Log in

View Full Version : Copter crash in Afghan kills 30 Americans.


Awesome
August 6th, 2011, 06:06 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/copter-downing-afghanistan-kills-30-americans-192301718.html

Copter downing in Afghanistan kills 30 Americans
By KIMBERLY DOZIER

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — Insurgents shot down a U.S. military helicopter during fighting in eastern Afghanistan, killing 30 Americans, most of them belonging to the same elite unit as the Navy SEALs who killed al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, U.S. officials said Saturday. It was the deadliest single loss for American forces in the decade-old war against the Taliban.

The downing, in which seven Afghan commandos were also killed, was a stinging blow to the lauded, tight-knit SEAL Team 6, months after its crowning achievement. It was also a heavy setback for the U.S.-led coalition as it begins to draw down thousands of combat troops fighting what has become an increasingly costly and unpopular war.

None of the 22 SEAL personnel killed in the crash were part of the team that killed bin Laden in a May raid in Pakistan, but they belonged to the same unit. Their deployment in the raid in which the helicopter crashed would suggest that the target was a high-ranking insurgent figure.

Special operations forces, including the SEALs and others, have been at the forefront in the stepped up strategy of taking out key insurgent leaders in targeted raids, and they will be relied on even more as regular troops pull out.

The strike is also likely to boost the morale of the Taliban in a key province that controls a strategic approach to the capital Kabul. The Taliban claimed they downed the helicopter with a rocket while it was taking part in a raid on a house where insurgents were gathered in the province of Wardak overnight. Wreckage of the craft was strewn across the crash site, a Taliban spokesman said.

A senior U.S. administration official in Washington said it appeared the craft had been shot down. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because the crash is still being investigated.

"Their deaths are a reminder of the extraordinary sacrifices made by the men and women of our military and their families, including all who have served in Afghanistan," President Barack Obama said in a statement, adding that his thoughts and prayers go out to the families of those who perished.

The U.S.-led coalition said in a statement that 30 American service members, a civilian interpreter and seven Afghan commandos were killed when their CH-47 Chinook crashed in the early hours Saturday. A current U.S. official and a former U.S. official said the Americans included 22 SEALs, three Air Force air controllers and a dog handler and his dog. The two spoke on condition of anonymity because military officials were still notifying the families of the dead.




Afghan President Hamid Karzai announced the number of people killed in the crash and the presence of special operations troops before any other public figure. He also offered his condolences to the American and Afghan troops killed in the crash.

The deaths bring to 365 the number of coalition troops killed this year in Afghanistan and 42 this month.

The overnight raid took place in the Tangi Joy Zarin area of Wardak's Sayd Abad district, about 60 miles (97 kilometers) southwest of Kabul. Forested peaks in the region give the insurgency good cover and the Taliban have continued to use it as a base despite repeated NATO assaults.

Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid said in a statement that the helicopter was involved in an assault on a house where insurgent fighters were gathering. During the battle, the fighters shot down the helicopter with a rocket, he said.

An American official in Brussels said the helicopter was a twin-rotor Chinook, a large troop and cargo transporter.

The casualties are believed to be largest loss of life in the history of SEAL Team Six, officially called the Navy Special Warfare Development Group, or DEVGRU. The team is considered the best of the best among the already elite SEALs, which numbers 3,000 personnel.

NPR and ABC News first reported that those aboard were believed to be Navy SEALs. The AP withheld the report at the request of their sources until they believed the majority of families of those lost had been notified.

The death toll surpasses the previous worst single day loss of life for the U.S.-led coalition in Afghanistan since the war began in 2001 — the June 28, 2005 downing of a military helicopter in eastern Kunar province.

In that incident, 16 Navy SEALs and Army special operations troops were killed when their craft was shot down while on a mission to rescue four SEALs under attack by the Taliban. Three of the SEALs being rescued were also killed and the fourth wounded

Azunite
August 7th, 2011, 03:11 AM
I just saw it on the newspaper, this news covered almost the half of the first page, along with America's level decreasing to AA from AAA.

DoctorWho
August 8th, 2011, 08:47 PM
Sad I heard about it and you should really quote that

andrew_
August 8th, 2011, 09:50 PM
damn fucking afgans we already killed osama just fucking surrender

TheMatrix
August 8th, 2011, 09:54 PM
damn fucking afgans we already killed osama just fucking surrender
http://troll.me/images/futurama-fry/cant-tell-if-youre-trolling-or-just-really-stupid.jpg
That is both mean and somewhat racist.
And by the way, that was Pakistan, not Afghanistan. ;)
So...:negrep:

Jokerman
August 8th, 2011, 09:59 PM
Thats tragic

DoctorWho
August 8th, 2011, 10:43 PM
image (http://troll.me/images/futurama-fry/cant-tell-if-youre-trolling-or-just-really-stupid.jpg)
That is both mean and somewhat racist.
And by the way, that was Pakistan, not Afghanistan. ;)
So...:negrep:

trolling alert

TheMatrix
August 9th, 2011, 12:21 AM
trolling alert
I beg your pardon? :what:

Magus
August 9th, 2011, 01:04 AM
damn fucking afgans we already killed osama just fucking surrenderI will not talk about the Afghanis. But I will talk about you.

You seem to be pretty oblivious between the difference of Osama and Afghans. Osama is a fucking Saudi who worked in Afghanistan and has nothing to do with Afghanis -- he is the leader of Al-Qaeda -- its members are from around the world, including some Afghanis, no doubt. Can't people understand these small little facts?

The Afghanis, on the other hand, are better known as the TALIBAN fuck fuck dish shit --- which has nothing NOTHING to do with Osama BinLaden and Al-Qaeda as a whole -- their only commonality is that they both belong to the Salafist movement, is all. They have their own different goal.

This post demonstrate the intelligence of the poster. Having no idea what it's all about, yet spouting imbecilic nonsense. Ad hominem. Ad infinitum.

Why do we have people like this, why?! ?!!? WHYYY!?

Oh, and I am part Afghani and Pakistani(if you count the nationality, not the ethnicity(which is a different issue, that is), and I am offended by this post, and as a result, I profusely retorted.
And by the way, that was Pakistan, not Afghanistan. ;)
So...:negrep:Lol wut? So what if it was Pakistan? Osama BinLaden and Al-Qaeda worked both in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Doesn't make a significant difference, hombre.

Genghis Khan
August 9th, 2011, 07:48 AM
And by the way, that was Pakistan, not Afghanistan. ;)

Osama isn't from Pakistan... or Afghanistan. The only relationship is our military run government protected his brown camel jockey ass.

DoctorWho
August 9th, 2011, 12:28 PM
I beg your pardon? :what:

The racist guy

Magus
August 9th, 2011, 03:49 PM
The only relationship is our military run government protected his brown camel jockey ass.They seriously did? What the fuck pakis?

Hasn't Pakistan insulted itself enough already?

andrew_
August 9th, 2011, 07:43 PM
when your uncle dies in the war let see if you dont become a lil rascist

Magus
August 10th, 2011, 01:15 AM
when your uncle dies in the war let see if you dont become a lil rascistOh no. I will not become racist when my uncle die, let us say, in China. I wouldn't be hating the Chinese, because he was killed by some extremist communist, and obviously not the Chinese. Oh no, I am very tolerant to everyone, regardless of race or ethnicity or religion -- so as long they are giving it back.

I am not some dumfuck who will hate a whole demography because of some action performed by a small group of extremist. Never.

I am wise, I am intelligent, and I am capable of critical thinking. I will not let my emotions get passed by me. And that's why I am not a bigot, and surely not a racist. Pakistani or the Punjabi military are always randomly killing Baloch(us), that doesn't mean I should be a little racists and hate all of the Punjabis, because of what some group did. No. It's absolutely illogical to do so.

Your Uncle dying somewhere(possibly Afghanistan) is not a justification or an excuse to hate the Afghanis. Soldiers live in the battlefield, and die in the battlefield--if you don't want to die, don't join the army at all. Soldiers are not the honored serviceman of the country, they are the expendable pawns of the country, and this is a fact, unfortunately.

Genghis Khan
August 10th, 2011, 04:24 AM
They seriously did? What the fuck pakis?

Have you actually not read about how Osama was found literally miles away from Pakistan's military base... our army obviously knew about it, it's impossible to ignore a 6'5 bearded Arab d00d in a land of 5'10 Pakistani d00ds, especially when that d00d is Laden and living, I don't know.. a fucking mile away from a military base.

Hasn't Pakistan insulted itself enough already?

No. We must lose every ounce of dignity we have left and then be patriotic and love ourselves even more, no, no, I don't care if we lost every war we fought we cannot talk bad about our watan otherwise we'd be BEWAFA. JEEVAY PAKISTAN, ZINDABAD WATAN E AZIZ.

when your uncle dies in the war let see if you dont become a lil rascist

You're right, a person killed your uncle, what's more... in a war, he happens to be an Afghan, therefore all Afghans are ruthless, barbaric backward killers. Makes perfect sense? Right?

WRONG. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic)