This sickens me.

[embers]

This is an entire episode of Dispatches, if you're willing to watch it. Watch all of it if you can.

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This really sickens me. To see that fundamentalist Christianity is actually a growing problem in Britain really winds me up. What I hate is that the people followed and interviewed by Dispatches can't even back up their reasons for bringing extremist religion to the courts - they turn their microphones off and refuse to engage in discussion. This has happened two or three times in this episode.

Oh, and there are schools teaching children that the Earth is 6 to 10,000 years old. Andrea from the episode believes it's 4,000. I'm really, really shocked. I know I shouldn't be, and that ignorance and intolerance are really really prominent, but still.

Your views and opinions?

[Angel Androgynous]

I watched the first part for a few seconds and raged. >.> (I am going to watch the whole thing right now.... and probably write a rant.)

[embers]

I watched the first part for a few seconds and raged. >.> (I am going to watch the whole thing right now.... and probably write a rant.)

Yeah... you'll find a lot of things enraging in this. The school bit, homophobia, Islamophobia, general ignorance, and the list continues...

[Angel Androgynous]

I watched it....


And those people piss me off just as much as the WBC... I want to throw science textbooks at them. I laughed so hard when the interviewer asked Andrea (or whatever the hell her name was...) how old the earth is... then she said 4,000 years old... then he mentioned fossils... then she asked to turn the camera off. Oh, I had such a smile of satisfaction on my face. What pisses me off, though, is that they are becoming a bigger and bigger problem! They're like a tumor you can't get rid of... OH and I saw a sign that said: "Women deserve better than abortion." I almost slapped my computer monitor... It's like saying: "Women deserve to give birth to babies that they don't want because they are baby popping machines and not people."

[Black Eight]

I watched the first five minutes and I'm too steamed to finish it right now. It just baffles me how ignorant people could be. I mean if homosexuality bothers you, then don't talk to gay people or think about them. Why should you be allowed to control their lives? Because God said so? No. That's like me saying I'm going to persecute people with brown hair because my imaginary friend said brown hair is an abomination. I just beat up my pillow in rage. I'll probably have to finish the episode tomorrow.

[User Deleted]

*gets aggravated at 0:40*
They are doing this why, god says not to? Don't force your opinion on others. People can live as they wish unless they are murderers or rapists ect. And if they were true blue Christians they wouldn't be so violently voicing themselves.
*after further annoyance proceeds to listen to witch doctor*

[Belton21]

These are not true chistians, if they would have read the scripture in Matthew, "He who go out from the synagogues,to pray and preach in the street,is not a follower of god but a hypocrite"...


That's my opinion on the subject..

[Vonn]

I'm really hoping someone squashes their movement before it becomes a bigger issue. They can only get so far before the rest of the world wakes up.

[Black Eight]

I'm really hoping someone squashes their movement before it becomes a bigger issue. They can only get so far before the rest of the world wakes up.
I don't see how it could became a major movement though. They hold very extreme values.

[Genghis Khan]

After watching this I can't imagine how uninformed some people must be to think Islamic Law is a big [maybe a bigger] threat in Britain.

[embers]

I don't see how it could became a major movement though. They hold very extreme values.

They've got backing from conservative politicians (and other ones). At least they did at the time of this documentary, which was October last year.

After watching this I can't imagine how uninformed some people must be to think Islamic Law is a big [maybe a bigger] threat in Britain.

Lol yeah, they were talking about the threat of extremist Islam and how Muslims were 'pushing their faith' on Britain... HMMMMMM

[backtobackawesome]

*sigh* wish we had this movement in the US

things'd get loads better then but we only have WBC

Please do not double post. Thanks. ~Thomas

[embers]

*sigh* wish we had this movement in the US

This movement was inspired by movements in the US, actually. So we have you guys to blame.

things'd get loads better then but we only have WBC

Tell me just how they'd get better?

[Bradworth]

I watched part of part 1 before I had to turn it off. Raging so hard. These kids have been brainwashed by their sick Religion. Seeing the bit where the young girl was doing a SCIENCE test and it was all about GOD! WTF? That's not science! It really sickens me that there are people like that living in this country. So mad right now.

[Efflorescence]

Good heavens! I'm Catholic and I am definitely anti-abortion for biological and moral reasons, but this........this is stupidity....you cannot take the Bible word for word and be so gullible!!!!!!!!!!! Bloody idiots!!!!!!!!
I believe in evolution.........I'm studying Biology and chemistry for my A-levels and there's definitive proof that evolution has taken place and is taking place all the time.....

I respect homosexuality because everyone deserves to be happy....homosexuals are not causing pain or killing innocent human beings so comparing them to murderers or rapists is nothing short of disgusting....Just my two cents

[Amaryllis]

This is ridiculous. There is no goddamn one religion. It's like saying "I'm asian. And if you're not asian, you suck. Asian is the only way. All other races are puny." If God or Jesus really does exist, this wouldn't wanna be what he'd want. What do you mean homosexuality is an abomination??? If god meant for homosexuals to be an abomination, he wouldn't put them on this goddamn earth. So what if you're gay? Flowers can reproduce asexually! Isn't that saying something?

Everyone sins. You can't be goddamn perfect. Abortion is an abomination? They're the goddamn abominations! You can do whatever the hell you want with yourself but don't go trying to convert everyone and tell them they'll rot in hell if they don't! Keep your beliefs to yourself! I don't go running around telling everyone to be Wiccan because if you don't, you're going to turn into salt.

The science question asks how many days did it take god to make the world??? What the hell is up with that! Learn real science. I'm not saying god doesn't exist. Maybe he does, hell, I don't know. But this is ridiculous. You're raising a child to be what you want them to be. Give them a goddamn choice!

Back to abortion. The guy doesn't suffer as much as the girl. Her childhood will be ruined. Her chance at a normal life. Her life.

[ADC12]

WHAT BULLCRAP!!!!
i was soooo satisfied when andrea answered the 'how old is warth question' SERVES YOU RIGHT!! Like Z has said ^ if gays were 'evil' then why would God put them on earth???

[Sage]

These are not true chistians
if they were true blue Christians
How many bad apples do you apologists have to watch before you consider the idea that the problem of these people is systemic?

things'd get loads better then but we only have WBC
It's official, you're a troll.

[Amaryllis]

I just finished all the videos and god... GOD. Sorry, pardon the pun. But GOD! I live in a goddamn muslim country and I'm not muslim. And guess what? I'm not dead. Gasp! I have catholic, christian, wiccan, muslim, buddhist and tamil friends and friends who don't believe in god.

No religion teaches you bad. It's human beings who twist it up in their minds. God didn't write the bible or the quran. Wiccan rede: An it harm none, do as ye will.

In criticising other religions, you are criticising your own.

[Sage]

No religion teaches you bad. It's human beings who twist it up in their minds.

Are you implying that each and every religious teaching is only bad because it's twisted from its original meaning?

[User Deleted]

How many bad apples do you apologists have to watch before you consider the idea that the problem of these people is systemic?


Well... I never considered it because all the christians I have met had an entirely different mindset. I wasn't being apologist, I simply overlooked a rather large factor >.>

Are you implying that each and every religious teaching is only bad because it's twisted from its original meaning?
You weren't talking to me but... most religions yes.

[Amaryllis]

EDIT: Most religions teach you to do good. Unless it's Satanism or something of the sort. The definition for religion is pretty vague... The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power. I'm pretty sure that applies to aliens.

Well, I don't think I believe in "God" as in some almighty being that... Never mind. I'm just gonna end up ranting on about Wicca or atheism, or both. But if god did exist, I don't think it's telling us to "Go kill someone. Kick and annoy if they're not ." Does it really even [I]matter? It's like going on strike because someone likes pink. People can believe whatever the hell they want. They just don't have to force it upon others. The world isn't black and white. It's an endless, never ending gray. But that's just what I think.

If you're pissed, punch yourself in the face. If you're frustrated, stab your own leg. If you want to be christian, go and be christian, it doesn't mean the entire goddamn world needs to as well.

Sorry for saying goddamn so much... At least I don't cuss... Much.

[Donkey]

It's sad that these fundamentalists can't be as happy and fulfilled with life as the Satan-worshipping homosexuals they oppose so much.

[Amaryllis]

I wanted to slam my computer at their heads when I heard that. I'm still extremely pissed. About half of my friends are gay or lesbian and it's like they've insulted half of the bloody population. And masturbation is perverting innocence? What is up with that? Do they learn bloody science? They just offended the entire bloody population.

If god intended homosexuals and bisexuals to be abominations, they wouldn't exist.

[backtobackawesome]

Tell me just how they'd get better?

everyone will run on the one true law put down by god

plus the woman had good points people will gay parents do get confused about themselves and that shouldnt be hapenning in our society

[Genghis Khan]

everyone will run on the one true law put down by god

plus the woman had good points people will gay parents do get confused about themselves and that shouldnt be hapenning in our society

Have you ever been to school?

[embers]

everyone will run on the one true law put down by god

What God? The one whose existence is asserted by a 2000 year old compilation of desert scribblings? How undeniable.

plus the woman had good points people will gay parents do get confused about themselves and that shouldnt be hapenning in our society

Every teen gets confused about themselves. It's fucking called puberty. The woman was just a homophobic, Islamophobic, irrational bitch.

Let me ask you: where in the Bible does it tell you to hate homosexuals? Oh right, the Old Testament. Last time I checked, you didn't want to follow the Old Testament:

lololol god didnt maul children that was the old testament dont take the jewish book and place that on us we're a peaceful community

As for that quote... peaceful community? You hate anything non-Christian. That isn't even peaceful.

[Amaryllis]

everyone will run on the one true law put down by god
There are a lot of religions much older than christianity. And whoever said it was the one true religion? God?

[Angel Androgynous]

There are a lot of religions much older than christianity. And whoever said it was the one true religion? God?

Nope. A bunch of d00ds in robes who decided to write a story book one day...

[Efflorescence]

I don't know how to do the 'quote' thing yet so I apologize:


I'm sorry Sage but I don't think that you can just draw the line like that. In our country, most people are Roman Catholic. I go to a Catholic school run by Jesuits. In our school, there are also atheists who are very open about their ideas, but they attend said school because it is one of the best schools on the island. Yes, ATHEISTS IN A CATHOLIC SCHOOL. Why not?

We don't feel the need to be disrespectful to each other here so no, I don't think the problem is 'systemic'. It's just that like with most things in life....it's always 'the bad ones' that stand out.

[Korashk]

It's official, you're a troll.
My thoughts exactly.

[backtobackawesome]

you all dont get my point you just keep neg repping ugh it sucks when you have this cuz i know for a fact that one day when the liberals are in control its going to be like chairman mao all over again with their equal economic rights and killing religion i dont see whats wrong with it its just crazy but soon people should realize this i must pray

[aperson444]

Hey Mao was a pretty cool guy. And we aren't killing religion by criticizing the fundamentalists.

does this video remind anyone of V is for Vendetta?

[Sage]

you all dont get my point you just keep neg repping ugh it sucks when you have this cuz i know for a fact that one day when the liberals are in control its going to be like chairman mao all over again with their equal economic rights and killing religion i dont see whats wrong with it its just crazy but soon people should realize this i must pray

How many unrelated talking points can you spew out before you actually respond to counter arguments against you?

[Genghis Khan]

you all dont get my point you just keep neg repping ugh it sucks when you have this cuz i know for a fact that one day when the liberals are in control its going to be like chairman mao all over again with their equal economic rights and killing religion i dont see whats wrong with it its just crazy but soon people should realize this i must pray

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[Amaryllis]

What happened to Do unto others as you would have them do unto you? How would they like it if the Muslims they despised so much said the same about them and made such a big fuss about it? They think Islam is a a false religion built on hate? What about Christianity? how many people have been killed, how many lives destroyed? The witch hunts? The battle between Catholics and protestants? The people who have been forced to convert? How many lives have been lost in the name of religion?

Sure, some Muslims kill and hate. Just as some buddhists, atheists, christians, homosexuals, hetrosexuals, people who like pink, black and blue do. it's ridiculous to persecute someone based on sexuality or religion.

I have nothing against christians. Just these particular know it alls.

when you point at others, 3 fingers are pointing back at you.

[Iris]

Sadly I've seen worse.

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sigh.

[The Joker]

EDIT: Most religions teach you to do good. Unless it's Satanism or something of the sort.

Could you please not state extreme generalizations that aren't fucking accurate at all? Unless you have something that proves this argument, of course.

[Magus]

when you point at others, 3 fingers are pointing back at you.The difference between sexuality and religion, is that sexuality is innate, and religion is inserted. Sexuality does not teach you, it tells you what you are. Religion teaches, and tells you what to do.

Sexuality does not command to hate. But religion does commands to hate.

[Amaryllis]

Could you please not state extreme generalizations that aren't fucking accurate at all? Unless you have something that proves this argument, of course.

Which part's the extreme generalisation? That most religions teach you good? Yes. Most of them do. Humans just warp it up in their twisted minds. God didn't write the Quran or the bible. And if he did exist, I don't think he/she/it would be asking everyone to persecute and kill each other. Anyway, even if you look at what the quran/bible/moral code goes here, it's not evil.

Christianity: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Wicca: An it harm none, do as ye will.
Islam: You shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.
Hinduism: Those who live in accordance with the divine laws without complaining, firmly established in faith, are released from karma. Those who violate these laws, criticizing and complaining, are utterly deluded, and are the cause of their own suffering.
Buddhism: The Law is equal, equal for all beings.

True, some of the teachings are utter crap(in my opinion). But like I said, I don't think Deity(if there is one) wrote any of the moral codes. But then again... The definition of religion is pretty vague...

[Korashk]

Which part's the extreme generalisation?
Mostly the implication that Satanism is about doing evil, when that's completely wrong.

[sammy1996]

words really cant explain what i think of these total ignorant idiots, im an atheist and ight have some views other disagree with but i dont try and make others believe them, people are free to believe what they wanted, if they thought this inside there own home id still think there idiots but accept that they believe that but.... just eugh.....
its for things like this why i dislike religions full stop, all they do is create prejudice and warp peoples thoughts to that of god with no proof he or jesus ever existed.
i will admit what he said at 9:40 in PT 4, i agree with, i do think there will be a civil war but between 2 sets of extremists not the majority of the population
rant over.

[Amaryllis]

Mostly the implication that Satanism is about doing evil, when that's completely wrong.

Ooohhh sorry about that. Just did my research. Really sorry for that, peeps. I was a stupid douche.

Note to self: Don't be a know-it-all douche.

[aperson444]

The Church of Satan is a bit different from classical "Satanism". That kind of Satanism is fairly rare and often simply a publicity stunt. Most "Satanic" people are really pagans who have a darker view on humanity.

[BOBBY HILL]

christians are dumb

who would of thought

[Sogeking]

christians are dumb

who would of thought

Athiests are dumb who would of thought.

C'mon now, are you seriously using child logic or are you trolling here.

[Amaryllis]

We can't judge an entire group of people based on 10% of them.

I'm a Pagan, Wiccan, to be exact and we don't believe in a "Satan". I'm really sorry for what I said. I'd take it back if I could but editing my post won't change what I said. I should have known better. My religion is persecuted enough as it is. I think most of us, me included, just jump to conclusions. We shouldn't do that. I try not to but I stumble sometimes.

Not all christians are bad, just as not all atheists are good. Everyone's different. It's like saying all Germans are Hitlers.

[Efflorescence]

christians are dumb

who would of thought

Hate to be blunt like this, but like these 'fundamentalists' you're as closed-minded as f***. You're the dumb one, dear.:mad:

[SosbanFach]

At the end of the first video, when the interviewer said 'While he was gone, he decided that the bird poo was a message from God telling him not to participate in the programme.' I laughed so much. The entire thing is just so ridiculous!

[Suicune]

I'll watch the rest later, but I just had to pause and hit my head against the wall at the school part.

[Simon.]

I hate Christians like this. Making us look bad, hardly any of us are like this...

[SosbanFach]

I hate Christians like this. Making us look bad, hardly any of us are like this...

This thought did cross my mind, but the closed-minded stupidity of the entire thing was actually quite amusing, so I didn't make a particularly sensible comment. That science paper was NOT science. That was more like an RS lesson, except that instead of 'Christians believe that God created the Earth in six days' it was saying that 'God created the Earth in six days, and if you dare to suggest otherwise then you will burn in hell!'

[embers]

it was saying that 'God created the Earth in six days, and if you dare to suggest otherwise then you will burn in hell!'

But...you will.

[Beaker]

I know this is really old, but the videos have been removed. Is there anywhere else I can watch this?
EDIT: Okay, found it on Google. Only watched a minutiae of it, and I'm already hopping mad.

[ImCoolBeans]

Please don't bump old threads :locked: