Your Party...

[nwshc]

Well im bord so:
What Party do you think you are. Like Republican, Democrate, Independent, ect. :?:

Me, Im more of a Republican :twisted:

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

hahaha i knew it. could you guess what party im in ?

[nwshc]

(scratches head) um... Democrate??

You have to be republican. lol

[nwshc]

And just about everyone else are Democrates. Evil Democrates. :evil:

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

hahahah how in the world did you guess? ya and your right on that last part. i think just about everyone else on this site is democratic except Ekia (maybe?)

[nwshc]

Man, it would be so cool if Mitt Romney became President! Another Prez that Bill O'Reilly could agree with. I looked up Bill O'Reilly on google. Do you know how many hate sites there are against him and the republicans?? They Liberals are all crazy!!

[Whisper]

THIS SITE ISN'T ALL AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holly shit america is a COUNTRY not the entire planet!

[nwshc]

Its Not???

[TheWizard]

lol :)

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

ya i never knew that.... hahahah dude if it makes headlines in america, it makes headlines everywhere else on the planet. :)

[Whisper]

ya i never knew that.... hahahah dude if it makes headlines in america, it makes headlines everywhere else on the planet. :)
Aren't you arrogant
......not really, sum stuff not allot

I barley ever see anything about america in the papers here and were right next door to you.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

plz dont get bent out of shape, i was being facetious :(

[AC.wAkeBoArDin.06]

Im from Massachusetts... does that explain it haha...

Im a Democrat

[DouggyO.o]

im so republican i thing democrats are dumb ass's (no offences to the democrats)

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

yay join the club!!! :)

[maximan]

im so republican i thing democrats are dumb ass's (no offences to the democrats)

You're right. Being openminded is a dumbass way of living.

[Ravenous]

THIS SITE ISN'T ALL AMERICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!

Holly shit america is a COUNTRY not the entire planet!

That is EXACTLY!!! What i keep saying but no'one listens, thank you cody.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

asking what party you are isnt really country specific. feel free to express where you fall on the political compass instead of bashing america...

[Anonymous]

undecided.

[nwshc]

popo, how can you be undecided. Anyone could tell you are a radical Democrat.

[redcar]

terrible the way you only have a two party system over there in the states

[nwshc]

We do have more, but the Democrats and the Republicans are the most "populated" groups. There is the Independents, pink slip party i think and i think there is a green slip or something.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

popo, how can you be undecided. Anyone could tell you are a radical Democrat.

hahahaha so true ;)

[Anonymous]

i dotn side with either, and i dont appreciate being called 'radical democrat" this is supposed to be us stating our party, and i dont go democrat or republican, and i dont rlaly know what, i kinda just go with the flow. nobody on here should be making fun of me for my view on whats happening right nowjust because you think its bs. i have a right to my opinion and yur trying to take that away basically.

[nwshc]

o ya, thats it. Im taking away your right to freedom of speech. :roll:

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

i dotn side with either, and i dont appreciate being called 'radical democrat" this is supposed to be us stating our party, and i dont go democrat or republican, and i dont rlaly know what, i kinda just go with the flow. nobody on here should be making fun of me for my view on whats happening right nowjust because you think its bs. i have a right to my opinion and yur trying to take that away basically.

you have a right to free speech, but not a right to not be criticized for it :)

[Anonymous]

I'm generally Republican. I agree with some Democrat ideals, but not many.

In my opinion, Republicans=People who fought for this countries freedom
Democrats=People who sat down and took the taxes from Britan.


Pretty much. Democrats=carebears. :D

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

no your right, republicans will act on the issues at hand while the dems will sit on their hands and do nothing. they will get us in trouble from inaction

[Φρανκομβριτ]

I'm Green Party! WHOOO!!

[maximan]

no your right, republicans will act on the issues at hand while the dems will sit on their hands and do nothing. they will get us in trouble from inaction

Oh you are so right. The democrats piss of the other countries by not attacking them while the Republicans are soldiers of fortune.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

no your right, republicans will act on the issues at hand while the dems will sit on their hands and do nothing. they will get us in trouble from inaction

Oh you are so right. The democrats piss of the other countries by not attacking them while the Republicans are soldiers of fortune.

ha, i like that. just think for a moment. what if we were right? what if iraq did have a nuke, and for no reason at all decided to kill everyone in new york? can you even imagine all the shit the democrats would be in now?

[maximan]

no your right, republicans will act on the issues at hand while the dems will sit on their hands and do nothing. they will get us in trouble from inaction

Oh you are so right. The democrats piss of the other countries by not attacking them while the Republicans are soldiers of fortune.

ha, i like that. just think for a moment. what if we were right? what if iraq did have a nuke, and for no reason at all decided to kill everyone in new york? can you even imagine all the shit the democrats would be in now?

WTF? Iraq had no plans to attack the US! So we wouldn't get nuked, and guess what, you WERENT right! You have a stupid arguement going on right now...

[Whisper]

OMG people!
fuck it!
Irag was invaded America took over there back water piss country in 2 fuckin weeks
There were no weapons of mass destruction because if there was and years later america the most powerful country on the planet STILL can't find them....well.....thats just embarasing and pathedic to an unimaginable level.
So there is no weapons okay accept it

There is absolutly nothing anyone can do about it now it happened, I think its rather pathedic that theres still car bombs going off all the time, the amount of friendly fire; like the canadians that were murdered in cold blood....If you want me to level with ya I honestly don't care I never knew'em its someone elses husband some other lil kids big daddy that got blown all to hell by a supposedly allied solider not mine.

People die all the time (I know i've barried many)
Countrys fall it happens hell look at the soviet union it colapsed in the early 90's.

Matt I don't care if sum guy takes a nuke and levels New York, Mexico city, hell they can blow B.C and Alberta right off the face of the planet leave nuthin but a huge ass crater uninhabitable due to radioactive fallout which would then cause the the koreans to see an opertunity they could not refuse which would inturn cause the russians, the chinese and the United Kingdom to go to def com 1 which would inevitably lead to a nuclear winter and the death of the entire human race along with everyother living thing on our planet. Because our counrtys are all lead by minipulative, power hungry, greedy, cowardly politicans and trigger happy admirals.

This is us....This is so called "humanity"


........I'm going to bed

[Anonymous]

the only destructive thign we foudn was a huge cannon he was going to shoot israel with.

[nwshc]

popo, if you think that is the only thing that they found, you are a dumb ass.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

dude theyve exploaded so many weapons stockpiles are you insane popo or just oblivious to your world and what happens within it?

[maximan]

dude theyve exploaded so many weapons stockpiles are you insane popo or just oblivious to your world and what happens within it?

Hmm...all the weapons stockpiles they exploded WERE LEGAL! Iraq was ALLOWED TO HAVE THEM! We have weapons stockpiles too!

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

so we do, but it has nothing to do with me proving popo wrong which was the whole purpose of that post, not to debate the legality of weapons

[nwshc]

the only destructive thign we foudn was a huge cannon he was going to shoot israel with.

That is what popo said.
This is what Matt said
dude theyve exploaded so many weapons stockpiles are you insane popo or just oblivious to your world and what happens within it?

It want referring to anything illegal, it was referring to they found a lot more than a cannon.

[maximan]

the only destructive thign we foudn was a huge cannon he was going to shoot israel with.

That is what popo said.
This is what Matt said
dude theyve exploaded so many weapons stockpiles are you insane popo or just oblivious to your world and what happens within it?

It want referring to anything illegal, it was referring to they found a lot more than a cannon.

And so far the only good reason for attacking Iraq you've produced is SADAAM POSED A THREAT!! with no reason or evidence behind it.

[nwshc]

Just argue the war on the other America the terrorist thread. I'm not going to be going back and fourth.

And those posts were not even about he posed a threat. If you look at the context, you will see Matt and me argue against Mike that there was more than just a little cannon found . We were not debating if he was a threat.

[Anonymous]

i can somewhat see being a republican, but like george bush!!!!! he is the most sexist, racist, vicioust, shalloiwest, stupidest person on earth! if president were between britney spears and george bush, i would vote britney!!!

[Anonymous]

I'm Republican all the way...even though we did or do have some crappy presidents I'm still Republican all the way! (no offense to the Democrats dun need to get gained up on lol)

[Gothic_Knight]

I'm generally Republican. I agree with some Democrat ideals, but not many.

In my opinion, Republicans=People who fought for this countries freedom
Democrats=People who sat down and took the taxes from Britan.


Pretty much. Democrats=carebears. :DUm...there were no political parties back then. There weren't until Washington left office. And technically, the Republicans of old traced back to the Democratic Party.

I'm a Democrat. I'm a moderate. I lean more towards Democratic beliefs, but not all of them. I could name a few candidates I would want to run from both parties. Not many, but a few.

And for anyone who says Democrats are pussies....Andrew Jackson, Eisenhower, FDR, etc.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

but then again democrat stood for different things when those people were in office

[Gothic_Knight]

but then again democrat stood for different things when those people were in officeSo did the Federalists, National Republicans, and Whigs. Times change, though.

I know that the Democratic party has gotten worse. But so did the Republicans. They were forever, and will be, scarred with Watergate. Both have technically gotten worse since the days of the Westward Expansion (except the Democrats...their height was during the Great Depression). The Republicans lost some ground with Watergate, but they were able to gain it back.

And 2008 is another year :wink:

[DouggyO.o]

i hope so

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

trust me, 2008 will definately be a new year :D

[nwshc]

...For the Republicans. :) :) :) :) :) :!:

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

oh absolutely hehehehe :D

[maximan]

If people are stupid enough to elect another flag waving douche, I'm leaving the country.

[Gothic_Knight]

If people are stupid enough to elect another flag waving douche, I'm leaving the country.Yea...like, after Eisenhower, there have been no good presidential candidates...

And I am NOT having Bill Frist be my President...too bad I can't vote.

Wouldn't mind Powell running though...

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

im rooting for condoliza

[Genghis Sean]

Condileza is an ugly whore
I've never heard of Bill Frist but he can go fist himself
and I hope all you dumbass republicans get drafted and end up being blown up by a shitcovered iraqi with dynamite on his chest
I'll be a consciounscious objector ^_^

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

if i were drafted id be proud to fight and die for my country, thank you very much. oh, and since your entire basis for voting for president of the most powerful nation is how they look, we know your opinion can not be trusted

[nwshc]

Condileza is an ugly whore
I think you are jealous of her :P

and I hope all you dumbass republicans get drafted and end up being blown up by a shitcovered iraqi with dynamite on his chest.
Are you pussy Democrats afraid to fight for your country? Do you not want this country to go on? Like Matt said, it would be an honor to fight for my country. Sadly, I'm only 14.

[Gothic_Knight]

Uh, Sean, please calm down ^_^;;

But he's right. Who would want to fight in a war that's based on false intelligence (that some say was rigged...I think the BBC has an article about that, don't have the link though)?

Wow, saying we're pussies, eh? That's a real original thing, considering that I don't remember that happened during 'Nam.

Yeah...let's see all of those senators jump up, ready to pick up an SMG or some random sniper rifle. Let's see Condy pick one up, then I'll go into submission.

Given the war was ACTUALLY necessary, and that the US was running out of troops, I'd gladly pick up a Desert Eagle, an SMG, and a frag grenade or two and join the fray. I have loved ones here that I need to protect.

The last truly war that was truly necessary was for this country to go on was WWII. Well, that was for the free world, in retrospec. Don't even count the Persian Gulf, because that was some random battle. Even though I do like the idea, was the War on Terror NECESSARY to go on? We could certainly survive. We'd live in fear everyday and put warnings up for about 20 years till we get internationally attacked again, but our country CAN STILL SURVIVE.

[Φρανκομβριτ]

I Canada, we just had the shittyest thing happen> A Conservative just went over to Liberal because she was mad at the conservatives. Is this right? Now all the votes are going to be swayed! Personally, I think le partie rouge is way better then le partie bleu, but still, with that aside, it isnt fair to le partie bleu supporters!

[Genghis Sean]

Yes Gothic, if this stupid war on terror was a war that had a good reason, I'd pick up a gun and have fun killin the enemy, but it's not, so I'm not gonna die for it.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

We could certainly survive. We'd live in fear everyday and put warnings up for about 20 years till we get internationally attacked again, but our country CAN STILL SURVIVE.

let me get this straight: did you just say you'd rather sit and do nothing until we get internationally attacked again, killing thousands of innocents, and then still do nothing? all this opposed to just going into iraq like we are now? your an idiot, you just openly wished for terrorist attacks on america and acknoledged you wouldnt give a shit. way to go, asshole. you know what our country can also survive? pussy shits like you who complain about the war and everything we do

[Gothic_Knight]

Whoa, you've taken everything out of context.

The question was "Is this war truly necessary to have the basic principles of our country survive?" Now, can our country survive if we get a terrorist attack? Yes. I'm not opposed to all of the War on Terror. I support it...to an extent. They screwed us up, and we have to serve them back, but not go invade random countries whenever we please.

Now, if we were attacked, could our country still prosper? Madrid got bombed, and they haven't plunged back into the Dark Ages. And look at Germany. They had debts of WWII and WWI to pay off, yet they still remain one of the most powerful countries on this planet. One setback will not harm a country that much. Many setbacks, yes, but one? Odds are against that idea.

In the beginning, I supported Bush. He retaliated the right way to the 9/11 attacks. Then I learned other things. I learned about the memo where the government could've stopped them from happening, but they didn't. I learned that the federal defecit was getting larger. Guess what that means? We have to pay it back, or we'll face an economic crisis reminiscent of the one we first suffered under the Articles of Confederation. The national debt is already the largest we ever been. That's just going to plague us when we get older. And then came Iraq.

He went in there without letting the UN finish their job. He wanted to finish what his father couldn't, plain and simple. He took the country off of the real danger, Osama bin Laden, and focused the central threat on Iraq. Osama's still out there, scheming away. And we have the asshole Kim Jong-Il in North Korea, who we should've been finished with long ago. And now there's Russia, who's starting to back away from the democracy they started. Soon, unalienable rights will become alienable, all around the world. It has started. It's unavoidable. We'll just have to sit back and wait for WWIII, with North Korea as our main threat. We had our chance, we blew it, we now have to face the facts.

And it seems you have a fancy for comparing the word pussy with a democrat. In reality, we're all pussies, as you say, in some retrospec. It's impossible to not be afraid of anything. You can call me a pussy for being too shy in public. That's one definition. You certainly can't call me one for being a rifle-toting man who's a pretty good shot, now can ya?

[nwshc]

You right, the war wasn't necessary. We could still survive without it. And we would probably be in less debt without it. But, If we did not have this war, i can guarantee you that we would have been hit again, and most likely again. What is it, 2,000 soldiers have died? Well if you think about it, if we did not go to war, there probably would be thousands more civilians dead. People would be outraged that we didn't go to war and could have prevented these catastrophic deaths. As a result of this war:
A ruthless dictator is in prison. A dictator that killed thousands himself.
Many, many terrorist have died or been captured. Which if this war didn't happen, they would all be running around to do as they pleased.

Yes i do admit that Bush could and should be doing a better job. He has proposed a bill that would allow him to keep troops over there for 2 more years and to get an extra 20 billions dollars i think. That is despicable. We should not occupy their country for another 2 years. Just too long and nothing would get done. And 20 billion dollars, that could go to so much more, like social security. We should be focused on rebuilding Iraq, and getting the hell out of there, and going back to normal and focus on domestic problems.

I would rather go to war than have thousands more of our citizens die. That's just what i think.

[Gothic_Knight]

You've got a point, but you also have to think. Our troops are civilians as well, not just machines that can be easily replaced. The same lives that he are trying to protect through his pro-Life stance are being lost overseas as well. This is where the conflict comes in.

And as another thought, I don't really care if you call me a pussy because I'm soft on war. I'm a Catholic, and I don't believe and killing people to solve problems, not this way, anyway. I like to follow it more of Hammaurabi's way: "An arm for an arm"

We've killed/captured more Arabs there then they have us. Now, IMO, it's just senseless...

[Anonymous]

HAve we really? How many did they kill when Osama Bin laden planned the attack on the trade centers? I mean seriously I don't like the war I don't think it should happen, but what I do think is that we should find Osama bin laden before he makes another attempt to hurt many more people...

[nwshc]

And as another thought, I don't really care if you call me a pussy because I'm soft on war. I'm a Catholic, and I don't believe and killing people to solve problems, not this way, anyway. I like to follow it more of Hammaurabi's way: "An arm for an arm"
Actually, the pussy comment was more directed at that sean kid. Im not going to let him call me a dumbass and get away with it.

[nwshc]

Knight,
You right, there is alot of conflict when you have to choose. But what would you rather have, 2000 dead, or 10,000 someodd dead.

[Gothic_Knight]

And as another thought, I don't really care if you call me a pussy because I'm soft on war. I'm a Catholic, and I don't believe and killing people to solve problems, not this way, anyway. I like to follow it more of Hammaurabi's way: "An arm for an arm"
Actually, the pussy comment was more directed at that sean kid. Im not going to let him call me a dumbass and get away with it.Hey, be nice to my friend.

Heh, sorry about him. He basically just likes to act like an asshole to everything. Really. Especially that one fic he wrote...Sir Bon Bon goes to Iraq. It makes absolutely no sense, and is pretty funny.

And about your other question: Yea, you're right, but I still view a kill as a kill. Enemy or ally, someone dies. This is purely about opinion, and you can't change someones. IMO, this was senseless, because the amount of force we took could've been a lot less. Many lives would've been saved if we just would've let the UN finish their work. That's the only thing about it that bothers me. War is usually justified, but when I saw the final report of US intelligence that there were no weapons, and that we decided to overrule the rest of the world's advice, that just got me pissed.

If it was something dire, like something to the extent of the Holocaust, then by all means, yes, go in. However, if it's something in this instance, where you now have reports that intelligence both from Britain and the US is rigged...then we have a problem.

[nwshc]

The Odds of both Britan's and the US's reports being rigged is slim to none.

[Gothic_Knight]

Eh, the BBC had reports on it...I have absolutely no clue, so meh...don't care though. What's done is done.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

you cant ever trust the news. wait what am i saying thats the only way people get information... but really you can't trust them ;)

[Φρανκομβριτ]

the news glorifies things. They want you to watch their show. Of course they are going to lie a bit! We have to trust them though becaus ethey have more sources then us....basterds!

[nwshc]

You just have to figure out what to trust, and what to just put aside in the BullShit pile.

[Millermagic]

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