The Gap Between Rich and Poor In School and Friends

[DerBear]

Well for the first time in my life yesterday I really did have nothing to say

In Scotland the school I go to seems to have made a barrier between rich and poor...

I will tell you how I have noticed this some verbal abuse has been traded by both sides.

But I then think that why does money have to matter when it comes to socializing as its more personality and I believe stereotyping has a lot to do with this issue.

So what do you think of this issue please feel free to comment

(The reason I have posted this is because I have witnessed this and I may post the current issue I had in the friends and family section but I wanted to start a debate topic here)

[Joe410ish]

I think that money may have something to do cause it might lift people's ego and think they're too good for "x" person.

And for the "poor" ones... well I don't know what to say...

[Magus]

Rich people = Pompous ego inflated bastards. All of them. No exception. It's in their nature.

They never tasted the life the middle and labour-class people live in.

I used to have friends, rich kids, but they realised I cannot afford all the shit they do when they are out. So, they left me, and forgot me, completely. Forget I was their friend.

As for the rich kids in school, I don't talk to them. In my school, though, they are mostly labour or middle classed students.

[Bimmerhead]

I agree with what you and other have said to an extent. In my town (Hemet California) there aren't any affluent areas. So the people who do have boat loads of money are surrounded by others who do not. So the 5 or 6 rich kids out of a 2000 person school just
blend in. They couldn't use money against anyone because all of their friends would take offence lol! But I know in places like Beverly hills and La Jolla its very segregated by money. Its human nature especially since the wealthy have been fed with silver spoons all of their life, they were born into it.

[embers]

The rich people in my school get on with the poor just fine. I think the gap is only prevalent in some societies and not others, maybe it's to do with the type of places the communities are living in. I don't know.

[DerBear]

Rich people = Pompous ego inflated bastards. All of them. No exception. It's in their nature.

They never tasted the life the middle and labour-class people live in.

I used to have friends, rich kids, but they realised I cannot afford all the shit they do when they are out. So, they left me, and forgot me, completely. Forget I was their friend.

As for the rich kids in school, I don't talk to them. In my school, though, they are mostly labour or middle classed students.

Well i would have to disagree respectfuly

I find that like some people have said it depends on where you live and i am not meaning to offend but are you sure your not letting what happend to you cloud your judgement i mean i come from a wealth background but i get on with anyone as long as they have a nice personality and i do not think i have ever got into a fight with someone and go "eh i have more money than you"

but i see your point their was a time when i lived in france for a awhile and the gap between rich and poor was noticible but i feel i destroyed that barrier as i never sided with the rich folk as thats my choice

but my overall opinon for what people have said so far is that it is your up bringing the enviroment you live in that affects your attitude

[Tristin.]

Rich people = Pompous ego inflated bastards. All of them. No exception. It's in their nature.
They never tasted the life the middle and labour-class people live in.

I used to have friends, rich kids, but they realised I cannot afford all the shit they do when they are out. So, they left me, and forgot me, completely. Forget I was their friend.

As for the rich kids in school, I don't talk to them. In my school, though, they are mostly labour or middle classed students.

umm no, its not in our nature, that is nothing more than stereotyping.

in my school, there is no rich or poor, only who is richer. but that does not mean i dont know what you are on about.

i have a few frriends who go to state schools and they say that while the gap is noticable, nothing is done, everyone gets on, yes you have the odd jibe etc but its all in fun.

i think the hatred all comes from the idea that those who do not have wealth, want the things those who do, and they believe the rich are all stuck up etc, but the poor need to ask themselves, if the roles were reversed, would they be the same?

id also like to mention, that there is a gap between "old money" and "new money"

[Magus]

Well i would have to disagree respectfulyDisagree all you want; however, the truth will always remain intact.

I find that like some people have said it depends on where you live and i am not meaning to offend but are you sure your not letting what happend to you cloud your judgementOh, the case is like that almost everywhere.

And no. Nothing is clouding my judgement, and I am not basing my argument from my experience.

i mean i come from a wealth background but i get on with anyone as long as they have a nice personality and i do not think i have ever got into a fight with someone and go "eh i have more money than you"So you do admit that you are a pompous ego inflated teenybopper. I like that! That's honest -- that's one of the qualities I like in people.

Oh, and not everyone has a nice personality constantly, if not always.

Everyone has a bad quality. It all depends on how much they repress their ugly personality.

Oh, you shouldn't get into a fight with someone and tell them you are filthy rich. That's one of the things that makes your parent pay for a plastic surgery for your pretty faces and to hire a lawyer against the one who give you the juice, or the punch.(Pun is intended).

but i see your point their was a time when i lived in france for a awhile and the gap between rich and poor was noticible but i feel i destroyed that barrier as i never sided with the rich folk as thats my choice
Oh, how noble-noblesse obligie in French. :violin: Reminds me of Freder from the German film "Metropolis" who tried to unite the upper-class and the working-class. Unfortunately, that's a fiction.
but my overall opinon for what people have said so far is that it is your up bringing the enviroment you live in that affects your attitudeI agree too. But I agree it's all the same wherever you live, especially in a society where there are more than one social and economical class.

It's undeniable that human have done this through out the history and in all of the civilisation. There was always wall between the poor and rich. And it's ongoing.
umm no, its not in our nature, that is nothing more than stereotyping.Oh, another one who reveals themselves as pompous ego inflated teenybopper. I am quite delighted by your kind's straightforwardness.

Yes, it is. It's indeed in your nature. And so as denial, as you did here, right now.
in my school, there is no rich or poor, only who is richer. but that does not mean i dont know what you are on about.
And what do you call to those who are not "richer" Poor? Middle class?

Oh, you don't know anything what I am about. You think you do, but you don't.

i have a few frriends who go to state schools and they say that while the gap is noticable, nothing is done, everyone gets on, yes you have the odd jibe etc but its all in fun.

Yes, they are smart enough not to mock their classmates' father being a janitor or a grocer.

i think the hatred all comes from the idea that those who do not have wealth, want the things those who do, and they believe the rich are all stuck up etc, but the poor need to ask themselves, if the roles were reversed, would they be the same?No really, that's not the reason of the hatred -- it's that we are treated completely differently, that's where the hatred comes. So as long we have money for our basic(food-water, shelter, cloth) needs, we are rich enough.

And that last question is answered and portrayed nicely by the Novel "Les Misérables" or the film adaptation of it. And, another example I have been taught in the English Class is, "The Road Sidestand" by Robert Frost. They both depicts the raw reality of life of the poor and the brutal dilemma they face while the unsympathetic rich laugh at their pitiful life.

And the real answer is: The poor knows how he lived, and felt what poverty meant to him or her. So, they won't be in the same stage as those who are baptised in money. So, no, they won't be the same if the roles are reversed. They will have a complete different direction.

id also like to mention, that there is a gap between "old money" and "new money"There, you answered your question yourself.

[Tristin.]

how does my mentioning of old and new answer a question?

and im not a "teenybopper"

id call those who are not richer still rich considering the price their parents are paying to send them to this school.

also, why hate on the children of the rich, its all they have ever known, its not thier falt they were born to these societies.

[RoseyCadaver]

A lot rich kids are over educated brats who think they have it tough.The working and middle class have there flaws too.

Like my dad always says(and many others),the rich get richer,while we get poorer.

I believe society would be better if we had a more middle class group,but it's hard when the system is flawed to keep us here and them up there.The reason why,and many others,liked America was because we're built on Middle class,but sadly we're losing our heritage to that ,and now less then 5 % of us own almost all the money.They don't even use it for good reasons.The day we wake and realize,it might be to late.I think we keep fighting to keep the middle class alive,we'll soon become better as a whole.....but looking at the economies right now,it's gonna be awhile for us to all become "middle class".We need someone to bridge the gap.

[User Deleted]

Bleck, more stereotypes. I just ask the world: why cant life be simpler, why cant we just be civilized?

[SosbanFach]

I would say that many upper-middle class kids are arrogant and spoilt, but not all. Some can be perfectly reasonable people to be with. I go to a private school, and many people in my year like to boast about how much pocket money they get, how much their phone cost, how fancy their laptop is, etc. In my case, because my parents are paying for my education, I rarely get pocket money, my phone costs less than £50 sim free and I have no laptop. I am fine with that. It annoys me beyond belief when people complain that they only have the iPhone 3GS, and not 4. They should be happy with their lot. But generally where I live the state school students are against the private school students, and I try to keep my head down. As for preventing friendships, I rarely notice that.

[Tristin.]

I would say that many upper-middle class kids are arrogant and spoilt, but not all. Some can be perfectly reasonable people to be with. I go to a private school, and many people in my year like to boast about how much pocket money they get, how much their phone cost, how fancy their laptop is, etc. In my case, because my parents are paying for my education, I rarely get pocket money, my phone costs less than £50 sim free and I have no laptop. I am fine with that. It annoys me beyond belief when people complain that they only have the iPhone 3GS, and not 4. They should be happy with their lot. But generally where I live the state school students are against the private school students, and I try to keep my head down. As for preventing friendships, I rarely notice that.

exactly!

[DerBear]

I think you are stereotyping Electric Nomand.

you are saying that every single rich person in the world is up their own arse and big headed...thats like me saying poor people live in 1 bedroom houses usually smoke and have drinking problems have more kids than they can manage and eat tomato soup (watched a documentry form 1990s called dead poor it compared to drumchappal the poorest area in glasgow and it had this stereotype in it)(modren studies) but i dont think that infact i admire people who are like that i really do.

i just wish you would stop stereo typing its not nice and rather unfair

tristan
has a good point why hate on rich kids as its all they have ever been tought

[RoseyCadaver]

I don't hate most rich kids,some of them are very nice,it's just a lot of them I know are very hateful and rude.What comes around goes around.

The whole "they can't help it they were raised that way"I believe is kind of shit.

My mother was raised by an abusive drunk dad and crazy mother,then a very abusive(sexual and physical) grand father but very nice grand mother who did a lot of good,and she was Baptist.She didn't grow up to be crazy,or a drunk,or abusive,and me madre is Catholic.So I'm not in favor that it's not their fault.Then again,my mother could a one in a million(doubt it).

[embers]

Faris, you're being a bit close-minded there. Rich =/= 'pompous ego-inflated teenybopper'.

This thread is full of stereotypes.

[DerBear]

I don't hate most rich kids,some of them are very nice,it's just a lot of them I know are very hateful and rude.What comes around goes around.

The whole "they can't help it they were raised that way"I believe is kind of shit.

My mother was raised by an abusive drunk dad and crazy mother,then a very abusive(sexual and physical) grand father but very nice grand mother who did a lot of good,and she was Baptist.She didn't grow up to be crazy,or a drunk,or abusive,and me madre is Catholic.So I'm not in favor that it's not their fault.Then again,my mother could a one in a million(doubt it).

What happend to your mum is diffrent....she knows that. that was wrong on every level possible

so you need to think

most rich kids grow up in a safe enviroment and they are tought diffrently (well most are) they grow up not knowing that they are going to be offensive if they say that its thier lifestyle and by the time they get to the age where people really begin to notice its too late

they see nothing wrong with what they are doing what happend to your mum is diffrent

[Magus]

how does my mentioning of old and new answer a question?Not too keen, though.

id call those who are not richer still rich considering the price their parents are paying to send them to this school.Oh, a very luxurious private school. Understandable.
also, why hate on the children of the rich, its all they have ever known, its not thier falt they were born to these societies.Nope. It's never their fault to be born in a rich family. They seem to be guilty, although they are not, because they are rich, why would it be their fault? Right?
I think you are stereotyping Electric Nomand.

you are saying that every single rich person in the world is up their own arse and big headed...thats like me saying poor people live in 1 bedroom houses usually smoke and have drinking problems have more kids than they can manage and eat tomato soup (watched a documentry form 1990s called dead poor it compared to drumchappal the poorest area in glasgow and it had this stereotype in it)(modren studies) but i dont think that infact i admire people who are like that i really do.Onf onf! I said something, and you said hundred.

There is a cut clear difference between stereotyping and generalising, and I think you are confusing between them.

All homosexual are wimpy <- That's stereotyping.

But calling the rich what I have called because it's in their nature. History is full of evidences, and even today, there are good examples.

What part of "Nature" you don't get, I wonder?

Let's take a case study: There are some rich people, like Bill Gates, who worked hard on their money, but don't spend all of it on for themselves, He uses the capital to reserve steady job opportunities and operate firms for more job expansions. He even said that he won't give any money to his son. He have to earn it up.

Now, that kind of Rich are not as what I have described. That's true, not all of them are what I have said. But most of them are, unfortunately.
Faris, you're being a bit close-minded there.I am really sceptical about that. :scratchchin:
Rich =/= 'pompous ego-inflated teenybopper'.Homosexuals =/= Big brawny manly guys

[DerBear]

No
Nope. It's never their fault to be born in a rich family. They seem to be guilty, although they are not, because they are rich, why would it be their fault? Right?

But what do you expect them to do roll on the ground and say they are a terrible person because they have money..

What would you want them to do.

and most of all why should they feel guilty

pleasew explain that to me

[Magus]

But what do you expect them to do roll on the ground and say they are a terrible person because they have money..They needn't. No one does. It's absurdly silly to do it.
What would you want them to do.
Communism. If that fails. Then there's nothing that can help.
and most of all why should they feel guilty
pleasew explain that to meGuilt is something that has been ripped out of them. And I don't expect anyone to get it back into them.

[DerBear]

Guilt is something that has been ripped out of them. And I don't expect anyone to get it back into them.

Why do you think we are not capable of feeling guilt

we are all human with the same feelings as you

you think we should all be the same

all be given the same start to life..

so lets see my parents are in the wrong for giving me the best start to life

just because our life are diffrent our hart beat as one

[RoseyCadaver]

Homosexuals =/= Big brawny manly guys
Faris,I'm not sure if you're complementing homosexuals or not xD,but I'm bi(and I think you are pansexual,which is the same thing as bi :P)so you better be xD.


What happend to your mum is diffrent....she knows that. that was wrong on every level possible

so you need to think

most rich kids grow up in a safe enviroment and they are tought diffrently (well most are) they grow up not knowing that they are going to be offensive if they say that its thier lifestyle and by the time they get to the age where people really begin to notice its too late

they see nothing wrong with what they are doing what happend to your mum is diffrent

It's not that I have a problem with them being rich or bragging about it,it's when they start dissing the poor.Again idc how they are raised,I'm sure they now what it feels like to be picked on.I went to a upper middle class pvt school(my family was barely hanging on financially,in fact this the poor of the rich lol) and there were a couple of rich kids there,they always make fun of others who didn't have the newest gadget or that there parents work on a farm or office.It just drives a nail into me when they do it.

[Tristin.]

Communism. If that fails. Then there's nothing that can help.


there we go guys.

faris is a comunist, there is no reasoning with fairs at alll. "the rich are oppressors end of."

lovely view faris.

also, here is something for you, a little bit of trivia about those whho are "rich"

the richer the family, the more fucked up it is. thats true about 8/10 times. they may have wealth in financial terms, but iv met boys who have never seen their parents, i myself rarely see mine, hell this summer will be the first in 16 years i will be spending it with them. so while you complain about us all being self inverted, bragging etc, wver thought there is a reason? because so many are dying for attention from their parents. they have the latest gadgets because the parents but their love but it never works, the child usualy ends fucked up.

[Magus]

there we go guys.
And I almost thought you find out what I am about. 'tis a shame.
the richer the family, the more fucked up it is. thats true about 8/10 times. they may have wealth in financial terms, but iv met boys who have never seen their parents, i myself rarely see mine, hell this summer will be the first in 16 years i will be spending it with them. so while you complain about us all being self inverted, bragging etc, wver thought there is a reason? because so many are dying for attention from their parents. they have the latest gadgets because the parents but their love but it never works, the child usualy ends fucked up.I just finished a box of tissue. This is just too overwhelming for me.

[Tristin.]

i was stating a fact not loooking for a sympathy faris

[DerBear]

And I almost thought you find out what I am about. 'tis a shame.
I just finished a box of tissue. This is just too overwhelming for me.

well sarcasm is not very nice in this context i am the few that do have my mum about she does work and gets paid well but she has resonobale working hours unlike my dad

you have family to support you 24/7 or most people do but you think that i enjoy not being able to see my dad that often and sometimes my mum sure i have friends but friends are friends at the end of the day

I dont understand why you are like this :what: when it comes to this subject i mean money is not everything its personality that counts

[Magus]

i was stating a fact not loooking for a sympathy farisWYSIWYG
my dad that often and sometimes my mum sure i have friends but friends are friends at the end of the dayWell, any one of the economical class, their Parents work in ominous shifts(i.e erratic working hours, often late hours), if not labour, then it must be some business tenure. This whole "I don't see my parents a lot" is not limited to your parents only.

Do you think I perceive your parent as automatically rich and that's it, they sit on their bum. Hell, no. They are too hard working people, as anyone else -- it's just they had better opportunities(better educated and financed), is all.

If not for this country's "Only one allocated job per person", I would not have seen my parents for the week-days, and see them on weekends.

[DerBear]

And I almost thought you find out what I am about. 'tis a shame.
I just finished a box of tissue. This is just too overwhelming for me.

WYSIWYG
Well, any one of the economical class, their Parents work in ominous shifts(i.e erratic working hours, often late hours), if not labour, then it must be some business tenure. This whole "I don't see my parents a lot" is not limited to your parents only.

Do you think I perceive your parent as automatically rich and that's it, they sit on their bum. Hell, no. They are too hard working people, as anyone else -- it's just they had better opportunities(better educated and financed), is all.

If not for this country's "Only one allocated job per person", I would not have seen my parents for the week-days, and see them on weekends.

well ok yes i was not saying its just my parents

and is their any problem with having better opertunites i work just as hard as the next person.. i work for my grades and what not

also could you explain more the one allocated job per person thing i do not understand what you mean by that.
.

[Soccerkix]

Lots of stereotypes floating around as examples of one "type" fits everybody.

I think it is how you are raised,,,, to be respectful of others, kind and modest. Lots of friends I know fit that type, all economic backgrounds, and thats why I hang out with them.

Theres rich [email protected]@holes and poor [email protected]@holes.

[RoseyCadaver]

Theres rich [email protected]@holes and poor [email protected]@holes.

Yeah but my sterotype book says rich people are more of a ass holes :P.



I have a few rich friends,some are nice,some are pricks.

[Soccerkix]

Yeah but my sterotype book says rich people are more of a ass holes :P.



I have a few rich friends,some are nice,some are pricks.

eh, don't know same people you know or what your own perceptions are of other people

[RoseyCadaver]

eh, don't know same people you know or what your own perceptions are of other people
It twas a joke my dearest.

[dead]

There's always exceptions.

[Bimmerhead]

WYSIWYG
Do you think I perceive your parent as automatically rich and that's it, they sit on their bum. Hell, no. They are too hard working people, as anyone else -- it's just they had better opportunities(better educated and financed), is all.
Ok maybe I am reading this wrong but are you implying that just because the child's parents are wealthy now, they had better opportunities when they were younger? Not always the case at all! The 42nd president of the United States (Bill Clinton) grew up in a single wide trailer in Arkansas. His dad walked out on him and his mom so he only had one parent. His mom was a waitress at a diner. Despite all of those challenges he had to overcome, he became the President and is now FILTHY RICH! Money helps buy it doesn't necessarily shape someones character for life. It also doesn't mean they always had money either.

[DerBear]

I feel thier has been a lot o stereotypes made here about the rich by Electric Nomand and i feel that she washes all rich people with the same cloth......

needless to say i find that life is not always about money its about personality.....

although i do not understand why electric Nomand thinks the riich people have had guilt ripped out of them or when the statement was made about 1 job allocated per person could someone epxplain that part to me

[Tristin.]

why should i be guility for something i have no control over?

yes i am priveledged yes, but my father worked hard for it and so did my mothers family. iam not going to give it all away because at the end of the day, i believe that if somone wants something they can get it if they work hard enough.
if im truely honest, i hate money. i never see my parents and i live in a school for most of the year. i grew up believing my nanny was my mother. its shit.

and before faris goes on a sarcastic streak, every person has their own issues, you claim its all economic faris? no it isnt, every household is fucked up in some way and if i remember correctalky this topic was about the GAP between the classes.

there is a gap in wealth and in love. the wealthy have more money but the poorer have more love. i know the one i would choose. any day of the week

[Bimmerhead]

why should i be guility for something i have no control over?

yes i am priveledged yes, but my father worked hard for it and so did my mothers family. iam not going to give it all away because at the end of the day, i believe that if somone wants something they can get it if they work hard enough.
if im truely honest, i hate money. i never see my parents and i live in a school for most of the year. i grew up believing my nanny was my mother. its shit.


Im really sorry you never see your parents :( I think this proves that money doesn't always buy happiness and stability.

[DerBear]

Im really sorry you never see your parents :( I think this proves that money doesn't always buy happiness and stability.

money never does buy happiness but i will admit it does help on the stability

yet again i disagree with one point you said tristan...you think that all familys are fucked up in some way...where as i think each family has it problems i would not say fucked up and why did you say most rich kids end up fucked

[Tristin.]

i said it because iv seen it.
and im not saying all rich kinds, but the % is a little higher.

and when i say families are fucked up, i mean has issues :P

[DerBear]

i said it because iv seen it.
and im not saying all rich kinds, but the % is a little higher.

and when i say families are fucked up, i mean has issues :P

i suppose i do have to agree with you on that

[Tristin.]

my brohter and i are a good example, weve both cut, he has ran away, i stopped speaking for a month all to get our parents attention. there was a boy a few years above me who once he left school, was lost, he had no structure any more, his mother continued to ignore him and he ended up taking his final jump. then you have the brats who get everything they want and think they are the best thing since god and all because their parents are new money who believe the sun shines out of their egocentric backsides. it is the new money who gives those wiht money a bad name

[Bimmerhead]

money never does buy happiness but i will admit it does help on the stability


Money DOES help in terms of financial stability. But there was a study done that shows wealthy people often times are more mentally unstable then others without lots of doe.

[RoseyCadaver]

times are more mentally unstable then others without lots of doe.

I have lots of female deers,I'm not mentally unstable.

People be mean because they want to.No amount of money is forcing them to.It is more or less how you were raised to be honest.

[Magus]

Ok maybe I am reading this wrong but are you implying that just because the child's parents are wealthy now, they had better opportunities when they were younger? Not always the case at all! The 42nd president of the United States (Bill Clinton) grew up in a single wide trailer in Arkansas. His dad walked out on him and his mom so he only had one parent. His mom was a waitress at a diner. Despite all of those challenges he had to overcome, he became the President and is now FILTHY RICH! Money helps buy it doesn't necessarily shape someones character for life. It also doesn't mean they always had money either.You have read it wrong.
there is a gap in wealth and in love. the wealthy have more money but the poorer have more love. i know the one i would choose. any day of the weekHypocrisy in all of its forms. BTW, I was never sarcastic. I was serious.

First you are giving me the "the richer and the looser the family ties" trump card. It doesn't work like this.

You think the poorer the tighter the family gets? No, I already told you, it's the same with most of them. Most of the families are actually dysfunctional to no end.

Last week, only god knows how many times the word "divorce" and "death" were uttered in my own home.

Money DOES help in terms of financial stability. But there was a study done that shows wealthy people often times are more mentally unstable then others without lots of doe.Playha, this is the first time I will ever agree with you.

[Lethe]

People who have a lot of expendable money tend to be more self-absorbed and arrogant because they can use their money to buy them temporary happiness, which, at the time of receiving such happiness, seems more substantial than simple pleasures which every human being should experience. Richer children enjoy "priviledges" that many other children do not get to have, but having those priviledges does not make them better or more worthy of a person. To be honest, it is really the exact opposite.

People who are less "fortunate" than those with a lot of money tend to be less emotionally dependent on items and are less likely to squander money simply to say that they spent money on something. And because they do not have this ability, they are more grounded, level-headed people. It is surprising to the rich how happy a "poor" person can be living off what they might regard as "minimal" conditions. Still, they act superior to most other people because they believe having expensive or exotic things makes them more important than others.

In terms of class differences at schools, it really shouldn't be that black and white. Students, even at private schools, shouldn't really have any opportunities to show off their "riches" so to speak. But I can understand how cliques form depending on social status. It's frustrating, because one person can be just as good as the next, but people tend to stick in groups of people they can relate to. Thus, the differences between the rich and the poor.

[DerBear]

People who have a lot of expendable money tend to be more self-absorbed and arrogant because they can use their money to buy them temporary happiness, which, at the time of receiving such happiness, seems more substantial than simple pleasures which every human being should experience. Richer children enjoy "priviledges" that many other children do not get to have, but having those priviledges does not make them better or more worthy of a person. To be honest, it is really the exact opposite.

People who are less "fortunate" than those with a lot of money tend to be less emotionally dependent on items and are less likely to squander money simply to say that they spent money on something. And because they do not have this ability, they are more grounded, level-headed people. It is surprising to the rich how happy a "poor" person can be living off what they might regard as "minimal" conditions. Still, they act superior to most other people because they believe having expensive or exotic things makes them more important than others.

In terms of class differences at schools, it really shouldn't be that black and white. Students, even at private schools, shouldn't really have any opportunities to show off their "riches" so to speak. But I can understand how cliques form depending on social status. It's frustrating, because one person can be just as good as the next, but people tend to stick in groups of people they can relate to. Thus, the differences between the rich and the poor.

yes i agree with you on the last paragraph you wrote as it does relate to my first question/post

but IMO its alway down to personality and enviroment and your moral code
some people are brought up diffrent
but TBH this whole crap about being more mentaly unstable and not been level headed or grounded is crap

think money + power can lead to problems i.e politics most of them have money and power bad combo unless you have been bulit up through the ranks.

and i think it is always personality thats why i do not judge people each class = people..people=single persons so thats why everyone should be tried and based on personality not their class

[thebgsamuel]

i am in aprivat schoole and more less every one is "rich" as u say but seriously is that what people think of me and my friends in schoole we are bastards and what ever you say? i dont feel like being egocentric or bad or anything...
it is true poor people scare me but only people on the streets coz they always look like theyr gona atack you or robe you but some look normal...

and i live in france im a count and i dont think your money and power thing has anything to do with personality...

[Tristin.]

i am in aprivat schoole and more less every one is "rich" as u say but seriously is that what people think of me and my friends in schoole we are bastards and what ever you say? i dont feel like being egocentric or bad or anything...
it is true poor people scare me but only people on the streets coz they always look like theyr gona atack you or robe you but some look normal...

and i live in france im a count and i dont think your money and power thing has anything to do with personality...

i hate to say it, but this sounds like such a lie

[thebgsamuel]

You have read it wrong.
Hypocrisy in all of its forms. BTW, I was never sarcastic. I was serious.

First you are giving me the "the richer and the looser the family ties" trump card. It doesn't work like this.

You think the poorer the tighter the family gets? No, I already told you, it's the same with most of them. Most of the families are actually dysfunctional to no end.

Last week, only god knows how many times the word "divorce" and "death" were uttered in my own home.

Playha, this is the first time I will ever agree with you.

so because you have money means you are unstabel say rich people are crazy then and murderes coz most murderurs and drug dealers and thives arnt rich rich people win theire money my parents study both 12 years in univercity to get thier job! so seriously you dont get crazy because you have a happy social status a nice house nice cars and a private school! its ridiculus!

[Magus]

so because you have money means you are unstabel say rich people are crazy then and murderes coz most murderurs and drug dealers and thives arnt rich rich people win theire money my parents study both 12 years in univercity to get thier job! so seriously you dont get crazy because you have a happy social status a nice house nice cars and a private school! its ridiculus!Sorry, I am not familiar with that lingo.

[Bimmerhead]

i am in aprivat schoole and more less every one is "rich" as u say but seriously is that what people think of me and my friends in schoole we are bastards and what ever you say? i dont feel like being egocentric or bad or anything...
it is true poor people scare me but only people on the streets coz they always look like theyr gona atack you or robe you but some look normal...

and i live in france im a count and i dont think your money and power thing has anything to do with personality...
You go to a private school? Your a count! Really?? Ok whats your name then im a little skeptical and that can easily be looked up. If this is true you were born into money and when you say "poor people scare me" it kind of goes against everything else you have said.


I have lots of female deers,I'm not mentally unstable.

People be mean because they want to.No amount of money is forcing them to.It is more or less how you were raised to be honest.

People born into money are mean because they themselves feel a lack of self worth. I will use myself as an example. I was in the top 8% earning bracket for someone of my age when I was 16-17. My own net worth was higher then most kids my age and it was all money I made and it didn't have anything to do with my parents. I had a great job and I was always "needed". Having people depend on you is a great feeling! Your the center of attention and without you things would fall apart. I slept great at night and mentally I was stable in that aspect. Children with money are never needed. EVER! They are born into a family business of an empire that can more then support their lifestyle. They feel no sense of self worth and act out in many ways especially when their parents dont pay attention to them.

[thebgsamuel]

check out "de Hénin-Liétard" on google thats my familly i am samuel de Hénin-Liétard

[thebgsamuel]

You go to a private school? Your a count! Really?? Ok whats your name then im a little skeptical and that can easily be looked up. If this is true you were born into money and when you say "poor people scare me" it kind of goes against everything else you have said.




People born into money are mean because they themselves feel a lack of self worth. I will use myself as an example. I was in the top 8% earning bracket for someone of my age when I was 16-17. My own net worth was higher then most kids my age and it was all money I made and it didn't have anything to do with my parents. I had a great job and I was always "needed". Having people depend on you is a great feeling! Your the center of attention and without you things would fall apart. I slept great at night and mentally I was stable in that aspect. Children with money are never needed. EVER! They are born into a family business of an empire that can more then support their lifestyle. They feel no sense of self worth and act out in many ways especially when their parents dont pay attention to them.

check out "de Hénin-Liétard" on google thats my familly i am samuel de Hénin-Liétard

and anyway people who live in the streets scare me because they look scrufy but that does not mean i hate people who are not lords i just am scared of people who look at you on the sreets as if he was gona get made if you dont give him a coin!

[Tristin.]

what school do you go to then count?

[thebgsamuel]

Collège et Lycée Saint-Louis de Gonzague

[RoseyCadaver]

so seriously you dont get crazy because you have a happy social status a nice house nice cars and a private school! its ridiculus!
Yes,lets not be mean to the person who waste valuable resources like oil to make their nice car go vrom vrom,or that he lives in an overly sized home.

Oh,and sir,your spelling is ummm,quite frank ,horrible.To be honest I kind of doubt you're as rich as you are presuming to be.

[Bimmerhead]

Yes,lets not be mean to the person who waste valuable resources like oil to make their nice car go vrom vrom,or that he lives in an overly sized home.

Oh,and sir,your spelling is ummm,quite frank ,horrible.To be honest I kind of doubt you're as rich as you are presuming to be.

Ok yes I think this guy is completely pulling our chains right now. BUT his atrocious spelling could be due to the fact that English is a second language if indeed he is french.

[thebgsamuel]

Yes,lets not be mean to the person who waste valuable resources like oil to make their nice car go vrom vrom,or that he lives in an overly sized home.

Oh,and sir,your spelling is ummm,quite frank ,horrible.To be honest I kind of doubt you're as rich as you are presuming to be.

well that might be because i am french! i don't speak English at home or at school

and anyway the threat is about The Gap Between Rich and Poor In School and Friends so i answered i think money does not make you crazy or anything there i said what i think and lets get back to the actual subject

[RoseyCadaver]

well that might be because i am french! i don't speak English at home or at school

My sincerest apologies.


and anyway the threat is about The Gap Between Rich and Poor In School and Friends so i answered i think money does not make you crazy or anything there
Who said anything about threats :rolleyes:?

i said what i think and lets get back to the actual subject

Is that not the subject we are on?Money and what not?






People born into money are mean because they themselves feel a lack of self worth. I will use myself as an example. I was in the top 8% earning bracket for someone of my age when I was 16-17. My own net worth was higher then most kids my age and it was all money I made and it didn't have anything to do with my parents. I had a great job and I was always "needed". Having people depend on you is a great feeling! Your the center of attention and without you things would fall apart. I slept great at night and mentally I was stable in that aspect. Children with money are never needed. EVER! They are born into a family business of an empire that can more then support their lifestyle. They feel no sense of self worth and act out in many ways especially when their parents dont pay attention to them.
Whats up with all this talk about money?

To say they are NEVER EVER needed,again is a stereotype.Quick story, my friend's papi is quite up in there at Verizon,he has it made pretty good,yet he plans on working at some shitty local guitar center type place when he gets older.They all ready saying they gonna take him.To say that they aren't need,ever is rather ridiculous and quite plainly,ignorant.That is like saying ever job opening for teenagers says "poor" or middle class only.

[embers]

Oh,and sir,your spelling is ummm,quite frank ,horrible.To be honest I kind of doubt you're as rich as you are presuming to be.

Yours isn't great either. This kind of shit pisses me off, when in the middle of a debate you suddenly disregard someone's post on the grounds that they haven't spelt something correctly.

[DerBear]

quick input here this is not spelling wars so can we please remain on topic here

[RoseyCadaver]

Yours isn't great either. This kind of shit pisses me off, when in the middle of a debate you suddenly disregard someone's post on the grounds that they haven't spelt something correctly.

I shouldn't have been so harsh I agree,but it's rather hard to read some of what he wrote.So don't take it personally,please.

Now,back to the subject.

I don't think that someone with a lot of money is just going to be automatically "useless" on the work force,or for someone to say they know that the kid never gets to see his parents.I'm sure some people with money see their kids,some with it don't.

[DerBear]

This is full of bulshit stereotypes about rich people

1) rich people tend to go into jobs as they tend to get a good education and parents may or may not have connections infact it is proven that 9/10 rich people work.

2) rich people are not usless

3) rich people are not always stuck up or get privalages or what not...like myself my parents have never given me what i want when i want it even though we could aford it always

4) a lot of familes that do have money let their children run/work in a small buisness to get an idea of the working world.....like my parents they let me run a small local buisness that they bought to give me an idea of the working world and buisness world so essential i run it and keep the income and if i am really stuck i ask my parents for help

5) Could we not do so much stereotypes

[Magus]

This is full of bulshit stereotypes about rich people

1) rich people tend to go into jobs as they tend to get a good education and parents may or may not have connections infact it is proven that 9/110 rich people work.

2) rich people are not uslessIs it me, or just those two are two contradicting ying yangs yanked at my ass.

In first, you are saying out of hundred and ten, nine people work. And in the second, they are not useless. Really mindfucking to the senses.

Not working is equal not aiding the economy.

3) rich people are not always stuck up or get privalages or what not...like myself my parents have never given me what i want when i want it even though we could aford it alwaysIt's good not to spoil kids, it's they best way to raise a self aware child. Not many are like you Derri, though.


4) a lot of familes that do have money let their children run/work in a small buisness to get an idea of the working world.....like my parents they let me run a small local buisness that they bought to give me an idea of the working world and buisness world so essential i run it and keep the income and if i am really stuck i ask my parents for helpMany parents teach their kids what they have learned.

Some learn craftsmanship early in their life, like carpentering and metal work(blacksmithing). Especial case if its directly taught by parents.

Some parents teach salesmanship and statesmanship, just like what they did to you; send you to workshops. Some parent teach completely other thing unrelated to their job, too.

[DerBear]

Is it me, or just those two are two contradicting ying yangs yanked at my ass.

In first, you are saying out of hundred and ten, nine people work. And in the second, they are not useless. Really mindfucking to the senses.

Not working is equal not aiding the economy.
It's good not to spoil kids, it's they best way to raise a self aware child. Not many are like you Derri, though.

Many parents teach their kids what they have learned.

Some learn craftsmanship early in their life, like carpentering and metal work(blacksmithing). Especial case if its directly taught by parents.

Some parents teach salesmanship and statesmanship, just like what they did to you; send you to workshops. Some parent teach completely other thing unrelated to their job, too.

sorry i meant 9/10 that was a typing error my bad

and is it not like 30% of charitable donations are held through these privste events that these rich folk attend

and yes most parents do teach the "tricks of the trade" no matter what socail class i am aware of that

i just dislike all this stereotyping that is going on and its all atacking people with money

how many stereotypes have been made about the "poor" so to speak...i think next to none

[Magus]

how many stereotypes have been made about the "poor" so to speak...i think next to noneIt's like saying heterosexual have next to none stereotypes.

Here is an experiment, google "poor people stereotypes", and then "rich people stereotypes" - see the number of "search result" which is below the search bar and compare.

[DerBear]

It's like saying heterosexual have next to none stereotypes.

Here is an experiment, google "poor people stereotypes", and then "rich people stereotypes" - see the number of "search result" which is below the search bar and compare.

ok i did that and their is a diffrence but i dont get why you had to start the stereotypes because once someone starts its like a heard of sheep

but seriously i dont think we should care about peoples wealth...What is your opinon on this?

[Magus]

but seriously i dont think we should care about peoples wealth...What is your opinon on this?The main premise of this thread, is there a gap between the poor and rich. And the reason why there is a gap between the poor and the rich.

So, if there is indeed a gap, then it's a problem. And a problem must have a solution. But, the problem also has reason as to why it's problem.

[DerBear]

The main premise of this thread, is there a gap between the poor and rich. And the reason why there is a gap between the poor and the rich.

So, if there is indeed a gap, then it's a problem. And a problem must have a solution. But, the problem also has reason as to why it's problem.

but so far i think everyone is stumped to find a way to solve this problem

So what would you do about the gap ?

and why do you find it such a major problem?

i mean i find it a problem but its a tuff subject

[joeyjorulz]

My father who has and does travel extensivly once said: There are good and bad people of all race, religion and economic status. Likewise in all countries of the world.

[DerBear]

My father who has and does travel extensivly once said: There are good and bad people of all race, religion and economic status. Likewise in all countries of the world.

thats an intresting saying and 100% true

[DerBear]

Well thanks for the intresting replies guys nice to see some good thoughts

[Genghis Khan]

Where I study being rich doesn't = egotism and being a snob necessarily. We all (people in my year) know this dope who's not even aware of how big his house or his brain is, he isn't judgemental either. Another case is this dude named Matt who may well be the richest kid in our year, you'd never be able to guess it though, he dresses normally and doesn't act like he's got a rod up his ass.

[zuluman78]

There will always be a gap between the rich and poor, we don't create it, it's just there. Money will always have extreme value in society- money gives people resources, power, and control and most of all a huge ego. Low working class despise the rich because of jealousy they have towards them, they work hard and earn nothing. The rich look down on the poor because they see themselves as socially and economically superior.

But to say all rich people are pompous and egotistical is bull, most of them have worked hard to earn what they have and there are humble billionaires such as Bill Gates :D

[Sporadica]

I live in one of the top 5 richest percapita cities in all of Canada, there are about 10,000 students or somewhere around there, now at my High School there are alot of rich kids, I'm talking about kids who drive maserati's and pimped out mustangs and mercede benz's to school. Me myself our hjousehold income is around 50k a year and thats considerably low for our city. Just drive 10 minutes and 50k a year is alot better and can get you more.