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ShyGuyInChicago
May 25th, 2011, 01:12 PM
http://moms.today.com/_news/2011/05/25/6715267-he-she-or-it-family-keeps-babys-gender-a-secret

He, she or it? Family keeps baby's gender a secret

By Rachel Elbaum
The first question people ask after hearing of a new arrival is usually, “Boy or girl?”
Friends and family of one Canadian couple are getting no answer to this simple inquiry. Kathy Witterick and her husband David Stocker have decided to keep baby Storm's gender a secret.
Steve Russell / TORONTO STAR
Boy or girl? They're not telling. Baby Storm, in red, gets a cuddle from brother Jazz.


“We've decided not to share Storm's sex for now — a tribute to freedom and choice in place of limitation, a stand up to what the world could become in Storm's lifetime (a more progressive place?),” the couple wrote in an email to friends and family after Storm’s birth, according to the Toronto Star.
Other than Storm’s parents, the only other people to know Storm’s gender are the couple’s two sons, Jazz, 5, and Kio, 2, the midwives who delivered the baby and a close family friend. They got the idea to raise a genderless child from a book they found in the library, and told the paper the secrecy is about giving their children freedom.
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“What we noticed is that parents make so many choices for their children. It’s obnoxious,” Stocker told the paper. He and his wife allow Jazz and Kio to choose their clothing from both the boys' and girls' departments – including pink dresses - and how they want to wear their hair.
Although many parents rebel against traditional pink and blue clothing for their babies, and give dolls to their boys and trucks to their girls, Storm’s parents’ decision seems to have touched a nerve, sparking discussion on news outlets and blogs around the world. Comments on the original story accuse the parents of being “irresponsible,” confusing their children, and setting up Storm for “future damage.”
“Reading the story I thought about Storm’s brothers,” writes Lisa Belkin in the New York Times blog Motherlode. “What message is being sent to them, telling them that their sibling’s sex is an unspillable secret. Doesn’t that in itself give gender the all-defining importance that these parents are trying to avoid?”
This isn’t the first time a family has decided to raise a genderless child. A couple in Sweden kept the gender of their 2-year-old child, named Pop, a secret, saying they want “Pop to grow up more freely and avoid being forced into a specific gender mold from the outset.” The latest stories about Pop date back to last summer. Wonder how that's working out?
What do you think of this couple’s decision to keep Storm’s gender a secret?
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CantLiveWithoutYou
May 25th, 2011, 02:57 PM
These parents are mentally unfuckingstable, Jazz? Storm? Please for the love of Grant(if anyone gets that reference good for you) just fucking take their kids away. They're probably going to have a horrible life with the way the parents are..

Sage
May 25th, 2011, 07:26 PM
These parents are mentally unfuckingstable, Jazz? Storm? Please for the love of Grant(if anyone gets that reference good for you) just fucking take their kids away. They're probably going to have a horrible life with the way the parents are..

http://futurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/laughing2.jpg

What are you, the baby name police?

I fully approve. Gneder roles are disgusting and it irritates me that we nail such things into children's heads from the day they're born. The actions of the parents are doing nothing to 'confuse' the poor kids- it's the scrutiny and ostracization of a society based on gender roles that 'confuses' people who simply disagree with paths and choices that are 'set out' for them simply because of their gender.

If the children are picked on for being different, so be it. The fear of not conforming is not something I would aspire to see instilled in children.

Quick_Sylver
May 25th, 2011, 07:34 PM
Finally someone has the balls to do this and make a damn stink about it.

Thank god.

Amnesiac
May 25th, 2011, 08:27 PM
Who gives a fuck?

Sage
May 25th, 2011, 08:59 PM
Who gives a fuck?

The socially acceptable police. :rolleyes:

RoseyCadaver
May 25th, 2011, 09:06 PM
My friend posted this on her Facebook,i find it quite odd,and I'm pretty girly.

Kahn
May 25th, 2011, 10:11 PM
Every second somebody speaks of this someone is dying.

This isn't news.

ShyGuyInChicago
May 25th, 2011, 10:25 PM
Every second somebody speaks of this someone is dying.

This isn't news.

I do not necessarily agree. I can understand, though Maybe this was only reported because the parents told their local newspaper. I think this leads to very interesting conversations. Then again, I understand why and how you feel the way that you do since this story has little bearing on people's lives and no one is being harmed.

Amnesiac
May 25th, 2011, 10:52 PM
The socially acceptable police. :rolleyes:

Well, of course, they give a fuck about everything.

ShatteredWings
May 26th, 2011, 07:32 AM
all i have to say, is I hope the kid is allowed to know their birth sex, and understands what society might say.

kid isn't gonna "choose" their gender though. They will BE their gender, regardless of how their raised.

Magus
May 26th, 2011, 07:42 AM
They named their children Jazz, Kio and Storm... awesome!

I will name my children Psiclone, Assassin and Fujiwara.

Continuum
May 26th, 2011, 09:14 AM
They named their children Jazz, Kio and Storm... awesome!

I will name my children Psiclone, Assassin and Fujiwara.

Another alternative, too! (http://www.babynames.com/name/ESPN)

Syvelocin
May 27th, 2011, 01:30 AM
Damn, I like this idea. These parents could either do a huge favour for the kid, or completely screw it up though. I like the idea of not encouraging gender stereotypes. How effective this would be, assuming the parents go about this well, I do not know however. Like Kyle said, the kid is going to be whatever gender it's going to be, it's not like it would choose or force it to be transgender. It could turn out to follow gender stereotypes or not. And also assuming it wouldn't just pick the stereotype up through school.

Magus
May 27th, 2011, 03:24 AM
But but... I thought Gender and Sexuality are two different things.

Bath
May 27th, 2011, 03:45 AM
Eh. I don't really care. They're not hurting the baby. That's all I care about.

Magus
May 27th, 2011, 03:36 PM
They want to remove the baby's genitalia! How evil!

EarthToBryan
May 27th, 2011, 04:21 PM
I think that people should acknowledge what their biological gender is, and choose to be whoever they want to be. Gender doesn't define who you are unless you let what other people think of gender to define who you are, and if that happens you have bigger problems than just gender...

Quick_Sylver
May 27th, 2011, 04:30 PM
But but... I thought Gender and Sexuality are two different things.

Gender: Mental "sex"
Sex: What your biological "gender" is.

I think that people should acknowledge what their biological gender is, and choose to be whoever they want to be. Gender doesn't define who you are unless you let what other people think of gender to define who you are, and if that happens you have bigger problems than just gender...

You don't *choose* what your gender is.
You ARE that gender, regardless of your biological sex.
Mind "sex" =/= Body "sex"

RoseyCadaver
May 27th, 2011, 08:33 PM
all i have to say, is I hope the kid is allowed to know their birth sex, and understands what society might say.

kid isn't gonna "choose" their gender though. They will BE their gender, regardless of how their raised.

That is what I think.You are born (usually) with only male reproductive organs,and female.Now if you want to be masculine or feminine thats there choice.You should teach your kid about what sex has what.

A side note; I find androgynous people cool :D.

Korashk
May 29th, 2011, 06:32 AM
They might actually want their kid to be genderless, but odds are they're just begging for attention... Which they've obviously recieved.
They don't want their kid to be genderless. They're just not imposing a gender on him (I've seen a picture. I'd put money on the kid being male), and instead are allowing him to decide (discover) what his gender is.