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Austin1
July 17th, 2011, 04:39 PM
When I get the chance I really want to try smoking weed. There's really nothing wrong with it. It's not addicting and you can smoke as much as you want and you won't die. I really want to do it. I would like to know some reason on why I shouldn't?
skater94
July 17th, 2011, 05:19 PM
When I get the chance I really want to try smoking weed. There's really nothing wrong with it. It's not addicting and you can smoke as much as you want and you won't die. I really want to do it. I would like to know some reason on why I shouldn't?
First of all, smoking weed for uses of recreation is illegal. Weed is addicting, and you will get cancer from prolonged use. Also, there are also studies that prove marijuana as a killer of brain cells. As it may not necessarily be bad for you if you smoke a joint, you have to realize the possible repercussions of the drug.
PerpetualImperfexion
July 17th, 2011, 06:13 PM
First of all, smoking weed for uses of recreation is illegal. Weed is addicting, and you will get cancer from prolonged use. Also, there are also studies that prove marijuana as a killer of brain cells. As it may not necessarily be bad for you if you smoke a joint, you have to realize the possible repercussions of the drug.
You are full of bull shit. Weed is completely harmless. It does not cause brain damage, lung cancer, or lower your IQ. You would have to smoke 4000 pounds of it in 15 minutes to kill yourself. It is not a gateway drug, and it doesn't form a physical addiction like cigarettes. Yes it is illegal, so don't take it to school, do it in public, or tell anyone you can't trust. I am not promoting it simply keeping you from being falsely educated about it.
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=101849
unixmitosis
July 17th, 2011, 07:24 PM
I've been in your shoes and I thought it was completely harmless. The largest danger you face from it (chemically speaking) is if it is laced with anything else. Although this often a rare or uncommon event, I had an acquaintance of mine sent to the hospital when something she smoked had speed in it (Which is idiotic since it is wasted). Nonetheless, she had a heart issue and that's what sent her to the ER in the first place.
Secondly and definitely not least is the situations you are more apt to get into if you surround yourself with the types that make a living from drug dealing or those who smoke weed but are associated with harder drugs. From a personal experience, a friend of mine and I were smoking and it turns out he owed some money to the local dealer. I was completely new to smoking weed and relied on him to acquire it.
It goes without saying, the dealer found him and 'us' since I was with him and decided to brandish a weapon (a .22 pistol if I remember correctly) and we both became lighter to the tune of one wallet each. Seriously scary situation (and def. not the first and last time a gun was pulled out because of drugs).
As you can see the dangers don't necessarily lie in weed itself, but in the things it can be laced with or the people associated with it.
It is not a gateway drug
That's a seriously debatable point. I could show you tons of statistics that imply the connection correlates positively with it being a gateway.
PerpetualImperfexion
July 18th, 2011, 12:31 AM
I've been in your shoes and I thought it was completely harmless. The largest danger you face from it (chemically speaking) is if it is laced with anything else. Although this often a rare or uncommon event, I had an acquaintance of mine sent to the hospital when something she smoked had speed in it (Which is idiotic since it is wasted). Nonetheless, she had a heart issue and that's what sent her to the ER in the first place.
Secondly and definitely not least is the situations you are more apt to get into if you surround yourself with the types that make a living from drug dealing or those who smoke weed but are associated with harder drugs. From a personal experience, a friend of mine and I were smoking and it turns out he owed some money to the local dealer. I was completely new to smoking weed and relied on him to acquire it.
It goes without saying, the dealer found him and 'us' since I was with him and decided to brandish a weapon (a .22 pistol if I remember correctly) and we both became lighter to the tune of one wallet each. Seriously scary situation (and def. not the first and last time a gun was pulled out because of drugs).
As you can see the dangers don't necessarily lie in weed itself, but in the things it can be laced with or the people associated with it.
That's a seriously debatable point. I could show you tons of statistics that imply the connection correlates positively with it being a gateway.
Its really a shame you're banned I would like to see those stats.
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Tango
July 18th, 2011, 12:40 AM
You shouldn't because it's illegal. That's about it.
Doing it once is not going to kill you, you can smoke it once and not get addicted. The smoke you inhale is bad for your lungs, but smoking weed is not nearly as bad as smoking cigarettes.
I have never smoked it but I have friends who have/do smoke it. They say the high is the addicting part, and I know people who tried other things because the high from weed isn't enough after a while. But those people smoked it a lot.
I don't think it's bad as long as you don't do so much that it effects your life (social, academic, etc.) Don't do it before or during school, don't do it in public, don't tell people you don't trust.
Like I said I don't have person experience with it just know of people who do. I think it's ok to try a few times. (Not encouraging you to do it.)
deadzone
July 18th, 2011, 01:04 AM
doing something once just to try it is ok but if you continued on useing it you will lose a lot of friends and people will start judging you, as i know many of friends that do it they use to be pop but then they are now known as the drug heads, but i have nothing against doing something once to try but not all the time
I have a friend that smokes it at school and she never use to into she started trying it, she said it was like the only thing that she enjoyed now
skater94
July 18th, 2011, 01:23 AM
You are full of bull shit. Weed is completely harmless. It does not cause brain damage, lung cancer, or lower your IQ. You would have to smoke 4000 pounds of it in 15 minutes to kill yourself. It is not a gateway drug, and it doesn't form a physical addiction like cigarettes. Yes it is illegal, so don't take it to school, do it in public, or tell anyone you can't trust. I am not promoting it simply keeping you from being falsely educated about it.
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=101849
That article in the thread seems to promoting weed by glorifying it. I never said weed kills, and I never told the OP to not smoke weed. In fact, I'm not even anti-weed. I really don't think it's that bad. There are research results that support both sides of the argument.
I've seen my best friend went from smoking weed to a wreck. My friend started abusing it. Obviously, he's one of those rare cases.
http://www.drugabuse.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html
Whether it's a gateway drug is still debatable. You are not wrong, but you don't need to be a pro-weed fanatic and accuse me of being "full of bullshit".
Austin1
July 18th, 2011, 12:41 PM
That's true it's not addicting and I'm only going to try it once or twice and the only real thing I am worried about is if my parents find out
TrAnSMaN09
July 18th, 2011, 12:46 PM
I don't think you shouldn't Just as long as when you DO, your around people that are going to take care of you
PerpetualImperfexion
July 18th, 2011, 02:38 PM
That's true it's not addicting and I'm only going to try it once or twice and the only real thing I am worried about is if my parents find out
The chances of you being caught if you only do it once or twice is very unlikely compared to someone who does it on a regular basis.
SirRawrsalot
July 18th, 2011, 04:03 PM
Inhaling practically any smoke is bad for your lungs. Also, using resources like a website devoted to reforming marijuana laws is no place to get your information. I can go ask a big tobacco company PR employee if they're bad and he'll say no.
In short, if you smoke a joint once, will it kill you or have any repercussions? No, unless you get caught.
If you do it a few times a week for a few years will it kill you? It definitely won't make you live longer, I think we can all agree on that.
I'm not condoning the use of marijuana, personally I think it's pretty boring and dull. It takes your drive away.
Hailstorm
July 19th, 2011, 02:13 AM
thier is nothing bad about it i just wouldent touch anything thats laced for ur first time but besides that u just fell like ur on happy gas lol and you can also eat it for a body high .
Cap'nCrunch
July 21st, 2011, 11:08 PM
When I get the chance I really want to try smoking weed. There's really nothing wrong with it. It's not addicting and you can smoke as much as you want and you won't die. I really want to do it. I would like to know some reason on why I shouldn't?
Because it is habit-forming and most certainly addictive. At one point I smoked several times a day. When I didn't smoke, I would get incredibly depressed. Even suicidal. Do not believe for a second that it is not a 'drug' or that it is harmless. Even drugs like Dramamine have the potential to be abused. Plus, weed isn't great. It's incredibly boring. Sobriety is actually better. Also, I assume you're asking because you're looking for support to try it and not any discouragement. Good luck either way.
Donkey
July 23rd, 2011, 08:52 AM
When it comes to cannabis, there are mostly two types of people. Those who believe that cannabis is very harmful, as much as heroin or crack but less so than alcohol, and those who believe that cannabis is completely harmless. Both are ill-informed and completely wrong. I'm a cannabis smoker, and I have no problems with people doing the drug as long as they realise there IS a potential risk; no drug is completely harmless, not ibuprofen, paracetamol, caffeine or otherwise.
Cannabis is linked to psychosis and schizophrenia in those with a predisposition to mental illness, however there is less of a link with cannabis than there is with heavy alcohol consumption. Cannabis damages the lungs as does any smoking; this can be prevented by vapourising or eating. Cannabis will fuck your brain up after prolonged use, and in many people it results in negative feelings of anxiety, paranoia and depression. Cannabis stays around in the body for a fair bit longer than water-soluble drugs like alcohol as it is fat-soluble; that means any negative effects are left to rot in the brain for a while and can leave you feeling a little hazey.
With all that said, the drug is no where near as physically or psychologically harmful as alcohol and the biggest risk is getting arrested.
Truth
July 24th, 2011, 01:51 AM
There's no reason for you to not try it.
Travis Is Losing It
July 24th, 2011, 07:53 AM
You are full of bull shit. Weed is completely harmless. It does not cause brain damage, lung cancer, or lower your IQ. You would have to smoke 4000 pounds of it in 15 minutes to kill yourself. It is not a gateway drug, and it doesn't form a physical addiction like cigarettes. Yes it is illegal, so don't take it to school, do it in public, or tell anyone you can't trust. I am not promoting it simply keeping you from being falsely educated about it.
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=101849
Weed is a gateway drug. Every drug can lead to others. I know considering I went from weed to pills to herion and meth and barely survived i know. You are right about everything else. But either way its not harmful but its not something you should try. It can get you into some pretty bad situations.
Atonement
July 24th, 2011, 09:13 AM
Okay, reasons not to do it:
1. Illegal: Clearly it's illegal to do, so if you have anything to lose, don't bother with it.
2. Parents: I don't know how your parents would react if they found out. I would consider who you'd be doing it with, how small your town is etc. to figure if they'd find out.
3. The sheer fact that you doubt: Friends ask me sometimes, "Should I drink?" or something similar and I always say, "No." The fact that you need to ask me proves that there is doubt in your head about the action which you shouldn't do something you aren't comfortable with. Plus, "Why shouldn't I?" is asking for someone to talk you out of it, so you already know your own answer.
anonymous53
July 24th, 2011, 02:47 PM
When I get the chance I really want to try smoking weed. There's really nothing wrong with it. It's not addicting and you can smoke as much as you want and you won't die. I really want to do it. I would like to know some reason on why I shouldn't?
It's not Completely harmless.
It does have its negative affects, such as being illegal (I'm against it being illegal)
Also look at it this way, anything you light on fire, stick in your mouth and suck in the smoke from will have a few negative affects on your body.
Those are the only two I really see.
Little35
July 24th, 2011, 06:51 PM
I am acually in the same place as you, The main problem is the fact that its illegal, it is not really a gateway drug, But It can still get you in trouble, You have to think if your really willing to go through the trouble of buying and smoking weed, and potentaly getting in trouble. I recemend doing your own research and looking at alot of diffrent places, not just from the goverment.
sonnym
July 30th, 2011, 04:21 PM
First of all, smoking weed for uses of recreation is illegal. Weed is addicting, and you will get cancer from prolonged use. Also, there are also studies that prove marijuana as a killer of brain cells. As it may not necessarily be bad for you if you smoke a joint, you have to realize the possible repercussions of the drug.
Your fucking retarded... Weed is NOT addictive... I can't say it doesn't cause cancer.. but everything these days causes cancer..... your very unaware of what marijuana is.. and can do.. Please don't spread shit like this.. thanks.. but as for you wanting to smoke.. its totally up to you it won't kill you .. thats for sure..
LongShot157
August 3rd, 2011, 12:55 PM
You are full of bull shit. Weed is completely harmless. It does not cause brain damage, lung cancer, or lower your IQ. You would have to smoke 4000 pounds of it in 15 minutes to kill yourself. It is not a gateway drug, and it doesn't form a physical addiction like cigarettes. Yes it is illegal, so don't take it to school, do it in public, or tell anyone you can't trust. I am not promoting it simply keeping you from being falsely educated about it.
http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=101849
are you kidding me i never thought pot was a gateway drug either, i smoked pot for almost 3 years then through my pot smoking friends i got into other stuff like heroin, meth, pcp. and MUCH MUCH more. though you are right in the fact that it is harmless, and its IMPOSSIBLE to od on it, literally. The amount you need to over dose and die, isnt 4000 pounds but i know for a fact that before you could over dose you would pass out from being tired.
aperson444
August 3rd, 2011, 01:07 PM
The gateway effect is debatable. If weed is a gateway drug, then caffeine use could lead to amphetamines, milk could lead to alcohol and chocolate could lead to heroin. Weed is a universal drug. Junkies smoke it and college professors smoke it.
It cannot cause cancer, as it kills cancer cells (so any sort of tumor arising from irritants like benzo[a]pyrene could be combated by the cannabinoids in the plant). It is not physically addictive, but it can be psychologically addictive if you abuse it (like any other susbtance). The psychosis risk is minimal but present. To this date, no neurochemical link between psychosis and cannabis has been demonstrated and in fact, certain components of the plant were used to TREAT psychosis (cannabidiol). One can mitigate lung irritation by using a vaporizer or a device that brings in cooler, thicker smoke.
As for the addiction issue, I feel that it really depends on your personality and your own physiology. I was heavily addicted to caffeine for some time and I would actually steal money to get energy drinks. I would snort and smoke caffeine (both coffee and crystalline caffeine) for the almighty rush. Nevertheless, 98% of the population doesn't face my issue with caffeine. The same applies for weed. Just use caution when you try it and for NO REASON should you ever use it as a crutch. That's when you get dependent and lose your motivation.
itzBJ_James69
September 19th, 2011, 06:55 PM
You waste your money on it, makes you lazy, but most of all its illeagal! but if you dont get caught doing it then I say do i have done it and its great in my eyes:)
thecanjump
September 19th, 2011, 11:03 PM
Your fucking retarded... Weed is NOT addictive... I can't say it doesn't cause cancer.. but everything these days causes cancer..... your very unaware of what marijuana is.. and can do.. Please don't spread shit like this.. thanks.. but as for you wanting to smoke.. its totally up to you it won't kill you .. thats for sure..
Weed doesn't have a physical addiction but an emotional one. Sure some people can just put it down (like myself) but others just have an emotional need for it. (not saying everyone does)
Rawrgasm
September 21st, 2011, 06:26 AM
as long as you dont get addicted it can be okay, when i get to the stage im sure ill try it, because i think i wont be addicted..
HAWAiiAN 808
September 21st, 2011, 02:46 PM
Here are some points i got for you.
-Anybody who says you cannot get addicted to weed is either full of shit, or probably never smoked before, smoked shitty weed, or barely smoked.
-You get lazy.
-Weed is hella expensive.
-Smoking a lot will eventually leave you out of breathe if you try doing stuff like running.
-Weed laced with other drugs.
-You could get robbed if you pick up from a dealer, friend or not.
-Yes, it can be a gateway drug if you depend on drugs too much.
aperson444
September 21st, 2011, 10:31 PM
You can't physically get addicted. Even caffeine is more physically addictive (actually caffeine is about as addictive as nasal cocaine according to some studies). It tends to be the other way around. If you smoke really bad weed, you tend to overshoot your doses. The best thing you can do is grow your own weed and invest in a vaporizer. If you can't grow, find a grower you can buy direct from. That eliminates a lot of the issues involved with weed.
HAWAiiAN 808
September 22nd, 2011, 03:23 AM
You can't physically get addicted. Even caffeine is more physically addictive (actually caffeine is about as addictive as nasal cocaine according to some studies). It tends to be the other way around. If you smoke really bad weed, you tend to overshoot your doses. The best thing you can do is grow your own weed and invest in a vaporizer. If you can't grow, find a grower you can buy direct from. That eliminates a lot of the issues involved with weed.
No flame intended, but i have to beg to differ on your first 2 sentences. You said you cant get physically addicted, but then you followed up with a sentence stating that caffeine is "more" physically addictive then weed. So you basically said that weed is addictive, but not as addictive as caffeine. Sorry if this confused you and other people, but i tend to analyze stuff i read very close and think about it pretty hard. But back to the topic, i would have to say that you can obviously get mentally addicted, but no one can drop the argument on "can you get physically addicted".
Me being a former hard-user/addict to weed, i can say i was both mentally and physically dependent on weed. Some of my physical dependencies on weed was that if i tried to go to sleep sober, it would either take me a few hours to finally drift off to sleep, or i would not sleep until i went and smoked and my body would finally be in a neutral state to go to sleep. Another physical dependency that i started to notice that weed was physically addictive was that some days, i literally felt like i had to smoke and get high just to start my day, or else my body would feel tight and my legs would start to feel really heavy.
Eclipsical
September 22nd, 2011, 08:18 PM
Weed just makes you kind of a d-bag...I'm not even talking about while high.
pot heads just have this smug air of self-importance and entitlement and "everyone is against me" cuz I smoke..
Dude, I don't give a crap that you smoke up...I'm just tired of hearing about it!
huginnmuninn
September 22nd, 2011, 08:35 PM
When I get the chance I really want to try smoking weed. There's really nothing wrong with it. It's not addicting and you can smoke as much as you want and you won't die. I really want to do it. I would like to know some reason on why I shouldn't?
breathing any sort of smoke directly into your lungs is bad for them and it can cause cancer. Anything can become addictive if you use it for a prolonged period of time. the reason there is said to be less of a chance of getting cancer from smoking weed than with smoking cigarettes is because a lot of people smoke a pack or more a day of cigarettes and most people who smoke weed dont smoke near that amount. it is a gateway drug because your body will become accustome to the halluciinogenic properties of weed and it will take more and more to get the same effects so people will just switch to a different drug to get higher easier and your body will become dependent on the effects of the weed just to feel normal.
ImCoolBeans
September 24th, 2011, 11:24 AM
I would say don't do it. Speaking from experience it kills all of your ambition, it leads to more and worse substances and it's overall just not worth it in the end.
aperson444
September 25th, 2011, 01:08 PM
No flame intended, but i have to beg to differ on your first 2 sentences. You said you cant get physically addicted, but then you followed up with a sentence stating that caffeine is "more" physically addictive then weed. So you basically said that weed is addictive, but not as addictive as caffeine. Sorry if this confused you and other people, but i tend to analyze stuff i read very close and think about it pretty hard. But back to the topic, i would have to say that you can obviously get mentally addicted, but no one can drop the argument on "can you get physically addicted".
Me being a former hard-user/addict to weed, i can say i was both mentally and physically dependent on weed. Some of my physical dependencies on weed was that if i tried to go to sleep sober, it would either take me a few hours to finally drift off to sleep, or i would not sleep until i went and smoked and my body would finally be in a neutral state to go to sleep. Another physical dependency that i started to notice that weed was physically addictive was that some days, i literally felt like i had to smoke and get high just to start my day, or else my body would feel tight and my legs would start to feel really heavy.
Caffeine addiction involves a decrease in adenosine receptors due to the antagonism of caffeine to such receptors. Cannabinoid receptors are already so abundant and so concentrated that you don't see the same effect. Plus cannabinoids are agonists, not antagonists. Adenosine controls a large variety of systems including the cardiovascular (vasodilation of vessels, causing headaches in withdrawal) and effects on the brain (adenosine activity reduces dopamine, norepinephrine and serotonin, thus causing depression and anxiety). Cannabinoid "withdrawal" seems to be much more benign compared to caffeine, which in theory is about as addictive as cocaine. In fact, many heroin and cocaine users report abnormalities in the adenosine system. That is the definition of physical addiction. Psychological addiction may have roots in physiological structures, but it is largely based on your attitude towards the substance. To this date I have seen no one severely addicted to marijuana. I have seen people with insane tolerance and low funds (thereby making a very bad situation where the guy needs a lot of weed but has no money because of parental or economic issues).
Cannabis tends to relax muscles, so if you spend more time high than sober, the normal state can feel strange and even distressing. All in all, if you respect the drug (be it heroin or chocolate), you will have a much lower risk of getting addicted.
I have faced severe caffeine addiction. I used to smoke, snort and ingest pure or extracted caffeine otherwise I'd feel run down, tired, suicidal and depressed. I could not stand going through a day without drinking a couple of energy drinks and smoking caffeine (you can smoke it like meth or you can chase it off of foil). It's really, really addictive. The sad thing is that no one really knows if they are addicted to caffeine or not because a large percentage of the population is actively addicted.
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