Norway horror: 80 die in camp shooting, 7 in blast

[ShyGuyInChicago]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_NORWAY_EXPLOSION?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2011-07-22-21-55-59%3Cbr%20/%3E%3Cbr%20/%3EI



I cannot even comprehend one person shooting 80 people to death.:(

[Sage]

Wow, I didn't think it was even realistically possible to kill that many people on your own all at once. This is the stuff of B-movies.

[MilitemDilectam]

Obviously, as with every person whose life has ended too soon..my prayers are with all of them..

[Dimitri]

Just got home from being a camp councilor this week and then getting ready to go back on Sunday, this really mankes me feel uneasy going back.

[Magus]

Ohw my fucking God... Norway? WHY!

[TheMatrix]

Wow.......I didn't know that was even possible!

[Jimmy Page]

This is unreal that anyone could do something like this,and believe that what they did was the right thing to do.A friend of mine was one of the 84 people that died on Utøya :(,he did not shoot all of them,at least 30 of them drowned trying to swim to the mainland.What i find a little bit irritating is that the man that did it gets maximum 21 years because that's the highest time u get sentenced to.But lets not focus on that,focus on the families that are affected by this tragedy,not the man that did it,it is what he wants.

[FcknMarc]

I read it was a retaliation against Muslims ? Sad.

[Rainstorm]

Death total up to 90 now according to CNN. Most likely to increase due to bodies of children in water.

[Hershey's Kisses]

My Gosh I am seriously disgusted . How could this happen ? So many innocent lives lost . It's not fair . I cannot believe this and the fact that everyday more people are killed . Sometimes living in this world is more of a nightmare than a privilege . This is extremely depressing .. I can't even fathom why someone would kill children at a summer camp like that . I'm really scared now . Afraid to even leave my house .

[LifeisLife]

I have some friends that actually LIVE in Oslo who heard and saw the building during the explosion! They said it was horribly frightening and they never want to see something like that again. Nobody really knew what to do... I also heard that not 80, but 91+ people died by now. :/

[Jimmy Page]

the number is 91,84 was shot or drowned,and 7 died in the explosion

[Dimitri]

This stuff makes me sick!!

[Hope4u]

I saw it this morning and I am soo upset about this...why target the kids at a camp, they were innocent victims in all of this..I understand the bomb was at the Prime Minister's office or something and that makes sense as a political target, but those kids did not deserve any of this...I'm praying for the victims, survivors and all the families involved.

[Jimmy Page]

the kids were members of the same political party as the prime minister,but that is no reason for shooting innocent kids that only want to fight for what they believe in.

[Genghis Khan]

Saw this on bbcnews this morning, other than the fundamentalist Christian websites, another motivation for his actions was multi-cultural integration, especially the influx of Muslim immigrants in Norway. I thought England was dealing with multiculturalism deplorably but this guy has modulated it into a Duke Nukem arena.

[Hershey's Kisses]

I saw it this morning and I am soo upset about this...why target the kids at a camp, they were innocent victims in all of this..I understand the bomb was at the Prime Minister's office or something and that makes sense as a political target, but those kids did not deserve any of this...I'm praying for the victims, survivors and all the families involved.

Agreed . children don't deserve that . This is heartbreaking .

[blackout123123]

Oh my, this sickens me. All those innocent lives didn't deserve to suffer like this. I feel terrible for all those victims. =(

[Kahn]

It's pretty sad the Amy Winehouse thread has more replies than this. My condolences to all those hurt.

[ShyGuyInChicago]

It's pretty sad the Amy Winehouse thread has more replies than this. My condolences to all those hurt.

Maybe people want to focus on amy Winehouse because this story is more heart-breaking and difficult to think about.

[Fiction]

It's pretty sad the Amy Winehouse thread has more replies than this. My condolences to all those hurt.

Agreed.

[Harlequin]

terrorism.... such a misused tactic...it will only get worse as technology increases.

My condolences to friends and family to those affected by this disaster.

Ready for a little wtf? Norway of all places....why? i do not understand....then again destruction only makes sense in the eyes of the beholder.

[deadpie]

Dammit Varg, why can't you just stick to the fuckin' Churches?

[Magus]

Ready for a little wtf? Norway of all places....why? i do not understand....then again destruction only makes sense in the eyes of the beholder.I found out that the perpetrator is a Christian fundamentalist, not a Muslim. Good thing. Why would anyone attack Norway?

[Azunite]

I found out that the perpetrator is a Christian fundamentalist, not a Muslim. Good thing. Why would anyone attack Norway?

Because Norway is super rich and very peaceful.

[Jimmy Page]

Good question,it will probably be answered tomorrow when he will explain his action,only thing that is said by police from the interrogations yesterday is that he thinks what he did was horrible,but absolutely necessary.He also compares him self to a Templar,and describes himself as a laid-back and tolerant guy.Yeah right.

[deadpie]

Because Norway is super rich and very peaceful.

http://news.figment.cc/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/gaahl-sotra.jpg

NORWAY IS KVLT BLACK METAL LAND WE KILL GOATS AND BURN CHURCHES FUCK WE HARDCORE REBELS 4 LYFEEEEEEEE

[Continuum]

I found out that the perpetrator is a Christian fundamentalist, not a Muslim. Good thing. Why would anyone attack Norway?

It's probably because Norway is oh-so-Liberal and secular. It isn't surprising that a Fundamentalist had done it. As with what Deadpie had said:


NORWAY IS KVLT BLACK METAL LAND WE KILL GOATS AND BURN CHURCHES FUCK WE HARDCORE REBELS 4 LYFEEEEEEEE

[Triceratops]

This whole thing is just horrible and unbelievable, and wow some fucking religious person that psychofuck is. My best wishes go out to all the victims and families involved.

[UnknownError]

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Like his prison?

[Azunite]

The guy reached a 92 kill streak, wish he had tactical nuke.

[LifeisLife]

I do get that he would dislike a certain political party, but what I don't get is that he would go around killing people just because of his hatred for that party. Just try to send a complaint to about/to that party or get other people that dislike it to protest against it, but don't kill innocent people.

[Hershey's Kisses]

To me , it doesnt matter why he killed those people , or why killed in Norway . It's absolutely heartbreaking and hard to even fathom a man killing so many innocent children . My prayers and condolences to the Norwegians . 21 years is not enough time for a horrible crime like this . Very , very upsetting . I will be praying for these people affected by this horrific event . Rest in peace .

[Jess]

21 years? just 21 years??????

my condolences are with the victims' families and friends ):

[Angel Androgynous]

Dammit Varg, why can't you just stick to the fuckin' Churches?

Are you talking about the band Mayhem?


Either way, I was so shocked to hear that that happened! :c
21 years is not worth over 90 human lives! Give him life in prison at least!
RIP victims of this horrible incident. :c

[RoseyCadaver]

It's very sickening how some one could do so much horror as in killing innocent people.I wonder if there is still hope sometimes.

[Harlequin]

well....you have to think of something. He definitively got his point across.

[RoseyCadaver]

well....you have to think of something. He definitively got his point across.

That's just the thing.He didn't get his point across.He is know just viewed as that psycho who killed 87 innocent people,some of which are children.

[Hershey's Kisses]

There is no point of killing innocent children . End of story.

[Awesome]

Well get this. No joke the max he can get in prison is 21 years.

[avenged7xrocks007]

wow that's so messed up...

[TheMatrix]

wow that's so messed up...
I know, right?

[Jimmy Page]

Correction of what i said earlier,he can get more, the max is 21 years but every 5th year they can make his sentence longer,so he can technically be sentenced to life in prison.

[LifeisLife]

Either way, I was so shocked to hear that that happened! :c
21 years is not worth over 90 human lives! Give him life in prison at least!
RIP victims of this horrible incident. :c

I heard on the news that that's Norway's highest punishment... :l

[butty_92]

21 years or the equivalent of 82 days per crime is a ridiculous sentence for a mass murderer, especially if you consider the sentence in the UK is near as much for one murder. The crimes were the work of a well educated person who had right wing and extremist views towards Islam. The people he shot were selected and Norway, Europe and all other western democracies that encourage mulitculturalism are clearly at threat.

This guy needs to be dealt with in a humane way to send the message out that people in democratic socities are in the right and that violence, no matter how evil the person is will not be tolerated. It will then hopefully in the process combat international terroism and the threat of an increase in these extreme right wing political groups, clearly driven by delusional ideologies.

[PetaByte]

This is unreal that anyone could do something like this,and believe that what they did was the right thing to do.A friend of mine was one of the 84 people that died on Utøya :(,he did not shoot all of them,at least 30 of them drowned trying to swim to the mainland.What i find a little bit irritating is that the man that did it gets maximum 21 years because that's the highest time u get sentenced to.But lets not focus on that,focus on the families that are affected by this tragedy,not the man that did it,it is what he wants.

Altho I'm late to finding this thread, I feel with you. I also lost a good friend :(
And you're wrong. 21 years is the max prison sentence, but the Norwegian laws also have "forvaring" (I don't know the exact English word), which basically means that after 21 years in prison, the court can grant him release or another 21 years... and that can go on forever. So, yes, it IS a life sentence. If he gets released, then I will be outside with a shotgun to kidnap him and torture him for the rest of his life, just like I assume the entire Norwegian people will do to him as well. Gruesome act that he deserves to be punished for -.- :(

[Maverick]

Goes to show how tragic gun control laws can be when law abiding people can't protect themselves. Guarenteed if someone on that island had a gun he wouldn't have taken out as many people. Those strict laws didn't protect those 80-90 something people.

[DoctorWho]

Accutally they found 90 and I know its terribal

[butty_92]

I was reading an opinion article in the comment section of The Times. Norway are very lenient with criminals in terms of sentencing and the way they are treated in prison. Crime rates are amongst the lowest in the world and re-offending rates are also very low. There seems to be no anger shown by the Norwegians, no calls for death sentences, just a sense of overwhelming grief.

The way the Norwegians have acted should be applauded because you don't get reactions like that towards mass murderers in this country, the is he mental or insane (when actually this man isn't insane, he knew exactly what he was doing and it was just a cold, calculated murder from a clever but evil man rather like with Hilter) comments come out or he should be sentenced to death. We could learn a lot from Norway.

[Sith Lord 13]

Goes to show how tragic gun control laws can be when law abiding people can't protect themselves. Guarenteed if someone on that island had a gun he wouldn't have taken out as many people. Those strict laws didn't protect those 80-90 something people.

Agreed. Norway has no concealed carry laws, so he knew he was safe. A concealed carry law could have prevented this whole thing just by scaring him out of it.

[Jimmy Page]

On the topic of guns,im personaly against laws like that,but i think that he police should get better guns than they already have.that alone could have scared him from it,but i doubt it,he would probably have done it no matter what.

[CantLiveWithoutYou]

Just got home from being a camp councilor this week and then getting ready to go back on Sunday, this really mankes me feel uneasy going back.

Yes because Ohio is known for its copycat bombers at their small day camps in the middle of nowhere.

[SosbanFach]

I cannot begin to comprehend such a sickening crime. The man deserves to rot in prison; he won't be missed by the world. As for 'why in Norway?' the man was Norwegian and unhappy with where his country was going, for example he was against immigration, and any ethnic group except white people. He also disliked Muslims and Jews.

[Love.Hate]

I just think its sick. And so unfair. People like him shouldnt exsist in this world, the hardest thing about this is the actual people he killed.. majority of them teenagers, picked the vunerable people. What an evil man. I hope he never see's daylight ever again.

[Sith Lord 13]

Yes because Ohio is known for its copycat bombers at their small day camps in the middle of nowhere.

And Norway is? :what:

[DoctorWho]

And the funny thing is he docent have death penalty he gets out in 14 years wtf

[disassociation2016]

Very unsettling. Makes me want to carry a handgun for self-defense.

[Sith Lord 13]

Very unsettling. Makes me want to carry a handgun for self-defense.

If more people did that the world would be a lot safer.

[Continuum]

If more people did that the world would be a lot safer.

Only for self-defense, that is. If only more people understood the terms of carrying dangerous objects in public.

[iPancake]

this is sad... who would do this to Norway?