Thunderbolt VS USB 3.0

[Kujiro]

Anyone with experiences on this?

They co exist and usb3 is more commercialized, but it seems thunderbolt has greater potential.

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Thunderbolt is ALOT quicker. No point having USB connectivity if youve only got SATAII ports on your motherboard.

Thunderbolt doesnt need anything special it runs on its own at full speed!

[Kujiro]

It does seems like the thunderbolt is only available on macbook pros at the moment.
Any information when would it be released on a mobo?
*hopeful looks*

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as of yet, none. Not many devices will use it, stick it out for USB3

[Unlucky_Leprechaun]

THe new MacAirs have it also. Seems like a powerful up and coming interface. It will be interesting to see if (or when) it hits the mainstream or just for the apple products. It can power the macair as well connect to an external monitor. Looks actually pretty AWESOME.

http://www.apple.com/macbookair/


http://www.apple.com/macbookair/features.html#thunderbolt

[Saosin]

I really feel like Apple will try to keep this and exclusive feature for their products to attract product sales. (obvious) But I'm excited to see the transition to Thunderbolt from USB. Syncing my 64gb iPod 20x faster would be fantastic haha... No more overnight syncing! wouldn't that be great?

[Kujiro]

Im not sure, but i never had to sync my ipad nor iphone overnight, but yea faster syncing is always preferred.
Guess it was something like firewire, so exclusive that it became so badly supported :(

[Commander Thor]

You won't get faster syncing over Thunderbolt vs USB3.0 (Or even USB2.0).
Why?
The medium your media is stored on can only read/write so fast, and hard drive read speeds, and hard drive / flash media write speeds have yet to increase past the capability of USB3.0's 600MByte/sec. (And it won't in the foreseeable future)
Also, don't forget that your media player usually converts media before it sticks is on your device, further creating extra sync time.
Using Thunderbolt won't increase shit. At all.

Also, Firewire didn't fail because it was exclusive to anything. Firewire failed because of backwards compatibility.
Consumers don't want to deal with the hassle of buying new hardware to support new connection types.
The beauty of USB is that it's fully backwards compatible. You can have a USB3.0 port and know that all your USB2.0 & 1.0 devices will work on it. You can't do that with Firewire or Thunderbolt. (Thunderbolt is new, requireing a new port, and Firewire switched it's port type halfway through, not to mention it's not on all PCs, whereas some form of USB is)
1 port for everything vs. 23 ports for everything wins out, every time with consumers.

Not to mention, USB is fimiliar to consumers, Firewire, and (Especially) Thunderbolt is foreign to them. ;)

[Kujiro]

So does it mean r/w can be improved if we are improving our hdd r/w speeds i.e ocz technology?
depending on where is the bottleneck i suppose.. hmm
And yea consumers always prefers 1 button that does everything though :P

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You won't get faster syncing over Thunderbolt vs USB3.0 (Or even USB2.0).
Why?
The medium your media is stored on can only read/write so fast, and hard drive read speeds, and hard drive / flash media write speeds have yet to increase past the capability of USB3.0's 600MByte/sec. (And it won't in the foreseeable future)



SSD's have read/write speeds off upto 1GB/s so USB 3 and TB are viable solutions if you have them.



Not to mention, USB is fimiliar to consumers, Firewire, and (Especially) Thunderbolt is foreign to them. ;)

Most music producers and video editors will us TB over USB.



Backwards compatibility is also a big issue, USB has it, TB does not.



But how do you know this? this is the first version of TB so theres not really any need for BC. I imagine it will be added if theres a second version?

[DoctorWho]

thunderbolt lets you connect high-performance peripherals and high-resolution displays to a single port with fast data transfer rates.
USB an even higher transfer rate to match these new usage and devices.
I prefer both but thats my opinion

[Kujiro]

Maybe it could be, usb has been around for a while, and it became a norm. People are generally comfortable with it.
As its true the mentality of most would be, if its not broken dont fix it.
Tb is something really new, and i see great potential in it.
@autoplay, what are the potential bottlenecks on tb you forsee?

[Commander Thor]

SSD's have read/write speeds off upto 1GB/s so USB 3 and TB are viable solutions if you have them.
Don't ask me why I included USB2.0 in that post. Must've had a brain fart.
I know even HDDs are past the limit of USB2.0.

Also, last I checked SSDs (That, you know, people who aren't billionaires can afford) were still hovering around the 150MB/s mark... O_o
When did 1GB/s happen?



Most music producers and video editors will us TB over USB.
Sadly, music produces and video editors are a small drop in the ocean of computer users.
In the end, consumers drive the market, not professionals.

[Skyhawk]

I would rather have USB 3.0 over Thunderbolt because I have a habit of using older hardware when I build computer systems to save money (High end for $600? Cheap!) and USB, as stated before, is backwards compatible and most external accessories use USB instead of Thunderbolt.

It's just easier in my opinion, to be able to use older technology with newer technology, no questions asked.

[DoctorWho]

Ya USB is better

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Maybe it could be, usb has been around for a while, and it became a norm. People are generally comfortable with it.
As its true the mentality of most would be, if its not broken dont fix it.
Tb is something really new, and i see great potential in it.
@autoplay, what are the potential bottlenecks on tb you forsee?

The only thing that lets it down is its avaliabilty. If it was as mainstream as USB it would kick off as it is better.

Don't ask me why I included USB2.0 in that post. Must've had a brain fart.
I know even HDDs are past the limit of USB2.0.

Also, last I checked SSDs (That, you know, people who aren't billionaires can afford) were still hovering around the 150MB/s mark... O_o
When did 1GB/s happen?




Sadly, music produces and video editors are a small drop in the ocean of computer users.
In the end, consumers drive the market, not professionals.

Yeah, excluding PCI/e SSDs vortex 3 SSDs have a range from between 500mb/s too 950mb/s

Thats true they dont but thunderbolt isnt aimed at the consumer market. it is aimed at those types of users. TB is basically a damned fast midi input