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RoseyCadaver
May 25th, 2011, 07:38 PM
I support him and I was wondering how many VT's do too.Please give a reason why you support him.

I for one support almost everything he stands for.I love how he wants everything the people want.I also love how he was the only one who voted against the ,in my opinion,un-just war of Iraq.

Sage
May 25th, 2011, 07:46 PM
I think he's absolutely right on some issues and wrong on others. I also think he has an unpleasant crowd of sheepish followers who let his charisma partially or entirely blind them to the reality of his stances.

Maverick
May 25th, 2011, 07:53 PM
Love him or hate him, I respect the fact that he has principles and has a proven track record of what he believes and sticking with it. I entirely agree with him on foreign policy and economics. I also liked the fact that hes put more light on the Federal Reserve as the major cause of the financial crisis, inflation, and lower standards of living.

Sage, for the sake of debate, I'm curious on what you feel he is wrong on.

RoseyCadaver
May 25th, 2011, 08:02 PM
I think he's absolutely right on some issues and wrong on others. I also think he has an unpleasant crowd of sheepish followers who let his charisma partially or entirely blind them to the reality of his stances.
Some people do follow him blindly,I don't but I don't think i have to worry where he'll lead me.I agree with him on most things,except abortion.I think if people want to what i call murder in my mind they should be allowed.It's their right.On everything else I'm with him 100%.

I agree Meverick about the track record and the light shone down on the FED.In a way,they're the men behind the curtain.

Sage
May 25th, 2011, 08:11 PM
Sage, for the sake of debate, I'm curious on what you feel he is wrong on.

Alright, first, allow me to rephrase- I disagree with him on certain issues, and I'm not here to debate those issues in particular because it's simply going to erupt into a clusterfuck and my views on most things should be fairly clear after being on this forum for so many years now.

I disagree with him on his belief that America was intended by its founding fathers to be a strictly Christian (regardless of however tolerant) society and that personal rights and freedoms are granted by a creator god. He's also avidly pro-life, where as I'm avidly pro-choice. In addition, while I can get behind a few aspects of free-market capitalism, I'm hardly a libertarian and prefer not to put too much faith in the governments' ability to regulate the economy or the free markets' ability to regulate itself.

RoseyCadaver
May 25th, 2011, 08:18 PM
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I disagree with him on his belief that America was intended by its founding fathers to be a strictly Christian (regardless of however tolerant) society and that personal rights and freedoms are granted by a creator god. He's also avidly pro-life, where as I'm avidly pro-choice. In addition, while I can get behind a few aspects of free-market capitalism, I'm hardly a libertarian and prefer not to put too much faith in the governments' ability to regulate the economy or the free markets' ability to regulate itself.

He is a Christian,true,but he doesn't seem like the type of person to mix government and religion.I can understand his point of view with being pro-life.I'm not but then again I have delivered more than 4,000 babies,so i don't know what it's like.I will agree the population is quite big,but I think Ron Paul will help the education system by putting in Sex-Ed.

Amnesiac
May 25th, 2011, 08:26 PM
I take issue with Ron Paul's position on states' rights. Basically, he's advocating that the states not adhere to libertarian policies, but that the federal government does.

Maverick
May 25th, 2011, 10:10 PM
Alright, first, allow me to rephrase- I disagree with him on certain issues, and I'm not here to debate those issues in particular because it's simply going to erupt into a clusterfuck and my views on most things should be fairly clear after being on this forum for so many years now.

I disagree with him on his belief that America was intended by its founding fathers to be a strictly Christian (regardless of however tolerant) society and that personal rights and freedoms are granted by a creator god. He's also avidly pro-life, where as I'm avidly pro-choice. In addition, while I can get behind a few aspects of free-market capitalism, I'm hardly a libertarian and prefer not to put too much faith in the governments' ability to regulate the economy or the free markets' ability to regulate itself.
Ron Paul's religious beliefs and stance on abortion shouldn't matter though if you understand his philosophy on government. Although Ron Paul is pro-life, he believes that its a states issue and that pro-lifers nor pro-choicers should impose their belief on the entire country. He would prefer to have it handled at the state level and anyone that disagrees can vote with their feet by moving to another state or change the law. Either way, changing a law at the state level is much easier than over the Federal government.

If you don't have much faith in government nor the free market, then how do you expect an economy to work? Free market capitalism gives people the freedom to start their own business and set the prices they wish. If the consumer approves of the price, they will buy it. Competition will force the companies to be on their toes to keep prices attractive and value in their products. If they become insolvent then the market will take them on out with bankruptcy.

The problem that usually arises when government regulates it distorts the market. Regulations often add costs to the business which gets passed on to the consumer. Also they can limit the amount of competition by favoring certain businesses which will then provide less incentive for companies to continue to lower prices and provide value.

slappy
May 26th, 2011, 01:31 AM
There is this site where I see where people stand on the issues, here is Paul's stand on things

Sorry I didn't give my opinion, I'm on my phone and it would take a long time

http://www.ontheissues.org/ron_paul.htm

Korashk
May 26th, 2011, 09:24 AM
I take issue with Ron Paul's position on states' rights. Basically, he's advocating that the states not adhere to libertarian policies, but that the federal government does.
Well, in terms of ideology he's a libertarian but in terms of politics he's a constitutionalist. Meaning that according to him, the federal government shouldn't do things that the constitution doesn't explicitly say they can.

This applies to the states because the 10th amendment gives (should give) them a lot of leeway in terms of lawmaking.

bleedoutlove
May 29th, 2011, 06:44 AM
I'll be honest, I don't know many of his policies, but I support his stance on the (pointless) drug war.