Log in

View Full Version : The moron who burned the Koran


biboy96
July 15th, 2011, 08:58 AM
I know it's a while since this happened, but what do you think of his actions?

iangillan
July 15th, 2011, 09:29 AM
Further proof that Christians can be assholes same as the Muslim fanatics in NYC.Moronic hatred is the same,just the result is different.

biboy96
July 15th, 2011, 10:22 AM
totally agree with you ;)
The first norwegian female war pilot got her head chopped off because of it....

Magus
July 15th, 2011, 11:47 AM
Fuck the Quran, what? What? Did you know the actual way to dispose the Quran is to pee on it and shoot it?

You can pee on it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kjmy4Rwu00&skipcontrinter=1
You can poop on it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxnOiR2RXzc Of course, censored with that pooping part.

You can do whatever with it. What? It's called Freedom of fucking Speech. Like it or not.

I will Burn the Bible, I will burn the Quran, I will burn the Vedas, I will burn the book of Shadows, I will burn whatever the fuck I want, and express whatever I want.

Religious hate? fuck that. I am fucking devil worshipping blasphemous infidel, what are you going to do about it? Huh? Kill me? Ah! That's your religion, right? To Kill people. Good. :yes:

pisschrist.jpg

What? What?

biboy96
July 15th, 2011, 11:54 AM
First of all, I'm not religious.
Secondly: I get the whole freedom of speech thing, but I also think; when you know that extremists will go mad, why not use your brain.

embers
July 15th, 2011, 11:59 AM
Extremists shouldn't get mad, it's childish.

biboy96
July 15th, 2011, 12:06 PM
-.-

Ok, i'm not supporting the extremists or anything, but when you KNOW the idiots will react the way they will, then why the f*ck do you need to annoy them?(don't mean you as in you, but like... people in general)

embers
July 15th, 2011, 12:08 PM
Ok, i'm not supporting the extremists or anything, but when you KNOW the idiots will react the way they will, then why the f*ck do you need to annoy them?(don't mean you as in you, but like... people in general)

Personally, I wouldn't burn a religion's holy book, but I absolutely hate it when people get worked up about trivial things that shouldn't be noticed. Someone burned your book, doesn't mean you should go on a killing spree. Someone drew your prophet, grow up and deal with it. That's all I'm saying.

biboy96
July 15th, 2011, 12:43 PM
I get your point, but I'm just saying these people have a different perspective than us, and they don't have freedom of speech, so personally, I feel sorry for the sivilians...

Belton21
July 15th, 2011, 01:24 PM
That man wants people to think he's a big time Christian but the bible says, Those who act like the hypocrites,and go in to the streets to pray and preach to be seen by man,verily they have there reward.....For he is truly not a follower of God... Who is he to judge other religions? I am a Christian I stick to it all the way,you don't judge people and there religions,that is for god to do. If you choose to be atheist,Muslim,Buddhist..I dont care because who am I to judge them?? That's how all Christians should think...

iangillan
July 15th, 2011, 01:45 PM
That man wants people to think he's a big time Christian but the bible says, Those who act like the hypocrites,and go in to the streets to pray and preach to be seen by man,verily they have there reward.....For he is truly not a follower of God... Who is he to judge other religions? I am a Christian I stick to it all the way,you don't judge people and there religions,that is for god to do. If you choose to be atheist,Muslim,Buddhist..I dont care because who am I to judge them?? That's how all Christians should think...

I agree,that`s how all believers should think,Christians,Muslim,etc..etc.But hatred is much stronger.Hatred is reason for killing Muslim civilians in Bosnia,10 years ago (`in the name of the Church`),NYC bombers,Koran burners,etc,etc.

Schizothemia
July 15th, 2011, 07:35 PM
As an atheist, I found it kind of funny, in a very nihiliistic way.

Nihilism aside, I don't support the burning of any book. I'm all for freedom of speech, and it's wonderfull and great, especially when one is reminded that freedom of speech is in place to protect the speech that isn't agreed with.

I view books as a symbol of our collective conscious as humanity, and even if the book is antequated, juvenile, hateful. etc, it is a reminder of who we are as a species, and allows us to look where to go in the future as a collective species. However, I feel there are more diplomatic approaches to discourse, even when dealing with any form of extremism. It might be difficult, but simply giving up and destroying such an important and vital symbol of our collective conscious, is just not something I personally support. Much like I wouldn't burn a bible, Smriti, or The Twilight Saga (even if it is the bane of my existence.)

In reality, there is no room for extremism, from any form of foundational belief, we need to be accepting of all of the shades of grey, not just the black and white.

CaliKid24
July 15th, 2011, 07:59 PM
If someone wants to burn one, whats going to stop them? Even if people disagree with him doing it, too bad it's his right. So I support his right to do it, but I don't support what he is doing.

Genghis Khan
July 16th, 2011, 05:14 PM
The moron who burned it is just as much of an asshole as the people who reacted to it.

1. If you're going to disagree with something, or criticize it at least do it constructively or no one's going to take you seriously and you're not changing anyone's mind.

2. It's a fricking book. He's burning PAPER, not God's mumbo jumbo mystical hocus pocus plan, there are about a million different copies of the Qur'an in several languages, if you don't like it, don't watch it or cry over it, suck it up.

Jess
July 16th, 2011, 08:08 PM
2. It's a fricking book. He's burning PAPER, not God's mumbo jumbo mystical hocus pocus plan, there are about a million different copies of the Qur'an in several languages, if you don't like it, don't watch it or cry over it, suck it up.

THIS. Exactly how I feel about it.

HaydenM
July 19th, 2011, 08:01 AM
I'm sorry but you can't say burning a holy book is freedom of speech. He got something like 12 people killed because of it, therefore he is responsible for that.

Genghis Khan
July 19th, 2011, 08:12 AM
I'm sorry but you can't say burning a holy book is freedom of speech.

http://haleykrek.edublogs.org/files/2011/04/Freedom-of-Speech-1lkwni0.jpg

iangillan
July 19th, 2011, 09:26 AM
image (http://haleykrek.edublogs.org/files/2011/04/Freedom-of-Speech-1lkwni0.jpg)

Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and by many state constitutions and state and federal laws, with the exception of obscenity, defamation, incitement to riot, and fighting words,as well as harassment, privileged communications, trade secrets, classified material, copyright, patents, military conduct, commercial speech such as advertising, and time, place and manner restrictions.

Hope4u
July 19th, 2011, 09:37 AM
idiots are idiots no matter what religion, race or ethnic background.

UnknownError
July 19th, 2011, 10:03 AM
Who cares? Would anyone get mad if I burned Twilight or Harry Potter? Nope. Infact Stephanie Meyer and JK Rowling might get a few lulz out of it.

IanNE
July 19th, 2011, 10:05 AM
yea that guys pretty dumb in my opinion

Genghis Khan
July 19th, 2011, 10:43 AM
Freedom of speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution and by many state constitutions and state and federal laws, with the exception of obscenity, defamation, incitement to riot, and fighting words,as well as harassment, privileged communications, trade secrets, classified material, copyright, patents, military conduct, commercial speech such as advertising, and time, place and manner restrictions.

Then they should change the fucking name. I have something on my mind, it is the Qur'an is a pile of shit, if there is this so called freedom of speech/expression it shouldn't restrict me from saying what is on my mind. Similarly if my father died and someone from his office thought he's a twat, he can say whatever the hell comes to his mind.

embers
July 19th, 2011, 11:10 AM
Who cares? Would anyone get mad if I burned Twilight or Harry Potter? Nope. Infact Stephanie Meyer and JK Rowling might get a few lulz out of it.

Bad analogy. Harry Potter and Stephenie Meyer may have fan clubs but their books certainly aren't central to religions.

KylieEatWorld
July 20th, 2011, 09:00 PM
No. Just no. You shouldn't ever burn books. I don't care if your religion says that book is evil. I don't care if you think the religion that made that book is evil. I don't care if that book is the Origin of Species, The Holy Bible, or Twilight. I don't care if your grandmother hated that book and now she's passed on. I don't care if it was your girlfriend's book and you caught her cheating on you. I don't care if the book promotes witchcraft, sex with minors, or killing people. Never ever burn a book.

Books cannot be killed by fire. People die, but books never die. No man and no force can put thought in a concentration camp forever. No man and no force can take from the world the books that embody man's eternal fight against tyranny. In this war, we know, books are weapons.

huginnmuninn
July 21st, 2011, 08:20 PM
dudes an idiot. he should have kept the book and read it and then took it apart piece by piece finding the flaws and inconsistencies and publishing them which would probably more effectively "destroy" the book than burning it.

curtlaw
July 22nd, 2011, 06:22 PM
Well, considering that Terry Jones had allegations that he improperly used church funds from his previous church, he isn't much of an ideal Christian (more of an extremist), to say the least. Tbh, although I'm not a Christian, I still don't think that most Christians are exactly like Terry Jones- as a matter of fact, I was talking to one of my friends, who is also Christian, and we were on such a topic. He utterly condemned Terry Jones, considering he could be compared to those who were responsible for the 9/11 attacks. You see, it's the same with with Muslims, we occasionally consider them as the true cause for 9/11, but as matter of fact, the real people who ARE responsible were the extremists, a group of followers who have branched off from their own religion, and started to make new ideas on how "their religion" should be based on. In Terry Jones' case, he thought of a completely absurd idea, and unfortunately, he had to face the consequences.

Allbutanillusion
July 22nd, 2011, 07:08 PM
That man wants people to think he's a big time Christian but the bible says, Those who act like the hypocrites,and go in to the streets to pray and preach to be seen by man,verily they have there reward.....For he is truly not a follower of God... Who is he to judge other religions? I am a Christian I stick to it all the way,you don't judge people and there religions,that is for god to do. If you choose to be atheist,Muslim,Buddhist..I dont care because who am I to judge them?? That's how all Christians should think...



I agree, I think that was well said.:cool:

iangillan
July 23rd, 2011, 01:07 AM
Well, considering that Terry Jones had allegations that he improperly used church funds from his previous church, he isn't much of an ideal Christian (more of an extremist), to say the least. Tbh, although I'm not a Christian, I still don't think that most Christians are exactly like Terry Jones- as a matter of fact, I was talking to one of my friends, who is also Christian, and we were on such a topic. He utterly condemned Terry Jones, considering he could be compared to those who were responsible for the 9/11 attacks. You see, it's the same with with Muslims, we occasionally consider them the true cause of 9/11, but as a matter of fact, the real people who ARE responsible were the extremists, a group of followers who have branched off from their own religion, and started to make new ideas on how "their religion" should be based on. In Terry Jone's case, he thought of a completely absurd idea, and unfortunately, he had to face the consequences.

Absolutelly agree.
Biggest problem is that we equalize all Muslims with few terrorists (9/11) and all Christians with Terry Jones and couple other fanatics.

Clum
July 23rd, 2011, 03:54 AM
2. It's a fricking book. He's burning PAPER, not God's mumbo jumbo mystical hocus pocus plan, there are about a million different copies of the Qur'an in several languages, if you don't like it, don't watch it or cry over it, suck it up.

precisely

Sporadica
July 25th, 2011, 03:04 PM
"I may not agree with what you have to say but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it." - Voltaire

I think that sums me up perfectly.