Youth views on Christianity

[shizzler6]

Let's make some stuff clear. I am a Christian. I believe in god. Big deal. Why does this need to mean that I must hate gays and be a textbook liberal? I think that the media has blown everything out of proportion! The majority of christains are ok with gays, save some extreme freaking tea partiers , and they are all you ever hear about. So spare the "christains are ruining the world" bullshit. You wouldn't say that to a Hindu or Muslim. And if you think we are ruining the world then you are being too close minded to look farther into it

[Sage]

The problem lies in you being okay with homosexuality in spite of your religion, not becuase of it.

[judahtics]

a stereotypical christian would actually be seen as a republican, not democrat.

also, most christians are against homosexuality, maybe not openly, but if they agree, they don't agree with the bible.

and if you are stuck on your way is the only right way, you are closed minded as well.

[Sugaree]

OP, you're one of the Christians I can actually stand. However, what more do you expect people to think when the extreme right winged Christians come out to spew their bigotry? It isn't fair that a religion is being represented like that, just like how Islam is represented by jihadists.

My views on Christianity are the same as all religions: part of it is good and part of it is bad. There's nothing wrong with associating yourself with a religion and following it. Just be aware that people will view you as a close minded person with a hatred of anything not in the Bible. As far as I'm concerned, you're kindly welcomed by me.

[JackOfClubs]

I'm Christian, am completely fine with homosexuality, and am a democrat. As are both of my parents.

[judahtics]

I'm Christian, am completely fine with homosexuality, and am a democrat. As are both of my parents.

in a way that's contradictory, but it also comes down to how much faith and obedience you put into the bible.

[Sugaree]

in a way that's contradictory, but it also comes down to how much faith and obedience you put into the bible.

How is it contradictory? You're stereotyping Christians. You said it yourself that most of them are homophobic and Republicans. Does a human being not have free will? Can a Christian not support gay rights or be a liberal? Perhaps that's too much to comprehend for some.

[judahtics]

i never said christians were homophobic, at all. i know plenty of people who are christians and not homophobic, but also don't agree with homosexuality. as far as contradictory, i'd actually have to have a better view of your beliefs, so really, i spoke prematurely.

[Sugaree]

as far as contradictory, i'd actually have to have a better view of your beliefs, so really, i spoke prematurely.

I'm agnostic, but I don't see how it really matters.

[judahtics]

well according to the bible, you must be obedient if you love God. by disobedience you show a lack of love and by a lack of disobedience a lack of faith. without faith you can not please God. - this is all biblical, sorry i can't quote where, but i can find out - the bible says some things are not allowed, men lying with men and women with women. because of that fact, oking and promoting homosexuality would be in direct disobedience. it would also be leading another person to think sins against the body are ok and that this is acceptable.

im not a christian and do not live by these standards. i'm simply speaking on the side of christianity


I'm agnostic, but I don't see how it really matters.

with agonstics, you don't believe there is a way to tell if there is a God and even there is he would have no interest in man? correct? i like to know what people believe.

[dontcare97]

I don't think my religion has anything to do with my social or political beliefs. Ironically it was my religion that lead me to make the choices and opinions I have. It taught me to be tolerant, to accept people, and do the right thing.

Religion is more of personal meaning then state rules everyone follows. People take what they want from Christianity.

[judahtics]

i agree, but at that point, they aren't christians, they are people living using christian principles.

[Kahn]

I think you mean conservative, not liberal.

[Angel Androgynous]

Christians like you are cool, but unfortunately it's the bible thumping bigots that shout the loudest and give the rest of them a bad name. I don't hate religious people like you, but I hate bible thumpers with a passion...

[judahtics]

Christians like you are cool, but unfortunately it's the bible thumping bigots that shout the loudest and give the rest of them a bad name. I don't hate religious people like you, but I hate bible thumpers with a passion...

agree

[Bougainvillea]

well according to the bible, you must be obedient if you love God. by disobedience you show a lack of love and by a lack of disobedience a lack of faith. without faith you can not please God. - this is all biblical, sorry i can't quote where, but i can find out - the bible says some things are not allowed, men lying with men and women with women. because of that fact, oking and promoting homosexuality would be in direct disobedience. it would also be leading another person to think sins against the body are ok and that this is acceptable
Well, see. That's the thing. Some people like to pick and choose what parts of the bible they like to pubically uphold. Because its obvious to some that God was just kidding when it came to the parts they don't like.

[judahtics]

Well, see. That's the thing. Some people like to pick and choose what parts of the bible they like to pubically uphold. Because its obvious to some that God was just kidding when it came to the parts they don't like.

and those people aren't christians, they simply think they are. a true bible believing christian, takes the whole bible in it's entirety to heart. now some denominations don't take it all, methodist and others. i'm not sure all which ones, but i know methodist, that's why i mentioned it.

[Bougainvillea]

and those people aren't christians, they simply think they are. a true bible believing christian, takes the whole bible in it's entirety to heart. now some denominations don't take it all, methodist and others. i'm not sure all which ones, but i know methodist, that's why i mentioned it.

Then there is no such thing as a true Christian.

[judahtics]

Then there is no such thing as a true Christian.

there is a true biblical christian, however, it's very rare to find.

[Azunite]

It's Paganism. It's all worshipping to a cross and small statues of Jesus.

[DerBear]

You see the problem is that it does state in the holy book that gays are to put it simpl,y not right------(i do not beleive this as i have no problem with gays at all)

I think it comes down to you as an person

Thats why i find religon hard to follow as it basiclly wants you to have the same morals and views when we are our own person

[judahtics]

that's what religion is, a set of morals and values that provide a re connection to God. christianity is the most absurd to me, but there are others as well. i say believe what you want, i'll believe what i want and we don't have to force anything on anyone.

[AltoVaughn]

There are exceptions to every thing.
1. I know some truly loving Christians.
2. I HATE the catholic church.... I mean not promoting the use of condoms in the fight against aids.... Really....Really....
3. Why Can't Pagans take over the World :( (someone please make this happen ! )

[Sage]

It's Paganism. It's all worshipping to a cross and small statues of Jesus.

Not quite, I would say it's idolatry, which is a sin. Pretty grave sin at that.

[Perseus]

Well, you see, Hindus don't go around trying to make gay people not gay and hate them. So bad example on your part. And Muslims are all ready prejudiced against in this country. And you're going against what the Bible says, anyway.

[Dorsum Oppel]

If you wanna worship the zombie jesus, and you're not a dick about it, whatever. Awesome for you, have fun. Personally, I would never be christian as christianty is basically the moral antithesis of my beleifs, but if that's what makes you happy, then kudos.

It's Paganism. It's all worshipping to a cross and small statues of Jesus.
The word you're looking for is Idolism. That's also a misguided, very often untrue and generalistic statement which is entirely irrelevant to the discussion.

[Syvelocin]

What I don't understand is the need to label your religious beliefs. Beyond adjectives like theist, atheist, etc. It's great if the religion matches your beliefs exactly, but there's some need for people to be a part of a group. If you have exceptions to your religion, you're really saying "I'm Christian, but I'm not." Religion is such a private and special thing. You can mix and match beliefs, make it your own. My psychologist, she believes that God is an energy that you have inside you. She believes that angels exist, and in reincarnation. She uses the pentagram as a symbol of protection. I've never met someone with such a hybrid religion. But I admire her for that. And that's her beliefs. She's not Christian, Buddhist, Wiccan, Hindu. She's secure enough in her own beliefs that she can figure out what she really believes for herself instead of taking up every single rule of one religion, or changing something but still saying that you're that religion when you clearly aren't.

That's just my own thoughts on it.

[egotistic]

What I don't understand is the need to label your religious beliefs. Beyond adjectives like theist, atheist, etc. It's great if the religion matches your beliefs exactly, but there's some need for people to be a part of a group. If you have exceptions to your religion, you're really saying "I'm Christian, but I'm not." Religion is such a private and special thing. You can mix and match beliefs, make it your own. My psychologist, she believes that God is an energy that you have inside you. She believes that angels exist, and in reincarnation. She uses the pentagram as a symbol of protection. I've never met someone with such a hybrid religion. But I admire her for that. And that's her beliefs. She's not Christian, Buddhist, Wiccan, Hindu. She's secure enough in her own beliefs that she can figure out what she really believes for herself instead of taking up every single rule of one religion, or changing something but still saying that you're that religion when you clearly aren't.

That's just my own thoughts on it.

we label people because there are different religion how can we all be the same thing

[RoseyCadaver]

The word you're looking for is Idolism. That's also a misguided, very often untrue and generalistic statement which is entirely irrelevant to the discussion.

:thumbsup:

I personally have no likes or dislikes of this religion.I was raised Catholic,now agnostic.I think people are overly judgmental to the religion.All though,I do not agree with some of it's morals,I do share some with them(not any on a point of view of other religions).People bitch too much about Christians ,saying they along with our religions are the things that retard society.I think people are scared of what's out there,so fuck no there isn't a problem with letting them believe there is some sky man watching over them.That is rather reassuring actually(minus the whole hell thing :P).

I how ever don't like in when a group of people use their religion as a hate group(against other religions or anyone who isn't hetero).I do think most Christian are how ever overly stereotyped as gay hatin' blindly flowin' Jesus freaks.I know a lot of Christians who are very tolerant,or hell accepting and welcoming of gays.

[Jess]

I'm okay with Christianity. There are a lot of things in the Bible, though, that I can't stand. but as long as you're not forcing your beliefs, you aren't saying "this happened because of GOD, that happened because of GOD, things like that", then it's okay. I can't stand extremists and bible thumpers

[Syvelocin]

we label people because there are different religion how can we all be the same thing

Did you even read my whole post?

[Dorsum Oppel]

What I don't understand is the need to label your religious beliefs. Beyond adjectives like theist, atheist, etc. It's great if the religion matches your beliefs exactly, but there's some need for people to be a part of a group. If you have exceptions to your religion, you're really saying "I'm Christian, but I'm not." Religion is such a private and special thing. You can mix and match beliefs, make it your own. My psychologist, she believes that God is an energy that you have inside you. She believes that angels exist, and in reincarnation. She uses the pentagram as a symbol of protection. I've never met someone with such a hybrid religion. But I admire her for that. And that's her beliefs. She's not Christian, Buddhist, Wiccan, Hindu. She's secure enough in her own beliefs that she can figure out what she really believes for herself instead of taking up every single rule of one religion, or changing something but still saying that you're that religion when you clearly aren't.

That's just my own thoughts on it.

I'm finding now that my beleifs are some hybrid of pantheism (just out of my love for the diverse personalities and assosiations of gods and devas and whatnot, they in which they spice up and color my personal worship), an existential self-definition journey as a take on enlightenment paths, and diverse systems of ritual ranging from pagan to hindu. Usually when one joins a religious sect, it is less out of true beleif and more out of a longing for community.

we label people because there are different religion how can we all be the same thing

Stop talking, I mean really.

[TheMatrix]

Seeing as this is turning into a debate....
TWPR :arrow: ROTW

[BFG9001]

I think all religions are bad, because they all are based on fiction.

[Angel Androgynous]

Ahhh Matrix gettin' his Mod on. (:


I think what Rith's psychologist is doing is pretty neat. C:

[Maxxie]

I dislike the fact that you have to "please" this omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent deity floating somewhere up in the sky to gain entrance into heaven instead of burning eternally in a pit of fiery brimstone.

Honestly, I think our merit in whatever afterlife there may be will be judged on our actions and compassion for others, not our belief.

[judahtics]

I dislike the fact that you have to "please" this omniscient, omnipotent, omnibenevolent deity floating somewhere up in the sky to gain entrance into heaven instead of burning eternally in a pit of fiery brimstone.

Honestly, I think our merit in whatever afterlife there may be will be judged on our actions and compassion for others, not our belief.

i guess the only way to truly find out is to die lol

[Maxxie]

i guess the only way to truly find out is to die lol

Yep. And this life's too good to fuck it up in order to get into the next one.

[Angel Androgynous]

Life's too short to live in prayer, and worrying about sins. Go out, children, have fun! Lust over things, stuff your face, plan revenge on that one kid who stole your scooter, envy that girl's diamond ring, sleep all day, don't share those crayons, and live life the way it was meant to be!

[Oli S.]

my view on christianity is that its outdated and its time to move, on we have more knowledge now.

[judahtics]

i try and respect peoples beliefs. even when it's difficult.

[HaydenM]

if you are okay with homosexuality then you are not pure christian. God created man and woman not man and man or woman and woman. That is the bible's opinion (i dont agree with it) So YOU dont agree with the bible in all its aspects.

[Angel Androgynous]

if you are okay with homosexuality then you are not pure christian. God created man and woman not man and man or woman and woman. That is the bible's opinion (i dont agree with it) So YOU dont agree with the bible in all its aspects.

The bible also says that disobedient kids, a bride who isn't a virgin, and whoever wears two different types of cloth should be stoned.

The bible also says you can sell your daughter into slavery.

I am sure that very few (if any) Christians agree with this.

[judahtics]

The bible also says that disobedient kids, a bride who isn't a virgin, and whoever wears two different types of cloth should be stoned.

The bible also says you can sell your daughter into slavery.

I am sure that very few (if any) Christians agree with this.

old testament vs new testament, old covenant vs new covenant. your point in void.

[User Deleted]

in a way that's contradictory, but it also comes down to how much faith and obedience you put into the bible.

Perfect way of putting it. Although I believe in Christianity... I believe some things are bullshit lost in translations and selfish inserts of past pastors and people with high religious influence. Sorry, if it is not the first religion, in the first language, something is wrong with it. And Christianity is neither not to mention we lost our first languages.

[Angel Androgynous]

old testament vs new testament, old covenant vs new covenant. your point in void.

I was simply stating that one cannot obey the whole bible. I know Christians who don't think that homosexuality is a sin. If you think about the time the bible was written, people back then didn't know much (in the scientific sense) and the bible provided reassurence. Because us humans are so generally paranoid/curious about new things/discovery, homosexuality made the "no-no" list in the bible. The Christians I know just use the bible as a book of (some reasonable and some horrible) morals. C: My point is, one cannot follow the bible word for word these days...but that does not make them "not Christian."

[judahtics]

I was simply stating that one cannot obey the whole bible. I know Christians who don't think that homosexuality is a sin. If you think about the time the bible was written, people back then didn't know much (in the scientific sense) and the bible provided reassurence. Because us humans are so generally paranoid/curious about new things/discovery, homosexuality made the "no-no" list in the bible. The Christians I know just use the bible as a book of (some reasonable and some horrible) morals. C: My point is, one cannot follow the bible word for word these days...but that does not make them "not Christian."

that's where you are mistaken. going directly against biblical principles, takes you out of the realm of christianity.

[Bougainvillea]

that's where you are mistaken. going directly against biblical principles, takes you out of the realm of christianity.

Well, humanity has taken quite the step since that book has been written. If that's the case, then Christianity is no more.

[judahtics]

Well, humanity has taken quite the step since that book has been written. If that's the case, then Christianity is no more.

i wouldn't disagree with that completely

[egotistic]

Did you even read my whole post?

yeah obvs i was just making a point

Stop talking, I mean really.

u cant tell me to stop ok? this is my life i can do what i want

personally i think christianity was brought down to us by god just like all other religons and were all the same in a way just differnt ways of revelations

[judahtics]

yeah obvs i was just making a point



u cant tell me to stop ok? this is my life i can do what i want

personally i think christianity was brought down to us by god just like all other religons and were all the same in a way just differnt ways of revelations

are you a universalist?

[egotistic]

wats that

[judahtics]

i think that's what you are. what you believe. basically, a universalist believes all religions come to the same end. meaning, christianity, hinduism, buddism, all of them lead to the same God, just in their own way.

[Genghis Khan]

wats that

A belief that states all religious, theological and philosophical concepts that lie in the religions of the world have some sort of meaning or truth and furthermore goes on to say that no one religion is right, but rather the teachings from each religion can be applied together and be given equal importance.

[egotistic]

i think that's what you are. what you believe. basically, a universalist believes all religions come to the same end. meaning, christianity, hinduism, buddism, all of them lead to the same God, just in their own way.

yea i guess thats me then but i do call myself a christian... andd i believe in jesus more than any of the other infact i dont believe in mahamed and the hindu god(s) i was just born this way soo..

[judahtics]

if you believe Jesus is the ONLY way, you are not a universalist.

[HaydenM]

The bible also says that disobedient kids, a bride who isn't a virgin, and whoever wears two different types of cloth should be stoned.

The bible also says you can sell your daughter into slavery.

I am sure that very few (if any) Christians agree with this.


I know this I research religion extensively. But if you are a true Christian you should still to this day believe in every one of these things. That is one of the reasons Christianity is screwed up because no Christians actually are true Christians.

[judahtics]

I know this I research religion extensively. But if you are a true Christian you should still to this day believe in every one of these things. That is one of the reasons Christianity is screwed up because no Christians actually are true Christians.

after Jesus was crucified the old law and covenant were no longer present and grace became the new covenant. that's why these things have passed away. i have also studied this extensively.

[Genghis Khan]

I know this I research religion extensively. But if you are a true Christian you should still to this day believe in every one of these things. That is one of the reasons Christianity is screwed up because no Christians actually are true Christians.

It's Atheists like you that piss me off completely. Seriously? Christianity is screwed up because people don't take their children to the city gate and stone them to death, wear clothes of the same cloth in fear that if they don't they'll go to hell, and what's more dislike homosexuals because it says so in their book?

Your beliefs will encourage Christians to take on the fundamentalist aspect of Christianity instead of the modern form [which, realistically, is what it should be if people are going to behave like decent human beings]. This gives Fundamentalists an excuse to say they're right and the modern Christians aren't true to their religion. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Faith in a certain religion [and this has been proven time, time again] is based on picking and choosing whichever bits suit you best, furthermore when society has moved on from an era the religion should [and Christianity has] move on too.

No monotheist or God worshipper should ever be encouraged to take their religion in its purest form with the argument you've posed that if they don't, they won't be true Christians. If more people like you start to put such labels on religion, Christians and Muslims will believe and practice even more backward beliefs and rituals than they already do.

Plus, some of the things Christians would do back then in Jerusalem, Israel and the Middle East in general would be for cultural and social purposes. Religion has strong ties with culture.

An overall better approach to how Christians should behave is to apply Christian teachings to today's society. Difficult as it might be, it's better than having people follow an archaic set of rules that aren't compatible with today's civilization.

[egotistic]

I think all religions are bad, because they all are based on fiction.

no they arent, proove it? every religion has truth and if you read the bible carefully youl know that only god could write it because there are some beutiful things in it that man couldnt possibly come up with

[Maxxie]

no they arent, proove it? every religion has truth and if you read the bible carefully youl know that only god could write it because there are some beutiful things in it that man couldnt possibly come up with

Zoroaster was a pretty good writer. So was Abraham. And whoever the hell Moses was.

And Brahman and Buddha are pretty cool characters too. Their teachings promise eternal salvation from mortality too.

It's not like I can't sit down and write something beautiful real quick. "And Eloh came up to the mountain, and saw the scipture written on the stone. It read "Whomsoever knows my name and reveres it will know salvation - through me, you gain eternal life." Eloh, 3:19.

So, honestly, it's not that hard to be a good writer. And please stop using circular reasoning. :D

[egotistic]

fine then u write something as good as the bible and then well see. and no the other religions were brought down by god too just in a different form :)

[HaydenM]

It's Atheists like you that piss me off completely. Seriously? Christianity is screwed up because people don't take their children to the city gate and stone them to death, wear clothes of the same cloth in fear that if they don't they'll go to hell, and what's more dislike homosexuals because it says so in their book?

Your beliefs will encourage Christians to take on the fundamentalist aspect of Christianity instead of the modern form [which, realistically, is what it should be if people are going to behave like decent human beings]. This gives Fundamentalists an excuse to say they're right and the modern Christians aren't true to their religion. Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Faith in a certain religion [and this has been proven time, time again] is based on picking and choosing whichever bits suit you best, furthermore when society has moved on from an era the religion should [and Christianity has] move on too.

No monotheist or God worshipper should ever be encouraged to take their religion in its purest form with the argument you've posed that if they don't, they won't be true Christians. If more people like you start to put such labels on religion, Christians and Muslims will believe and practice even more backward beliefs and rituals than they already do.

Plus, some of the things Christians would do back then in Jerusalem, Israel and the Middle East in general would be for cultural and social purposes. Religion has strong ties with culture.

An overall better approach to how Christians should behave is to apply Christian teachings to today's society. Difficult as it might be, it's better than having people follow an archaic set of rules that aren't compatible with today's civilization.


but that is not Christianity. It is an adaptation of it. Which means that you shouldn't be calling yourself a Christian.

If I one twenty-eighth Scottish should I call myself a Scotsman?

[ForrestBri]

Let's make some stuff clear. I am a Christian. I believe in god. Big deal. Why does this need to mean that I must hate gays and be a textbook liberal? I think that the media has blown everything out of proportion! The majority of christains are ok with gays, save some extreme freaking tea partiers , and they are all you ever hear about. So spare the "christains are ruining the world" bullshit. You wouldn't say that to a Hindu or Muslim. And if you think we are ruining the world then you are being too close minded to look farther into it
If you were a true Christian and followed the teachings of the bible, without any exception, then you would be forced into hating homosexuality. And many Christians do; it is a sort of excuse to deal with their own insecurity. It's a good job you don't take ancient myths literally; it's certainly great that you seem to hold a secular view on affairs raging today. Believe in God if you wish, but a lot of the morality in the bible has been abandoned by swift progress of time.

[Genghis Khan]

but that is not Christianity. It is an adaptation of it. Which means that you shouldn't be calling yourself a Christian.

In your view, a Christian is someone who believes in the Bible completely and that in itself is impossible because the Bible has hundreds of contradictions and no one knows which statement is true [no one knows how many sons Abraham had]. So by your analogy, it isn't possible to be a true Christian. Even going by the most basic Christian beliefs, e.g. does God dwell in the heavens or in Zion? Psalm 9:11, 76:2 and Joel 3:17, 21 state he resides in the holy mountains of Zion, whereas Psalm 123:1 and Ecclesiastes 5:2 say he's in heaven.

Another example is who is definitively for or against Jesus, Matthew 12:30 and Luke 11:23 say those who aren't with Jesus are against him whereas Mark 9:40 and Luke 9:50 say those who are not against Jesus are for him.

If I one twenty-eighth Scottish should I call myself a Scotsman?

It isn't about how other people define you, in the end people define themselves. There are third generation Pakistanis here in England that have never even been to Pakistan, don't speak the language, but still define themselves as 'Pakistani'. Probably because their ethnicity remains the same, they share something similar with Pakistani culture, could be anything really.

Similarly you can't put a label on what makes you a Christian or what makes you a Pakistani, if you've picked or possessed some basic principles of the religion, I don't see why you need to go further unless you really want to.

If you were a true Christian and followed the teachings of the bible, without any exception, then you would be forced into hating homosexuality.

It really isn't up to you or anyone else to decide what and who a true Christian is.

[egotistic]

If you were a true Christian and followed the teachings of the bible, without any exception, then you would be forced into hating homosexuality. And many Christians do; it is a sort of excuse to deal with their own insecurity. It's a good job you don't take ancient myths literally; it's certainly great that you seem to hold a secular view on affairs raging today. Believe in God if you wish, but a lot of the morality in the bible has been abandoned by swift progress of time.

were not insecure we just dont like homos because it says in our religion its wrong. accept and move on.

[shizzler6]

The point of christianity isn't to follow the Bible exactly, it is widely accepted that many parts of the bible were lost in translation and that many quotes that are metaphors are mistaken as literal.

And in the Luthran church we are taught that we can believe what we believe as long as we know Jesus was Gods son and Forgave our sins. We don't need to "appease" God. And we don't need to follow the bible exactly.

What really pisses me off is that alot of you who have probably never been to church service think you know what we believe. What they know is what they have heard on the TV, and it isn't right. So don't tell people what they are supposed to believe, cause your wrong

[Jess]

no they arent, proove it? every religion has truth and if you read the bible carefully youl know that only god could write it because there are some beutiful things in it that man couldnt possibly come up with

if God wrote it then he accepts rape, murder, and slavery. and women should be silent in church, it's an abomination for women to wear men's clothing (and vice versa) and all kinds of stupid things

[ForrestBri]

The point of christianity isn't to follow the Bible exactly, it is widely accepted that many parts of the bible were lost in translation and that many quotes that are metaphors are mistaken as literal.

And in the Luthran church we are taught that we can believe what we believe as long as we know Jesus was Gods son and Forgave our sins. We don't need to "appease" God. And we don't need to follow the bible exactly.

What really pisses me off is that alot of you who have probably never been to church service think you know what we believe. What they know is what they have heard on the TV, and it isn't right. So don't tell people what they are supposed to believe, cause your wrong A lot of Christians are stupendously uneducated about what they think they actually believe in. It is believed that less than 10% of Christians only read their bible; a lot more atheists are knowledgeable on the content of the book Christians supposedly believe.
So, really, if some passages of the bible aren't meant to be taken literally, for those passages which doesn't assume that it shouldn't be taken literally, like the creation of man, then why should any Christian take the afterlife seriously, or the Jesus myth? It doesn't say anywhere that it should not be taken seriously or that it should be viewed as a metaphor. Christianity is corrupt and a lot of people are abandoning the dogmas.

fine then u write something as good as the bible and then well see. and no the other religions were brought down by god too just in a different form :)Hmmm, if we worshiped literature for how beautiful they are written then countless authors would have their own following. Edgar Allan Poe would have a dogmatic organisation erected all over the world if that were the case. Franz Kafka would become a new religion, and the followers of Stephen King would be flying planes into building in the name of Pennywise.
If your God engendered all other religions but in different forms then they all contradict each other, and they all have different Gods. Notice that a man of a different faith could say the exact same thing about their own God.

Please do not double-post. Thanks. ~TheMatrix

[embers]

but that is not Christianity. It is an adaptation of it. Which means that you shouldn't be calling yourself a Christian.

Surely with regards to Christianity, the Old Testament's laws were made null and void because Jesus broke lots of them anyway, and he's the prime figure here.

[huginnmuninn]

man wrote the bible not god and man decided what parts got accepted and what parts were kicked out of it. so the bible is probably a very inaccurate text. there are many times throughout history where mankind has taken it upon himself to decide what was worth putting in the bible. this is why just because the bible says something that itis ok to not accept it 100% at face value. thats why if the bible says hate gays then not all christians have to hate gays.

i am an atheist but i love playing devils advocate :)

[HaydenM]

You are all just confirming that as a text the bible cannot be trusted. It says one thing does another and then it contradicts itself (often on the same page) It is hopeless and untrustworthy.

[Mewp]

I feel religious belief is something to be fought as it encourages the conception of 'faith' as a virtue, which I feel is the antithesis of human inquiry and an affront to human dignity. I have minimal intellectual respect for any member of an organised religious movement, but for the sake of brevity feel that the Abrahamic religions are the most immediate threat due to their size and subsequent political influence: which naturally includes Christianity.

So, yeah - not very receptive.

[Genghis Khan]

Bump much?

[Mewp]

That post count, Geng?

Interesting, relevant, on the first page. *whistles*

[unknownuser]

All I'm going to say is that I'm Catholic and proud.

I don't judge others. If you wanna be Buddhist, go ahead. If you wanna be Atheist, go ahead. If you believe those religions are "right" in your eyes, that's great for you. That's what I feel for Catholicism.

[Efflorescence]

All I'm going to say is that I'm Catholic and proud.

I don't judge others. If you wanna be Buddhist, go ahead. If you wanna be Atheist, go ahead. If you believe those religions are "right" in your eyes, that's great for you. That's what I feel for Catholicism.

Exactly this.........
And no one is to say who's a 'true Christian' or 'true Buddhist' or 'true that' and 'true this'......everyone believes in what he/she thinks is right
No one has the right to come and tell you: 'What you believe in is rubbish just because I don't believe in it'...especially where it's a matter of personal opinion and faith.