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The Joker
May 24th, 2011, 11:43 PM
I've fucking had it with my dad. His absolutely ridiculous hypocritical statements that really personally hurt me. He's constantly telling me that he's not homophobic, and that God loves everyone, and all these things. Right after that, you know what he likes to say? He loves to tell me about how AIDS is mainly a gay disease, gay marriage should be approved because it keeps the AIDS between them, and other things like that. He doesn't know that I am gay, so it's quite apparent to me that he's telling the whole truth because he doesn't know it hurts me.

He told me today about how "gay boys like it up the butt". He's also informed me that it'd be a bad idea to sit next to a gay person, because apparently they first start rubbing your knee, then drag you to the bathroom and rape you. He's not joking. He actually is under the impression that gay people are all immoral sex fiends who want to convert your children to Satanism.

It's just hypocrisy. If you truly thought we were equal, you wouldn't say stupid crap about AIDS being a gay disease, and being gay being a choice. Makes me want to fucking rip his head off. If you want to be able to have a proper conversation with me, then actually talk to me without acting like anytime I say something contradictory to what you said is some sort of jest and that I'm trying to start an argument.

Go fuck yourself, dad. I'm not what you want me to be, and that's OK.

Contra
May 25th, 2011, 11:46 AM
I'm not very good at this, but I'll try.
I understand it's hard, but you can do one of both things.
Either you keep trying and talking to him, ignoring those stupid remarks, showing him you don't care and being nice to him, so maybe he'll stop being like that, or you could ignore him at all, don't talk to him, he will eventually realize the situation and talk to you about it. And you can just answer: "Since when we talk you always think I'm contradicting you and starting a fight, and you always have pretty pointless conversations with me, I have decided not to talk to you at all unless you change your ways." But say that calmly, it will catch him off-guard.

I don't really if this is helpful or if it will work, but well, it's a suggestion...

Good luck :)

Lights
May 25th, 2011, 01:05 PM
Matt (I hope you don't mind me using your name), I think this really gives you a motive to come out of the closet. Trust me when I say I know how immensely difficult it is talking to parents about it, because I've tried to myself.

I think what your dad's been saying is pretty shameful, and if he said that sort of thing publicly to a gay person, he could, and probably would, be prosecuted. Views like that are sickening, yes, but I think your dad comes from a generation that doesn't understand homosexuality very well, if at all. My mum can be frustrating when it comes to homosexuality related topics too. She never says anything, she just cringes sometimes when there are two gay men or something together on the TV. She's not very familiar with it because of the generation she was brought up in. Part of me thinks she's even in denial that I'm gay since I told her. She said to me "I think this could be a phase", I replied "No, this isn't a phase, I'm certain" and she concluded "We'll talk about this more soon". 1 and a half months on, not a word has been said. I don't know if that's because she's in denial, or because she's accepted it and decided not to say anything.

The purpose of me telling you all that was only to show you that I can relate to how you're feeling; perhaps not the same degree, but to some degree at least. Going back to what I said at first, I think this opens up a great opportunity for you to come out with your sexuality. Why? The things your dad's saying are offensive and obscene, and when he's insulting you (even though he doesn't know it), it's just not right. I know you're thinking that your dad's not going to accept you, but I think he will, given time. If he at least knows about your sexuality (even if he does think it's just a phase like I think my mum does), he'll most likely have the courtesy to no longer say these things in front of you. Coming out can be one of the hardest things in the world to do, but it's a risk worth taking. I'm now out at school, and if someone I know asks me if I'm gay or not, I'll tell them I am. Hiding makes you feel all caged up; coming out releases you and gives you vindication.

Although what your dad's been saying is indefensible, see things from his side just a little: he doesn't know you're gay, thus he doesn't know he's offending you. I feel almost certain that if he was aware, he'd cut out all the nonsense. He has nonsensical views, and that's only because he's probably never been taught to know any better. You could open his eyes, make him see that what he's saying is wrong and hurtful.

Give what I've said a little thought anyway. I know it's a very big decision deciding to come out, but I think you've got a great reason to right here. Please feel free to send me a private message if you wanna talk about things any further in private.

ShatteredWings
May 25th, 2011, 02:54 PM
This is a rather devious, but doable suggestion.

Can you set up a fake email and start sending him links debunking some of his crackpot theories, subtly educate him?

It's not safe for you to come out I dont think - maybe if your mother is good about the lgbt thing - though if it is that might get him to shut his trap.

Your dad's a dick, matt. Few more years and you're out of that shit. stay strong.

Peace God
May 28th, 2011, 06:51 PM
Can you set up a fake email and start sending him links debunking some of his crackpot theories, subtly educate him?
Woah, that actually might be a good idea. I say this.