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daniel711
July 6th, 2011, 10:27 AM
Um...hi. So I have this problem. For a bunch of years now, I've been pretty confused about my sexuality. I've watched a lot of gay porn in the past, and while it tends to get a rise out of me faster than straight porn, I never end up feeling as good in the end as I do when watching straight porn. I've kept that to myself for the most part, except for when I told my two best friends once that I watch gay porn. In addition, I find myself crushing on guys more often than girls, but that may be a shyness thing, since I freeze up and become really timid around girls I like.

Anyway, I've never been in a relationship, so I've never felt like I could reasonably state whether or not I'm gay, bi, or straight. And any time, I've liked a friend, I've assumed it's just an emotional thing, since truth be told, I don't like the idea of me having sex with another guy. That might be because I was molested/raped/forced into sex for 5 years by my older brothers back in the day, so I probably never recovered from that. So I might feel a physical and emotional attraction to men, but never a sexual one. I figure that perhaps it has nothing to do with my sexual orientation, but rather, me liking both genders is just me being a very lonely person and wanting to be in a relationship, regardless of who it's with. These are the thoughts that usually run through my head, and I deal with them accordingly. Until now.

Recently, I've been hanging out with a friend who I'll call Alex. I didn't know Alex well before this past semester in college, but him and I have become really good friends. He's straight, but his personality makes him act really cute/affectionate (when I say cute, I mean it as a personality thing, not a physical one. So maybe cutesy is a better word? Idk). Like, he'll be on his bed and I'll be on the floor, and we'll be talking, and he'll start making little patterns on my kneecap with his toe. Or I was washing his dishes once one morning (I had a hangover and couldn't go back to sleep), and when he saw me washing them, he came up behind me and hugged me from there, and gave me this very kind of sleepy, kind of happy "hi." He doesn't care at all if people sleep on the same bed as him, so I've slept next to him a bunch of times, and he always smiles and says good morning when he wakes up and sees me, regardless of where I am in the room. And yes, I've slept in the same bed as him even when nobody else was around, and there were many other places to sleep at. I enjoy the times that I spend with him, and he enjoys them too. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say that he's one of my best friends.

Which is why being around him is torture. I like him a lot; his personality is a lot of what I'd want from a person in a relationship. But I know I can't have it. And I'm not even quite sure if I'd want it. But at the same time, sometimes I feel like there would be nothing better than to just wrap him up in my arms and hold him and caress him. Which isn't a very straight thought. I was hanging out with him on Sunday and Monday, just him and I for the most part, and it was fun. Except on Monday, I completely broke down. I woke up, looked at him and his sleepy face, thinking about how happy it all made me, and I started crying. And then laughing. And then crying. And when he was awake, he became more and more pissed off because he kept asking me what was wrong, and I told him nothing, and then stupidly told him that I couldn't tell him. But I felt horrible because I trust him completely, and didn't want him to think that I didn't, you know. He had made breakfast, and at one point got really angry when I was laughing, which was beyond unlike him, and it made me feel even worse. Which made me cry again. And then we're hanging out on his bed, and he's on the phone with his father, and he's laying on my leg, and I'm crying even more. When he gets off the phone, he starts rubbing my shoulder with his hand, and my foot with his toes, and asks me what's wrong again. And he just looked so unhappy...

So I told him. I felt like I shouldn't have, but I did. I told him that I think that I'm bi, and that I like him. However, I also told him that I don't want to be bi (I apologize if that offends anybody; I don't have a problem at all with other people being gay or bi, but it's not how I'd like to live my life. Which is why liking another guy makes me feel even worse). I told him how at least a couple of our friends wouldn't want to talk to me anymore if they knew, how I wouldn't be able to do the usual stupid nonsense that my friends and I do all the time, how I wouldn't be able to play football with them anymore (it's my favorite sport; fullback ftw), etc. And...he continued to do what he had already been doing. He told me it was ok, he told me it didn't seem like I wanted to be in a relationship with a man anyway, he told me he doesn't think of me any differently, he told me he loved me (he says that a lot; he said that the day before and I said he was lying, but apparently he wasn't), he gave me a hug and held me while I cried. Which sounds great, right?

Wrong. Nothing he said made me like him less. In fact, his ability to be so understanding just made me like him more. As the day went on, though, I started to heavily regret telling him, and became distant. I wouldn't look him in the eye, I wouldn't really talk to him, I kept evading his questions, I kept isolating myself from him, etc. A bunch of our friends and us went to go see a fireworks show, and I ended up cutting away from the group because I felt ashamed to be around him. When we finally got back, everybody started drinking. And when him and I got back to the apartment, I went into another room and cleared off a futon to sleep on. He saw me and asked what was I doing. And I told him clearing a place to sleep. He told me I wasn't sleeping there, I said yes I was. I went to the kitchen to get a glass of water, and come back to find the stuff back on the futon and the light off, with him standing there, looking at me. Well I'm a lot stronger than he is (I'm a fairly big dude), so putting the stuff back was easy, and he made a joke about how he thought it would deter me more. So before he goes to sleep, I tell him that I don't think I'm going to come to his apartment anymore, and how I'm not going to visit him in his state (we had made plans for me to visit him in his home state for like a week). He said ok, we go to sleep in different rooms. Next morning, he's off to work. He says bye, I say bye, but stare at a wall instead of looking at him. He says we need to talk later, and leaves. I delete him from my Facebook, get my stuff together, and leave his place to go back home.

Later on, he texts me and asks me why I'm being so weird with him, and why I deleted him from Facebook. I told him because it's weird. He asks why, I say you know why, he says "but I told you it's not strange to me, you know that." And I end up going off ona big rant about how it is weird, and I regret telling him so much, and that I like him a lot which isn't fair because nothing can come of it, and how I don't like people often (I find myself genuinely liking someone only once a year, so this is a big deal to me), and I don't know how to be around him and not like him. And I'm telling him that I still think he's one of my closest friends, and that that's why this is so hard and confusing, because I keep being torn between wanting more from him and being happy with our friendship. But that in order to stop liking him, I'd have to cut him out of my life. And he kept saying that it's not weird, nothing I've said is weird, please not to cut him out of his life, and that I'm one of his best friends and that it'd hurt a lot of I stopped talking to him. I gave him back a shirt he gave me as a birthday present a while back, told him I was deleting his number from my phone, and that we shouldn't be friends anymore. And he said that he couldn't believe this is how or why I'd end our friendship. He seemed really angry, but he kept saying that he would talk to me tomorrow, that we would continue talking, etc. Meanwhile, I'm trying not to think about him, and to erase him from my life, a particularly difficult endeavor given that we are in the same circle of friends.

I know that I shouldn't have told him how I felt, but I was torn between him not trusting me and telling him but losing him. And now that he knows, he doesn't care. But I do. I can't be around him and not like him, and he can't change who he is so that I wouldn't like him. I want him to be my friend, but it'll hurt to be around him. I don't think I could ever not second guess myself as to what is and isn't ok to do and say now around him, or whether something that I'd do before (like rubbing his head) will be seen as something friendly or something more, and whether or not I'll be crossing some sort of boundary now. On top of that, I had been fine with being just regularly confused about my sexuality, but then he shows up to confuse me even more. I mean, how do I know if I am actually bi? Does seeing men perform sexual acts and being turned on make me bi, even if I wouldn't want to be performing those acts anyway? Does liking an amazing guy make me bi, or am I just seeking a relationship with who he is and what we have, and not him specifically? I love him, I really do. I love him as a friend, but at the same time, I like him more than one should like a friend. And I can't cope with that and be around him. But to avoid and shun him is to lose him as a friend, and that'd hurt both of us. I'm not sure if I care too much about this, seeing as how he doesn't seem to care at all, but what can I do? I don't want things between him and I to change, but can they even be the same anymore? Can I lay on his bed next to him, while he's in nothing but underwear, and have it be ok? Will be object, or be worried as to what I'd do? And how could I not feel like a creep doing that? But if I don't, then things HAVE changed, and that'd make me feel worse. And am I even bi, or did I just get really lonely and say something that wasn't even true?

I'm sorry for the rant, and I'm sorry if I didn't post this in the correct place, but this is making me really depressed, and the thought of having to lose him over this is extremely painful, but I don't see any other alternative. Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated...

AltoVaughn
July 6th, 2011, 12:30 PM
I don't understand why you would isolate your self from a supportive friend that was trying his best to make you feel like everything was okay. He could possibly share feelings for you by the sound of it. It also sounds like to me that you really love him, even if you don't want to. I assume that he would be willing to help you figure all of this out. Why run from Love?

daniel711
July 6th, 2011, 01:53 PM
:( to be honest, part of me feels like this would've been a lot easier to handle had he NOT have been so supportive. I mean, it's him I like, so him being understanding, while incredibly sweet, doesn't change my feelings for him. Part of me feels like, out of respect for him, I should back away from him so that I don't do anything stupid. But then he's all comforting and whatnot, and still being nice, annd it makes me want to scream. Perhaps I just think it's weird that he's not even feeling the slightest bit weirded out by the whole ordeal.

That last point is probably one of the most confusing parts: why isn't he more bothered?? Y'know, he does these things that are extremely questionable, and has even before I knew him well (like appearing on my lap and deciding that we needed to take pictures together that way). And even way later in the day, while people were starting to drink, he wouldn't let me go into the mini party because he saw that something was wrong, and proceeded to play with my shoulder and ask me if it felt like a massage. And it confuses the hell out of me, because I'm all for being understanding, obviously, but I feel as if he's being more than that.

I'm trying to run from love because, if it's unrequited, it'll ruin our friendship anyway. And sticking by him will only make me love him more...but it'd be amazing if he loved me back. More than a friend love, at least. I can't tell you the amount of times people have seen him and I next to each other and either said that we look cute, or should be a couple. One of my good friends even said that he wishes Alex and I were gay so we could be together (though said friend was high at the time, so maybe his input doesn't count, lol). I'm just really confused...and I feel like I'm being a complete jerk to him because of it. I don't know what to do anymore.

Any more advice/help would be greatly appreciated.

AltoVaughn
July 6th, 2011, 05:03 PM
:( to be honest, part of me feels like this would've been a lot easier to handle had he NOT have been so supportive. I mean, it's him I like, so him being understanding, while incredibly sweet, doesn't change my feelings for him. Part of me feels like, out of respect for him, I should back away from him so that I don't do anything stupid. But then he's all comforting and whatnot, and still being nice, annd it makes me want to scream. Perhaps I just think it's weird that he's not even feeling the slightest bit weirded out by the whole ordeal.

That last point is probably one of the most confusing parts: why isn't he more bothered?? Y'know, he does these things that are extremely questionable, and has even before I knew him well (like appearing on my lap and deciding that we needed to take pictures together that way). And even way later in the day, while people were starting to drink, he wouldn't let me go into the mini party because he saw that something was wrong, and proceeded to play with my shoulder and ask me if it felt like a massage. And it confuses the hell out of me, because I'm all for being understanding, obviously, but I feel as if he's being more than that.

I'm trying to run from love because, if it's unrequited, it'll ruin our friendship anyway. And sticking by him will only make me love him more...but it'd be amazing if he loved me back. More than a friend love, at least. I can't tell you the amount of times people have seen him and I next to each other and either said that we look cute, or should be a couple. One of my good friends even said that he wishes Alex and I were gay so we could be together (though said friend was high at the time, so maybe his input doesn't count, lol). I'm just really confused...and I feel like I'm being a complete jerk to him because of it. I don't know what to do anymore.

Any more advice/help would be greatly appreciated.

So you have an issue with possibly being gay/bi ? I'm sure you really are hurting him. From your description it seems very likely that he "loves you back". Why not go with it? In the very least, Tell him why you think you need to stay away from him.

daniel711
July 6th, 2011, 05:20 PM
I have tried to explain to him why. He doesn't seem to feel as if that's important. I mean, I know he loves me as a friend at least; it was (and hopefully still is) an excellent friendship. I don't think it's going to go past that though, what with his relationship with women and a girl he's currently trying to get with (or kinda get with, as he's being really shy and standoff-ish about trying to get with her, even though numerous people, myself included, have told him to go for her).

I suppose I do have an issue with being bi...I don't think I'm gay, because I do find women attractive, just not as quickly. And the last person I liked was female, and she was amazing and fun and smart and crazy and blah blah blah. But regardless of how I feel about my sexuality, I just don't truly understand how he can be ok with all of this to the extent that he is.

Idk, I told you, I'm confused. It's not like I've dealt with something like this before. If it helps, I did text him to apologize for being a jerk, and am awaiting a response (which might not come because his Wednesdays are super busy/ he is the worst person in the world at texting).

Koffing
July 6th, 2011, 05:41 PM
You really should stay freinds. I have the same that i love a good friend, but I didn't told him yet... But I understand how you feel and you really should stay friends. I think sometimes will be hard but there is nothing better to have that kind of friend that understands you and accepts who you are ;)

daniel711
July 6th, 2011, 07:35 PM
Is it fine though? To be around someone you like, and who knows you like them, and have nothing come from it? I can't think of a single girl I've ever continued to be friends with that I liked and then got over (which I suppose says a lot about me, though I swear I'm not as superficial as that makes me sound). And clearly we both want to be friends, so idk. The whole ordeal has been baffling, and I get more confused the more I think about it. I mean, even after I had told him and we talked, I was watching some show while he was reading up on stocks, and I started rubbing his head and he didn't complain or tell me to back off, so...idk.

Seeing as how he hasn't responded yet, I might text him again later to find out what's going on here. I know everyone might think it odd that I'm questioning someone who clearly is being supportive, but I guess like I feel as if he's being more understanding than one should? Idk. In the meantime, keep the advice or thoughts flowing, people; it really is helping me out.

Portable Desert
July 6th, 2011, 08:33 PM
It's not that he doesn't care, it's that he accepts you for who you are.

AltoVaughn
July 6th, 2011, 09:24 PM
Maybe he is so understanding because he loves you too?

daniel711
July 6th, 2011, 09:54 PM
That might be wishful thinking, lol.

But update: I texted him around an hour ago, just saying hey. And he said "hiiii." So I apologized for being a spaz, and he asked me, excitedly, if this meant we could talk again. And I said yes, and apologized for being such a jerk while he's been so understanding, and that I'm genuinely sorry for trying to push him away, even though it probably wouldn't work because I haven't figured out a way to look at him and not be happy. To which he responded to by sending a smiley face, along with telling me that I am awesome, not to worry about it, and that he just wants me to be happy.

He takes forever to respond, but I'll update as the convo progresses. But jeez, this really does make me love him more...

AltoVaughn
July 6th, 2011, 10:59 PM
That might be wishful thinking, lol.

But update: I texted him around an hour ago, just saying hey. And he said "hiiii." So I apologized for being a spaz, and he asked me, excitedly, if this meant we could talk again. And I said yes, and apologized for being such a jerk while he's been so understanding, and that I'm genuinely sorry for trying to push him away, even though it probably wouldn't work because I haven't figured out a way to look at him and not be happy. To which he responded to by sending a smiley face, along with telling me that I am awesome, not to worry about it, and that he just wants me to be happy.

He takes forever to respond, but I'll update as the convo progresses. But jeez, this really does make me love him more...
Loving someone more isn't a bad thing.

LDK Ven
July 7th, 2011, 09:03 AM
Hi! Well i was in the -almost- same situation with you about 1-2 years ago. I had the same confusion.I did have some more-than-friendly feelings for a friend of mine , but on the other hand i wanted completely nothing sexual.
So as you said you have an emotional attraction to guys right now, but not a sexual one.Well in a while you will have a sexual one too.At least that's exactly how things started with me. And most importantly just like me -but unlike most guys - you dont seem to like having gay/bi attractions in your life,too.However i believe that you will meet someone that you will like and love SO MUCH that you wont care about anything but him.Thats what happened to me, but only to bring much more confusion.Or it could be that this guy is the one youre narrating about.
So,concerning him, by your words i get the feeling that this guy is not gay/bi, or even if he is he wants you as a friend.i know how hard it is to hear that...it's just my opinion....keep in mind that some straight dudes will flirt with you and some gay dudes will act like you don't exist even though they wish they were with you.of course im not doubting your sense, and there is still a possibility he might want something.
I really really dont consider you talking to him a bad idea. With time you would feel MUCH worse if you hadnt talked to him.He doesnt seem like someone whos gonna go gossip you around,and he does seem to be interested in you -as a friend- so i think you might have overdone it with cutting him out. I know how ashamed you feel after this, and indeed your relationship has changed . I mean you cant act like only-friends now, but tell me : were you only-friends before? even if you were , you are the one you had been acting all this time, and pretending nothings going on. wasnt that hard too? and by putting distance between you two wont help you forget about, or turn back time. at least thats what i think.

I would like to talk more about this.PM if you want. By the way i considered my story (this one (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=108137)) a long one, but it seems you beat me up> XD. Have a look at it, but know that i dont narrate as well as you do,plus my english sucks. :)

LDK Ven
July 7th, 2011, 09:11 AM
also i dont believe that your feelings being boosted by his reaction is something bad. i mean that if he responded in a bad way you would have hurt feelings, not disappeared feelings.you love him more, and it is true it is possible nothing might happen between you (sorry :( ...i dont like saying that) but at least you can still talk each other , and he remains friendly.okay things could be better. but they could be much worse. you could be much,much worse.

daniel711
July 7th, 2011, 04:48 PM
Idk, I suppose it could be worse...but idk. At least if it had gone poorly, I could've argued that he's a dick and not a real friend, which would've made me not like him. But the more I love him, the harder it will be to get over him, the harder it'll be to be around him and not want to be with him.

If I can't be with him, then I'd at least want to not like him, you know? But I've been so unhappy about this, and being depressed over this is making it very difficult to do what I'd usually do on a daily basis.

Idk what him and I had. I want to say we had a great friendship. He says he doesn't think any different of me, and that nothing will change, but it's supposed to, isn't it? I would assume it'd be more awkward. As far as how I acted with him, well...sometimes it was just friendly. Sometimes we'd just talk, or chill, or do whatever, because that's what friends do. And that was fun. But sometimes I'd act like a bit more, I guess. Like how we'd be partying and drinking, and I might foolishly call him over, and he'd come sit on my leg, and when he got up I'd be sad and try to call him back later. And I always thought that was odd because I have excellent control over my actions when drinking, so doing something like that was something I got on my own case about.

Cutting him out would be to get rid of this infatuation I seem to have with him. I mean, how else can I stop myself from liking him? You say you've been in a similar situation, right? Well if things between him and I stay the same, then he'll still tell me he loves me, we'll still cook together, he'll still lean on me randomly from time to time, he'll still throw his arm around me/stop and wait for me if he sees me lagging behind when we're with friends, we'll still drink and smoke and end up talking our hanging out together, I'll still do nice things for him and he'll do them for me. And that's great, as far as friends go. But that serves only to reinforce how I feel for him. And how can I carry on a healthy friendship with him while I have such strong feelings for him? I'm aware that him and I most likely won't be together; I think he's straight, even though he does many many questionable things. It'd break my heart, and even thinking that nothing will happen now hurts like hell, but in order to get past it, I have to believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that it can't happen. But I don't want to hear him say that...

Tomorrow is Friday here. Tomorrow is usually when I head to his place, and I stay there until Sunday. A friend of ours keeps asking me if I'm coming tomorrow, because the weekends is when my circle of friends gathers to hang out and party and whatnot. And my friend did say that everything's ok, and that he wants me to be happy, but...can things be the same? Should I even go tomorrow? How can I look at him while he knows how I feel. And if he does his usual cute stuff, do I tell him to stop? So many questions that I can't answer...

The ironic thing here is, normally, I'm a very level-headed person, who makes rational decisions, and helps others to do the same. But throw my heart into the picture, and BAM!, there goes common sense.

daniel711
July 7th, 2011, 11:33 PM
Update (I know I shouldn't double post, but I won't post again, so it doesn't matter): I've pretty much hit a level of deep depression over this, and in passing some mental point, ended up speaking with the guy in a really dark manner. And miraculously, it broke my love for him. Makes me sound fickle, but meh, you'd be surprised as to what kind of clarity exists when you've hit rock bottom.

Anyway, thanks for your help, everybody. This can be closed/deleted now.

LuckyLuke
July 9th, 2011, 02:03 PM
Quite frankly, that was a horrible, horrible thing you did.

You told him exactly what you wanted to tell him and he replied in literally the BEST POSSIBLE WAY. What did you expect him to say, "I'm bi!"? Realistically, come on.


You can still do everything you did with him before. You can rub his head. Sleep next to him. Talk to him. He doesn't care about that; HE CARES ABOUT YOU!

If you're lucky enough to have him take you back, you should be running out that door and embracing him in your arms because, gosh darn it, that's one hell of a friend.

P.S. - He loves you. Loves you. Likely not in the sexual sense, but in the emotional sense. Isn't this what you were looking for anyway?

AltoVaughn
July 9th, 2011, 03:31 PM
Quite frankly, that was a horrible, horrible thing you did.

You told him exactly what you wanted to tell him and he replied in literally the BEST POSSIBLE WAY. What did you expect him to say, "I'm bi!"? Realistically, come on.


You can still do everything you did with him before. You can rub his head. Sleep next to him. Talk to him. He doesn't care about that; HE CARES ABOUT YOU!

If you're lucky enough to have him take you back, you should be running out that door and embracing him in your arms because, gosh darn it, that's one hell of a friend.

P.S. - He loves you. Loves you. Likely not in the sexual sense, but in the emotional sense. Isn't this what you were looking for anyway?

Basically what I've tried to express in this thread. Good Job stating it better than I.

Jalin
July 9th, 2011, 09:12 PM
First off, I'd truly like to say sorry for what your brothers did to you when you were younger. They obviously need help for their sick, crude minds.
Second, don't isolate yourself. You're very lucky to have such a supportive friend such as "Alex." Him being understanding and okay with who you are is an amazing attribute in a friend, and I wish all straight friends had that with their gay/bi/transgender friends. Unfortunately, it'll never happen. He could possibly be bi/gay, too - but not just "out of the closet" - which is why he's so supportive and okay with who you are. He wants to be friends with you, so don't push him away. I know you love him, but you pushing him away will just hurt you both, which is what we're trying to avoid. It's hard, I know - but this is the best for you both. Do as most have us have said, and everything will be okay.
Good luck! <3

jhsjsams719
July 15th, 2011, 01:53 PM
This basically describes my story...except I didn't tell the guy :P
You are one lucky guy. I'm a straight-curious guy, and I'm a very touchy-feely person too :P Guy or girl (but more to guys, because it'd be weird to be that touchy-feely to a girl, I'd be a huge pervert.)
Anyway, that really was the most comforting way "Alex" has responded to you. So were you expecting an actual relationship with him? or what...what is your goal here?

Let's try to think this the other way...Say some other good friend said the same thing to you, that he think he's bi, and that he thinks he likes you. Would you think differently? Would you be uncomfortable with him?
I mean, if he's that good of a friend, I'd do my best to make him feel comfortable about himself in front of me.

Anyway back to the point, yes, I understand that you wouldn't be comfortable or act the same way around the person you like, but really you just have to get over it...especially when he accepts for who you are, and still acts the same way towards you.

Sometimes we might like a friend more than a friend, because they're just THAT good of a friend! It's a wonderful person to have in life. (My "good" friend, got a girlfriend, and started to totally not to talk to me anymore -_- jerk)

Well, I don't know if the same thing applies to this, but my ex-girlfriend and I were the best of friends before we were in a relationship, and we decided to become good friends again after we broke up (but not immediately of course) because we were that good of friends. That really wasn't the best relationship I had... Dating your best friends, seems like the best thing to do, but in reality, it's the worst thing to do. You may misunderstand yourself "like-liking" somebody for loving a best friend.

Hmm, again, you're a really lucky guy, I'm jealous of you. I don't why you would do such a thing and cut connections from him...when you don't even attempt to try to work things out, or give your friend a chance. You really should re-consider. You have a wonderful friend, that could go on until the day you die. I wish I had a friend like that :)

IanNE
July 16th, 2011, 02:55 AM
wait a little bit, start talking to both sexes and watch both types of porn and see what you like better ;)

Schizothemia
July 16th, 2011, 03:45 AM
I know you said you dealt with the issue, but I don't really think you have. You've sort of put a mask on it from what I can tell, and it's going to hurt more than you think.

First of all, don't rely on labels to determine who you are, this is something that I've told people I know for a long time. So you like watching guys fuck, but don't want to do it yourself, no big deal, whatever floats your boat. Part of accepting who you are is not giving a shit what people will say with whatever labels they want to impose on you.

Secondly, about Alex, I think you do still like him, and it's fine, it's something people experience all the time. He reacted in the best way possible, sure there isn't a possibility that he'd ever return the feelings the same way, but clearly he cares enough to want to be there for you, and he could probably help you get over him much faster than you isolating yourself from him and severing all ties. This is coming from experience, I had a really big crush on a super close friend and told him and thought cutting him from my life would solve the problem. It didn't I only found myself thinking about him more and more and it hurt so much more than just confronting the issue head on, and in your case, the issue was willing to be there as support!

As for being dark and twisted with the guy, I can honestly say it didn't change anything about your feelings for the guy, the reason why is because again, I've been there. But trust me those feelings come back tenfold. So embrace them, at least until you get over them, because from the sounds of it, this guy is an amazing friend and someone you should fight for to have in your life because those types of friends are very difficult to find.

Lastly, don't try and over predict what the outcomes are. Don't go in with any preconcieved notions because clearly he isn't following what your predicting. If he says nothing has changed, then odds are for him nothing has, and again clearly he wants to be there for you to help you, clearly he cares, don't let that slip away. Just give it a shot, you might be surprise what can happen.

LKIFMRUG9556
July 16th, 2011, 06:29 AM
So you have an issue with possibly being gay/bi ? I'm sure you really are hurting him. From your description it seems very likely that he "loves you back". Why not go with it? In the very least, Tell him why you think you need to stay away from him.

I agree with that, I think he sounds to physically affectionate towards you not to be gay/bi

He sounds like he loves you back, really, honestly loves you back.

Goodluck.

IanMilo
July 16th, 2011, 07:34 AM
I know you resolved it. But dont ruin what you guys had. I would kill for a friend like that. You said you cant see yourself performing gay sexual acts, but a good relationship romantic or not is not all about sex or being physical. There has to be an emotional aspect. You respond to the emotional aspect, he gives you that. So go ahead, fall in love. At least its emotional so you get what you want but you dont feel like you need more. Dont be scared to take a leap of faith. If you end things now you might spend your whole life wondering and regretting, I seriously hope you think this over some more.

saleoboy
July 16th, 2011, 05:44 PM
Daniel,

Based on what you have told us, I'm inclined to think this "Alex" guy is bi. So, why not give hime a chance because the ball is effectively in his court now. Don't be cruel to him though! You know he lalready oves you so don't start giving him reasons not to. Good luck though, I hope you find what you're looking for :) He sounds like an awesome guy x