classes as sins or doesn't? I think it's all down to opinion

I believe God has given you control of your life, so I honestly don't see anything wrong with it

[Jean Poutine]

brainwashed religious followers (hello to the catholic church )

Yeah we're all brainwashed religious followers.

I've met many atheists who were very much the equal of the worst Catholic bigot I know of.

God gave us free will and keeps setting up imaginary barriers to this free will. The irony is laughable, but that's not the only ironic thing in the Bible.

It's a sin if you want it to be. Nothing more. I'm all for the hippie crap in the Bible like "love thy neighbor" and "thou shall not kill" but the Bible was written by men with a cultural bias that is very different from ours. I'm of the opinion that nothing in the book is meant to be taken without several grains of salt. Take what you will from the Bible and leave the crap that does not apply to modern society alone.

<silly crap>

QUERY : is masturbation a sin?
HYPOTHESIS : no, it is not.
PROOF ELEMENT #1 : "But Jesus said, Suffer the little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for to such belongeth the kingdom of heaven." Matthew 19:14
MEANING : Heaven is open to those who have a childlike mentality/are as innocent as children.
PROOF ELEMENT #2 : Freud reported in Three Essays on the Theory of Sexuality that young children already begin to explore sexuality, and that many such children masturbate (such as toddler girls rubbing their genitals on pillows and such.)
MEANING : children feel the urge to masturbate and act on it.
CONCLUSION : masturbating is not a sin and wins you Heaven!

</silly crap>

[StoppingTime]

Who differentiated what's wrong and right, God? How do you know what classes as sins or doesn't? I think it's all down to opinion

I believe God has given you control of your life, so I honestly don't see anything wrong with it

God does give you control of your life. I define what is right and wrong by what's written in the Bible (Torah, I'm Jewish....)

[TayTay]

Masterbation is a sin no matter how much you sugar coat it. You can make excuses but it isn't a morally clean thing to do.

[kukachoo42]

if masturbation is a sin, then i'm going to hell.

[PureReality]

What are your thoughts? Is it a sin? I don't want to upset God and if it is, i'll stop. I read a few pages but i'm getting mixed views here. What's your oppinion?

No, I don't think it is. It is natural. During puberty, we all get urges and these are completely natural. Now, apparently, God is all understanding and forgiving - so hypothetically speaking, he should understand and forgive *if* it is considered a sin. Personally, I don't believe that God should rule your life. Rule your life with God.

Masterbation is a sin no matter how much you sugar coat it. You can make excuses but it isn't a morally clean thing to do.

How is it not a morally clean thing to do? Is sex a morally clean thing to have? I'm a pretty moral person but completely disagree with that statement. It is completely natural. Everyone will masturbate atleast once in their life (if not a hundred times more). It's not like having sex, it's just like doing something for yourself that is a big stress reliever.

Please do not double-post. Use the "Edit" button next time. ~Thomas

[StoppingTime]

No, I don't think it is. It is natural. During puberty, we all get urges and these are completely natural. Now, apparently, God is all understanding and forgiving - so hypothetically speaking, he should understand and forgive *if* it is considered a sin. Personally, I don't believe that God should rule your life. Rule your life with God.

God does forgive us, at times. For example, if someone masturbates every day, and repents every day right after, that really isn't showing anything...

[PureReality]

God does forgive us, at times. For example, if someone masturbates every day, and repents every day right after, that really isn't showing anything...

Well, like I said - I don't consider it a sin; it's natural, and completely normal. But, yeah, you do have a point, if you don't try and stop committing a sin it truly doesn't show anything, haha. It isn't necessarily considered 'lust' unless you are watching porn or thinking lustful things while masturbating.

[Jean Poutine]

I don't understand why this is even being debated while stoning adulterous women or homosexuals isn't. I mean I'd assume everyone here is against stoning gays, but we've still got these fundamentalists trying to con us into guilt for fapping.

Truth of the matter is that written texts do not evolve with time, while knowledge and culture does. Do the right thing, adapt the Bible to our time and pick and choose the relevant parts from it. As it has been made abundantly clear that a sexual life is a part of healthy living, and that you can hardly indulge that need with thin air, the part of the Bible relating to spilled seed and such should just be struck down from the records. It only gets more stupid with time.

"Every part is placed by God exactly where He wants it. It functions best when it is where he placed it and performing its duty." 1 Corinthians 12:18

[Blank]

Like... if God can't stop the 'evil', then he isn't all-powerful. Which is stupid, cause then he's not a God. But if he can stop it, and he just isn't, I wouldn't want him to be my God... you know?


God can stop evil. But so do we, albeit to a much lesser extent. Because we were made in God's image. I do understand that you are not a Christian, but hear me out.

A child stumbles and falls, he starts bleeding. It is only natural that he starts crying for his parents to carry him back up on his feet. This however, doesn't take away from the fact that the child has the ability to stand up on his own.

God wants us to pick ourselves up because he has given us the ability to choose.

It'd be meaningless if our parents ironed out every single rough patch in our lives. We'd learn nothing. It is only through struggling with sin where we do learn from our mistakes. There's a tired old saying 'failure is the mother of success.'

God forgives no matter how many times you fall. If He expects man to be patient, then surely the Almighty God has limits beyond our imagination. All He wishes for you to do is to try.

God bless.

[Rawwwrr]

I don't think God exists sooo... there we go!

On a more serious note:


It is a biological urge to masturbate. It's healthy: it's actually good for your body. Teenage males get incredibly angsty if they don't masturbate. Your testosterone levels increase by 73% if you don't masturbate for a week. Why not do it, is the real question.

[supadupahitz]

The bible? Is that the cute little book of fictional short stories that everyone talks about?

[Amnesiac]

Masterbation is a sin no matter how much you sugar coat it. You can make excuses but it isn't a morally clean thing to do.

This is a completely invalid and ignorant thing to say. "Morals" are subjective, and just because it goes against your moral code doesn't make it bad for everybody. I hate the fact that we live in a society where people bitch about how things aren't "morally clean". Who gives a fuck if it is? It's nobody's business what actions people partake in, moral or not.

[Genghis Khan]

Masterbation is a sin no matter how much you sugar coat it. You can make excuses but it isn't a morally clean thing to do.

yeah man ew masturbation sux sticky gooey likwid nt rite 4 me

[Nexus]

We are imperfect creatures and the bible is vague and inconsistent. It's a recipe for disaster ultimately.

Nobody is flawlessly subservient to their faith and anyone who claims to be is a liar.

[kenoloor]

Yes, it is a sin. Just like wearing more than one fabric. Touching a woman on her period. Letting your cows graze with other cows. Getting piercings or tattoos. Being uncircumcised. Shaving. All of those: ticket to hell.

[superstarB]

i just have this to say,

if it was a sin would god have wanted a way to get rid of sperm like sex, of course not if he didn't then i wouldn't really be a sin if he made masturbation, this argument is also like if its bad to like the same sex, if god didnt like it would he make it happen. all i have to say on this matter

[BFG9001]

i just have this to say,

if it was a sin would god have wanted a way to get rid of sperm like sex, of course not if he didn't then i wouldn't really be a sin if he made masturbation, this argument is also like if its bad to like the same sex, if god didnt like it would he make it happen. all i have to say on this matter

This.

[Jupiter]

Yes, but so is lying. All sins are equal. So..

[BFG9001]

So, if I fap or lie, it's the same thing as blowing up an orphanage?

[Jupiter]

yes. all sins are equal.

[BFG9001]

Seriously?

[kenoloor]

But your sins have been forgiven. Remember that guy who died on a cross? Yeah, he died to forgive humankind's sins. So no worries.

[Maxxie]

So, popping in for a shag with my hands is hellishly worse than sticking my penis in a vagina? Sure, let's go with that.

No, masturbation isn't morally clean, of course not? Well, not if you don't use a tower. Then stuff just gets messy.

[Ambrosia]

7And Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the sight of the LORD; and the LORD slew him.
8And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto thy brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother.
9And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother.
10And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also.

In that passage, Onan "spills his seed upon the ground" rather than give it to his brother's wife. She's not a whore; she was just following the practice of the day by marrying her brother-in-law after the death of her husband. It's called "levirate marriage".

I'm just sayin. There's nothing in the bible about spilling seeds in a whore.
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It may be a sin, but since when do humans not sin? Last time I checked, we sin everyday.

[StoppingTime]

yes. all sins are equal.

Not always true.

And the law is derived from the story of Onan, who did not practice masturbation, but a form of birth control, (pulled out as to not impregnate her.)

[GabAngel06]

"Sixth commandment: Thou shall not commit adultery."

Do you, honestly, think masturbation is not a form of adultery?

[JournalDreamer]

That's weird actually because my mom's co-worker asked the same question, and after looking it up (don't ask me where) She found that it is not a sin unless done obsessively. Just to clear things up about this comment: "Yes, it is a sin. Just like wearing more than one fabric. Touching a woman on her period. Letting your cows graze with other cows. Getting piercings or tattoos. Being uncircumcised. Shaving. All of those: ticket to hell. " These we're all laws from the Old testament that we're put in place by Pharisee's so that the pharisee's could be above all else. They were not "tickets to hell" Pharisee's were lame hypocrites. And hey, maybe I am to, sometimes...but at some point everyone is. If I did not do my research correctly please tell me where I messed up and why i am wrong.

[Amaryllis]

Oh oh I touched my vagina while showering

I'm going to hell.

[StoppingTime]

Oh oh I touched my vagina while showering

I'm going to hell.

It doesn't apply to girls because they aren't "spilling the seed"

[Genghis Khan]

It doesn't apply to girls because they aren't "spilling the seed"

According to Quranic logic, female masturbation can get you killed by your own family because you'd break your hymen, making it look like you've been sleeping around. Therefore females should just not masturbate. Instead they should 'read a book' or make themselves useful.

FLrBuQtc_qU

[kenoloor]

That's weird actually because my mom's co-worker asked the same question, and after looking it up (don't ask me where) She found that it is not a sin unless done obsessively. Just to clear things up about this comment: "Yes, it is a sin. Just like wearing more than one fabric. Touching a woman on her period. Letting your cows graze with other cows. Getting piercings or tattoos. Being uncircumcised. Shaving. All of those: ticket to hell. " These we're all laws from the Old testament that we're put in place by Pharisee's so that the pharisee's could be above all else. They were not "tickets to hell" Pharisee's were lame hypocrites. And hey, maybe I am to, sometimes...but at some point everyone is. If I did not do my research correctly please tell me where I messed up and why i am wrong.

Sarcasm. It's a wonderful thing. Except when you have to point it out.

[Mutah]

Religion should be between you and your lord, if you believe in religion. It's up to you.. We've been given freewill. Do some research and come to a conclusion.

[zack17]

no dnt think so

[embers]

no dnt think so

Hey, the last post in this thread was over 2 months ago. Try and post in something more recent! (Ie under 2 months)

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