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Activate
February 15th, 2007, 02:02 AM
As my mum was driving me back from my drum lesson we went passed KFC, anyway as we went passed there were protesters holding up signs and dressing up as chickens. The signs said "meat is murder" and had disturbing pictures of dead chickens and such.
I told my mother to stop the car and I told them I completely agree with them. And they are doing something good.
As a vegetarian I was practically going to help them, but it was to late.
Discuss.
Elscire
February 15th, 2007, 08:28 AM
we humans are carnivores, its impossible to stop everyone in the world from eating meat unless all the animals on earth have died out.
chelsea714
February 15th, 2007, 08:35 AM
It's funny how they single out KFC. If you buy chicken anywhere in America then it's pretty much guaranteed that the chicken lived a horrible life. that's just how it is here, and if you don't like it, then don't eat meat.
serial-thrilla
February 15th, 2007, 04:08 PM
i disagree, i think because we are highest on the food chain we have the right to eat what we want.
Lt.Col.Environment
February 15th, 2007, 04:21 PM
Experts agree that plants can in fact feel pain, which makes it wrong for them to be consumed. But don't despair, humans really needn't eat anything other than their young.
If every woman on the planet got pregnant right now, we would have 3 billion little bundles of fat and meat to feed the world. And two months later the whole process can be started anew.
"But Lt. Col. Environment, what will we eat before the babies are ready?"
Great question, Cindy. The mammalian digestive system is shockingly inefficient compared to other creatures'. So inefficient that we can recycle our urine and feces for months on end.
If we follow those two mind numbingly easy steps, absolutely no other species on the planet has to be inconvienced in any way whatsoever
schrei jess
February 15th, 2007, 04:30 PM
My diary would have been a good place for this, seeing as it's dedicated to exactly this sort of thing.
Bankai15
February 15th, 2007, 05:03 PM
Experts agree that plants can in fact feel pain, which makes it wrong for them to be consumed. But don't despair, humans really needn't eat anything other than their young.
If every woman on the planet got pregnant right now, we would have 3 billion little bundles of fat and meat to feed the world. And two months later the whole process can be started anew.
"But Lt. Col. Environment, what will we eat before the babies are ready?"
Great question, Cindy. The mammalian digestive system is shockingly inefficient compared to other creatures'. So inefficient that we can recycle our urine and feces for months on end.
If we follow those two mind numbingly easy steps, absolutely no other species on the planet has to be inconvienced in any way whatsoever
What in the hell is wrong with you?
Elscire
February 15th, 2007, 05:59 PM
Experts agree that plants can in fact feel pain, which makes it wrong for them to be consumed. But don't despair, humans really needn't eat anything other than their young.
If every woman on the planet got pregnant right now, we would have 3 billion little bundles of fat and meat to feed the world. And two months later the whole process can be started anew.
"But Lt. Col. Environment, what will we eat before the babies are ready?"
Great question, Cindy. The mammalian digestive system is shockingly inefficient compared to other creatures'. So inefficient that we can recycle our urine and feces for months on end.
If we follow those two mind numbingly easy steps, absolutely no other species on the planet has to be inconvienced in any way whatsoever
what the F---?
schrei jess
February 15th, 2007, 07:01 PM
That guy is off his rocker, just ignore him >.<
chelsea714
February 15th, 2007, 08:51 PM
Experts agree that plants can in fact feel pain, which makes it wrong for them to be consumed. But don't despair, humans really needn't eat anything other than their young.
If every woman on the planet got pregnant right now, we would have 3 billion little bundles of fat and meat to feed the world. And two months later the whole process can be started anew.
"But Lt. Col. Environment, what will we eat before the babies are ready?"
Great question, Cindy. The mammalian digestive system is shockingly inefficient compared to other creatures'. So inefficient that we can recycle our urine and feces for months on end.
If we follow those two mind numbingly easy steps, absolutely no other species on the planet has to be inconvienced in any way whatsoever
hahahahah that made me laugh so hard , hey while we're at it let's jsut all wear still suits and save water too
Bankai15
February 15th, 2007, 09:25 PM
We are straying off topic here. And LCE needs to take some happy pills.
Maverick
February 15th, 2007, 09:46 PM
Eating animals is not murder.
WriterAnonymous
February 16th, 2007, 02:49 PM
Animals have been eating each other since the beginning of time. Is it wrong that a lion kills an antelope for food? No! It's a natural part of life, buddy.
ViolinPro
February 16th, 2007, 02:56 PM
It is IMPOSSIBLe to stop the whole world from killing chickens cows... etc,...
and as one of these posters said, they singel out KFC, I mean go to Ralphs go to any drug store, fast food store, theres always meat. so its useless.
kk xoxoxoxoxoxox
schrei jess
February 16th, 2007, 03:54 PM
Those who say it's useless, dont want to try at all.
Maybe we wont stop the whole world from not eating animals, but if we can change the way some animals live their lives, it is worth it. Even just one single animal who lives a better life because of us, IT IS WORTH IT. And I guess some of you just cant understand that.
And the reason KFC is singled out is because undercover PETA investigators have found overwhelming evidence against them - sure, it's almost certain that other fast food places do the same thing, but they havent been discovered.
~Dazed&&Confused~
February 16th, 2007, 04:18 PM
meats goood and besides.. if we dont eat them.. who will lol..
Hyper
February 16th, 2007, 05:24 PM
Eating animals is not murder.
Indeed thank you Anthony I <3 you..
And if we dont eat meat.. What will happen to the animals? You do know animals dont have realy alot of room left on the planet... Mostly because of us but overall.. The whole idea that meat is murder is silly
Elscire
February 16th, 2007, 07:21 PM
meats goood and besides.. if we dont eat them.. who will lol..
eating meat isn't murder, skinning animal fur for clothing for the Hollywood Stars to look good is murder
KingCrimson
February 16th, 2007, 08:56 PM
Survival of the fittest, and... we're the fittest
And you get a boney and white if ya dont eat meat, you get sick
schrei jess
February 16th, 2007, 08:59 PM
You dont have to eat meat to survive, that's definetly not true.
And all of that we're stronger stuff so it's okay stuff is crap. As the dominant species on earth, we have a responsibility to protect the weaker, and we're doing a shit job.
greenwise
February 16th, 2007, 09:14 PM
Eating animals is not murder.
But killing them is. :]
and as one of these posters said, they singel out KFC, I mean go to Ralphs go to any drug store, fast food store, theres always meat. so its useless.
its the way KFC does it.
& All you people talking about it; just throwing you opinions in;
try looking into it before you state facts that arent true. <33
Maverick
February 16th, 2007, 09:37 PM
Killing an animal to eat it is not murder. An animal is not a human being. You give animals way too much credit. It's quite extreme. There's a complete difference between animal cruelty and eating an animal. To treat them equally is ridiculous.
schrei jess
February 16th, 2007, 11:33 PM
Why is that? I dont see why treating them equally would be a bad thing, some animals are pretty darn smart - though I know many are not. But they are capable of doing a lot more than we give them credit for.
Maverick
February 17th, 2007, 01:07 AM
Treating them equally wouldnt make sense because they aren't equal. They can do things but not equally to a human. We eat them for survival. We don't eat humans for survival so it's illogical to see animals as equals. I'm not saying animals don't matter and animal cruelty is ok because they aren't equal, but to say they are equal to humans going too extreme across that line. It's too extreme. Animals are not humans therefore shouldn't be treated as such.
Hyper
February 17th, 2007, 06:30 AM
Yes and as some1 said plants feel 'pain' also.. Perhaps we should study them for another century to find out what are good conditions for them ;P
Underground_Network
February 17th, 2007, 08:49 AM
meats goood and besides.. if we dont eat them.. who will lol..
Yeah i agree meat tastes good, but i'm against the mistreatment of animals, and i think as long as they are killed peacefully its ok. And to answer the question of who will eat them if we don't; Probably other animals, if we didn't care for chickens at farms, they would eventually get eaten by wolves and other predators, and same goes for other livestock, including animals as big as cows. These animals will still be killed in a more painful way and they will be ripped apart. The death rate of these animals may decrease, but they will still continue to die. The only way to prevent chickens from dying would be to kill every human and animal in existence and all but one chicken. All animals can convert to cannibalism if there is nothing to eat, and chickens may converge on each other. Humans kill each other, too. Hunting is just a natural part of life, as well as eating meat. Eating meat is an addiction. Truthfully i kind of wish i could stop, but it just tastes so good. I regularly eat lots of nonmeat things, but i usually can't go more than a week without meat. I mean i'm already really skinny and i eat like 6 meals a day. I don't think i personally could live without meat, but i will admit i've probably shed a tear while eating chicken or hamburger, thinking about the poor animal's life, but then i think it's a hunt or be hunted world, and we eat what we like. DO YOU THINK A WOLF CARES WHEN IT RIPS APART A CHICKEN??
Hyper
February 17th, 2007, 11:10 AM
Yeah i agree meat tastes good, but i'm against the mistreatment of animals, and i think as long as they are killed peacefully its ok. And to answer the question of who will eat them if we don't; Probably other animals, if we didn't care for chickens at farms, they would eventually get eaten by wolves and other predators, and same goes for other livestock, including animals as big as cows. These animals will still be killed in a more painful way and they will be ripped apart. The death rate of these animals may decrease, but they will still continue to die. The only way to prevent chickens from dying would be to kill every human and animal in existence and all but one chicken. All animals can convert to cannibalism if there is nothing to eat, and chickens may converge on each other. Humans kill each other, too. Hunting is just a natural part of life, as well as eating meat. Eating meat is an addiction. Truthfully i kind of wish i could stop, but it just tastes so good. I regularly eat lots of nonmeat things, but i usually can't go more than a week without meat. I mean i'm already really skinny and i eat like 6 meals a day. I don't think i personally could live without meat, but i will admit i've probably shed a tear while eating chicken or hamburger, thinking about the poor animal's life, but then i think it's a hunt or be hunted world, and we eat what we like. DO YOU THINK A WOLF CARES WHEN IT RIPS APART A CHICKEN??
See my friend the fact is the animals that we grow to kill couldn't efficiently survive in the wild because they are bred.. BRED to be grown for food purposes.. And if you shed a tear while eating a chicken or a hamburger then .... xD
Glasgow
February 17th, 2007, 11:30 AM
i disagree, i think because we are highest on the food chain we have the right to eat what we want.
For the first time ever, I agree with you
Underground_Network
February 17th, 2007, 11:34 AM
Yeah good point. If we didn't eat certain animals, the truth is they wouldn't be afraid of us, and quite possibly, we'd be lower on the food chain.
EDIT: Oh yeah, btw i don't shed a tear now, i was referring to when i was younger. It's tough when your in like say 2nd grade and you're learning about animals and you're fascinated by them, and then you learn that that cow that goes moo, stops mooing, and gets killed just so we can eat it. Back when i was younger that upset me, and it still sort of does but nowhere near on the same scale.
Activate
February 18th, 2007, 01:02 AM
It's the 21st century, we dont HAVE to eat meat. There are so many alternatives for iron and other vitamins in meat.
serial-thrilla
February 18th, 2007, 01:23 AM
meat tastes good, thats why i along with the rest of the world eat it. i dont mind vegetarians but you guys should respect our right to consume meat. saying stuff like "meat is murder" is really silly.
Ethannnnnn
February 18th, 2007, 03:23 AM
Experts agree that plants can in fact feel pain, which makes it wrong for them to be consumed. But don't despair, humans really needn't eat anything other than their young.
If every woman on the planet got pregnant right now, we would have 3 billion little bundles of fat and meat to feed the world. And two months later the whole process can be started anew.
"But Lt. Col. Environment, what will we eat before the babies are ready?"
Great question, Cindy. The mammalian digestive system is shockingly inefficient compared to other creatures'. So inefficient that we can recycle our urine and feces for months on end.
If we follow those two mind numbingly easy steps, absolutely no other species on the planet has to be inconvienced in any way whatsoever
looks like someone forgot to take there crazy pills this morning:yes:
Sapphire
February 18th, 2007, 06:26 AM
It is natural for us to eat meat. It is natural for us to eat vegetation. Why do you think we have both canines and molars?
I respect vegetarians decisions, but its when they start going round preaching that I am guilty of murder and telling me how to live my life thats when I get really wound up. No one has the right to tell another person that they are living incorrectly or are going down the wrong path. Life is not black and white.
If you don't want to eat meat then don't. But what you absolutely shouldn't do is preach to those of us who do eat meat. You want your opinions the be respected then respect those that are different from yours.
Underground_Network
February 18th, 2007, 08:41 AM
If you enjoy meat so much people, why not eat your own feet? See what they taste like. Your feet contain meat. Yum. LOL, anyway, if we train animals to kill other animals for us, then technically we wouldn't be killing the animals, but we would be able to eat them. =P
Maverick
February 18th, 2007, 08:55 AM
If you enjoy meat so much people, why not eat your own feet? See what they taste like. Your feet contain meat. Yum. LOL, anyway, if we train animals to kill other animals for us, then technically we wouldn't be killing the animals, but we would be able to eat them. =P
Oh yes because any meat eater likes every kind of meat that exists..:rolleyes:
Underground_Network
February 18th, 2007, 09:03 AM
Hey i'm a meat eater, too. I'm just saying! Why not? According to serial killer Albert Fish the most delicious part of the human body is the ass.
Maverick
February 18th, 2007, 09:41 AM
I'd prefer not to take advice from a serial killer.
sam91
February 18th, 2007, 09:41 AM
It is natural for us to eat meat. It is natural for us to eat vegetation. Why do you think we have both canines and molars?
I respect vegetarians decisions, but its when they start going round preaching that I am guilty of murder and telling me how to live my life thats when I get really wound up. No one has the right to tell another person that they are living incorrectly or are going down the wrong path. Life is not black and white.
If you don't want to eat meat then don't. But what you absolutely shouldn't do is preach to those of us who do eat meat. You want your opinions the be respected then respect those that are different from yours.
i completely agree!!!!! if u have in opinion about something thats fine we all do, but its when u go around trying to make people feel bad for their opinion that it crosses the line. i mean come on im an animal lover and i still eat meat and its really sad how some of the animals are treated, but come on ur acting as if eating meat is a horrible thing. and if plants can feel pain than why dont we start protesting to help them why were at it? i know why because at a certain point it just gets rediculous!!!! and i for one am tired of vegetarians tellin me im a murderer. my best friend is a vegetarian and she respects my choice in eating meat and i respect hers in not. so why dont we all lay off calling each other names like murderer and just get along.
chelsea714
February 18th, 2007, 01:19 PM
It is natural for us to eat meat. It is natural for us to eat vegetation. Why do you think we have both canines and molars?
I respect vegetarians decisions, but its when they start going round preaching that I am guilty of murder and telling me how to live my life thats when I get really wound up. No one has the right to tell another person that they are living incorrectly or are going down the wrong path. Life is not black and white.
If you don't want to eat meat then don't. But what you absolutely shouldn't do is preach to those of us who do eat meat. You want your opinions the be respected then respect those that are different from yours.
hey I definitely agree with you except how you say that no body has to right to tell another person they are going down the wrong path...if you have a friend that is succumbing to drug addiction you do have the right to tell them that. but anyways,yeah the other day some vegan told me I'm evil for eating CHEESE and compared eating dairy products to RAPE. I just about nearly bit his head off
thesphinx
February 18th, 2007, 02:49 PM
i eat meat and theres nothing wrong with eating meat, its when the meat your eating is being treated bad like kfc there chickens live horrible lives, thats why i buy organic beef thats from a local farmer who loves is cows very much.
chelsea714
February 18th, 2007, 03:06 PM
well the thing is, it's not JUST KFC. why does everybody single out KFC? It's every fast food chain, it's every super market, unless you buy locally grown family farm meat
schrei jess
February 18th, 2007, 03:09 PM
I guess people missed my post explaining why they single out KFC.
Peta has had private investigators go and work at KFC's factories and they found out how they treat their chickens - HORRIBLY. They found all the evidence and brought it public, that is why people single out KFC because it is now commonly known how they treat their chickens, they live in the worst conditions and are treated terribly. They havent gone to every fast food chain or grocery store, so they cant just make the same accusations without the evidence. They have evidence on KFC, therefore they can say they are murderers.
Activate
February 18th, 2007, 03:29 PM
I guess people missed my post explaining why they single out KFC.
Peta has had private investigators go and work at KFC's factories and they found out how they treat their chickens - HORRIBLY. They found all the evidence and brought it public, that is why people single out KFC because it is now commonly known how they treat their chickens, they live in the worst conditions and are treated terribly. They havent gone to every fast food chain or grocery store, so they cant just make the same accusations without the evidence. They have evidence on KFC, therefore they can say they are murderers.
They treat them worse than broiler chickens, they keep them in small cages, they do VERY bad things I don't want to discuss..
As for everyone saying they eat meat, its fine with me, theres just other guys on VT saying all the crap and its making me look like a hater.
schrei jess
February 18th, 2007, 03:31 PM
They treat them worse than broiler chickens, they keep them in small cages, they do VERY bad things I don't want to discuss..
As for everyone saying they eat meat, its fine with me, theres just other guys on VT saying all the crap and its making me look like a hater.
Trust me, I know Brody - Ive seen and read all about it, Im not to keen on even thinking about it right now. It's terrible how they are treated.
And I know where you are coming from, I feel the same way. I dont really have a problem with other people eating meat, but that doesnt mean Ill stop trying to change it.
Activate
February 18th, 2007, 03:35 PM
I've tried, and didn't change a single persons mind. So I gave up.
The only person i've seen changed some people is GayGod :P
BillyWitchDoctor.com
February 18th, 2007, 03:38 PM
dont take this personally anybody who's a vegitarian/vegan, but humans are animals. we as well as other animals have been eating other animals form billions of years. its how nature works, there are differnet energy levels in what foods you eat and it IS survival of the fittest. We are the dominants so we may choose to either eat what we like or protect those weaker than us. Protecting animals is a great thing and i hate to see animals killled for no reason, but you have to accept that killing animals for food isnt murder. i hate people who get real animal fur coats or that stuff, but its differnet with food. those people who like dont drink milk because they think milking a cow is bad, well stop being stupid. if u dont milk a cow, they die, then need that milk to be removed. u can get the necessary protein from plants but its so much harder and inneficiant than eating meat. its part of our nature to eat other animals and i think its wrong for people to go against this. you got here in the first place to make this ideas through people origioinally eating meat. also, what would happen to the population of animals if we didnt eat them? it'd skyrocket. a couple years ago, in some states the deer population got too high so people went out and hunted deer to lower the population to keep everything in balence
one thing though, i dont like to eat any meat that i know has been like treated badly. i dont like eating that meat (forget the name of it) thats basically just really tender cus they cows arent allowed to move so lots of muscle turns to just like meat
schrei jess
February 18th, 2007, 03:39 PM
I've tried, and didn't change a single persons mind. So I gave up.
The only person i've seen changed some people is GayGod :P
Boy do I love GayGod =) Hell, he could tell me to go jump off a cliff and Id do it, so of course he's going to change people's minds about eating meat and using animal products. He's convincing me to go Vegan even xDD
Ive changed one person so far, that would be Cole, and Im so proud of him. IF you keep at it, you can make a difference Brody, you can!
Sapphire
February 18th, 2007, 04:07 PM
But, who are you to preach to others about eating meat that could have been obtained humanely? As far as I'm aware the only research that has provided any proof has been into fast food restaurants. What about everywhere else? There are places that sell and prepare meat from humanely treated animals.
When people stop preaching, I will start listening.
BillyWitchDoctor.com
February 18th, 2007, 04:44 PM
might've missed it, but i didnt see anybody preaching against humanely treated animals being prepared and eaten. basically, if the animals are treated well during their life,not neglected thinking oh, they gonna die anyway and are kept healthy, warm in the winter etc. and are fed well, whats wrong with that. they are killed yes, but they're gonna die anyway. i dont like people goingi against eating animals becasue they're in the position to do so. u dont see 3rd world countries being vegitarians, no because they need to get the nutrients essential for their body so they need to eat meat, they dont have the time to go about searching for plants that would substitute meat
Hyper
February 18th, 2007, 06:07 PM
hey I definitely agree with you except how you say that no body has to right to tell another person they are going down the wrong path...if you have a friend that is succumbing to drug addiction you do have the right to tell them that. but anyways,yeah the other day some vegan told me I'm evil for eating CHEESE and compared eating dairy products to RAPE. I just about nearly bit his head off
OMG! What does eating yoghurt make me? Drinking milk? Etc...?
chelsea714
February 18th, 2007, 10:35 PM
hyper, you are satan :P
Makod
February 19th, 2007, 12:07 AM
When people stop preaching, I will start listening.
Mmmm... but what will you listen to then?
By the way, anyone in the mood for veal? I know I am.
Maverick
February 19th, 2007, 12:08 AM
She just said she would listen to them when they stopped preaching.
Makod
February 19th, 2007, 12:09 AM
She just said she would listen to them when they stopped preaching.
But if they ain't preaching, they aren't going to be saying much, eh?
It doesn't matter, this is not the discussion at hand.
Maverick
February 19th, 2007, 12:10 AM
Lol thats true.
Edit: now that I think about it, they can explain of the horrible conditions of the animals to make us aware. That's different than calling us murderers and make it seem like were horrible people.
Activate
February 19th, 2007, 01:06 AM
For the person who said the population of animals will sky-rocket. Hellooo most animals are farmed, it wouldn't do to much damage.
Fiending_the_freedom
February 19th, 2007, 01:49 AM
i could NEVER be vergatrian, i like food too much,
and i'm too stuborn for anyone to convince me to become vegatrian,
in the middle of watching Supersize me, i paused it, went out and got mcdonalds because it made me hungry [back when i liked Mcdonalds]
Hyper
February 19th, 2007, 07:28 AM
For the person who said the population of animals will sky-rocket. Hellooo most animals are farmed, it wouldn't do to much damage.
What is the point of farming if you dont eat? You'd still have to controll animal population ;P
Underground_Network
February 19th, 2007, 07:44 AM
She just said she would listen to them when they stopped preaching.
What the original person who said this meant, was when they provide them with actual facts, and stop just saying that it's wrong they'll listen. They want fact, not opinion.
Maverick
February 19th, 2007, 08:15 AM
I knew what she meant.
Underground_Network
February 19th, 2007, 08:31 AM
OK, just clarifying for other people, sorry you never said you did, or at least i did not notice you saying that you knew.
BillyWitchDoctor.com
February 19th, 2007, 11:32 AM
ok, not all animals we eat are farmed, 1, and 2, i guess the vegans and the vegitarians arent gonna eat them. so if nobody's eatin them the animals just sit there and breed over time. solution, limit breeding.....but then WHAT?? UR KILLING POSSIBLE BABY ANIMALS BY LIIMITING BREEDING. UR THE DEVIL. i hate all those goddamn people who think that like everything done to animals is hateful, evil and bad. some animals are treated horribly and i hate to see an animal mistreated
Activate
February 21st, 2007, 10:07 PM
You don't see people nowadays going out to the bush to shoot a chicken to take to the local butcher to sell.. And plus, why does it matter? I'm happy being vegetarian and if someone eats meat good for them, if they try to get me to eat meat I won't be happy.
BillyWitchDoctor.com
February 22nd, 2007, 02:37 PM
i dont like preaching about shit and trying to convert people to doing what i do, i gues i cant say much cus im kinda the opposite of u Brody. Im very happy eating meat and im not too upset by people thinking being a vegitarian is better. but if someone were telling me what im doing is wrong and tellin me i should b a vegitarian id be pretty pissed
Activate
February 23rd, 2007, 12:34 AM
i dont like preaching about shit and trying to convert people to doing what i do, i gues i cant say much cus im kinda the opposite of u Brody. Im very happy eating meat and im not too upset by people thinking being a vegitarian is better. but if someone were telling me what im doing is wrong and tellin me i should b a vegitarian id be pretty pissed
I never want to try and 'convert' someone to eat meat. It's their choice in life.
Maverick
February 23rd, 2007, 12:49 AM
So it's our choice to be murderers?
Sapphire
February 23rd, 2007, 05:17 AM
That is a blinkered view Anthony.
I am not a murderer, but I do eat meat. I am not an evil bitch because I enjoy a bit of chicken, beef, pork etc.
If eating meat is so wrong then why do you think we all have a pair of canines?
Underground_Network
February 23rd, 2007, 09:42 AM
If you do not kill the meat but eat the meat, you are not a murderer, the same goes for humans. If a human kills a human and someone else eats (cannibalism) the human, they may faces charges, but not murder charges. Eating meat does not make you a murderer, killing the actual animal does, and you could always claim euthanasia...
My_Toes_Are_Cold
February 23rd, 2007, 10:12 AM
If you want to be a vegetarian, knock yourself out. But don't be like a Christian or those jihadists, and keep it to yourself.
Underground_Network
February 23rd, 2007, 10:23 AM
Don't call meat-eaters killers. I could never eat meat, if I was the one that killed it, it may sound strange, but if I killed it I probably wouldn't eat it (that would make me one horrible hunter), but if someone else killed it I wouldn't have a problem with eating it. I don't mind vegetarians, as a matter of fact I admire, no, envy them. I wish I could stop eating meat but I can't. We're not all sadistic bastards, you don't want us to stereotype you? Then don't stereotype us!
Lt.Col.Environment
February 23rd, 2007, 03:44 PM
KFC = rats
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/23/ap/strange/mainD8NFGV5O0.shtml
lawl
Underground_Network
February 23rd, 2007, 03:58 PM
Stay on topic? Although KFC was the original idea of this thread, it is really now focusing on the ideals of vegetarians and meat-eaters. KFC really has nothing to do with this thread any more... But then again, I expect nothing less from you Lieutenant.
I read the article, and its interesting, but has even less to do with this thread then I surmised. Although I guess how sanitary KFC is, sort of has to do with us... but still this is a mostly useless piece of information in terms of its effect upon this thread. Ah, but I digress.
Lt.Col.Environment
February 23rd, 2007, 04:55 PM
you Lieutenant.
That's Lieutenant COLONEL, I didn't spend twenty years in the military to be called a lowly lieutenant.
But on the subject of meatism v. vegism.
The fact of the matter is that if the millions upon millions of livestock around today were to be reintroduced into the environment, the results would be disastrous (i.e. I'd get really pissed off.)
But it's wrong for humans to consume anything other than their feces or their young, so we're left with a paradox. Do we break the ultimate taboo and eat these innocent creatures, or do we let them ruin whole ecosystems with their ravenous grass eating?
My solution is to have an epic barbeque of unparalleled proportions, but not let anyone eat any of the meat. That way I get to kill a bunch of stuff and not feel guilty because of humans enjoying the results.
Sapphire
February 23rd, 2007, 04:59 PM
The fact of the matter is that if the millions upon millions of livestock around today were to be reintroduced into the environment, the results would be disastrous (i.e. I'd get really pissed off.)
But it's wrong for humans to consume anything other than their feces or their young, so we're left with a paradox. Do we break the ultimate taboo and eat these innocent creatures, or do we let them ruin whole ecosystems with their ravenous grass eating?
My solution is to have an epic barbeque of unparalleled proportions, but not let anyone eat any of the meat. That way I get to kill a bunch of stuff and not feel guilty because humans are enjoying the results.
So, to save the animals we should all get pregnant then kill and eat our babies? Fuck off. You are one weird, fucked up freak. And what have you contributed of any relevance or significance? Absolute jack shit, that's what.
To everyone else, I apologise for my language.
Underground_Network
February 23rd, 2007, 05:03 PM
Speechless, utterly speechless...
Underground_Network
February 23rd, 2007, 06:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dScutbJpHoA&mode=related&search=
This not only made me cry, it almost turned me into a vegetarian. Its a music video by rise against. I suggest those with light stomachs do not watch. It contains a kitten being placed in an oven, a dog being placed in a garbage truck, and it shows the slaughter of piglets (i'm never eating any pig-related products again).
Dante
February 23rd, 2007, 09:22 PM
kfc does not equal murder, we are omnivorous creatures, so we wat both plants and animals, that is how we survive.
Surviving and murder are 2 different things.
So putting a cat in a microwave and a dog in a garbage truck, is in no way the same thing.
Activate
February 24th, 2007, 05:14 AM
kfc does not equal murder, we are omnivorous creatures, so we wat both plants and animals, that is how we survive.
But people make different choices in life. Its how the world revolves.
Aηdy
February 24th, 2007, 07:19 AM
That's Lieutenant COLONEL, I didn't spend twenty years in the military to be called a lowly lieutenant.
How are you 19 if you spent twenty years in the military? You would have to have been at least like 17 to even join.
Activate
February 24th, 2007, 07:39 AM
How are you 19 if you spent twenty years in the military? You would have to have been at least like 17 to even join.
Hes a liar, he shouldn't be on VT because he never helps to topics and even if he does help everything he says is false or makes no sense.
Underground_Network
February 24th, 2007, 08:01 AM
Its obvious... He joined the military before he was born... But back on topic, that video showed things other than the kitten and dog, like how little chickies, and piggies were treated, and I feel really bad for them... And did you ever hear of black market meat?
Maverick
February 24th, 2007, 11:24 AM
How are you 19 if you spent twenty years in the military? You would have to have been at least like 17 to even join.
I don't think he was being serious about the 20 year thing.
Underground_Network
February 24th, 2007, 12:13 PM
He's a freaking nutjob! Has anyone realized that yet? Either that or hes a mutated squirrel robot bent on destroying the world by making us think we're all screwed, thus speeding up Globabl Warming and all other processes detramental to this Earth. EEK NOW I'M GOING CRAZY TOO! GO CHICKENS!
Lt.Col.Environment
February 24th, 2007, 12:23 PM
Close, I'm a malevolent transdimensional being that feeds off human fear and ignorance. Oh yeah, Wanderer and Brody, grow up.
Back to the subject of factory farming, in my experience I've found that the living conditions that many livestock are subjected to these days closely mirrors contemporary urban life. I mean, when was the last time some of you guys have seen sunlight?
But that doesn't make it right, we should just put all the livestock out of their misery right now, violently if necessary.
But I don't see a problem with humans staying the way they are, it makes them more complacent... easier to manipulate.... bwahahahahahahahahah!!!!
Underground_Network
February 24th, 2007, 12:27 PM
I just have one question: Can you see the future; and/or are you from the future?
Sapphire
February 24th, 2007, 01:50 PM
Why do we put up with him? He's off his rocker and makes the rest of us look as sane as they come!
Jamz
February 27th, 2007, 12:01 AM
Experts agree that plants can in fact feel pain, which makes it wrong for them to be consumed. But don't despair, humans really needn't eat anything other than their young.
If every woman on the planet got pregnant right now, we would have 3 billion little bundles of fat and meat to feed the world. And two months later the whole process can be started anew.
"But Lt. Col. Environment, what will we eat before the babies are ready?"
Great question, Cindy. The mammalian digestive system is shockingly inefficient compared to other creatures'. So inefficient that we can recycle our urine and feces for months on end.
If we follow those two mind numbingly easy steps, absolutely no other species on the planet has to be inconvienced in any way whatsoever
If every women on the planet got pregnant, that would include my 3 year old niece, aswell as my 4 month old niece... Which is impossible....
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