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ShyGuyInChicago
July 18th, 2011, 07:47 PM
Please respond to what he Supreme Court said when they found executing a juvenile to be unconstitutional in the Roper v. Simmons Case

This is what the Supreme Court said in the Roper v. Simmons case that made executing a person under age 18 unconstitutional

"First, lack of maturity and an underdeveloped sense of responsibility are found in youth more often than in adults and are more understandable among the young. These qualities often result in impetuous and ill-considered actions and decisions…."

"Second, juveniles are more vulnerable or susceptible to negative influences and outside pressures, including peer pressure…."

"Third, the character of a juvenile is not as well formed as that of an adult. The personality traits of juveniles are more transitory, less fixed."

If you believe juveniles should be exucted how old should they bed?

Angel Androgynous
July 18th, 2011, 07:51 PM
No, they should not be eligible for the death penalty (I am against the death penalty all together xD) but also because a minor's brain is not fully developed before they reach a certain stage. I mean don't you ever look back and think: Hmm what I did in the past was stupid! And that happens multiple times! Also, if a minor cannot drink, smoke, consent, or vote, then they should not be eligible for the death penalty either!

Jess
July 18th, 2011, 07:55 PM
No way. I am also against the death penalty, so obviously I would be against this.

Iris
July 18th, 2011, 08:34 PM
The Supreme Court is right-someone underage can not be expected to make the same decisions an adult can.
For more information check out this link:
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/health-matters/201006/the-teenagers-brain

Timmy93
July 18th, 2011, 09:11 PM
I am against the death penelty 10000 percent but I think they should be eligible if I had to choose. I believer that age nor gender should matter or change the fact of a crime. If a chile say 14 killed his parents he should do life but if it was way gruesomer then ys lt him die if he did the crime. I know it sounds bad but tough shit shoulda never did the crime.

RoseyCadaver
July 18th, 2011, 09:29 PM
I am against the death penelty 10000 percent but I think they should be eligible if I had to choose. I believer that age nor gender should matter or change the fact of a crime. If a chile say 14 killed his parents he should do life but if it was way gruesomer then ys lt him die if he did the crime. I know it sounds bad but tough shit shoulda never did the crime.

1.What?2.If you were against it 10000% you wouldn't say "but I think they should be eligible if I had to choose" no matter what.3.Murder is murder,no matter how gruesome it is or isn't.It's still murder.Making it dirtier or cleaner doesn't mean shit when someone is killed.

No, a child shouldn't be eligible for the death penalty.That being said,I also believe an adult should be eligible be either.

Tango
July 19th, 2011, 01:36 AM
Well I don't think there should be a death penalty, just life in prison because that sounds much worse. (For adults.)

For kids, I don't think there should be one either. They usually don't realize the decisions they are making and are affected by peer pressure.

Amnesiac
July 19th, 2011, 02:13 AM
Nobody should be eligible for the death penalty.

Schizothemia
July 19th, 2011, 03:13 AM
I am against the death penelty 10000 percent but I think they should be eligible if I had to choose. I believer that age nor gender should matter or change the fact of a crime. If a chile say 14 killed his parents he should do life but if it was way gruesomer then ys lt him die if he did the crime. I know it sounds bad but tough shit shoulda never did the crime.

The nature of the killing doesn't change the fact that a killing occurred. In the end it doesn't change anything, a life was lost.

That being said, no one should ever be eligible for the death penalty. It doesn't make sense to me. Basically it's killing someone to show that killing someone is wrong. I'm not a fan of the state being a hired assassin on my tax dollar. Not when that money can be used elsewhere.

Genghis Khan
July 19th, 2011, 07:24 AM
Should anyone be eligible for the death penalty?

zuluman78
July 19th, 2011, 09:35 AM
I'm on the hedge with this. although the death penalty does not solve anything itself but it does provide fear to other criminals who know it could happen to them. Most criminals are not afraid of jail, and jail today is like a hotel. The death penalty warns people of the consequences of crime and puts fear in their hearts so they do not commit crime.

Jess
July 19th, 2011, 10:18 AM
^
You have a point. BUT:

the UK doesn't have the death penalty. Crime rates are lower.

DerBear
July 19th, 2011, 10:40 AM
i think yes from aged 14 and up by then they should know right from wrong

Timmy93
July 19th, 2011, 11:46 AM
The nature of the killing doesn't change the fact that a killing occurred. In the end it doesn't change anything, a life was lost.

That being said, no one should ever be eligible for the death penalty. It doesn't make sense to me. Basically it's killing someone to show that killing someone is wrong. I'm not a fan of the state being a hired assassin on my tax dollar. Not when that money can be used elsewhere.

oh i agree with you but not everybody thinks that way so if we had like a choice of picking and no death penelty wasn't an option i would have to say kids should be elgible. thats it

Genghis Khan
July 19th, 2011, 11:51 AM
i think yes from aged 14 and up by then they should know right from wrong

What if the person is amoral [regardless of how old or young they are]?

Ben Michael
July 19th, 2011, 02:14 PM
I don't think a minor should be executed EVER no matter what. If that ever happens I will riot

UnknownError
July 19th, 2011, 02:33 PM
The "minor" age thing should be moved down to 16 foar everything except drinking and smoking. Imo anyway.

And meh, Im not expressing my opinion on the death penalty because it changes all the time.

disassociation2016
July 19th, 2011, 02:38 PM
I really hate to hear when adults expect a young individual to be capable of making decisions that could affect that child's life. While some do devlop early it's just not fair to let them assume the role of an adult.

TheMatrix
July 19th, 2011, 04:46 PM
No. No way. I do a lot of stupid things in my life, and I almost always look back and say "that was stupid".
I suppose they should serve life in prison(or a good long time anyway), but not the death penalty.

KylieEatWorld
July 20th, 2011, 08:00 PM
Pretty much gonna be mainstream here and say no. The death penalty should be gotten rid of all together.

User Deleted
July 26th, 2011, 02:06 AM
No, I am against the death penalty. The only time I think it should be allowed is if someone is given life sentence they should be allowed to say I want death penalty or vice versa. No killing people who don't want to die, and no killing if they have potential to benefit society. To put it simply, almost nobody wants to die so no death penalty... however for those exceptions we can give the option of the death penalty.

louisgray
July 26th, 2011, 03:04 AM
^^^^ some people would rather die than be locked up all of their life without release

Sebastian Michaelis
July 26th, 2011, 06:02 AM
Personally, I disapprove of the "Death Penalty" mostly because of that old saying, "Two wrongs don't make a right." We don't live under Hammurabi's law. Who are we to decide who lives and dies? It just shows how twisted the human race has become. For example the Casey Anthony trial. People flocked to see a court hearing hoping they would find her guilty and put her to death only because they didn't have anything better to do. A women's life was hanging in the balance and they sat back and watched as if it was a TNT drama series. Were they there, did they not see all the holes in the prosecutions case? And afterwards they still wanted her dead. Wasn't one dead girl enough? People just disgust me. Personally I'd let them rot in prison thinking of their crimes, having to deal with the guilt would be enough. Death is cruel and unusual punishment.

Travis Is Losing It
July 27th, 2011, 08:52 AM
I myself am against the death penelty all together. I took a law and you class my senior year and it was the most interesting class i have ever taken. The teacher was a blast too cause he accepted all debate on it (including how much language we used too lol) he would debate back and it was just so good. But alot of the death penalty forms to me seem inhumain. My main concern with them would be the hanging way. If the rope isn't long enough they could hang there for quiet a while causing excruciating pain. If the rope is to long (by even a few inches) can cause there head to pop off (has actually happened) and if that happens there is no open casket.

Some convicted killers end up being innocent and found innocent days after there death. It may not be many but if they had life in prison which is for what I agree on then they would be released.

Any convicted killer should be locked away in a solitary position where they could not kill someone else like in prisons where the opportunity is present for them.

Death penelty for children though based upon that should be the same for children or adults.

Those are my views