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TSRHChronic
July 2nd, 2011, 12:51 AM
After reading these posts, I'm shocked. Are marijuana, cocaine, and alcohol really that big of a deal? I have a question for you: When did America suddenly change from the land of the free. People should be able to make their own decisions without constant criticism from others. That's my take.
deadpie
July 2nd, 2011, 01:15 PM
Alcohol and cocaine are a big deal yes, because I've seen it ruin people's lives very quickly.
Marijuana? Nah man. It can make some people really boring though because they're too chilled out to do anything with you (Hurrrr me) . That's not anything bad though.
Dimitri
July 2nd, 2011, 01:18 PM
There is no place that is truely free for if it was then mass choas would occur
Cheri J
July 2nd, 2011, 01:56 PM
I would say yes to cocaine and alcohol. They both can kill a person. I think that is a pretty big deal. What if your best friend was addicted to cocaine for three years and died. You might think differently. And for those people who grow up in homes with alcoholics who drink so much that they pass out on the couch every night and can't take a shower by themselves, alcohol is a problem and they are addicted. Would you want that person to continue doing whatever they wanted, even if it was harming themselves?
Marijuana on the other hand i would say is not a big deal (most of the time anyway). It doesn't kill people, and even with the effects of weed a person can still make descent choices. My boyfriend had a problem with it and he wouldn't quit and chose to spend his time and money on pot rather than me. But that was his choice, the marijuana didn't make him choose to stay at home rather than go to the movies with me. However, it can become a problem, but most of the time doesn't.
User Deleted
July 2nd, 2011, 02:55 PM
Well about the drugs has been answered so... you cant expect anybody to not criticize. Criticism is actually important believe it or not. It helps people make better decisions often.
TSRHChronic
July 3rd, 2011, 07:27 AM
I'm just saying, I've tried it all and still been able to walk away from it and live a normal life. It's all conditional to the person. That doesn't mean that the government should try to tell us what we can and can't do with our own bodies. We aren't hurting anybody other than ourselves.
Magenta
July 3rd, 2011, 01:46 PM
I'm just saying, I've tried it all and still been able to walk away from it and live a normal life. It's all conditional to the person. That doesn't mean that the government should try to tell us what we can and can't do with our own bodies. We aren't hurting anybody other than ourselves.
Except for the families of cocaine addicts and other addicts. The families that have to see their children wither away in front of them. The families whose belongings are often pawned off and money stolen to feed an addiction that isn't theirs.
Using drugs has consequences for everyone whether the drug user knows it or not. In the end, yes, it is their body and their decision but people, like the government, try to prevent things from happening. It costs them money to pay for the hospitals and resources drug users use when sick or overdosed. It costs them money to provide police to keep the streets safer from drug-induced violence that often leads to innocent bystanders suffering by accident. Trust me, it costs them millions of dollars and if they weren't concerned for the wellbeing of people, they'd cut all those costs and we'd all be free to wreak whatever havoc we like, smoke up whatever we want and stuff like that.
Personally, I'm highly anti-drug because I've seen what addictions do to families. I've seen highly intelligent students waste their lives because they wanted to do drugs and I know they regret that decision.
Precautions are always put in place for a reason.
EDIT: As for marijuana... eh. I don't know. Unless it's spiked with something, my only complaint is the smell and people smoking it around me.
Lethe
July 3rd, 2011, 03:13 PM
Does the land of the free factor in rapists, murderers, serial killers, child molesters, thiefs, hackers and slavers? Should all of these people be allowed to be free, just because America is the "land of the free"?
There are certain laws for a reason. Allowing a dangerous drug such as cocaine to be legal would be sending hundreds of thousands of people to their deaths. Allowing minors to legally drink alcohol would breed millions of alcoholics. You make laws against certain practices to protect those that don't wish to make those bad choices. Society has laws because laws create order. Without order, there is nothing. Do you prefer nothingness and chaos to order? To safety?
Scoob
July 3rd, 2011, 07:37 PM
1. Rapists, murders, etc. Are not factored into this. How you think you can even bring that into this I don't know. I'm as Liberal as it gets. Laws should be centered around protecting people from harming others but as for what you do to yourself is totally up to you.
2. Saying that if alcohol was legal to minors would lead to tons of drunks is absurd. I lived in Europe for years. Alcohol is considered no big deal because they don't treat it like how Americans do. They don't restrict it so when people in Europe turn 21 they don't go out and get plastered because they can.
3. All drugs should be legal. No one wakes up in the morning just thinking they're gonna snort a couple grams of cocaine. If they are already thinking that then what is really stopping them? Believe it or not some kids have access to mass quantities of drugs.
4. Legalizing all drugs would stop much of the organized crime in the world. The backbone of Australian crime is marijuana. Legalizing that would decimate the crime syndicate there.
Oh and people, this guy is simply saying that people have full rights to do whatever the hell they want with their body, he's not preaching anarchy so stop looking at it that way.
deadpie
July 4th, 2011, 03:44 PM
Does the land of the free factor in rapists, murderers, serial killers, child molesters, thiefs, hackers and slavers? Should all of these people be allowed to be free, just because America is the "land of the free"?
How dare you put addicts in with people who cause violence or cause trouble on others. Most addicts don't hurt other people. The most they're hurting are themselves. Trust me, I'm one of them and I've spent my entire life surrounded by other addicts.
Sordid Saint
July 10th, 2011, 12:27 AM
How dare you put addicts in with people who cause violence or cause trouble on others. Most addicts don't hurt other people. The most they're hurting are themselves. Trust me, I'm one of them and I've spent my entire life surrounded by other addicts.
This. I have never gotten into trouble with the government for violence. Addicts are not someone you are scared of, they're someone you should be scared FOR. Cocaine is not as big of a deal as people think it is. There aren't even that bad of withdraws as there are with other drugs like painkillers and opiates. I've never been addicted to cocaine but yes I have used it many times. I have been addicted to percocets though and those are not fun to withdraw from. But anyway, not once have I majorly acted in violence even under the effect of drugs and I do not think I should be on a list that groups me together with murders
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