Death penalty in my state?

[dannyhendon]

Im 13 and at school we have been learning about our states laws and stuff. I think it kinda sucks here! Our state is making the death penalty more used from next year so rape and even the first murder means you get the dewy penalty!

Why do they want to do it more?? In my state like 100 people got it in like one year.

[DerBear]

Taking this post down

[thebassguy]

I don't completely agree with that. I agree with you...sorta. I mean people screw up. That's a fact. Maybe they don't deserve a second chance, maybe they do. I don't really know. Anyway, I think they should at LEAST go to prison for a couple years. If they do it again I think that they deserve the lethal injection. As for those creepy serial killers or serial rapists, they deserve the lethal injection. Now.

[thebgsamuel]

cutting their dick is enough they wont rape anyone after that!
but i think the death penalty is a bit hard prison for life makes them suffer and think about their act. but they wont ever come out of prison and die in prison!

[Death]

GOOD RAPISTS SHOULD DIE BUT FIRST THEY SHOULD IF IT IS A MAN HAVE THEIR DICK CUT OFF AND THEN KILLED AND IF IT IS A WOMAN WELL I CAN NOT THINK OF SOMETHING HORRIBLE RIGHT NOW BUT I WILL THINK OF SOMETHING LATER

and this is coming from a guy

Trololololol.

I see you've found your disable rep button alright. Probably a good call.

As for this monstrosity dragging back humanity to the dark ages that we label the "death penalty", I've posted a shitload of arguments against it here (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102256&page=15).

So...

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[DerBear]

Trololololol.

I see you've found your disable rep button alright. Probably a good call.

As for this monstrosity dragging back humanity to the dark ages that we label the "death penalty", I've posted a shitload of arguments against it here (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102256&page=15).

So...

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my rep has been disabled since day 1 and that was my honest opinon on that topic and i belive it was an actual thing that used to happen in amongs certian religous belfies

so that was not a troll and the reason i used uper case was because i typed the first sentance in upercase and i thoguht it looked good and outstanding so you know

[Philleeep]

this is my genuine view :- no one can change it, i believe in peace and death sentences is not peace.

under no circumstances should anyone receive death other than natural causes or accident/natural disaster. what is the point in killing a killer, its an easy way out of not getting punished, maybe there was a reason for their doing and they wanted to die so they commit these crimes, people wrongly accused are killed, there is often delays in the date of their death and people go insane from these delays so they have already been punished, family's go through stress and even close family members can go insane, should the family be punished as well? I believe a good quote is needed, "an eye for an eye and the whole world would be blind." kill a killer and the whole world would be dead.........

[Jess]

death is too much of an easy way out. Murderers should spend life time in prison (ESPECIALLY if they killed more than one person) and rapists (especially if they raped a child or did it multiple times) a really long one. I sometimes think killers deserve to die but then I think, aren't we killers ourselves if we kill them? Yeah, I'm pretty much against the death penalty now...

[Death]

my rep has been disabled since day 1 and that was my honest opinon on that topic and i belive it was an actual thing that used to happen in amongs certian religous belfies

so that was not a troll and the reason i used uper case was because i typed the first sentance in upercase and i thoguht it looked good and outstanding so you know

All caps? Asinine barbarism whilst hiding behind religion? No, you are definetely a troll. No-one's this stupid.

death is too much of an easy way out. Murderers should spend life time in prison (ESPECIALLY if they killed more than one person) and rapists (especially if they raped a child or did it multiple times) a really long one. I sometimes think killers deserve to die but then I think, aren't we killers ourselves if we kill them? Yeah, I'm pretty much against the death penalty now...

This, and thankyou. Just like what my signiture says, and yet it deserves reiterating.

[Perseus]

All caps? Asinine barbarism whilst hiding behind religion? No, you are definetely a troll. No-one's this stupid.




I don't care if this is off topic or not, but learn what a fucking troll is. All you do is use that word liberally as fuck. Learn the definition. Not everyone who has different opinion of you is a troll. And inb4 I'm a troll. Find new words.


My opinion (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showpost.php?p=1261150&postcount=13) on the matter.

[RoseyCadaver]

I don't believe in the death penatily.It just shows how barbaric we still are.Besides ,even though I'm not a big fan of revenge,a life of prison(heard from first hand from people I know)is worse then death.I can see why it is.So no,I don't believe in the death penatily.Easy way out and who are we to say who lives.Simple.




Side note:Is it me,or does it seem once a death penalty thread dies,a new one arises :confused:?

[Death]

I don't care if this is off topic or not, but learn what a fucking troll is. All you do is use that word liberally as fuck. Learn the definition. Not everyone who has different opinion of you is a troll. And inb4 I'm a troll.

You obviously haven't seen some of his other posts. But are you suggesting for one moment that there is some sense in his post?

Find new words.

Oh I'm sorry, I forgot you were the unquestionable king of humanity.

I don't believe in the death penatily.It just shows how barbaric we still are.Besides ,even though I'm not a big fan of revenge,a life of prison(heard from first hand from people I know)is worse then death.I can see why it is.So no,I don't believe in the death penatily.Easy way out and who are we to say who lives.Simple.

This, and it explains why those who go on shootings end up killing themselves at the end.

Side note:Is it me,or does it seem once a death penalty thread dies,a new one arises :confused:?

It's probably a matter of people not bothering to search through forums.

[Perseus]

You obviously haven't seen some of his other posts. But are you suggesting for one moment that there is some sense in his post? It doesn't matter. It's his opinion; doesn't make him a troll.



Oh I'm sorry, I forgot you were the unquestionable king of humanity.
I'm sorry saying "find new words" insults your intelligence.

[Bimmerhead]

It doesn't matter. It's his opinion; doesn't make him a troll.
+1



I'm sorry saying "find new words" insults your intelligence.

Another thread exactly like the last one... Same people fighting and on the first page too! Dont waste you breath here dude trust me!

[SosbanFach]

I can't help but notice that 3 out of 4 people who oppose the death penalty here are British, and in this country we don't use it. (I say 3/4 because I disagree with it as well, it seems barbaric to me, and is not at all appropriate in the 21st century. Ever heard the phrase "two wrongs don't make a right"? In fact, Death's signature sums it up nicely!)

[Death]

It doesn't matter. It's his opinion; doesn't make him a troll.

I was more getting at the way he put it and the plain disgusting detail he went into rather than the general gist of his opinion.

I'm sorry saying "find new words" insults your intelligence.

I'm not insulted, but more curious as to why you believe that:

1. I call everyone a troll when we disagree on something.
2. Why you think that I think that my intelligence is in question.

(but mostly the first)

[SosbanFach]

Can we drop this argument? It's not getting anywhere, and it's pointless

[Jess]

uh yeah let's get back on topic


This guy (Poplawski) in my city killed three police officers, and he might get the lethal injection. I really hope he gets life in prison though. absolutely no parole.

[Lethe]

The death penalty doesn't really solve anything. You're killing the criminal; that means he does not have to face the consequences of the choices he has made. Life in prison without parole is more effective (though marginally so) because the person spends the rest of their existence in a place where they are punished for what they have done. Some criminals may find it more or less a neutral experience (no good but no bad either) and may not feel guilty about their crimes either; but when you imprison a person in a cell for the rest of their life, their lack of freedom is probably not something they look forward to.

[Death]

The death penalty doesn't really solve anything. You're killing the criminal; that means he does not have to face the consequences of the choices he has made. Life in prison without parole is more effective (though marginally so) because the person spends the rest of their existence in a place where they are punished for what they have done. Some criminals may find it more or less a neutral experience (no good but no bad either) and may not feel guilty about their crimes either; but when you imprison a person in a cell for the rest of their life, their lack of freedom is probably not something they look forward to.

This.

Another thread exactly like the last one... Same people fighting and on the first page too! Dont waste you breath here dude trust me!

Why do I get the sense you're making another pointless dig at me?

[Jess]

okay I read this article in the newspaper today about how life is far less restricted for lifers (those with life imprisonment) than for death-row inmates (where I live). I don't know if it's like that in other states and countries. I just want to know what everyone else thinks of this.

Richard Poplawski will either get life in prison or the death penalty for killing three police officers

if he gets life in prison:

he can work a prison job making shoes or soap
play intramural sports
have a cellmate
enjoy the warm embrace of a visiting relative


Death penalty:

22 hours of each day in the solitude of his cell
take meals from a tray forced through a slot on the door
exercise alone in a cage
speak to family only by phone, looking at them through a glass partition



Death-row inmates can have a TV and reading materials but often must relinquish items such as razors and eating utensils after each use. They use flexible pens that can't be made into weapons, while their counterparts serving life use the real thing.

Capital case inmates dine alone. They visit a law library alone.

Lifers can eat with other prisoners, can visit with loved ones in relaxed supervision of a visitors' room and can do so every day of the year, sometimes for more than two hours.

Those facing execution are allowed just one visit per week and are limited to a max of two hours. They get just one 15-min phone call per week

[Death]

We should pehaps change the standards of living for cases like murderers and rapists. That way, they'll be less inclined to commit their crimes.

[Spock]

i think all states should have the death penalty but they dont by the way the make them so harsh because ppl will learn not to do it

[huginnmuninn]

Death-row inmates can have a TV and reading materials but often must relinquish items such as razors and eating utensils after each use. They use flexible pens that can't be made into weapons, while their counterparts serving life use the real thing.

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wait are you saying this is a bad thing that they cant have those things? or are you saying lifers should have the same restrictions or what? pleae explain i want to understand your reasoning.

[Perseus]

i think all states should have the death penalty but they dont by the way the make them so harsh because ppl will learn not to do it

The death penalty is not a deterrent at all.

[Death]

i think all states should have the death penalty but they dont by the way the make them so harsh because ppl will learn not to do it

LOL, what an asinine comment. Killing people teaches people not to kill? Don't know about you, but if I wanted to kill several people, I'd be way happier knowing I'd have ane easy way out at the end of it as opposed to fearing I might be stuck in a shithole for the rest of my life with goodness knows who.

[Jess]

wait are you saying this is a bad thing that they cant have those things? or are you saying lifers should have the same restrictions or what? pleae explain i want to understand your reasoning.

I'm against the death penalty, but I just posted what those on death-row and those who are lifers go through. I'm not saying it's a bad thing nor am I saying lifers should have the same restrictions. I just found it interesting and wanted to share it

[AlexDaniel]

I believe the death penalty, is not as much of a punishment as it is as much of a fear they want you too feel. Of course people are killed because of it, but I think it decreases crime rates because criminals are afraid of it.

[Jess]

I might be wrong, and sorry if I am, but the UK doesn't have the death penalty, AND crime rates are lower. the US does, and crime rates seem to be higher

so I don't think it would decrease crime rates

[Dog Desab]

LOL, what an asinine comment. Killing people teaches people not to kill? Don't know about you, but if I wanted to kill several people, I'd be way happier knowing I'd have ane easy way out at the end of it as opposed to fearing I might be stuck in a shithole for the rest of my life with goodness knows who.

^ lol.

But its weird that they do that with people who are sentenced to death compared to people who will spend life in prison. Kinda dumb unless it's a seriously deranged person who deserves the death penalty but kills people just to kill people. If that made sense xD. Idk why I'm trying to get at, my thoughts are too jumbled.

[Death]

I believe the death penalty, is not as much of a punishment as it is as much of a fear they want you too feel. Of course people are killed because of it, but I think it decreases crime rates because criminals are afraid of it.

Implying everyone is afraid of death. Why do you think virtually all shoot-outs end up in the suicide of the antagonist? And what about suicide bombers looking to become martyrs for thier cause?

[SosbanFach]

I might be wrong, and sorry if I am, but the UK doesn't have the death penalty, AND crime rates are lower. the US does, and crime rates seem to be higher

so I don't think it would decrease crime rates

This is indeed correct, but there are other things that could affect this, for example how easy it is to gain access to a firearm, or other dangerous weapons

[TheMatrix]

Why do I get the sense you're making another pointless dig at me?
Because he is.

I can't help but notice that 3 out of 4 people who oppose the death penalty here are British, and in this country we don't use it.
Well then, let's get the opinion of a Dutch person.
We don't use it either. Idk why; I've never looked into it.
I forget what it was, but the newspaper said something about the death penalty costing taxpayers $280M every year, for just 13 people. I think that was only for California.


(I say 3/4 because I disagree with it as well, it seems barbaric to me, and is not at all appropriate in the 21st century.
There seem to be differing views on that....which is perfectly fine.
My two cents:
We shouldn't use it, instead we should put them in jail. Like Jessica said, the UK doesn't have the death penalty, and their crime rates are lower.


Ever heard the phrase "two wrongs don't make a right"? In fact, Death's signature sums it up nicely!)
Precisely. +1