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louisgray
August 23rd, 2011, 05:11 AM
Do you think it is a little over the top now a days ,??

Edit,major spelling fail in the title

embers
August 23rd, 2011, 05:12 AM
Yes. My brother was stopped at Stansted airport - because he's brown, was wearing a scarf, carrying a bag, and looking angry because the flight was delayed. Obviously he was going to be stopped.

scuba steve
August 23rd, 2011, 05:34 AM
It's nice how the Northern Irish get an extra little scan through because we're all terrorists.

Infidelitas
August 23rd, 2011, 05:45 AM
Well seeing that I got through Hobart Airport with a pair of nail scissors suggest there isn't enough security. But in high security airports, I think its necessary with whats happened

louisgray
August 23rd, 2011, 06:06 AM
Ye,but I ain't gonna have a bomb in a 1cm penny

User Deleted
August 23rd, 2011, 09:24 AM
Never mention this topic to my dad. He gets all rant-y and yell-y and bleh. He goes on and on about how it is so bad and lame and overdone.

At this point to me it is what it is. And it is almost fun. You get a ticket. You go through the little scan-y thing. Then for the rest you just whip out a book or handheld gaming device.

DerBear
August 23rd, 2011, 01:14 PM
its fine they do a good job 9/10 times

Tango
August 23rd, 2011, 02:23 PM
I would rather everyone get searched, then 200+ people die from a bomb.

embers
August 23rd, 2011, 02:29 PM
I would rather everyone get searched, then 200+ people die from a bomb.

I'd rather everyone get their fair share of stop searches, than it mostly being us dirty ragheads.

trooneh
August 23rd, 2011, 02:51 PM
It can be, but if it does prevent another terrorist attack, then honestly, it isn't over the top. Being through a full-body scanner is minimal, to be honest, in my opinion. A small price to pay for your safety.

crazyhyperway
August 23rd, 2011, 07:47 PM
I think the precautions are a little overdone in some airports.

Sugaree
August 23rd, 2011, 07:56 PM
Terrorists: 1
Rest of World: 0

Modus Operandi
August 23rd, 2011, 08:06 PM
It can be, but if it does prevent another terrorist attack, then honestly, it isn't over the top. Being through a full-body scanner is minimal, to be honest, in my opinion. A small price to pay for your safety.

This is a dangerous road to go down. If we're comfortable accepting forms of blatant privacy invasion to "keep us safe" then the government(s) could continue to monitor us more and more to "keep us safe." Get my drift?

Taylorxbox
August 23rd, 2011, 09:10 PM
I think they are doing a great job. Yes, it takes longer to get through the line and even kids get stopped, but when you really think about it, they are just doing their jobs. Now yes, they could be stopping someone other than kids, but if they find them suspicious, let them search. I think it is perfect right now, good job TSA

Sugaree
August 23rd, 2011, 09:18 PM
I think they are doing a great job. Yes, it takes longer to get through the line and even kids get stopped, but when you really think about it, they are just doing their jobs. Now yes, they could be stopping someone other than kids, but if they find them suspicious, let them search. I think it is perfect right now, good job TSA

>good job
>TSA

Choose.

Ender
August 23rd, 2011, 09:46 PM
There is a line between random security check and full cavity check & full body scan.

I feel a light pat down after walking through the metal detector is acceptable, but if nothing is found after those two precautions, dont fucking touch me.

crzy15
August 23rd, 2011, 09:50 PM
I dont mind it. It's just something we have to get used to.

Angel Androgynous
August 23rd, 2011, 09:58 PM
What pisses me off is that USA airports were considering racial profiling... if you are gonna do searches, then search everyone.... I still find it a little over the top. When we were flying to the USA, my mother got her tweezers and nail scissors taken away. :|

TheMatrix
August 23rd, 2011, 11:31 PM
Fixed the title for you ;)

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I haven't had a chance to experience the new ones yet, but from what my friends and family have told me, it's bad.

HaydenM
August 24th, 2011, 03:04 AM
now i know racial profiling is kinda by definition wrong, but if the main amount of terrorists are of muslim decent sure you will scan the jew and the white guy and the pohm, but you will of coarse pay attention abit more to the muslim. If you didnt it would be stupid.

pineinchneis
August 24th, 2011, 06:28 AM
at frankfurt airport i just came of a flight from heathrow, bought a bottle of water and cldnt take it through security on my next flight to beijing (which was connecting)! How the fuck could i have got a bomb through heathrow and frankfurt??
Then when i arrived at beijing they still had the swine flu scanners!! The teacher told all 90 of us to walk through in one big group becasue another trip to china from a school in the same town as mine was quarantined to their hotel in beijing because one person failed scanner!!
So yes you can go ott

Julien7
August 24th, 2011, 06:37 AM
it looks like alot but its actually a joke if you really have planned something its just there scaring those off who do have stupid ideas

embers
August 24th, 2011, 06:49 AM
now i know racial profiling is kinda by definition wrong, but if the main amount of terrorists are of muslim decent sure you will scan the jew and the white guy and the pohm, but you will of coarse pay attention abit more to the muslim. If you didnt it would be stupid.

most terrorism in america and europe hasn't been committed by Muslims. It's just 9/11's aftermath that defines the term 'paranoia'.

Honestly, I insist that everybody get their fair share of searches. I hate that a Muslim, or a brown person in general (they could be fucking indian) is stopped, more often than any other race. It's a fucking joke.

Giles
August 24th, 2011, 08:03 AM
I haven't experienced them yet but my thoughts on anything to do with airport security is that - I'd rather have to arrive earlier and go through the extra security measures than arrive a bit later and get killed or put other people in danger.

DerBear
August 24th, 2011, 10:21 AM
I'd rather everyone get their fair share of stop searches, than it mostly being us dirty ragheads.

to be fair my dad got stopped and so did the man behind me as well and they were both pale as a gohst.

I suppose its really a matter of if you care or not and thinkiing that it is only coloured people who get searched is a wrong view. Also it does not help that majority of planes that have had terrorist activitys happen to it i.e a bomb it has mostly been coloured people (not being racist here) So i guess they sterotype whitch i have no issue for when it comes to saftey it may be a bit of an offense to other people but to me its just saftey

better to steryotype and be safe that to not and pay the price

(sorry if this offends anyone I am just trying to make my point of steryotyping)

Iris
August 24th, 2011, 10:27 AM
I've been on planes 8 times in my life (there and back, so 4 destinations). Six of those times was going to or leaving from Israel, which has extremely tight security. Once we were pulled over, and my mother's entire suitcase was emptied, just because she had a fan in there, and it somehow looked suspicious. We almost missed our flight. But I would do this over and over if there was the slightest chance that one of those times that security is doing their searches and checks, they actually find a real terrorist. It's annoying, frustrating and uncomfortable, but at the end of the day I felt much safer on the plane, and maybe somewhere a terrorist was apprehended.

embers
August 24th, 2011, 12:31 PM
I suppose its really a matter of if you care or not and thinkiing that it is only coloured people who get searched is a wrong view. Also it does not help that majority of planes that have had terrorist activitys happen to it i.e a bomb it has mostly been coloured people (not being racist here) So i guess they sterotype whitch i have no issue for when it comes to saftey it may be a bit of an offense to other people but to me its just saftey

I understand the mentality that coloured/muslim people are more prominent in contemporary terrorism, however that still gives little reason to stop and search most brown people and a much fewer amount of white people. I mean, stop and search / send through security an equal amount of people. My brother got stopped and (before they realised he was with us) nearly searched just for looking angry, wearing a scarf and carrying a bag.

I just wish people would get the fucking stereotypes out of their heads.

DerBear
August 24th, 2011, 01:43 PM
I understand the mentality that coloured/muslim people are more prominent in contemporary terrorism, however that still gives little reason to stop and search most brown people and a much fewer amount of white people. I mean, stop and search / send through security an equal amount of people. My brother got stopped and (before they realised he was with us) nearly searched just for looking angry, wearing a scarf and carrying a bag.

I just wish people would get the fucking stereotypes out of their heads.

I know but again i dont care if they stop 1000 white guys or 1000 coloured guys I care about not dying in some explosion therefor yes its anoying and yes its bad to steryotype but in this case i dont think it is a bad idea to steryotype also they will search anyone that looks even remotley suspicous

Also as for you saying that you would like for people to get the fucking steryotypes out of there head..
People dont forget
9/11
London bomings
lockerbie bombing

events like this are not so easy to erase so therefor in many ways I love that in this case we steryotype

Azunite
August 24th, 2011, 02:01 PM
Anything related to security force is paranoid in the US. Seriously.

They make you remove your shoes just because a Pakistani once smuggled explosive liquid in his shoes.

huginnmuninn
August 24th, 2011, 05:21 PM
tbh id rather keep my privacy and be scared than be in a "happy safe" place where i have no rights to privacy

SosbanFach
August 24th, 2011, 05:28 PM
Anything related to security force is paranoid in the US. Seriously.

It's true! My friend's father was handcuffed and questioned in an American airport for having nail scissors in his trouser pocket. Utterly ridiculous. What's he going to do? Stab someone?

Giles
August 24th, 2011, 06:11 PM
What's he going to do? Stab someone?

Yes...?

Sebastian Michaelis
August 24th, 2011, 06:17 PM
My family and I travel quite a bit, once or twice a year, and I think it is overdone. I've only had to go through the full body scanner once and I'd rather not be exposed to any amount of radiation. The pat downs are also very unnecessary. I'm pretty sure no guy is going to strap a bomb to his ball sack anytime soon.

embers
August 25th, 2011, 06:25 AM
I'm pretty sure no guy is going to strap a bomb to his ball sack anytime soon.

On the contrary... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northwest_Airlines_Flight_253)

TaNei
August 25th, 2011, 09:52 AM
I think all the security measures are necessary, and if you know how all of them work, you pass them very quickly

Sugaree
August 25th, 2011, 08:07 PM
now i know racial profiling is kinda by definition wrong, but if the main amount of terrorists are of muslim decent sure you will scan the jew and the white guy and the pohm, but you will of coarse pay attention abit more to the muslim. If you didnt it would be stupid.

So you're saying that racial profiling is wrong, but it's A-OK when you racially profile a Muslim.

I think all the security measures are necessary, and if you know how all of them work, you pass them very quickly

No, they aren't. Going through a metal detector and having a short pat down is all that is necessary. You don't need to go through a full body scan which leaves absolutely nothing to the imagination. When it comes down to the government observing a flier's naked body through a monitor, it's gone too far.

HaydenM
August 26th, 2011, 04:33 AM
So you're saying that racial profiling is wrong, but it's A-OK when you racially profile a Muslim.




No, if you read what I said I said the prolific terrorists, has nothing to do with Islam. If the prolific terrorists were middle age white guys, give them another pass with security, if its Buddhist monks, search them again. I never mentioned Islam at all.

Baby_James94
August 26th, 2011, 10:55 AM
Yes and no. Certain airports are ridiculous and single people out of the entire airport simply because they don't 'fit in'. I'm sorry but I think a terrorist is going to be smart enough, especially now to look more 'normal' (whatever that is). But i'm uncomfortable flying as it is so I can't complain to much.

Malcolm Tucker
August 26th, 2011, 11:39 AM
No, they aren't. Going through a metal detector and having a short pat down is all that is necessary. You don't need to go through a full body scan which leaves absolutely nothing to the imagination. When it comes down to the government observing a flier's naked body through a monitor, it's gone too far.

There was a time, and there still are people who believe that being patted down is going too far, and that it's excessive. You will always get people who think it's "excessive" no matter what they do. The TSA can't win, ever.

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Personally, I really don't care what measures they take so long as it ensures the safety of the people flying. As someone who is definitely going to be living their life in the sky, on passenger aircraft, I can say that I am 100% fine with being scanned daily. It doesn't guarantee safety, but it does it a LOT better than how it was in previous years.

It's not like it's a surprise - that you turn up at the airport and are sneakily thrown through a scanner. You know full well what to expect. If you think it's "excessive" or whatever, then don't fly. It's that simple. No one is forcing you to fly, you sign up for this when you pay the fare. It's security, no one is going to post "Airport Security Porn" on the internet. It is a step towards securing safety, of you and all the others flying that day. As a crew member, I would feel a lot safer in the knowledge that my passengers have been scanned and checked fully. I think everyone would prefer that over another NW 253.

Baby_James94
August 26th, 2011, 11:41 AM
There was a time, and there still are people who believe that being patted down is going too far, and that it's excessive. You will always get people who think it's "excessive" no matter what they do. The TSA can't win, ever.

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Personally, I really don't care what measures they take so long as it ensures the safety of the people flying. As someone who is definitely going to be living their life in the sky, on passenger aircraft, I can say that I am 100% fine with being scanned daily. It doesn't guarantee safety, but it does it a LOT better than how it was in previous years.

It's not like it's a surprise - that you turn up at the airport and are sneakily thrown through a scanner. You know full well what to expect. If you think it's "excessive" or whatever, then don't fly. It's that simple. No one is forcing you to fly, you sign up for this when you pay the fare. It's security, no one is going to post "Airport Security Porn" on the internet. It is a step towards securing safety, of you and all the others flying that day. As a crew member, I would feel a lot safer in the knowledge that my passengers have been scanned and checked fully. I think everyone would prefer that over another NW 253.

Great point.

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Lucy the looney
August 26th, 2011, 05:33 PM
Eugh,I hate it

crazyhyperway
August 26th, 2011, 09:22 PM
Eugh,I hate it

eventually it will come in a big handy

huginnmuninn
August 27th, 2011, 08:55 AM
the best way for a government to gain complete control over its people is to use the peoples fear or anger as an excuse to slowly take away the peoples rights until theres nothing the people can do anymore to stop them from taking those rights.

Im not saying that its a bad thing that people can be strip searched just so they can ride on a plane but im saying that its important to make sure we dont let our governments gain too much control over what happens.

Or i may be paranoid...

crazyhyperway
August 27th, 2011, 01:23 PM
I think It keeps bombs off planes, It actually has stopped various people from gettnig on a plane with guns or bombs. If you want me to show you, just ask

joeyjorulz
August 28th, 2011, 08:53 AM
Place: Vancouver BC
time: winter olympics

when departing during this time I had an OJ and water bottle just purchased confiscated. Same drinks could be purchased at the next shop while waiting for departure. I was pissed at the stupidity of it all.


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Neptune
August 29th, 2011, 08:19 PM
It's annoying but I guess it's for the safety of the passengers.

Sporadica
August 30th, 2011, 04:51 AM
I believe it is but I know there is really nothing to combat it, because int he end it's our choice to take a plane ride and if we want to ride a plane we have to put up with the BS.

We can take the bus, drive or ride in a car, or even walk or bike.

I noticed that in the USA the TSA has their own codes and the airport is also patrolled by local police and Lazlow Jones said that in the airport he saw the intercom shouted "Code Red" and the police were all like "wtf does that mean?" and the TSA was running around and the police had no idea what was going on.

In Canada the same thing happens, the RCMP are left clueless when security is running around crazilly.

I personally think the body scanners are absolutely rediculous, thankfully in Canada local travel and travel to countries beside the USA don't have scanners

I really only travel locally, it's cheaper and easier

danny7
December 28th, 2011, 09:02 PM
well, when my dad comes bak from a country and bak in U.S. they always have to interview him because of his name "Jose Perez" apparently there are ALOOTTT of criminal records for someone[s] by dat name.. lol. its crazy n da airport security is wak

TheMatrix
December 29th, 2011, 04:06 AM
well, when my dad comes bak from a country and bak in U.S. they always have to interview him because of his name "Jose Perez" apparently there are ALOOTTT of criminal records for someone[s] by dat name.. lol. its crazy n da airport security is wak
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