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RoseyCadaver
July 23rd, 2011, 02:51 PM
Scientists have created more than 150 human-animal hybrid embryos in British laboratories.

The hybrids have been produced secretively over the past three years by researchers looking into possible cures for a wide range of diseases.

The revelation comes just a day after a committee of scientists warned of a nightmare ‘Planet of the Apes’ scenario in which work on human-animal creations goes too far.

Last night a campaigner against the excesses of medical research said he was disgusted that scientists were ‘dabbling in the grotesque’.

Figures seen by the Daily Mail show that 155 ‘admixed’ embryos, containing both human and animal genetic material, have been created since the introduction of the 2008 Human Fertilisation Embryology Act.

This legalised the creation of a variety of hybrids, including an animal egg fertilised by a human sperm; ‘cybrids’, in which a human nucleus is implanted into an animal cell; and ‘chimeras’, in which human cells are mixed with animal embryos.

Scientists say the techniques can be used to develop embryonic stem cells which can be used to treat a range of incurable illnesses.



Three labs in the UK – at King’s College London, Newcastle University and Warwick University – were granted licences to carry out the research after the Act came into force.

All have now stopped creating hybrid embryos due to a lack of funding, but scientists believe that there will be more such work in the future.

The figure was revealed to crossbench peer Lord Alton following a Parliamentary question.

Last night he said: ‘I argued in Parliament against the creation of human- animal hybrids as a matter of principle. None of the scientists who appeared before us could give us any justification in terms of treatment.

‘Ethically it can never be justifiable – it discredits us as a country. It is dabbling in the grotesque.

‘At every stage the justification from scientists has been: if only you allow us to do this, we will find cures for every illness known to mankind. This is emotional blackmail.

‘Of the 80 treatments and cures which have come about from stem cells, all have come from adult stem cells – not embryonic ones.
‘On moral and ethical grounds this fails; and on scientific and medical ones too.’

Josephine Quintavalle, of pro-life group Comment on Reproductive Ethics, said: ‘I am aghast that this is going on and we didn’t know anything about it.

‘Why have they kept this a secret? If they are proud of what they are doing, why do we need to ask Parliamentary questions for this to come to light?

‘The problem with many scientists is that they want to do things because they want to experiment. That is not a good enough rationale.’
Test centre: Newcastle University was another site where human animal hybrid testing was being undertaken

Test centre: Newcastle University was another site where human animal hybrid testing was being undertaken

Earlier this week, a group of leading scientists warned about ‘Planet of the Apes’ experiments. They called for new rules to prevent lab animals being given human attributes, for example by injecting human stem cells into the brains of primates.

But the lead author of their report, Professor Robin Lovell-Badge, from the Medical Research Council’ s National Institute for Medical Research, said the scientists were not concerned about human-animal hybrid embryos because by law these have to be destroyed within 14 days.

He said: ‘The reason for doing these experiments is to understand more about early human development and come up with ways of curing serious diseases, and as a scientist I feel there is a moral imperative to pursue this research.

‘As long as we have sufficient controls – as we do in this country – we should be proud of the research.’

However, he called for stricter controls on another type of embryo research, in which animal embryos are implanted with a small amount of human genetic material.

Human-animal hybrids are also created in other countries, many of which have little or no regulation.




Source:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017818/Embryos-involving-genes-animals-mixed-humans-produced-secretively-past-years.html

Also found:
http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/business/a/-/technology/9900405/Human-animal-hybrid-created-amid-Frankenstein-warnings/

Scientists in the UK have reportedly created more than 150 human-animal hybrid embryos in controversial secretive lab experiments that spread over three years, The Daily Mail has reported.

The stunning revelation has come just a day after a committee of researchers urged for rules governing the creation and use of such hybrid embryos, warning of a ‘Planet of the Apes’ scenario.

The experiment that sounds straight out of a science fiction movie has been described by campaigners as 'dabbling in the grotesque' and has raised concerns about the creation of a ‘Frankenstein-like’ monster if it goes wrong.

While these types of experiments don’t seem likely, some researchers argue they could be valuable, the Associated Press reports.

Scientists claim this legalised the creation of hybrids which includes a primate egg fertilised by a human sperm can be used to develop embryonic stem cells which can be used to treat a range of incurable illnesses.

According to The Daily Mail, three labs in the UK were granted licences to carry out the research after the Act came into force but all have now stopped creating hybrid embryos due to a lack of funding.

These labs were at King’s College London, Newcastle University and Warwick University.

The Academy of Medical Sciences has asked for a regulatory body to closely monitor any experiments that risk creating animals with human-like traits or giving animals any appearance or behavioural attributes to resemble humans.
Human-animal hybrids are also reportedly created in other countries, many of which have little or no regulation.



So what do you think?I find it a little fishy,I'm not sure if it's true,or some kind of thing to get attention.All though I'm sure it is very possible,I just think it would get more attention if it's true.Any thoughts?

Travis Is Losing It
July 24th, 2011, 08:28 AM
Considering at one time we didnt know fire existed. we didnt know electricity existed. And just look at the advancements we go through in a few years. Something like this IMO can be done with enough funding and technology and time. Morally i think its wrong. The only creation of human embryos should be used for study and not actually done.

Sage
July 24th, 2011, 03:43 PM
Considering at one time we didnt know fire existed. we didnt know electricity existed. And just look at the advancements we go through in a few years. Something like this IMO can be done with enough funding and technology and time. Morally i think its wrong. The only creation of human embryos should be used for study and not actually done.

What's morally wrong about it?

Continuum
July 25th, 2011, 08:11 AM
What's morally wrong about it?

Yeah, since it's for the development of the human race, why stop it?

Magus
July 25th, 2011, 08:21 AM
Humanonkeeeeeeeeeeeey!!

Thanks for the share SS.

User Deleted
July 25th, 2011, 03:57 PM
I have looked a little into this before this thread. I don't really have much to say about it other than I feel neutral in terms of the testing. However it was interesting.

Sith Lord 13
July 28th, 2011, 03:07 AM
Science is science. There is nothing wrong with what was done.

CantLiveWithoutYou
July 28th, 2011, 04:01 PM
This is just fucking disgusting, imagine what shit they put living things through... This is something that belongs in movies and games, not real life, ever.

User Deleted
July 28th, 2011, 06:17 PM
This is just fucking disgusting, imagine what shit they put living things through... This is something that belongs in movies and games, not real life, ever.

Doesn't matter, if you are alive there will be trials, get over it. Every living organism experiences hardships in some way or another.

CantLiveWithoutYou
July 28th, 2011, 06:21 PM
Doesn't matter, if you are alive there will be trials, get over it. Every living organism experiences hardships in some way or another.

Pro-animal cruelty, you're so cool dude.

User Deleted
July 28th, 2011, 07:38 PM
Pro-animal cruelty, you're so cool dude.

You took my message wrong. I actually love animals ugly or not. (refers to blobfish) I simply mean your point doesn't uphold itself strongly. And if you read my post on animal rights debate you might respect my point a little more. This is what I specifically wanted you to read:



As for animal testing... I guess I have to say it is allowed... BUT only if there is a GOOD reason.



I like your ideas. As for talking, we dont need them to talk, If the dog is missing a leg, he dont have to tell us hes missing a leg.

But if we want to make things like those human animal embryos we need to assume if it would have a good life as a "freak" Or like testing on rats, it might hurt them.

In other words, it depends if it would have a good life. Besides, laws prevent them from developing past 14 days therefor they do not have the capability to understand pain or discomfort so as I see it as long as they obey the 14 day rule I see nothing wrong, nobody is hurt.


Also please note how impossibly hard it was not to troll you for that.