Gay Bashing: HELP!!!

[Ironic Infidel In England]

Right, I am a christian, and I believe that there is NOTHING wrong with bisexuals and homosexuals (how could I? I'm bi myself!). My freind at school who goes to my church is a real "holy Joe" and goes with every word the bible says. However, whenever I have casully dropped a hint about gays/Bis, he says that he reckons that God has nothing against them.

So I came out to him today after church, and he freaked out. he went crazy, and was all like: (and I quote) "you F*CKING FAGGOT!! get AWAY from me, you queer POOF!! Stay the f*ck AWAY from me, and my church, or i'll Bl**dy F*uckin' kill you, you Sh*t-eating FREAK!!"

The main problem is his dad is a bishop, and he's a Homophobe, and could ban me from church, but I really like my church, because (other that this) everything about it is pretty laid back and liberal, and I feel really comfortable there.

What can I do?

[dannyley]

I would probably try to talk 2 him about it, calmy ask him for a word and talk to him about it.


[What has this got 2 do with puberty?]

Doesnt it belong in the gay bar or relationships and dating?

[tjd154]

If this was me I would probably have to try really hard not to kick his ass right there. I think it's probably harder for me to relate to this because i don't believe in religion as a concept but I would stay away from him, he obviously has some kind of warped views that are going to be hard for you to change.

[Dante]

It sucks that you're "friend" said those things to you ,but it shows that he isnt really you're friend(stay away from people who are like that). They cannot kick you out of the church because you're gay.

[Ironic Infidel In England]

Unfortunately, I think they might be able to. At the very least his dad could try the church against me. I mean, who are they going to believe, a 14 year old "faggot" or a bishop?

[Cap'nCrunch]

That sounds like a really shitty situation. If you don't mind compromising your morals, you can deny that you're gay and call him a liar.

And, honestly, if you're gay, no divisions of Christianity that I can think of are going to accept you. If you can accept that, don't go to Church anymore. You don't need to belong to an organized religion to praise God.

[Ironic Infidel In England]

My church is cool with most things people do these days, including all sexualities. Ever heard of mordernists? That's me. However, if a bishop tells my church that I tried to anally rape his son, I'll not be welcome there anymore. (For the record, I didn't even come on to him, much less try to get off with him.)

[Maverick]

Don't worry about it. Just go to church normally and ignore that kid (which such a hypocrite btw for swearing like that being "holy"). You're worrying over nothing. Just don't let it bother you.

[floobydee]

Im bi and still manage to get 2 church fine, but it realy don't help if you make a scene of urself. although i belong to a non-conformist denomanation, so thats different. anglicans anret that friendly to homo's or bi's, but catholocs despise them, (or atleast where i live they do)

[Ironic Infidel In England]

School today was hell. I was still in the closet, but not anymore, oh no. He made sure of that! He was practically yelling my secret form the treetops. I had the stuffing beaten out of me twice today and have been assured that they (the homophobes) will "f*ck me up every day from now till forever." Oh, I feel like rubbish! Someone show me that there's still point in living, because I can't find it on my own.

[Everglow]

i'm shocked...i'm so sorry about what happened to you today...i don't know what to say, but life is so important, regarless of what you're feeling right now. i can only imagine how difficult this is for you. i've never been in this type of situation before, so i really can't relate too much. sexuality struggles are always difficult though..i'm bi and lots of people know, but it was so hard to come out about it to my friends and to come to terms with myself. before i accepted it, i went through spurs of depression and self hate; i tried to kill myself, more than once, and almost succeeded in doing so. then i met my amazing boyfriend. he has shown me that i do have worth and that people like me for who i am, not just for my sexuality. more importantly, he taught me that life is definately worth living. he has always been there for me through all of my struggles since we have been together. he is my support when i feel like i have none and he loves me for who i am. because of him, i have become the real me.

if you ever feel like you need someone to talk to, but no one happens to be there, you can pm or IM me at any time, or whenever you want to.

i wish you the best of luck

[Ironic Infidel In England]

Thankyou. I'm afraid I'm going to have to print that out and take it with me to school tomorrow to keep me going, so I hope you don't mind. By the way, I didn't manage to hang myself, (rope was cut by my helpful and loving little brother) so I'm still here. Don't know whether to laugh or cry.

[Everglow]

i don't mind at all. i really hope that you can get though this. i know it's tough, so i'm here for you if you ever need anything :) i am so glad that your brother cut the rope! your life is so special to so many people.

i wish you all the best tomorrow!

hit me up if you just want to talk

[Ironic Infidel In England]

oh my god my life is crashing down aroung me two of my closest freinds commited suicide today and one cut hand off in front of me oh god I just found out i'm schizo and i'm having the shit kicked out of me at school for something that isn't my fault or even wrong oh what is the fucking point in life???

[rEpReSsIoN.?]

shit thats crap mate... dude you should look after yourself killing yourself isn't the way out
grieving for you friends now is the best thing... you will get through this you will survive you are not over yet... look after your friends and yourself... never be ashamed of who you are... what are the teacher doing?... it won't b like this for ever once you leave school or go to college and then university you will b accepted more... this hell will not go on forever

[Maverick]

oh my god my life is crashing down aroung me two of my closest freinds commited suicide today and one cut hand off in front of me oh god I just found out i'm schizo and i'm having the shit kicked out of me at school for something that isn't my fault or even wrong oh what is the fucking point in life???
I'm having a hard time believing that.

[Dameon]

I'm having a hard time believing that.


Well the kid's 14 try NOT to patronize him!:(
If it isn't true, it's on his consience.
If it is true then he's having a hell of a hard time and I don't think you should add to it. This should be a haven for him, not another place to be ridiculed!:mad:
Regardless if you believe it, the poor kid is SCREAMING for help. For you (anyone) to say something for kicks, for fun..............If I sound :mad: ANGRY that's because I AM:mad: . I lost MY BEST FREIND TO GAY BASHING!!!!! He commited suicide and I couldn't stop him. So yeah I'm a little sensitive to the subject Ironic Infidel my heart goes out to you







:mad: HAVE A HARD TIME BELIEVING THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Maverick]

Calm down. I wasn't rude in my post so your rudeness isn't justified. Grow up.

[Ironic Infidel In England]

I was serious, but thanks to a PM from jma08 I didn't commit suicide, and have also stopped cutting. Thanks for all your help guys, I will now give an update on situation.

The homophobes aren't beating me up anymore since I broke one of their noses, and noone is bashing me to my face, but there are still whisperings when people see me, but that I can deal with, an I miss some school now to go to a shrink, so, all in all, a LOT better than it was.

Once again, thanks.

[Maverick]

Right. and this is after two friends committed suicide and cut off their hand in front of you am I correct?

[Everglow]

I was serious, but thanks to a PM from jma08 I didn't commit suicide, and have also stopped cutting. Thanks for all your help guys, I will now give an update on situation.

The homophobes aren't beating me up anymore since I broke one of their noses, and noone is bashing me to my face, but there are still whisperings when people see me, but that I can deal with, an I miss some school now to go to a shrink, so, all in all, a LOT better than it was.

Once again, thanks.


Sorry Anthony...I have to disregard your post...because I've had contact with Ironic Infidel and I know what he is about....Please just leave him alone if you have nothing positive to say.

Ironic Infidel...I can't tell you how many times I wake up in the morning feeling great, knowing that you are a success in the making!!! Props to you my friend. omg!!!!! way to go with the homophobes!!! ahhh, if I had the strength to do that...ohhh...seriously, great job man..they totally deserved it for giving shit to you. ooohh I wish I was there...lol Yes, whisperings are annoying...but you'll get over them in no time. Then eventually, people will stop talking crap about you. (don't you have a girlfriend?) anyway...I'm so glad things are getting better for you :) Good luck with the therapy tomorrow man. I know it's hard and very uncomfortable to spill your thoughts all over a total stranger, face to face. lol I hate my shrink...I'm definately getting a new one...

keep me...lol and us posted!!! take care man...have a good day tomorrow

you are so, very welcome!!! thank you for having the strength to believe in yourself

[Maverick]

If I suspect someone is trying to bullshit people on this site I'm going to call him/her out on it. Go right ahead and disregard it and continue to be gullible. You're entiled to do that but you have no right to tell me what I can or cannot do. You've been on this site less than 20 days.

[Bobby]

Everyone, calm down about this whole "I don't Believe you" situation. If you have any other comments, or complaints, PM me. If you would like to apologize to eachother, then use PM not this thread.

[Maverick]

Learn to stay out of things Bobby. Your intervention isn't needed every time there is a little difference of opinion between members. Everyone is calm and being mature about it. Private messaging you won't solve anything.

[Ironic Infidel In England]

look, why the fuck would I or anyone else lie about someting like this?
That's just stupid. and about my freind who cut her hand off in front of me, she had a huge argument with someone after being depressed for ages and stuck her hand in the hegnasaw.

I don't want to talk about that again so please don't bring it up.

<edit>
also, if I was BSing this site, would I give out serious advice to others? I think not. Oh but wait, I have done that haven't I?

Please think before you question wheter I am serious or not.

[Maverick]

I did think hence why I don't believe you. I don't know why you lie but you wouldn't be the first to do it. You probably want those "issues" you lied about not brought up again because you can't lie well enough to think of a convincing story. You may have gave advice but that doesn't mean you're not a liar. I've sure people who give advice lie, too.

[Ironic Infidel In England]

Fine. If you want to think that then think that, but keep your opinion for yourself. I will continue to post advice, but if I need help I will PM people like Jma08 who are here to help, not just to say people are BSing. to be honest, I don't know how come you haven't been banned if you go around saying things like that.

[Maverick]

No one has banned me because I haven't done anything that would require one. I don't go around accusing people of lying unless I have a reasonable suspicion of it. Anyway, I've said enough here.

[Ironic Infidel In England]

Fair enough. For the record what I said was out of order, and I apologise for being abusive.

[Everglow]

Thanks Ironic Infidel for being the better person.

[Maverick]

*sigh* and no thanks to you for getting involved, jma08. I do accept your apology but I still don't believe you. I honestly can't say I'm sorry in return because I think you're lying so I have no clue what to be sorry for.

[rEpReSsIoN.?]

hmmm we should help everyone regardless of the story who knows it could be true so I'm going 2 help to the best of my abilities and if hes lying then hes just used me as people do, but im going 2 trust him and try to help if he wants my advice whenever

[Everglow]

*sigh* and no thanks to you for getting involved, jma08. I do accept your apology but I still don't believe you. I honestly can't say I'm sorry in return because I think you're lying so I have no clue what to be sorry for.

oh..i'm sorry...you seemed to be attacking someone who i happen to care about...did i hurt your feelings?

hmmm...you could apologize for your rude behavior

oh..i never said i was a 'cure all' i was just sticking up for a friend

in reference to your other post...which expresses your malcontent with me...

huh...i'm sorry, i neither have gullible nor asshole written across my forehead...heh...same goes for you too chief...you're not a mod

[Bobby]

Please, stop fighting.

[Maverick]

Honestly if you want to get the last word in fine. I've already made my points so just drop it already.

[Ironic Infidel In England]

no more needs to be said here. {request lock}

[Dameon]

No one has banned me because I haven't done anything that would require one. I don't go around accusing people of lying unless I have a reasonable suspicion of it. Anyway, I've said enough here.


WHY was he even here for? Doesn't he have a life?:eek:
Does he have nothing better to do then cause other people strife?
People like that make me so.....so..........well they PISS me off!:mad:
I don't think the point is whether or not I.I. ( Ironic Inf.........) is telling the truth ( although I DO believe you:yes: ), the point is that you needed help and you got it. :lol:
THAT"S ALL THAT MATTERS!:D
Anthony, grow up man. Really! :yeah:Karma has a habit of biting you in the @$$:P

I.I., your a great person and I hope you live a long ( very,very,very LONG), happy life.:lol:

[*lynn*]

wow...this got intense...i hope it's over now...

:)

although i have to admit (Ironic I believed you, this has nothing to do with you, i promise!) that the whole fighting thing made me laugh...it was just too funny!

[phily08]

Try talking to the preist.Casually ask him what he thinks about gays/bisexuals,if he seems ok,then drop a small hint about you being bi.If he acts like your "so called friend" just dont go to that church anymore.God respects you anywere.

Im bi too, pm me any time

[Scarface]

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