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DerBear
July 27th, 2011, 07:18 AM
Why do people Jailbrake A device I wonder this as why get a device if you know you will have to jailbrake it to get what you need.

Its kinda like the people who hack on something like COD to get to 10th prestige or 15th prestige its like why do it? Why not play the game properly.

So why do people Jailbrake?

AutoPlay
July 27th, 2011, 07:46 AM
Jailbreaking was originally intended so people who arnt official apple developers could have thier app used on an iPhone or iPod. However, when theres a good side theres a bad side and piracy was introduced.

Id love to see someone jailbreak iOS5.

Continuum
July 27th, 2011, 08:40 AM
Because people are cheapskates and can't spare some money for applications.

Perseus
July 27th, 2011, 09:24 AM
From what I've seen, there's more customability and free stuff. What not to like?

Unlucky_Leprechaun
July 27th, 2011, 10:02 AM
From what I've seen, there's more customability and free stuff. What not to like?

I have never done it but know quite a few who have. Some devices act weird and you can have issues with it and from my understanding "restoring: an apple product back to it's original configuration/settings is pretty easy.

MattVon
July 27th, 2011, 10:56 AM
Jailbreaking compared to hacking on a video game.. Hm, I don't understand how you managed to compare them. Hacking on CoD to achieve a prestige level is nothing like jailbreaking, and I agree it is pathetic. But jailbreaking unlocks a lot of good stuff on idevices. I for one have no money to spare for applications in Apples online store, so I'd much prefer to get them via a jailbroken device. I have plenty of experience owning a jailbroken iPod Touch, and I really enjoyed it. Being capable of getting something for free, that I couldn't have got otherwise. It's the same with anything else.. Music, videos, games, anything. At the end of the day, pirates (as they are considered) are not harming you, so why complain? Join 'em I say, much more fun.

DerBear
July 27th, 2011, 11:05 AM
Jailbreaking compared to hacking on a video game.. Hm, I don't understand how you managed to compare them. Hacking on CoD to achieve a prestige level is nothing like jailbreaking, and I agree it is pathetic. But jailbreaking unlocks a lot of good stuff on idevices. I for one have no money to spare for applications in Apples online store, so I'd much prefer to get them via a jailbroken device. I have plenty of experience owning a jailbroken iPod Touch, and I really enjoyed it. Being capable of getting something for free, that I couldn't have got otherwise. It's the same with anything else.. Music, videos, games, anything. At the end of the day, pirates (as they are considered) are not harming you, so why complain? Join 'em I say, much more fun.

Yes sorry i did not explain that one very well

What i mean is like:

Call of duty black ops people say "i want to get to 15th prestige" Now there is 2 ways to do this. 1 is to do it legit 2nd is to hack to get up 2 15th prestige

Now to get a new app you can do it legit via buying it or you can do it via jailbrake

So therefor what i was saying is why buy the device if you cant get apps very well or stable without using a jailbrake

Unlucky_Leprechaun
July 27th, 2011, 11:17 AM
Jailbreaking compared to hacking on a video game.. Hm, I don't understand how you managed to compare them. Hacking on CoD to achieve a prestige level is nothing like jailbreaking, and I agree it is pathetic. But jailbreaking unlocks a lot of good stuff on idevices. I for one have no money to spare for applications in Apples online store, so I'd much prefer to get them via a jailbroken device. I have plenty of experience owning a jailbroken iPod Touch, and I really enjoyed it. Being capable of getting something for free, that I couldn't have got otherwise. It's the same with anything else.. Music, videos, games, anything. At the end of the day, pirates (as they are considered) are not harming you, so why complain? Join 'em I say, much more fun.

At the end of the day..isn't it illegal ? "Being capable of getting something for free, that I couldn't have got otherwise". I personally have never owned a jailbroke device and really do not have that much experience with them, but I would believe that it would increase the costs,eventually, to the people who are paying and adhering to the laws, would you want someone "stealing" from you? Again, it is what it is and jail breaking will not go away... for every new device that comes out... there are a team of "pirates" attempting to get into the backdoor and jail break it.

MattVon
July 27th, 2011, 11:21 AM
I think people who just hack to get to a high level is silly, the whole idea of prestiging is to show you have put time into the game and earned it. I much prefer the legit method for this. Well, the main fuctionality of an iPod Touch (or iPhone/iPad) in some cases is not to just purchase apps. You can get free apps, play music, FaceTime and much more. At the moment I don't have my device jailbroken because it's become my place for playing music when I'm in the car, but before when it was jailbroken I did it because I didn't want to spend money on something I knew I wouldn't keep long; and especially on stuff I was unable to test before hand. I just think jailbreaking is an essential thing but that's my opinion, I'm sure you highly disagree with it.

MattVon
July 27th, 2011, 11:27 AM
At the end of the day..isn't it illegal ? "Being capable of getting something for free, that I couldn't have got otherwise". I personally have never owned a jailbroke device and really do not have that much experience with them, but I would believe that it would increase the costs,eventually, to the people who are paying and adhering to the laws, would you want someone "stealing" from you? Again, it is what it is and jail breaking will not go away... for every new device that comes out... there are a team of "pirates" attempting to get into the backdoor and jail break it.
Yes, it is illegal but that doesn't bother me nor does it bother the people who do it. If jailbreaking did increase the costs (which I don't think it does) then Apple wouldn't be releasing a lower priced iPhone off contract. Plus, most apps go on sales and even become free for minor occurrences. The only thing Apple are doing is patching jailbreaking methods as they want to crush the people who make jailbreaking available. Increasing the prices would be something that will only make things worse for them as a company as it can push customers away.

Physically stealing from me, no I wouldn't like it. Virtually stealing, I've got less chance of knowing about it than I do if I've physically become a victim to theft at my own home. You can mention this "Would you like it..." story but I'll still be in favour for illegal software. At the end of the day, I favour illegal downloads for many many many many many many reasons.

DerBear
July 27th, 2011, 11:27 AM
Matthwe

your right i do disagree because in a sense it is people like me who pay money for this stuff...and i have to in a sense pay for you too because as Jon said in a sense we pay more because of people who jailbrake. To me why buy a device or game ect if you wont play by the rules and use it properly ----> that includes buying apps if one chooses too.

MattVon
July 27th, 2011, 11:30 AM
your right i do disagree because in a sense it is people like me who pay money for this stuff...and i have to in a sense pay for you too because as Jon said in a sense we pay more because of people who jailbrake. To me why buy a device or game ect if you wont play by the rules and use it properly ----> that includes buying apps if one chooses too.I highly doubt you're paying for me, put it this way. There are MANY people who choose jailbreaking, and as you said yourself it will never go away. So if you're convinced you will have to pay for people who jailbreak, why waste your money? Join jailbreaking, save yourself money. I originally bought my iPod Touch for music and capabilities of browsing the web and talking to friends originally. Jailbreaking didn't come to my attention until a month later, and I liked the idea of it so I tried it.

DerBear
July 27th, 2011, 12:00 PM
I highly doubt you're paying for me, put it this way. There are MANY people who choose jailbreaking, and as you said yourself it will never go away. So if you're convinced you will have to pay for people who jailbreak, why waste your money? Join jailbreaking, save yourself money. I originally bought my iPod Touch for music and capabilities of browsing the web and talking to friends originally. Jailbreaking didn't come to my attention until a month later, and I liked the idea of it so I tried it.

But doing this is silly. Jailbraking give people who cannot afford this stuff off of the store the content but what about the 1000s of others who can offord it but cant jailbrake. and yes they do and are working away around the abiltity to jailbrake

Sad i wish there was away to catch people who jailbrake

UnknownError
July 27th, 2011, 12:09 PM
Because people are cheapskates and can't spare some money for applications.

This.
People I know that have jailbroke iPhone's are like "I love _____ I wish they'd make more of it" but if everyone is taking it for free, the makers dont have enough money to make more of the app.

Azunite
July 27th, 2011, 12:26 PM
Its kinda like the people who hack on something like COD to get to 10th prestige or 15th prestige its like why do it? Why not play the game properly.

I'm sorry was that supposed to be an example?

Deathwingo0o
July 27th, 2011, 12:35 PM
I am an ex-iphone user and this is how i feel. Apple use CLOSED source system, but android is semi-closed. As to why jailbreak, lets see. Can your phone shut up when its flipped over? Can your phone unlock using methods like android drawing? Can your phone voice control be customized? Can your phone greet you when unlocking?(a bit long for unlock sound but it rocks in public places). That nuf said? If you want any help feel free to pm me though :)

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TheMatrix
July 27th, 2011, 12:43 PM
Sad i wish there was away to catch people who jailbrake
That was being done some time ago. Apple could "brick"(aka, render it useless) your iphone or whatever. Then you'd take it to the Apple store and they wouldn't fix it because you violated their warranty plan/thing.
There were numerous lawsuits about that, so I think Apple stopped doing that.
But you never know...

DerBear
July 27th, 2011, 01:55 PM
I'm sorry was that supposed to be an example?

I know i explained it badly but i did explain more in my later post

its like you can get apps 2 ways the legit way where you pay money or jailbrake

for cod you can get to the top prestige 2 ways first is you earn it --the legit way or you can hack it

(the example was not important )

Also Matrix

I do remember seeing a lot on TV about the ways to stop piracy and things related and i think we should have much more harder laws on things like this instead of maybe a fine or just the loss of your ipod or iphone

and i also agree with what charlie said

Azunite
July 27th, 2011, 01:58 PM
I know i explained it badly but i did explain more in my later post

its like you can get apps 2 ways the legit way where you pay money or jailbrake



People don't shit money from their asses, it's completely natural for people to hack a system and try to get something free.

Lawliet
July 27th, 2011, 02:15 PM
I believe the intended purpose was for homebrew apps and more control customability. Although it has been altered to serve piracy and other actions.

DoctorWho
July 27th, 2011, 02:20 PM
Jailbreaking can get you stuff for free or hacks like the ipod

russjr08
July 27th, 2011, 02:58 PM
It's mainly so people who didn't have the $99 license could publish there apps and test them. Also, there is more of customization with it. Like for example, Dreamboard, an app on Cydia allows you to theme your device, one of the themes is Endroid so you can make your iPod look like an Android (and you can fool your friends :P)

There are many reasons.

Hatsune Miku
July 27th, 2011, 10:59 PM
It's simple. You're able to customize alot more to your liking, download apps for free instead of paying, and have access to custom made apps not available in the app store (for whatever device)

Pedobear app? *thumbs up*

MattVon
July 29th, 2011, 05:58 AM
But doing this is silly. Jailbraking give people who cannot afford this stuff off of the store the content but what about the 1000s of others who can offord it but cant jailbrake. and yes they do and are working away around the abiltity to jailbrakeI should have mentioned this earlier, but piracy got the better of me and I completely forgot, although another member has touched upon this already. Jailbreaking essentially gives you an app which can allow you custimise your iDevice further than what you can originally do by default without jailbreaking. Now, Hackulous is what is required to get apps for free, which you don't get by default. So technically, it's people who get hackulous you want to be slapping.

Sad i wish there was away to catch people who jailbrakeI'm sure if it was possible, it would have been... Oh wait, they've tried over and over and still can't do it. :yeah:
At the end of the day, I believe the publishers are unharmed and so are the public who purchase the apps.

This.
People I know that have jailbroke iPhone's are like "I love _____ I wish they'd make more of it" but if everyone is taking it for free, the makers dont have enough money to make more of the app.To be honest, I don't think this is much of an issue. Especially when they put the app on for sale at such an incredibly low price compared to REAL applications found on computers. The money will only go to their pocket if anything.

People don't shit money from their asses, it's completely natural for people to hack a system and try to get something free.:yes:

DerBear
July 29th, 2011, 06:06 AM
I get it people dont shit money from there asses as one member said but at the end of the day...Why risk getting caught and the device goes inactive

also not all people can do it....So it really comes down to who can and who cant at least when u cant jailbrake everyone is the same in a sense as they have to get everything the same way

MattVon
July 29th, 2011, 06:09 AM
I get it people dont shit money from there asses as one member said but at the end of the day...Why risk getting caught and the device goes inactive
Think about how many have been caught.. The only person I can name is GeoHot, but he is responsible for the unlocking/jailbreaking of the device. I don't know anyone on the news related to downloading apps illegally. And why do anything in life if there's a risk? It's all about the fun and experience I think. That's why I do it, experience of having a jailbroken device and fun to do it. Plus, I've never had an inactive device.

DerBear
July 29th, 2011, 08:19 AM
Think about how many have been caught.. The only person I can name is GeoHot, but he is responsible for the unlocking/jailbreaking of the device. I don't know anyone on the news related to downloading apps illegally. And why do anything in life if there's a risk? It's all about the fun and experience I think. That's why I do it, experience of having a jailbroken device and fun to do it. Plus, I've never had an inactive device.

A lot of people cant jailbrake and/or know about it so why cant we all be the same when it comes to something like this

TheMatrix
July 29th, 2011, 11:49 AM
A lot of people cant jailbrake and/or know about it so why cant we all be the same when it comes to something like this
"A lot of people can't remodel their house or don't know about it so why can't we all be the same when it comes to something like this[by refusing them a remodel]"

DerBear
July 29th, 2011, 03:08 PM
"A lot of people can't remodel their house or don't know about it so why can't we all be the same when it comes to something like this[by refusing them a remodel]"

its not the same

TheMatrix
July 29th, 2011, 03:22 PM
its not the same
You're right. That was a terrible comparison.
I'll try that again:
I can't use the computer, so why can't we all be the same and nobody uses the computer.

DerBear
July 29th, 2011, 03:54 PM
You're right. That was a terrible comparison.
I'll try that again:
I can't use the computer, so why can't we all be the same and nobody uses the computer.

Ok so let me say this if 1000 people got an app free due to jailbrake then it should be free for everyone not just people who have the skill to jailbrake

TheMatrix
July 29th, 2011, 04:05 PM
Ok so let me say this if 1000 people got an app free due to jailbrake then it should be free for everyone not just people who have the skill to jailbrake
Not necessarily......
It's survival/prospering of the fittest these days, buddy. Get used to it or don't use it.

inb4 lock

DerBear
July 29th, 2011, 04:24 PM
Not necessarily......
It's survival/prospering of the fittest these days, buddy. Get used to it or don't use it.

inb4 lock

I am used to it yes I just find why not just pay for it as it is much better and i think as the world of things grow so will the security and in doing so will the battle to save a little money when it comes to stuff like that

TheMatrix
July 29th, 2011, 04:32 PM
I am used to it yes I just find why not just pay for it as it is much better
Right then.....
You know how I use Linux? Yeah, it's free. It's better than Windows and Mac, IMO. So no, just because I charge you money for something, does not mean it is better(unless you're gullible, in which case I can't help you).

and i think as the world of things grow so will the security and in doing so will the battle to save a little money when it comes to stuff like that
That made no sense whatsoever.
Try again.

Malcolm Tucker
July 29th, 2011, 04:32 PM
OH-KAY. Here's a novel idea - stop spamming the thread, further derailing it, and get back to the topic at hand. If a thread goes off topic, then go report it rather than keep getting further and further off topic. The report button gets lonely.

On topic, NOW. From here on in, infractions will be handed out to further offenders. Kthx.

MattVon
July 29th, 2011, 05:03 PM
A lot of people cant jailbrake and/or know about it so why cant we all be the same when it comes to something like thisA lot of people can't do this and that, doesn't mean life has to be set into place so it fits for the people who can't do it.

Ok so let me say this if 1000 people got an app free due to jailbrake then it should be free for everyone not just people who have the skill to jailbrakeOkay, 1000 people compared to a possible 6 million+ people. Do the math. Plus, if you want to put this into consideration, people close friends of developers may get things for free. At the end of the day, people put a price tag on their apps (as with everything else) because they want to make money, people will find ways of getting it for free. No biggie, the developers will still make money from other people. I'll pay for something when I want it legit, ie. popular video games.

Mod note: well done on ignoring what I said. Get past it and keep on topic, not giving out about my decisions. - Michael

CantLiveWithoutYou
July 29th, 2011, 05:26 PM
Yo dawg we put brakes on yo jail so you could brake while you jail. Jailbreaking is bullshit and does basically nothing. Rooting FTW. Android>iOS

Axxe_Man
July 30th, 2011, 03:00 AM
I know I great list of games that you can get for ps3 if running on 3.55 CTW games cost around $60 a piece. I wish that I was smart enough to be able to bypass updates needed to play online but unfourtunatly I'm not :/ oh well. but jailbreaking (jb) is used to obtain items for free or in ur case hacking games. I used to have a jb ps3 & ran CL for mw2... then 3.56 came out...

I heard that all 11th prestige ppl will be banned from COD on August 1st of 2011 so I got into a 10th prestige lobby X)

DerBear
July 30th, 2011, 08:17 AM
I know I great list of games that you can get for ps3 if running on 3.55 CTW games cost around $60 a piece. I wish that I was smart enough to be able to bypass updates needed to play online but unfourtunatly I'm not :/ oh well. but jailbreaking (jb) is used to obtain items for free or in ur case hacking games. I used to have a jb ps3 & ran CL for mw2... then 3.56 came out...

I heard that all 11th prestige ppl will be banned from COD on August 1st of 2011 so I got into a 10th prestige lobby X)

Not trying to go off topic here but i think that they cant ban all 11th prestigers all you have to do is look at stats to see if you have a hacker

Hatsune Miku
July 30th, 2011, 09:53 AM
Ok so let me say this if 1000 people got an app free due to jailbrake then it should be free for everyone not just people who have the skill to jailbrake

Or you know, you could just go on youtube and search how to jailbreak. It doesn't take any skill. All you do is download a program, plug your iPod in, then click a single button that says "Make it ra1n" then you wait and it's done.

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407000936/sonicfanon/images/2/2e/Twilight_Derp.jpg

I'm ready for my infrac.

ShatteredWings
July 30th, 2011, 06:32 PM
OP requests lock