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Underground_Network
February 26th, 2007, 02:42 PM
I heard in 6th grade about how the self-destruction (supposed apocalypse) is supposed to occur in 2012. I thought it was a load of shit, and then my friend, who strangely is atheist, like me, told me that it infers this in the bible. He told me this a year ago, and I went to a bookstore a couple days ago, because we need at least one reading book, for this stupid reading period at my school. I found a book called Apocalypse 2012, and it talks about all these things, like people getting eaten by sharks (i.e. animals turning on us), and cities exploding. What are your thoughts on this supposed apocalypse? Do you think its real or a load of crap? (It sucks that Lt. Colonel Environment isn't here to state his opinion, I'd really like to hear it :P)

Aηdy
February 26th, 2007, 02:45 PM
Total BS! Remember 6.6.06? "Oh my god we're all gonna die!!" We're still here!

Underground_Network
February 26th, 2007, 02:53 PM
Lol, 6/6/06 was my friends birthday, and he is really weird (obsessed with bombs and mass homicide/suicide) But i'm not sure. I think the actual "apocalypse" may be a load of dogpoo, but I think we could face serious problems by 2012, such as the Yellowstone Eruption, verneshots, etc.
It also says somewhere that the complete and utter destruction of the earth is thousands of years overdue (based on scientific study). And has anyone ever seen the commercial where the guy is standing on the train tracks with a train coming, saying 30 years? That won't effect me. And then he steps off and theres a little girl about to get hit by the train?

Sapphire
February 26th, 2007, 03:05 PM
Learned people have been saying this for hundreds, even thousands of years. If you believe everything you read then the Earth, or at least life on Earth, should have ended hundreds of years ago.
Do you remember the hullaballo about the millenium and how the world was supposed to end? I had to run around with my friend while she did all this crazy shit in preparation for our inevitable deaths.
Just don't be so damn gullible.

Underground_Network
February 26th, 2007, 03:13 PM
I'm not gullible. Plenty of these things are scientifically proven. They have proof of the yellowstone cycle, previous verneshots, and other things that could wreak havoc upon our future. As I said I think the "APOCALYPSE", is a load of shit, but they were in the right century, I'll tell you that.

Bobby
February 26th, 2007, 04:00 PM
It's not going to happen. And when that doesn't happen, people are going to make up another random year for the world to end.

Maverick
February 26th, 2007, 04:07 PM
It's all bullshit.

Aηdy
February 26th, 2007, 04:18 PM
It's not going to happen. And when that doesn't happen, people are going to make up another random year for the world to end.

It's all bullshit.
Amen to that =]

0=
February 26th, 2007, 05:19 PM
OMG WE'RE GONNA DIE TOMORROW! THE NUMBERS 2, 27, and 2007 CAN BE CREATED BY ADDING, SUBTRACTING, MULTIPLYING, AND DIVIDING RANDOM NUMBERS IN THE BIBLE!

Melchi0r
February 26th, 2007, 05:39 PM
People say the world will end in 2012 because of the Aztec calendar, that's when it ends. Wrong. It doesn't end in 2012, scholars just got confused because after 2012 they began to use abbreviations for their numbers and this stumped scholars who simply concluded the Aztecs thought the world will end in 2012.

Underground_Network
February 26th, 2007, 05:47 PM
We're all gonna die in 30 years, so who really cares LMAO. Global warming is going to cause temperatures to sky-rocket, melting the polar ice caps, inundating numerous major cities, just as Yellowstone erupts, and simultaneous explosions, due to shrapnel thrown from verneshots, and meteors smashing into earth, will claim even more lives. And then in an attempt to escape the madness, the President of the U.S. (not necessarily Bush), decides to drop an atom bomb on Antarctica, causing flying ice to claim more lives. After its all said and done, all that will be left are cockroaches, since in a counterattack the President of Antarctica (a robot penguin) will drop nukes on every country, thus destroying all living beings, except cockroaches, which can survive nuclear explosions. Thus civilization begins anew!

Melchi0r
February 26th, 2007, 06:14 PM
We're all gonna die in 30 years, so who really cares LMAO. Global warming is going to cause temperatures to sky-rocket, melting the polar ice caps, inundating numerous major cities, just as Yellowstone erupts, and simultaneous explosions, due to shrapnel thrown from verneshots, and meteors smashing into earth, will claim even more lives. And then in an attempt to escape the madness, the President of the U.S. (not necessarily Bush), decides to drop an atom bomb on Antarctica, causing flying ice to claim more lives. After its all said and done, all that will be left are cockroaches, since in a counterattack the President of Antarctica (a robot penguin) will drop nukes on every country, thus destroying all living beings, except cockroaches, which can survive nuclear explosions. Thus civilization begins anew!

After this post I now know why they call this forum "Ramblings of the Wise". J/k.

Underground_Network
February 26th, 2007, 06:21 PM
LMAO, we've already done irreparable damage to the environment and we're on the verge of destruction, the real question is, How long can we forgo and delay this imminent doomsday that is to come in the future?

Bankai15
February 26th, 2007, 08:17 PM
It is all a load of shit. Remember Y2k NEVER HAPPEND!!!

terith
February 26th, 2007, 08:32 PM
lol now i am atheist,and if that shit isnt complete bs,lol,it cant happan in 2012,thats when i freakin graduate skool,lol

schrei jess
February 26th, 2007, 08:32 PM
Total and complete BS. God decides when the world will come to an end, and only he knows this.

Of course all of ya'll dont believe this, just look at it this way - who the fuck cares?

Sapphire
February 27th, 2007, 10:53 AM
We're all gonna die in 30 years, so who really cares LMAO. Global warming is going to cause temperatures to sky-rocket, melting the polar ice caps, inundating numerous major cities, just as Yellowstone erupts, and simultaneous explosions, due to shrapnel thrown from verneshots, and meteors smashing into earth, will claim even more lives. And then in an attempt to escape the madness, the President of the U.S. (not necessarily Bush), decides to drop an atom bomb on Antarctica, causing flying ice to claim more lives. After its all said and done, all that will be left are cockroaches, since in a counterattack the President of Antarctica (a robot penguin) will drop nukes on every country, thus destroying all living beings, except cockroaches, which can survive nuclear explosions. Thus civilization begins anew!

^^^And any firm indication of this would be??? Thought so. Just some more messed up shit to throw idiots like you into a frenzy

Melchi0r
February 27th, 2007, 03:07 PM
The damage we've done to the environment is not irreparable.

DestroyTheFuture
February 28th, 2007, 12:09 AM
We havent done that bad of damage to the environment.

1. Global Warming will not significantly affect anybody within the next 10 generations. The polar ice caps are kept frozen at 23 degrees Fahrenheit. This means, that they will not melt until the air temperature at the north and south poles rises on an even scale by 9 degrees. Do you have any idea how long this would take? The temperature over the last 500 years has risen by 1 degree. Granted, it will progress faster because there is more atmospheric destruction today, but the ice caps will never melt until the year 2700+.


2. All this stuff about Yellowstone Calderas, the Vernshots, Y2K...Y3K...(Y10K...seriously, thats some chronic shit dawg, we should be worrying about that instead) Astroid's (first off, i think it would be really cool if an astroid came in and hit and wiped out Paris or Rome or something, one, because that would be awesome history, two, because i'd be the first to see that crater) is just BS that emo kids make up to become popular.

3. The Earth will not receive mass destruction for thousands of years. Get over the fact that your not going to die until your 120. (i want to live until im 120+...)



Also, i dont know about you, but i think it would be super cool if New Orleans was eternally flooded in Katrina, and then in the new map census in 10 years, there wasnt a New Orleans on the map, like the whole bottom half of Louisiana was just a mini bay on the map...that would be fricken rad.

seriously, anybody else?

schrei jess
February 28th, 2007, 12:13 AM
That's sick. You wish Katrina had completely flooded and destroyed New Orleans? With the big damaga Katrina did, look at all the people that died and lost their homes and families, that was awful and you wish that it had COMPLETELY wiped away everything?! That is so sick.

DestroyTheFuture
February 28th, 2007, 12:49 AM
I dont 'wish' it did. I said it would be cool if it did, as if it didnt...meh...and if it did, then okay...meh.

Also, everyone would be evacuated by the way. Thats what smart people do when a fatal storm is heading in. The reason why people died in Katrina is because they didnt leave soon enough or they didnt leave at all...because they are very, very absent-minded. All im saying is that the majority of New Orleans was part of the Gulf of Mexico for a short period of time, and i think it would be cool if in our generation, that we had our own "Atlantis".

Also, quite frankly, its your own fault and choice if you live in a coastline city that is below sea level.

Hyper
February 28th, 2007, 02:15 PM
Hmm I didn't read the posts but I will say this by a wise knowledge and line

Everything Passes

Bad turns to good, good turns to bad

And when the world and humanity reaches a point where it couldn't get better, it will pass

Sapphire
February 28th, 2007, 02:46 PM
To be so flippant about such a disaterous situation is sick.
Also, quite frankly, its your own fault and choice if you live in a coastline city that is below sea level.
So what you are saying is "they live on the coast, what do they expect? It's their own fault for losing homes and families because they chose to live there" That is so unbelieveably ridiculous and dim witted and inhumane to think!

DestroyTheFuture
February 28th, 2007, 06:57 PM
..it's sick.

That's sick...That is so sick.

To be so flippant about such a disaterous situation is sick.

you guys must be agreeing with me and saying that it's Sick, as in Awesome!



but anyways, if you didn't get out of N.O. in time, it is your own fault...you had over a week to evacuate, AND even so, traffic problems were an issue, but it doesn't take a week to get across a highway.

AND it is your choice to live in New Orleans. if you are a child and forced to live their under parents law, then that is different...but, parents should take care of their children. Moving on, it is your choice to live in N.O. which means that it is your fault. Don't even try and tell me that its not, because, if you choose to do something, you are the only one who can be blamed for it, because it is your fault. If you disagree, then you have a lot of thinking to do before you should even be able to use a computer.

0=
February 28th, 2007, 07:00 PM
If the government had improved the levees the whole thing wouldn't have happened, but we were too busy spending money killing people. They didn't even bother helping those who were caught in it. Now stop spewing shit out of your arrogant ass.

schrei jess
February 28th, 2007, 07:00 PM
Some people stayed there because they could not get out, no means of transportation or no where to go, etc. And some stayed because they werent aware of how bad the storm really was. Others stayed because they didnt want to leave their houses behind, they wanted to be able to save their properties and belongings.

And we arent agreeing with you at all, we're all agreeing that you are a sick person.

Maverick
February 28th, 2007, 07:03 PM
Now that's a bit harsh how can they be at fault for what is responsible by nature? There are natural disasters/problems where ever you live. Is it a Californian's fault when they die from an earthquake? A Floridan's fault for dying in a hurriance? A Georgian's fault for dying in a tornado?

Think kid.

Glasgow
February 28th, 2007, 07:03 PM
Yea what happend with Y2K and 6/6/06? Nothing, nothing at all. Its just another silly rumour. Nothing will happen,

DestroyTheFuture
February 28th, 2007, 07:36 PM
Yes, it IS their fault. God dammit, don't move to a place before you know the risks of the natural disasters.

thats why, just live in Minnesota, and all you have to worry about is a tornado threat.

And Jess, when you have over a week to evacuate (plenty enough time) then theres absolutely no excuse. If you stayed in N.O. because of the reasons that you listed there, then you made the decision to risk your life.

Maverick
February 28th, 2007, 07:37 PM
Yes, it IS their fault. God dammit, don't move to a place before you know the risks of the natural disasters.

thats why, just live in Minnesota, and all you have to worry about is a tornado threat.
And when a tornado comes and wipes out your house, it's your fault?

Life is full of risks but it doesn't mean its our fault. The whole united states can't pack up and move to minnesota.

Sapphire
February 28th, 2007, 07:50 PM
oh my god you are all mad we aint going to die for millions of years so shut up and stop bickereing its so lame now after millenium and 6/6/6 so stop all chatter about dying and the world ending as it wont happen for a long while yet

Now that's a bit harsh how can they be at fault for what is responsible by nature? There are natural disasters/problems where ever you live. Is it a Californian's fault when they die from an earthquake? A Floridan's fault for dying in a hurriance? A Georgian's fault for dying in a tornado?


QFT

DestroyTheFuture
February 28th, 2007, 08:17 PM
QFT, Quit Fucking Talking?



but yes, when a tornado comes and wipes out my house, it is my families fault, because my parents decided to buy that lot and i didnt decide to tell them that we should move.

schrei jess
February 28th, 2007, 08:31 PM
QFT stands for 'Quote for Truth' but 'Quit Fucking Talking' would work in this case too.

0=
February 28th, 2007, 09:46 PM
So it's your parents' fault if a tornado destroys your house? Go tell them that with a straight face.

DestroyTheFuture
February 28th, 2007, 11:01 PM
haha okay...it is, its my fault too, and my brothers'.


it was their choice to move to MN and our (my brothers' and mine) choice to not tell my parents to move somewhere else. so, if a tornado comes and destroys our house, then so be it.

besides we have house insurance because we are actually smart and my parents are good people

Unpresentable
February 28th, 2007, 11:09 PM
Astroid's (first off, i think it would be really cool if an astroid came in and hit and wiped out Paris or Rome or something, one, because that would be awesome history, two, because i'd be the first to see that crater) is just BS that emo kids make up to become popular.


You think asteroids are BS made up by emo kids to become popular?
rofl. Are you freakin kidding me? That is the funniest thing I have ever heard. Seriously, do some research before you open your mouth.

DestroyTheFuture
February 28th, 2007, 11:57 PM
i'm just kidding dude. It's called making fun of emo kids because no one likes emo kids.

i know they are real, because there are many craters worldwide that are asteroid indentations. i know dude, i know.

but, emo kids do make up a lot of BS to become popular.

Ethannnnnn
March 1st, 2007, 04:17 AM
people have been saying crazy bullshit like that for thousands of years none of its never happened so why start worrying now and if it does happen it will be long after we have all died like the year 3000

Hyper
March 1st, 2007, 10:37 AM
haha okay...it is, its my fault too, and my brothers'.


it was their choice to move to MN and our (my brothers' and mine) choice to not tell my parents to move somewhere else. so, if a tornado comes and destroys our house, then so be it.

besides we have house insurance because we are actually smart and my parents are good people


If a serial killer kills your entire family, is it their fault?

DestroyTheFuture
March 1st, 2007, 02:33 PM
no.


explain to me how that would be my families fault.

0=
March 1st, 2007, 06:55 PM
They decided to live somewhere a serial killer might live.

DestroyTheFuture
March 1st, 2007, 08:37 PM
haha good reason bud...you should be on your school's Speech and Debate team.

0=
March 2nd, 2007, 01:44 AM
I'm just using your own highly flawed logic against you.

DestroyTheFuture
March 2nd, 2007, 02:39 AM
No, your not, because your not putting i into the correct context. A regularly occurring natural disaster is not the same a serial killer murdering my whole family.

Retard!

Also, you already know about the risks of a natural disaster occurring where you live before you live there. Sure, serial killers are everywhere, but they don't naturally occur in a pattern like a natural disaster does.

schrei jess
March 2nd, 2007, 10:35 AM
Retard!


Im sure there are other words to use than making fun of those with mental disorders >.<

Anyway, I think he was just using the serial killer thing to show you how your idea really sounded, I dont think he actually meant it - but it was a funny point.

Hyper
March 2nd, 2007, 10:42 AM
No, your not, because your not putting i into the correct context. A regularly occurring natural disaster is not the same a serial killer murdering my whole family.

Retard!

Also, you already know about the risks of a natural disaster occurring where you live before you live there. Sure, serial killers are everywhere, but they don't naturally occur in a pattern like a natural disaster does.


So let me get this straight, you can't determine when a natural disaster would hit your house, neither could you determine that some maniac kills your family I fail to see the difference

Your Katrina example is actualy correct, it was a disaster waiting to happen but the reason wasn't that they lived their, more like that the flood defenses and such weren't built properly

Underground_Network
March 3rd, 2007, 11:31 AM
To get back on topic, this is quoted directly from my book:
Guilty of Apocalypse:
The Case Against 2012
1. Ancient Mayan prophecies based on two millennia of meticulous astronomical observations indicate that 12/21/12 (winter solstice) will mark the birth of a new age, accompanied, as all births are, by blood and agony, as well as hope and promise.
2. Since the 1940s, and particularly since 2003, the Sun has behaved more tumultuously than any time since the rapid globabl warming that accompanied the melting of the Ice Age 11,000 years ago. Solar physicists concur that solar activity will next peak, at record-setting levels, in 2012.
3. Storms on the Sun are related to storms on Earth. The great wave of 2005hurricanes Katrina, Rita, and Wilma coincided with one of the stormiest weeks in the recorded history of the Sun.
4. The Earth's magnetic field, our primary defense against harmful solar radiation, has begun to dwindle, with California-sized cracks opening up randomly. A pole shift, in which such protection falls nearly to zero as the North and South magnetic poles reverse position, may well be under way.
5. Russian geophysicists believe the Solar System has entered an interstellar energy cloud. This cloud is energizing and destabilizing the Sun and all the planets' atmospheres. Their predictions for catastrophe range from 2010 to 2020.
6. Physicists at UC Berkely, who discovered that the dinosaurs and 70 percent of all other species on Earth were extinguished by the impact of a comet or asteroid 65 million years ago, maintain with 99 percent certainty, that we are now overdue for another such megacatastrophe.
7. The Yellowstone supervolcano, which erupts catastrophically every 600,000 to 700,000 years, is preparing to blow. The most recent eruption of comparable magnitude, at Lake Toba, Indonesia, 74,000 years ago, led to the death of more than 90 percent of the world's population at the time. (Note: Yellowstone is actually much more powerful than the eruption at Lake Tobia)
8. Eastern philosophies, such as the I Ching, The Chinese Book of Changes, and Hindu theology, have been plausibly interpreted as supporting the 2012 end date, as have a range of indigenous belief systems.
9. At least one scholarly interpretation of the Bible predicts that the Earth will be annihilated in 2012. The burgeoning Armageddonist movement of Muslims, Christians, and Jews actively seeks to precipitate the final end-times battle.
10. Have a nice day.
Sorry for any typos, some information added, thank you to Lawrence E. Joseph, for gathering this information, and writing this incredible book, Apocalypse 2012. For more info, buy the book.

Skittlez1313
February 8th, 2008, 09:07 PM
Who beleives it who doesn't?
I really think its a load of shit ^^;
But I want to know your opinion!
Answer meeeeee lol

[Threads Merged ~ rok.my.sox]

goin to work
February 8th, 2008, 09:38 PM
yes i do bleve in this throry

Underground_Network
February 8th, 2008, 11:22 PM
Ok...

Aηdy
February 9th, 2008, 03:54 PM
Threads merged.

juliocesarchavezthe4th
February 9th, 2008, 06:47 PM
I have heard about this as well but its could be bull Scheiße. Y2K was suppose to be something like that too.

serial-thrilla
February 9th, 2008, 06:58 PM
keep in mind that there is always a current doomsday theory.

The Batman
February 9th, 2008, 10:18 PM
QFT, Quit Fucking Talking?



but yes, when a tornado comes and wipes out my house, it is my families fault, because my parents decided to buy that lot and i didnt decide to tell them that we should move.

What if your parents were in a financial situation where they can't move even though they want to and you and your brother also want to move, then who's fault is it?

Camazotz
February 13th, 2008, 11:05 AM
The Mayans, Nostradamus, the Bible, Web bots, and the I Chang all predict the end at 2012.
The Mayans were EXTREMLY advanced in their calenders. They came up with about 365.2 days in a year. Their calender predicted that the end of the cycle( each cycle a few thousand years long) would end on Dec. 26, 2012. Their astronomical advancements were VERY advanced too, which helped them make accurate calenders.

Nostradamus is probably the most famous prophecy in the world. He predicted the death of King Henri II in a jousting accident(happened), JFK assasination(happened), WW2(happened), Great Fire of London(happened), 9/11(happened), and Napoleon(happened)

The Bible predicts that in the End, there will be many deaths by earthquake, war, fire, famine, disease. Some people believe that all of these things have increased in the past few years, although skeptics say it hasnt.

Stock marketers created these things called Web Bots, which would search the internet which would scan for ideas that they could invest in. They found it to be very accurate, and searched disasters. It correctly predicted 9/11 a month before it happened, saying that a building would be hit and people would die. In 2004, it predicted that a tsunami would hit and kill many people. It came true on Dec. 26, 2004 when it hit along southern Asia, East Africa, and West Australia.

The I Chang was created in China by an emperor that said it could predict the future. First, you ask your question. Then you flip 3 coins, and you check which appeared more, heads or tails. If it was more heads, you drew one straight, horizantal line. If its more tails, you draw a broken line. You repeat this 6 times until you have a series of lines. Then you check a piece of paper that gave results for each series of lines possible. You check yours and it should give an answer close to the question being asked. (Im not so sure this is a good method, but I included it anyway.)

There have been countless merlins (hermits who posses "magic") that predicted this fate also.
Native Americans predicted that war between us would kill us off, when war was most active(people thinking now)

Underground_Network
February 13th, 2008, 05:45 PM
The world will end. Period. I wish we could pinpoint it to 2012, but we never know. For all we know, the world could end before 2012, or it could end a billion years from now. There are all sorts of scientific theories out there, and though humans are, in some people's eyes, "overdue for extinction", and there's yellowstone, various other calderas, the speculation that we're headed into an unstable part of the galaxy, the idea that the sun is becoming overly tumultuous, it doesn't mean these things will happen any time soon. I firmly believe humans will eventually go extinct, and the earth will suffer through some harsh times, possibly causing all life to go extinct. I think Mars originally had complex life forms on it, but that all life on Mars eventually ceased to exist. I think the same will happen to the earth. I don't know how, as there are way too many theories to choose from, but I think with so many theories out there, and so many of them put out there by scientists who have done their research, we better be careful and seriously look towards the future. Humans should also be aware their own technology, greed, and arrogance could lead to the downfall their own species...

Natoja12
February 13th, 2008, 07:01 PM
LOL the thing is that the anceint mians some of the smartest aceint people we no used to beleive that 2012 was the end of the world. But does anyone remember the year 1999? everyone got all worked up over 2000 because they didnt think the computers could handle it and a hole bunch of other weird stuff. My father went down and turned his computer on, hes still alive. From about 2009 on people are going to start hearing about this and more stuff is going to happen and scientists are going to try and convince evryone that its the end. And 2012 is going to come and theylle be saying "Oh 2 minutes befor i figure it couldnt happen" and all of that, dont worry one bit lol

monkshood
February 13th, 2008, 07:57 PM
LMFAO... I mean is it really necessary to create that kind of panic again?... or do the business in general need to get their sales up that bad?

Octo22
February 13th, 2008, 08:48 PM
To everyone who brought up Y2K, stop wasting the discussions time.

There's a big difference between advanced civilizations predicting things from millions of years ago, with almost all religions making some reference to it.

Y2K was just some dumb scientists with the whole "oh no we never plugged in a year 2000 in computers so they might turn into giant killing robots! and nukes will all launch randomly!"

There was no science or thought behind Y2K, the Mayan's 2012 at least has some credible people behind it.

Hauptmann Kauffman
February 13th, 2008, 10:26 PM
*yawn*

2012 is bullshit, everyone with half a brain knows it is, scientists know it is, everyone knows it. if the world will end then, why make plans for future elections like we are now? There would be no point. Its all bullshit

Octo22
February 13th, 2008, 11:12 PM
Ever think it's a theory?

Gravity is a theory but that seems to have some belief behind it.

Hauptmann Kauffman
February 13th, 2008, 11:16 PM
Gravity is a proven fact, you cant compare them. You can deny gravity, but its still there And yes, 2012 is a theory, a RETARDED FAKE ONE!:D

Aηdy
February 14th, 2008, 08:05 AM
You know what I say?

We'll find out in 2012.
That's about all there is to it.

Until then, I'm not planning my life to end in 2012.
I'll go on doing what I do, and if everyone does die then, at least I'll know I did what I could when I could do it.

Exactly!

The Entertainer
February 14th, 2008, 10:15 AM
The world has been scheduled to end for hundreds of years. 1984 was one year, 6.06.06 was another (btw, the devil's number isnt 666, its a mistranslation, its 616). A prediction of the world's end is complete BS!
We are, however, overdue for a big hit from a meteor, by a few thousand years I think,and the entire of Yellowstone park is due to blow at any moment. If we were to be hit by a meteorite, we would get around 1.5 seconds warning, but the chances are remote, especially with our gravitational friend Jupiter taking most of the blows!

Hauptmann Kauffman
February 14th, 2008, 01:35 PM
Yay Jupiter!:D

Octo22
February 14th, 2008, 03:00 PM
The world has been scheduled to end for hundreds of years. 1984 was one year, 6.06.06 was another (btw, the devil's number isnt 666, its a mistranslation, its 616).

That's because these aren't predictions from a MILLION years ago.

Large difference between mayans and kids going "omg lol it makes 666!111 rawk on!"

Gravity is a proven fact, you cant compare them. You can deny gravity, but its still there And yes, 2012 is a theory, a RETARDED FAKE ONE!:D

Gravity isn't fact ;)
Same as the big bang, or relativity.
If they were fact, they wouldn't be theory.

Whisper
February 14th, 2008, 04:18 PM
gravity is a fact were just not sure why or why its so utterly weak

The Entertainer
February 14th, 2008, 05:46 PM
Newton's "Principa" basically proved without all doubt that gravity exists. Its more than a theory, its fact, and one of the most solid pieces of knowledge we have of the universe.
We can, of course, take everything to its extremes about whether anything is fact or theory. For example, biologically speaking evolution is technically a theory, but hardly anyone would doubt that this is not true, or at least the basics arent true.
Philosophically speaking, its even more extreme. I could, quite easily,doubt the existence of everything I see. After all, I could be the only being that exists, everything else is a figment of my imagination.
This wouldnt be a healthy position for anyone to take, so I would always state that gravity exists as mathematical formulae, proven by Newton, has shown. In fact, it was arguably the greatest mathematical concept ever devised by the intelligent mind!

Underground_Network
February 14th, 2008, 07:38 PM
Comparing past predictions to 2012 is ignorant. Y2K has no backing compared to 2012. Y2K could be considered an off-the-wall theory created by "loonies", but 2012 is not that. Now I think it is nearly impossible to pinpoint an exact date that something catastrophic will occur, but by examining patterns scientists can get a pretty good idea. By pretty good idea I mean within 35,000 years or so. I think an extremely catastrophic, earth-shattering, extinction-causing event is highly likely to occur eventually. Whether it be in 2012 or 35000 years later, it will occur. 2012 isn't just some wild theory though, it is a theory, and it most of its scientific backing, though 100% true in terms of studies and facts, doesn't pinpoint an exact date, it only guesstimates. Scientists cannot pinpoint exact dates, and though there seem to have been people who have foreseen the future in the past, its way too tough to take their word for it, even if they've been right a million times before. Again, will something catastrophic occur in the future, YES, will it occur in our lifetime, THERE IS A SLIGHT POSSIBILITY. The only thing that can be pinpointed to 2012 is the theory that Earth is headed into an unstable part of the galaxy and will be crushed/destroyed. Its the only theory that proves we'll be in the part of the galaxy in 2012, the only problem with the theory, is that they do not know how powerful a force Earth will be up against. That part of the galaxy could do nothing to Earth or wipe out all life. The thing is, they really have no clue as to what damage it will cause, if it causes any damage at all. (This is all from the back of my mind [things I remember from reading online articles and my book.. If you want more factual information just look it up or look up the book Apocalypse 2012)

Kang
March 1st, 2008, 09:56 PM
Comparing past predictions to 2012 is ignorant. Y2K has no backing compared to 2012. Y2K could be considered an off-the-wall theory created by "loonies", but 2012 is not that. Now I think it is nearly impossible to pinpoint an exact date that something catastrophic will occur, but by examining patterns scientists can get a pretty good idea. By pretty good idea I mean within 35,000 years or so. I think an extremely catastrophic, earth-shattering, extinction-causing event is highly likely to occur eventually. Whether it be in 2012 or 35000 years later, it will occur. 2012 isn't just some wild theory though, it is a theory, and it most of its scientific backing, though 100% true in terms of studies and facts, doesn't pinpoint an exact date, it only guesstimates. Scientists cannot pinpoint exact dates, and though there seem to have been people who have foreseen the future in the past, its way too tough to take their word for it, even if they've been right a million times before. Again, will something catastrophic occur in the future, YES, will it occur in our lifetime, THERE IS A SLIGHT POSSIBILITY. The only thing that can be pinpointed to 2012 is the theory that Earth is headed into an unstable part of the galaxy and will be crushed/destroyed. Its the only theory that proves we'll be in the part of the galaxy in 2012, the only problem with the theory, is that they do not know how powerful a force Earth will be up against. That part of the galaxy could do nothing to Earth or wipe out all life. The thing is, they really have no clue as to what damage it will cause, if it causes any damage at all. (This is all from the back of my mind [things I remember from reading online articles and my book.. If you want more factual information just look it up or look up the book Apocalypse 2012)

i agree with the most part of that. but so many people back way far back predicted this *one date* will be earths final death day.

there are the four major catastrophees (spl.?) earth has had already, and the clock of doom has five points, which also make up leviathan eating his tail (ouroboros, or end of the world) the final point is at his head eating his tail (destine 2012, decemeber 21). each catastrophee (spl.?) happens ever 6480. go back 6480 years from 2012 and its 4,468 BC. which is when a LOT of humans died out from a meteor i believe (im not sure about each catastrophee, but each one had made a huge decrease in mankind for that year and several after, then mankind got smarter (IE egyptions after 4,468 BC in 3500BC about)

then go back another 6480 years from 4,468 BC and its 10,948 BC this catastrophee wiped out a lot of mankind and animals by a tidal wave (which then flooded for about 2 years) (most of man was by the water so it got rid of most of em). then go back ANOTHER 6480 years, and its 17,428 BC glaciers rose 400 something feet, and crushed huge parts of the earth. now go back again 6480 years 23908 BC where mankind got altered by a meteor (theory on that one)

thats my view on it.

japanman
March 1st, 2008, 11:04 PM
:yawn::yawn: man this thread still goes. 2012 we might die and so what if that doesnt happen we got other doomsdays like global warming, tsunamis, alians, dieses. huge dust storms, valcanos , hurricans man if the world could just figure out that we will die we could focuse on the present on the proplems in the world now.

Underground_Network
March 2nd, 2008, 03:12 PM
The world will die eventually... Everything dies... When we die off, a new species will replace us, and that species won't necessarily originate on Earth.. In my biology class we've been discussing the side topic (its not our main focus) of evolution, and our teacher told us that all life on Earth originated from single-cell organisms from outerspace... Thus whenever we die off, life will most likely begin anew elsewhere..I think we will become extinct at one point.. Why I do not know. In reality nobody knows. Even if psychics are real, they can only predict the future, they cannot prematurely inform us of our fates. We are not doomed to anything, we have the power to make our own decisions.. We could end our own existence at any time.. There's no telling how or when we will die.. The only thing we can know is that there is a 99% chance that we will go extinct, and that the earth will be "destroyed" or at least cease to support life. We cannot know how or why until during or after it has happened. You can't know the future. You can predict, project, etc., but you cannot know the future. The future is NOT written in stone. Anything can be prevented if you take the time to figure out how to prevent it, and if you can discover what it is you need to prevent. With all the knowledge we have of probable causes of extinction or total annihilation of all human life, we should be able to figure out ways to prevent them all. Prevention is not impossible, knowing the future is. We WILL ALL die; when, how, and why, we do not know, and will not know until it is occurring/has occurred. And even then, it may be too late to understand what is happening/or what has happened. [This is another case of my brain spewing out random knowledge]

Sugaree
March 4th, 2008, 05:00 PM
As I said that's gonna be the day when people say that "God is Dead"

I don't think it will happen. It is a simple theory not acctuallity. I mean all the morons need to get real. (not saying anyone on here is a moron)