Cannabis

[ImCoolBeans]

i want to know where exactly people stand with this, what are your ideas / opinions on marijuana? should it be legal? illegal? why? any reasons?

[Amnesiac]

Legalize all drugs.

[Korashk]

Things don't need justification to be legal, they need justification to be illegal. The principal of making something illegal requires that there be a reason for said illegality. Currently, there are none when it comes to marijuana.

[Angel Androgynous]

Legalize it.

[AppealToReason]

Meh, people will get drugs no matter what if they really want to. May as well legalize it and stop having people arrested for using a relatively harmless drug.

[The Joker]

Legalize it because it's fun.

[SimplyTom]

its an illegal drug or a reason so yeah it should stay like that

[Angel Androgynous]

its an illegal drug or a reason so yeah it should stay like that

The.[-]dumb[/-] reasons why marijuana is illegal:

1. It's "immoral."
Boo fucking hoo. Get over it. :P
2. It's "unhealthy."
It's healthier than tobacco and relieves stress and pain...my body, I do whatever the fuck I want...and smoke whatever the fuck I want.

[Wicked_Syn]

There's already like 3-4 other detailed threads like this.

[embers]

Indifferent.

[Julien7]

ive seen people do it, friends of mine who are only 13 do it sometimes and they think its cool, it really does fuck you up

[ImCoolBeans]

ive seen people do it, friends of mine who are only 13 do it sometimes and they think its cool, it really does fuck you up

so does tobacco, but tobacco is legal

[aperson444]

Legalize it. Healthwise, the risks are not at all comparable to other similarly classified drugs like PCP and heroin. You will also save money and focus public safety where it really counts. I've known people with family members that go to jail for dealing weed or possessing weed, they come out either violent or scarred for life.

[TaNei]

I think it is not good for anyone, but legalizing would decrease the crime rates

[dnlsmth]

ok well it shud absolutely be illegal. its terrible especially in adolescence. it can really change ur life for the worse. ur number of friends gets reduced. u become addicted. no not physically addicted, but psychologically addicted which can be just as dangerous because u start wanting it all the time and it distracts u from other things like school work and sport etc. this demotivates u to do work such as school work or even having a job. there are links towards mental conditions such as schizophrenia. no this is not proven but there is evidence that many ppl believe is true. it is also known as gateway drug. see what happens is humans develop tolerance to drugs. this happens with all drugs including alcohol. basically for the same effect u need to take more however the side effects increase which can lead ppl to take harder drugs such as heroin and increase problems even more. hence the name gateway drug because it can be a gateway to other drugs. get ur heads out of ur arses. it is not a harmless drug.

[BOBBY HILL]

ok well it shud absolutely be illegal. its terrible especially in adolescence. it can really change ur life for the worse. ur number of friends gets reduced. u become addicted. no not physically addicted, but psychologically addicted which can be just as dangerous because u start wanting it all the time and it distracts u from other things like school work and sport etc. this demotivates u to do work such as school work or even having a job. there are links towards mental conditions such as schizophrenia. no this is not proven but there is evidence that many ppl believe is true. it is also known as gateway drug. see what happens is humans develop tolerance to drugs. this happens with all drugs including alcohol. basically for the same effect u need to take more however the side effects increase which can lead ppl to take harder drugs such as heroin and increase problems even more. hence the name gateway drug because it can be a gateway to other drugs. get ur heads out of ur arses. it is not a harmless drug.

I'm sure you know this from personal experience and didn't get this from stories. :yes:

[Angel Androgynous]

ok well it shud absolutely be illegal. its terrible especially in adolescence. it can really change ur life for the worse. ur number of friends gets reduced. u become addicted. no not physically addicted, but psychologically addicted which can be just as dangerous because u start wanting it all the time and it distracts u from other things like school work and sport etc. this demotivates u to do work such as school work or even having a job. there are links towards mental conditions such as schizophrenia. no this is not proven but there is evidence that many ppl believe is true. it is also known as gateway drug. see what happens is humans develop tolerance to drugs. this happens with all drugs including alcohol. basically for the same effect u need to take more however the side effects increase which can lead ppl to take harder drugs such as heroin and increase problems even more. hence the name gateway drug because it can be a gateway to other drugs. get ur heads out of ur arses. it is not a harmless drug.

I lol'd.

[SimplyTom]

The.[-]dumb[/-] reasons why marijuana is illegal:

1. It's "immoral."
Boo fucking hoo. Get over it. :P
2. It's "unhealthy."
It's healthier than tobacco and relieves stress and pain...my body, I do whatever the fuck I want...and smoke whatever the fuck I want.

u forgot the point that it messes up with your body and its gets u on high (which some people like) drugs are just pointless (unless they are prescribed drugs)

[Angel Androgynous]

u forgot the point that it messes up with your body and its gets u on high (which some people like) drugs are just pointless (unless they are prescribed drugs)

Alcohol messes with your body... it isn't illegal.
If weed makes people feel good, it's their business. If you don't like it, don't use it. It's that simple. :/ Also, it relaxes people. And if it is "pointless," then what is the point of making it illegal in the first place?

[SimplyTom]

Alcohol messes with your body... it isn't illegal.
If weed makes people feel good, it's their business. If you don't like it, don't use it. It's that simple. :/ Also, it relaxes people. And if it is "pointless," then what is the point of making it illegal in the first place?

no alcohol doesnt mess with your body if you only have a considerate amount where as cannabis just messes with your body full stop. And just for the record ive never used cannabis and never intend to, why would i wanna waste my money when i could buy something half decent?

[Angel Androgynous]

no alcohol doesnt mess with your body if you only have a considerate amount where as cannabis just messes with your body full stop. And just for the record ive never used cannabis and never intend to, why would i wanna waste my money when i could buy something half decent?

Then let other people enjoy their weed and move on.

[SimplyTom]

Then let other people enjoy their weed and move on.

let people enjoy a drug that basically kills their body?
and this is from wiki

everyday use of Cannabis can in some cases, be correlated with some psychological withdrawal symptoms such as irritability, and insomnia and evidence could suggest that if a user experiences stress, the likeliness of getting a panic attack increases because of an increase of THC metabolites

[kezyy]

no alcohol doesnt mess with your body if you only have a considerate amount where as cannabis just messes with your body full stop. And just for the record ive never used cannabis and never intend to, why would i wanna waste my money when i could buy something half decent?

No experience, no opinion on what it does or doesnt do, alcohol and tobbaco are far worse than weed, iv never had a problem with weed, never had problems, i would rather do weed than drink, and im. pretty sure most weed do'ers will agree

[Angel Androgynous]

let people enjoy a drug that basically kills their body?
and this is from wiki

everyday use of Cannabis can in some cases, be correlated with some psychological withdrawal symptoms such as irritability, and insomnia and evidence could suggest that if a user experiences stress, the likeliness of getting a panic attack increases because of an increase of THC metabolites

You do realize that these people are not smoking four tons of weed a day, right? My friend smokes weed, he is perfectly healthy and calm... in fact, weed relaxes him. At the end of the day... it's really none of your business.

[SimplyTom]

You do realize that these people are not smoking four tons of weed a day, right? My friend smokes weed, he is perfectly healthy and calm... in fact, weed relaxes him. At the end of the day... it's really none of your business.

well i guess in some cases it does relax people its like people may do that in stead of running or something im not saying its gonna kill u im saying it just shouldnt be legal

[Korashk]

let people enjoy a drug that basically kills their body?
Except it doesn't. Marijuana is one of the least harmful drugs in existence and no person has ever died because of using marijuana.

everyday use of Cannabis can in some cases, be correlated with some psychological withdrawal symptoms such as irritability, and insomnia and evidence could suggest that if a user experiences stress, the likeliness of getting a panic attack increases because of an increase of THC metabolites
The is caused by the withdrawal, not the marijuana.

[AppealToReason]

let people enjoy a drug that basically kills their body?
and this is from wiki

everyday use of Cannabis can in some cases, be correlated with some psychological withdrawal symptoms such as irritability, and insomnia and evidence could suggest that if a user experiences stress, the likeliness of getting a panic attack increases because of an increase of THC metabolites

Using wiki as a source is laughable.
Plus, how do withdrawal symptoms kill their body?
I still say that if tobacco and alcohol are legal, then weed should be too.

[embers]

My friend smokes weed, he is perfectly healthy and calm... in fact, weed relaxes him. At the end of the day... it's really none of your business.

On the other hand, a friend of mine smokes weed regularly and has since then stopped giving a shit about anything to do with education and life in general - and he admits it's because he'd rather just smoke weed. I'm not knowledgeable on this topic very much, but I'll take a leap and assume the psychological effects of marijuana vary on the person using it.

I'm not against it, in case you think that - I really don't care whether it's legal or not.

[Angel Androgynous]

Eh well things have different effects on different people. :P And my friend doesn't smoke it regularly. Just once in a while.

[Amnesiac]

Every thread about marijuana ends up with the same pointless arguments. People are against legalization because of the societal propaganda that the drug is "bad for you". Whether or not it's "bad for you" isn't related, at all, to the question of legalization.

No person or group should have the right to tell someone not to do something because it's "bad for them". Why is it your business, or anybody else's, what someone does privately, without harming anybody else? The problem with society today is that society has given itself the power to regulate the lives of individual people, simply based on the justification that what individuals do is "wrong" or "not normal".

People should be allowed to do whatever they want, even if it does hurt themselves. As long as it's not affecting others, it's none of my business – or yours.

Smoking weed does not hurt people. It's the perfect example of a victimless crime. There are basically no arguments against legalization that aren't based on an absurd moral agenda.

[aperson444]

On mental illness: http://www.jci.org/articles/view/25509

This is a paper published not long ago detailing hippocampal neurogenesis after chronic doses of HU210, a potent CB1/CB2 receptor agonist like THC but 100x stronger (THC has a Ki of approx. 40 nM while HU210 is less than 10 nM). This indicates a similar action to antidepressants like Prozac, but without any sort of messing with serotonin, dopamine or norepinephrine systems (directly).

On dopamine release: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19539765

This showed NO reduced binding of a dopamine antagonist in the striatum, thus proving that THC does not induce release of dopamine. This suggests no feasible theory for addiction that is physical.


On addiction: http://www.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=1492

Three studies used criteria to quantify addictiveness. In all three, marijuana ranked the very lowest.

On adolescent use: I'm sorry I do not have the link, but there was a study where they analyzed the hippocampal volume of adolescents using annd not using cannabis. They found no difference. They did not analyze structure however, but it is well known that in rat models there seems to be no real damage to the hippocampus.

On memory: http://www.springerlink.com/content/n805660168021620/

The inhibition of memory formation is purely temporary and acute. It is easily reversed by CB1 receptor antagonists. In addition, some components of cannabis like CBD are antagonists for the TRPV1 receptor, which contributes to LTD, the opposite of LTP. This means that CBD could in fact INCREASE memory formation

On psychosis: http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S0100-879X2006000400001&script=sci_arttext

While the link between cannabis and psychosis HAS been established,it is still under much scrutiny. We can find no real mechanism for psychosis via cannabis. The article above uses a component of cannabis known as CBD to TREAT psychosis in similar efficacy to the atypical antipsychotic amisulpride (with less side effects as well)

I need not go into the fact that cannabis components have been shown to reduce risks of cancer. They also can kill brain tumors like gliomas or glioblastomas. They induce autophagy and apoptosis via the AKT Kinase survival pathway.

I have more sources as well; I wrote an essay on the topic for Health and got a major piss fit from the teacher. I can post that here as well, but it's a bit lengthy.

I've also seen papers demonstrating HUNDREDS of medicinal uses and possible benefits, including increased melatonin release and recovery from anxiety/depression. I have seen papers describing astounding results of THC against cancer cells (visualized via immunostaining). So before you claim that science is on the side of "Marijuana is bad m'kay", look at the research. We can't say "Marijuana is good kids" yet, but it is certainly not the former either. The truth is, life is short and we should enjoy it as we wish. I choose to smoke cannabis as a personal choice and harm no one in the process. To back up my choice, I have researched various papers and studied everything from neuroscience to immunology to understand this topic.

This is why it should not be illegal. It is an individual's personal choice. So long as they use it responsibly (don't drive high, don't force it on others), then I see no harm.

[dnlsmth]

It does hurt more then just the individual. if people are getting sick from it and becoming less motivated to work it affects the rest of us. firstly, depending on the disease it can take up space in hospitals. Hospitals funded by tax payers money. do u want to help pay for someone to get better that has been smoking cannabis their whole life and basically ruined it? i wouldnt. its their own fault. that is why there is so much advertising against smoking and they are so heavily taxed because it is does impact on the rest of society.

[aperson444]

Not necessarily. We can save a lot of money at the same time by flushing users out of the criminal system. And plus, there's evidence of really serious long term effects so far.

[Amnesiac]

It does hurt more then just the individual. if people are getting sick from it and becoming less motivated to work it affects the rest of us.

It doesn't make people "sick," and a person refusing to work does not affect society. It'll just lead to that person's own demise, which is up to them.

firstly, depending on the disease it can take up space in hospitals. Hospitals funded by tax payers money. do u want to help pay for someone to get better that has been smoking cannabis their whole life and basically ruined it? i wouldnt. its their own fault. that is why there is so much advertising against smoking and they are so heavily taxed because it is does impact on the rest of society.

What are you talking about? There are no "diseases" caused by marijuana, and even if there were, it's of no true consequence to any other individual. Hospitals, in the United States, are funded privately for the most part. Under a public healthcare system, I don't see why something obviously self-inflicted would even be covered, but then again, I don't fully understand Australia's system. But that's besides the point; smoking weed does not affect anybody – not the person smoking it, and not the people around him/her.

People who are against things like this love to talk about how they "increase the cost to society," which isn't relevant. The only reason the "cost" to society is increased in the first place is because society is so intent on doing everything for everybody. If things like healthcare and education stopped being publicized by governments, the "cost to society" would be eliminated, as the individual would have to cover their own costs. But privatization is something different altogether.

What I'm trying to say is that:


Cannabis/marijuana does not and has never harmed any individual.
It isn't society's job to be concerned with the individual's activities.
It isn't society's job to cover the asses of people who make bad decisions.

[User Deleted]

Legalize all drugs.

Cause, we legalize drugs. Effect, population is "controlled." Hooray optimism! (I am being serious, I know that sounds like sarcasm, but this is just me agreeing in a weird way)

[Infidelitas]

I'm neither for or against.. But I choose not to anyway. I don't need to be high or drunk to make me happy. But thats the way I am.

So long as I am not directly affected with people using dope (Like smelling it in my living room every night), Im not fussed

[dontcare97]

I don't think teenagers just like i don't think teenagers should smoke cigarettes or drink alcohol. I know kids as young as 12 that use and sell it, that's kinda messed up. But i do think adults over 21 should have the choice.

Regular use of marijuana can be isn't as dangerous as smoking a pack a day. They are old enough to vote and decide whether or not the want to buy a gun or drink fifty cases of beer a week, I think they can handle the decision of smoking some weed. Don't like the law? don't smoke it. Not everyone smokes cigarettes or consume alcohol because they are legal. don't believe in it? Don't to it. Simple.

[dnlsmth]

[QUOTE=LithiumAneurysm;1422365]It doesn't make people "sick," and a person refusing to work does not affect society. It'll just lead to that person's own demise, which is up to them

and they will end up on welfare benefits or turning to crime to pay for their addiction

the problem is tho. there is still a lot unknown about the drug and more research shud be done about it before it is even considered to be legalised. they used to think that cigarettes were harmless. now look at them.

btw i have no problem with the medical use because in some terminally ill patients it can increase quality of life.

[dontcare97]

[QUOTE=LithiumAneurysm;1422365]It doesn't make people "sick," and a person refusing to work does not affect society. It'll just lead to that person's own demise, which is up to them

and they will end up on welfare benefits or turning to crime to pay for their addiction

the problem is tho. there is still a lot unknown about the drug and more research shud be done about it before it is even considered to be legalised. they used to think that cigarettes were harmless. now look at them.

btw i have no problem with the medical use because in some terminally ill patients it can increase quality of life.

Marijuana has been around way before tobacco. Thomas Jefferson smoked it. Native Americans and the Mayans used it. People have been aware of it's affect for hundreds of years. Sure they are negative side effects. Everything has those, from Advil to Crack. Marijuana isn't just for smoking. making it legal will increase the sells of hemp, the material that can replace any cloth fiber, paper to clothes.

[aperson444]

and they will end up on welfare benefits or turning to crime to pay for their addiction

the problem is tho. there is still a lot unknown about the drug and more research shud be done about it before it is even considered to be legalised. they used to think that cigarettes were harmless. now look at them.

btw i have no problem with the medical use because in some terminally ill patients it can increase quality of life.

Massive facepalm is overdue. Read my post above, especially on addiction.

[dnlsmth]

Ok so it is less addictive then some other drugs however, it is a gateway drug and can easily cause people to move onto harder drugs.

The fact is, it has negative side effects. There is no doubt about that but it has no positive ones (apart from in medicine which is a different issue and im ok with that).
How will society benefit in any way by legalizing it? There is no reason to legalize it because there are no advantages, only disadvantages.

[AppealToReason]

Ok so it is less addictive then some other drugs however, it is a gateway drug and can easily cause people to move onto harder drugs.


That's a pathetic argument. People moving onto harder drugs is their choice and they will do so whether or not they smoke weed.




The fact is, it has negative side effects. There is no doubt about that but it has no positive ones (apart from in medicine which is a different issue and im ok with that).


Is the relaxation that comes with it not positive? The calming effect some get from it? Exactly what are the negative side effects that are so bad?

[dnlsmth]

there are other better and far safer ways to relax. im not going to go over the negatives. we all know them.

[AppealToReason]

Of course there are better ways to relax, that doesn't mean that weed has no positive side effects and it doesn't make it a bad or dangerous drug.
I'm not being sarcastic, I obviously don't know the side effects that make it so bad it should be illegal besides a possibility of addiction.
Explain them to me.

[kezyy]

Of course there are better ways to relax, that doesn't mean that weed has no positive side effects and it doesn't make it a bad or dangerous drug.
I'm not being sarcastic, I obviously don't know the side effects that make it so bad it should be illegal besides a possibility of addiction.
Explain them to me.

Totally agree, I wanna know somw negative side affects... i havent found any

[dnlsmth]

ugh. its addictive
it can cause psychosis and other mental problems
being smoked can cause the same other problems that smoking can cause such as lung cancer etc.

[AppealToReason]

Links?
All the results on the first page of google say it doesn't cause lung cancer.
Not saying they are all trustworthy, but I doubt they would all say no if it truly did cause lung cancer, so where did you get that from?

[kezyy]

There's nothing in weed that makes it addictive, maybe if if smoke it with tobacco, you would think your addicted but its just the nicotine.. and weed in its pure form im pretty sure is more good for Your lungs, I.e good for asthma??

[dnlsmth]

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2006/s1810712.htm
a great news article about it.

as far as the lung cancer goes i was told that. my bad i probs shud of checked that out for myself. but yer.

[AppealToReason]

Where is the scientific proof? That seemed like a bunch of guys pulling crap out of their ass.
Honestly, has anyone ever checked to see if the people had mental illnesses BEFORE smoking weed? I'll believe it when I see scientific proof that it causes mental problems.

[dnlsmth]

yes the link is there. but to prove it is very difficult because it may be the cannabis doing it or is the ppl who are susceptible to these mental conditions that are drawn to the drug.

what they do know for certain is that it does affect the brain in other ways like memory etc.

and is it worth the risk?

Please do not double-post. If you have something to add, please use the "Edit" button next time. ~Thomas

[kezyy]

Besides people just believe its wrong BECAUSE its illegal, doesn't take much to realise just because the law says so, means its wrong. personally, I don't think anyone that hasnt tried it, hasn't got a leg to stand in in this kind of topic.

[AppealToReason]

I think it's well known that it affects memory, but we're talking about if it causes mental problems. So far, I have seen no scientific proof that it does, and no other negative effects besides a risk of addiction, so what is so BAD about it that it has to stay illegal?

[aperson444]

as far as the lung cancer goes i was told that. my bad i probs shud of checked that out for myself. but yer.

Dr. Tashkin, who was hired by NIDA (the anti-drug agency of the government)n to PROVE a lung cancer link, found no link between marijuana use and decreased lung function or increased risk of lung cancer. One of these studies is available here: http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/15/10/1829.short

what they do know for certain is that it does affect the brain in other ways like memory etc.

Look at the LTD/LTP study I posted. That pretty much shatters the argument that marijuana use can cause CHRONIC memory loss. Temporary memory loss is a side effect, just like feeling bloated is a side effect of drinking soda..

yes the link is there. but to prove it is very difficult because it may be the cannabis doing it or is the ppl who are susceptible to these mental conditions that are drawn to the drug.

Moot point. This is a perfect example for the correlation vs causation argument. You find a clear correlation between cannabis use and psychosis, but you can't really prove it CAUSES it. I can think of no neurochemical mechanism for cannabis to cause psychosis. Rather, it may lead to earlier psychosis in people who will already get psychosis, as it tends to precipitate out things in your subconscious like many other drugs.

and is it worth the risk?

I think so. Cannabis has literally saved me from depression. My recovery could not have been possible had it not been catalyzed by cannabis along with medication and psychotherapy. However you shouldn't be forced to use it or not use it. It's a personal choice. I'm not going to encourage it here, but if you want to try it, use common sense. For any action that involves altering your mind, body or mood, you have to look at yourself. Only then can you decide if it's right for you.

[Amnesiac]

Ok so it is less addictive then some other drugs however, it is a gateway drug and can easily cause people to move onto harder drugs.

No, it isn't. (http://www.drugscience.org/sfu/sfu_gateway.html)

The fact is, it has negative side effects. There is no doubt about that but it has no positive ones (apart from in medicine which is a different issue and im ok with that).
How will society benefit in any way by legalizing it? There is no reason to legalize it because there are no advantages, only disadvantages.

This isn't about society. Society can go fuck itself. What you're saying here is the perfect example of what's wrong with society – it's always considered more important than the individual. I don't give a fuck if legalizing "doesn't benefit society". Society doesn't matter. The individual does. Individuals should have the right to do whatever they want, regardless of whether or not society is benefited.

[Iris]

If alcohol and tobacco are legal, then cannabis should be legal. That's it.

This isn't about society. Society can go fuck itself. What you're saying here is the perfect example of what's wrong with society – it's always considered more important than the individual. I don't give a fuck if legalizing "doesn't benefit society". Society doesn't matter. The individual does. Individuals should have the right to do whatever they want, regardless of whether or not society is benefited.

Society and the individual have to work together for both to function. They're both dependent on the other. Society does matter. It's made up of individuals. I don't think the relationship between an individual and society is relevant to this discussion, because a relatively harmless drug isn't going to have a major effect on society as a whole, but respect that the individual wouldn't be able to exist without a society to protect him/her and keep things functioning.

[Amnesiac]

Society and the individual have to work together for both to function. They're both dependent on the other. Society does matter. It's made up of individuals. I don't think the relationship between an individual and society is relevant to this discussion, because a relatively harmless drug isn't going to have a major effect on society as a whole, but respect that the individual wouldn't be able to exist without a society to protect him/her and keep things functioning.

I'm not saying society shouldn't exist; I'm saying that its role in the lives of individuals is ridiculously bloated. Being a part of society should be a choice. For far too long, society has tried to make it mandatory for individuals to be a part of it. Society has always tried to keep people "inside the box," by doing things like promoting religion and making illegal things like sodomy and drugs.

But you're right, that's another topic for another thread. The point is that marijuana smokers don't violate the rights of any other individual. There are no victims. It shouldn't be a crime.

[Korashk]

***OFFTOPIC***

The issue is that too many people think of society as something separate from the individuals that make it up. This is where the "bad for society" thinking comes from. Society is really just a word to describe a group of individuals. Some of them being important to your life, and most of them being unimportant.

[Modus Operandi]

The argument of it being bad for society is null and void because even if it were legal, not everyone would smoke it. That argument assumes that everyone would suddenly drop everything and start rolling joints. Bullshit. Some people rely on having a clear head to do what they love. They're not going to use a mind-altering substance if it'd fuck their ability to do so up.

Also, personal freedom, blah blah blah. It's been said a million times before: people should have the right to do whatever the fuck they want to themselves as long as no one else is physically affected. Morality crusades are pointless.

[aperson444]

Yes, I see this argument far too much. Even the argument of increased road accidents is sort of well... stupid. First of all, statistically very few road accidents can directly be associated with cannabis alone (it's usually alcohol mixed with cannabis or cannabis mixed with a stimulant). Secondly, most people are smart enough to NOT drive high. This goes for the argument that legalization would lower grades and cause a general degradation in the moral fiber of society. People, you're human, you have an individual brain for a reason! If you don't want to use, then don't use. It shouldn't be the responsibility of people who DO want to use to suffer if they use drugs.

[Sporadica]

another one of these threads

well I believe the government has no right to decide what I can or cannot consume so I believe it should be 100% legal.

I'm going to get some flak for this but I believe that ALL drugs should be legal for recreational consumption

the Hells Angels major form on income is the marijuana trade and if Marijuana is legalized and sold in a store like liquor it'll do away with them or at least majorly hinder their income just like what happened with bootleggers after the repeal of prohibition in the 1920's

I believe guns, prostitution, and drugs should all be legalized in all their forms

in Canada the revenue for marijuana sales is $7 billion, now thats a hefty chunk of change

I ask you would you rather see it in the hands of The Hells Angels or the Government?

[Victor]

Alcohol messes with your body... it isn't illegal.
If weed makes people feel good, it's their business. If you don't like it, don't use it. It's that simple. :/ Also, it relaxes people. And if it is "pointless," then what is the point of making it illegal in the first place?

Most people actually know thier limits when it comes to alcohol, and a slight amount of it like wine is considered healthy.
I think we should get rid of all drugs, dope isnt as harmfull as pot or ciggs, but it still advocates the drug scene.. You dont realize how many potential drug abusers would be out there? If people advocate getting shitfaced on dope, then our other generations would continue the chain. Plain simple!

[Angel Androgynous]

Most people actually know thier limits when it comes to alcohol, and a slight amount of it like wine is considered healthy.
I think we should get rid of all drugs, dope isnt as harmfull as pot or ciggs, but it still advocates the drug scene.. You dont realize how many potential drug abusers would be out there? If people advocate getting shitfaced on dope, then our other generations would continue the chain. Plain simple!

It's funny because whether weed is illegal or not... there are drug users and drug dealers, who are losing lives to gunfire and gang fights. If we make marijuana legal, we can let a lot of innocent people out of jail and save money. If marijuana is legally sold and taxed, that will further help the economy. And just because weed will be legal, does not mean that there will be more stoners. I, for instance, choose to not smoke marijuana... whether it is illegal or not. I don't care what other people choose to smoke or not smoke. It's none of my business.

[aperson444]

Most people actually know thier limits when it comes to alcohol, and a slight amount of it like wine is considered healthy.
I think we should get rid of all drugs, dope isnt as harmfull as pot or ciggs, but it still advocates the drug scene.. You dont realize how many potential drug abusers would be out there? If people advocate getting shitfaced on dope, then our other generations would continue the chain. Plain simple!

You can't nor ever will "get rid" of drugs. Use psychoactive drugs are an innate human activity. It's a major theory in sociology that all humans since the beginning of history have used some psychoactive drug or another. In general, more intelligent/intellectual people are more prone to using drugs as it allows expansion of their mind beyond what could humanly be possible.

Weed is one of the most harmless psychoactive/biologically active materials around. This is well known.