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Voodoo
August 2nd, 2011, 11:52 PM
Like come on, first of all, we're in a war that's not ours to start with. Obama is just raising tax's, people can't afford to pay the fucking taxes, so he raises them? I got an idea! Cut the president's pay, the free chopper rides... Wait, does he need a cook? NO! We don't get a cook... Why should he.... The average senator gets paid about $176,000 a YEAR. Do the math, take $100,000 of each pay... lets see. $5,000,000 savings right there, then the House of Representatives, 435 in the house, lets see cut their pay too. $43,000,000 in savings. $48,000,000 just in pay cuts! THAT'S what we could be saving! But wait there's more! Senate Leadership Majority Party Leader - $193,400 cut that down by 100,000..... then add that. Minority Party Leader - $193,400, do the same.. House Leadership, Speaker of the House - $223,500 Cut that down to $93,400, Majority Leader - $193,400 cut that down by $100,000, Minority Leader - $193,400 do the same.... $48,500,000.... look at that savings! just in pay cuts ALONE!
(if I did my math right) THEN end the BUSH era TAX CUTS there's millions or even BILLIONS in lost income with that in place! Oh, and lets get going on Social Security. there should be minatory drug testings, anyone who is on illegal drugs (besides for medical use) should be removed from it. Section 8, anyone who is caught abusing the system should be removed from that program! I'm sure there is many other ways to save too, all that unnecessary spending.

Amnesiac
August 3rd, 2011, 12:19 AM
Like come on, first of all, we're in a war that's not ours to start with. Obama is just raising tax's, people can't afford to pay the fucking taxes, so he raises them?

No.

I got an idea! Cut the president's pay, the free chopper rides... Wait, does he need a cook? NO! We don't get a cook... Why should he.... The average senator gets paid about $176,000 a YEAR. Do the math, take $100,000 of each pay... lets see. $5,000,000 savings right there, then the House of Representatives, 435 in the house, lets see cut their pay too. $43,000,000 in savings. $48,000,000 just in pay cuts! THAT'S what we could be saving! But wait there's more! Senate Leadership Majority Party Leader - $193,400 cut that down by 100,000..... then add that. Minority Party Leader - $193,400, do the same.. House Leadership, Speaker of the House - $223,500 Cut that down to $93,400, Majority Leader - $193,400 cut that down by $100,000, Minority Leader - $193,400 do the same.... $48,500,000.... look at that savings! just in pay cuts ALONE!

$50 million isn't shit. That's a molecule in a drop in the bucket of water that is the federal government's budget. There's absolutely no reason to complain about the salaries of legislators. It's not like $150k a year is some outrageous salary that everybody needs to bitch about.

(if I did my math right) THEN end the BUSH era TAX CUTS there's millions or even BILLIONS in lost income with that in place!

I'll agree with you there, but it's kind of hypocritical how you complain about Obama "raising taxes," and then advocate raising taxes.

Oh, and lets get going on Social Security. there should be minatory drug testings, anyone who is on illegal drugs (besides for medical use) should be removed from it. Section 8, anyone who is caught abusing the system should be removed from that program! I'm sure there is many other ways to save too, all that unnecessary spending.

Or, you know, we could get rid of Social Security permanently and stop infringing on the privacy rights of citizens by giving out ridiculous mandatory drug tests, which punish them for victimless crimes.

Dack
August 3rd, 2011, 12:35 AM
There's no easy solution to the debt problem, simple as that. I think Obama has been doing well by himself and this is not his fault for it happening.

It costs more money to raise taxes than is made, usually, so that's not an option. You can't just cut the payroll of hundreds working in the government to make back a petty $45M. In order to fix this, the government needs to stop all military services overseas and cut unneeded jobs from any nonvital government position. They need to tax large corporations and finally stop the near-open market system there is now by imposing regulations that force large businesses to pay large percentages of profit per annum. Wal-Mart makes more than $3B a year...and that's just in America.

Voodoo
August 3rd, 2011, 12:39 AM
True, but it could be a start. Like I know a useless job, Deputy Secretary of the Army... and other Secretariats, you don't need a Deputy..... You have an Assistant and Under Secretary...

Dack
August 3rd, 2011, 12:46 AM
The problem mostly lies with the sheer number of debt and not the president. ALL countries are in some amount of debt, the US however has an astronomcal figure to deal with and it's not going to be easy.
The government currently spends around $10,000 per SECOND and they can't cut it to 0 because nothing will be getting done. In this case they need to spend money in order to make money; impose tariffs if you fucking have to, the US economy is too vital to allow it to fail.

kacibaybay
August 3rd, 2011, 01:03 AM
I totally agree with you. raising taxes is not good in this economy. Honestly, it's just not logical.

Were heading for a double dip recession. Things aren't getting better.

Whatever your views are on Obama, I don't care. he's ruining this country. He knows how to speak well so he gets people to like him. He's completely filled with bullshit.

Amnesiac
August 3rd, 2011, 01:06 AM
Whatever your views are on Obama, I don't care. he's ruining this country. He knows how to speak well so he gets people to like him. He's completely filled with bullshit.

Correction: every politician is ruining this country, every politician knows how to speak well so people like them, and every politician is filled with bullshit. And every politician sucks lobbyist dick.

I'm just stating the obvious. I don't like it when people single out Obama. He's just as bad as everybody else.

Dack
August 3rd, 2011, 01:08 AM
You are aware that -every- president, past and future, has done that, right?
He tried to impose healthcare, it would help many get out of debt because of medical expenses. Yup, ruined. Private ownership rapes the people of America left right and center but no one care cause it's so widespread.

Bush fucked you over more than any one else. And you voted him in twice. No wonder shits so fucked up.

DerBear
August 3rd, 2011, 02:23 AM
Hes only raising taxes for the rich.

Hes done a good job in my opinon. Sure hes not perfect but it boils down to this obamas democrats and most of the senate are republicins....problem they both disagree....nothing ever gets done due to this.