TX Teacher Suspended After Telling Muslim Student 'I Bet You're Grieving'

[ShyGuyInChicago]

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/tx-teacher-suspended-after-telling-muslim-student-i-bet-youre-grieving.php?ref=dcblt

A Texas high school teacher has been placed on administrative leave following an incident where he allegedly told a 9th grade Muslim girl in his algebra class "I bet that you're grieving" on Monday following the death of Osama bin Laden.

According to one parent at Clear Brook High School in Houston who spoke about the incident to a local ABC affiliate, the teacher also said, "I heard about your uncle's death."

The parent said the student "understood that he was referring about Osama bin Laden being killed and was racially profiling her."

The name of the alleged victim of the comment has not been released. She is being described as an "American-born girl of Muslim faith."

The teacher allegedly showed no remorse after Muslim girl reacted to his comments, according to the parent (who requested anonymity from the ABC station because "she doesn't want any retaliation against her daughter or the girl who experienced the inappropriate comment.")

"The student ended up crying over what was said to her by the teacher and the teacher asked her why she was crying and another student said it was because of what you said earlier," the parent told the station. "And his response was, oh, OK, and just kind of smirked and giggled and walked away."

The Houston Chronicle reports the unidentified teacher "has been placed on administrative leave" following the alleged remark. The Chronicle published this official statement from the school district:

In the Clear Creek Independent School District, we believe diversity strengthens our community and seek opportunities to celebrate the different cultures within our schools and neighborhoods. The sentiments allegedly shared by this teacher are not reflective of the staff at Clear Brook High School or anyone within the Clear Creek Independent School District.

In accordance with CCISD policy, the teacher has been placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of a personnel investigation. The student did the right thing and immediately notified an adult regarding the teachers' comments. The principal at Clear Brook High School notified the child's parents and has been in communication with the family.

The alleged incident in Texas is just the latest in a short string of small incidents targeting American Muslims following the death of bin Laden. A mosque in Portland, ME was vandalized in what police there are calling a hate crime and a Muslim unity rally was canceled in Portland, OR after organizers feared reprisals from both non-Muslims upset over terrorism and Muslims who organizers said might be angry by an event that supported the killing of bin Laden.

[Infidelitas]

Not all muslims are bad..There are some that are really nice

[Ambrosia]

That is HORRIBLE. That poor girl. Some people are just horrid...

[anonymous53]

*Sigh* People need to realize that all muslims aren't about the same thing.
The same way all Christians don't gay bash
All german's don't want to kill Jewish people
Russians aren't all communists.

[Magus]

Hey guys, I am Muslim, and I hate you guys. You all gonna die and burn in hell! AHAHAHAHA! OSAMA FTW! AHAHAHA!

Seriously now. When will some people really start to grow up?

[embers]

Lol, I got those jokes too, and it's funny because I'm not a Muslim.

[Kaya]

That was rude :/

Why are people so racist?

[Jess]

he should have been fired immediately. seriously.

[Amnesiac]

Of course it's in Friendswood. Quite a conservative place out there. Upper-middle-class suburbia at its finest.

But no, this isn't representative of Houston, which is actually quite a liberal city.

He should be fired. Let someone who needs a job get that position. He obviously doesn't take his position of authority seriously.

[Suicune]

What a legitimate asshole he is...

[Ender]

A teacher cracked a joke at one of my friends; "How are you holding up now that your uncle is dead?" and he is hearing worse. Luckily he has a great sense of humor, but this is bullshit. Stop being stereotypical assholes.

[PoseidonX43]

adults need to grow up

[Azunite]

Not all muslims are bad..There are some that are really nice


Seriously, you should grow up. VT SHOULD FUCKING GROW UP NOW

[Magus]

Seriously, you should grow up. VT SHOULD FUCKING GROW UP NOWDude, I am a late bloomer, so it will take a while.

[Infidelitas]

seriously, you should grow up. Vt should fucking grow up now

what the fuck?????? Why?? what have I done wrong????Why neg rep me?

[tpzy94]

omg get over it people are soo sensitive smh aint like he started singing the anthem or nada im sure it was a joke wow poeple soft nowadays

[Infidelitas]

Seriously, you should grow up. VT SHOULD FUCKING GROW UP NOW

Are you going to disagree with everyone here, or is it just me?

[Obscene Eyedeas]

It is funny to see that a teacher who insults a Muslim is suspended and everyone is up in arms yet many teachers who insult other religions or aspects of students don't get the sack. It is also funny to see how much it bothers people, people need to chillax about these things.

1. Could have been a joke.
2. Everyone says stupid things.
3. People do that shit everyday.

[Azunite]

Despite you acted like a dumbfuck and neg repped me in return, I will take things easy now.

"Not all Muslims are bad, there are some good Muslims too"
This means "1.5 Billion Muslims are bad terrorists who follow the ways of a stupid war-lover creature called Allah but there are also few good Muslims"

Nobody here said such things and you are maybe like the only person I have seen in VT who insulted Muslims. Apart from trolls, of course.
And you are supposed to be a peacemaker moderator. And I have thought you were a nice smart guy who loved to participate in debates and show his opinion.

So what do they teach you in news or school? Do they teach Muslims belong to a demonic cult whose only aim is to spread terror and agony? But well I digress.

Anyway, think twice before you present your biased opinions.

[Magus]

So what do they teach you in news or school? Do they teach Muslims belong to a demonic cult whose only aim is to spread terror and agony? But well I digress.
Brah, it's written in the Karano to killz teh infidels. that Mo slim are an evil cult made by a pedofile profitz wiht evil glowing red eyez who shootz fireballz from their handza, brah!

Your arguments is now destroyed by mine! Ahahahaha.

God Bless Amerikha! Thank you.
http://growabrain.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/god_bless_america_1.jpg

[Tiberius]

Ummmm...this guy shouldn't be fired or even put on probation for this. I mean, seriously. There isn't any proof and there's a shaky comment from some teen-aged girl that might have it out for this man. People are so jumpy now.

[Infidelitas]

Despite you acted like a dumbfuck and neg repped me in return, I will take things easy now.

"Not all Muslims are bad, there are some good Muslims too"
This means "1.5 Billion Muslims are bad terrorists who follow the ways of a stupid war-lover creature called Allah but there are also few good Muslims"

Nobody here said such things and you are maybe like the only person I have seen in VT who insulted Muslims. Apart from trolls, of course.
And you are supposed to be a peacemaker moderator. And I have thought you were a nice smart guy who loved to participate in debates and show his opinion.

So what do they teach you in news or school? Do they teach Muslims belong to a demonic cult whose only aim is to spread terror and agony? But well I digress.

Anyway, think twice before you present your biased opinions.

I never insulted them!!! I didnt word it properly. I should have said Most are good people, but the select few that arent, but you have offended me by calling me a dumbfuck for a simple misconception.

Im sorry for having dyslexia, and has trouble constructing sentences.

[Perseus]

Ummmm...this guy shouldn't be fired or even put on probation for this. I mean, seriously. There isn't any proof and there's a shaky comment from some teen-aged girl that might have it out for this man. People are so jumpy now.

You obviously haven't experienced the South, Chris. I don't doubt what happened at all. They're investigating the matter, and if they never took anything seriously, then nothing would ever get done.

[Magus]

but you have offended me by calling me a dumbfuck for a simple misconception.

Im sorry for having dyslexia, and has trouble constructing sentences.
Now - now, boys. Suleimon, apologise to him in private. We all make mistakes, now don't we?

[Azunite]

I never insulted them!!! I didnt word it properly. I should have said Most are good people, but the select few that arent, but you have offended me by calling me a dumbfuck for a simple misconception.

Im sorry for having dyslexia, and has trouble constructing sentences.

You really got to be kidding me. I adressed you with that adjective because you try to put limits by saying "least" or "most". I see that you like to use "Muslim" as an adjective when referring to terrorists.

[Peace God]

I think a lot of people are overreacting, but this is a great reminder that these kinds of jokes are losing taste fast (well, from the little bit that it had in the first place).

So what do they teach you in news or school? Do they teach Muslims belong to a demonic cult whose only aim is to spread terror and agony?

No, they teach that the American Public School System is completely worthless and that all Americans are selfish and ignorant people that don't know anything about other countries.

...oh wait, that's you.

[Tiberius]

You really got to be kidding me. I adressed you with that adjective because you try to put limits by saying "least" or "most". I see that you like to use "Muslim" as an adjective when referring to terrorists.

You seem to forget that the terrorists in question like to be described as Muslims.

[Azunite]

You seem to forget that the terrorists in question like to be described as Muslims.

That is what I am trying to fix. Though other people use Muslim as an insult. Terrorist like to adress themselves as Muslims because they fight against Christianity

[Nevermore]

I'd like to think of it as terrorists are hypocrites. They can't be Muslim can they? Why not? Because it goes against their basic beliefs in what they do. Same goes for Christianity and the crusades. They are hypocritical, and not true followers of their belief, therego, they are not what they say they are. What they say they are is a mere mask to justify their actions to themselves so they aren't guilty.
However no one should say that to a student. That is so unacceptable.

[Infidelitas]

That is what I am trying to fix. Though other people use Muslim as an insult. Terrorist like to adress themselves as Muslims because they fight against Christianity

Just putting it out there, i wasnt trying to offend anyone, and im sorry if i have

[Magus]

I'd like to think of it as terrorists are hypocrites. They can't be Muslim can they? Why not? Because it goes against their basic beliefs in what they do. Same goes for Christianity and the crusades. They are hypocritical, and not true followers of their belief, therego, they are not what they say they are. What they say they are is a mere mask to justify their actions to themselves so they aren't guilty.
However no one should say that to a student. That is so unacceptable.

No, the one you call terrorist, call themselves Jihadist. Why do they call themselves as Jihadist, is because Islam teaches us to fight against an invasion, to struggle against "oppression"(in this case, America).

America initiated the war. Osama Bin laden helped Sudan, America attacked Sudan, and thus he raised awareness among Muslim that America is fighting against Muslims, so Osama retaliated, doing the 9/11 and other bombings thereafter.

[Nevermore]

Oh okay, thank you. :) I didn't know that.

[Triceratops]

Haha, that's pretty funny. Those are the kinds of things we say to our Indian friends.

[Magus]

Haha, that's pretty funny. Those are the kinds of things we say to our Indian friends.And I bet they are not even Muslims. I even bet you call them Arabs.

But still it's not cool, some Sikhs were killed out of hate crime, this is because the perpetrator thought they were Muslims.

[Lights]

Ummmm...this guy shouldn't be fired or even put on probation for this. I mean, seriously. There isn't any proof and there's a shaky comment from some teen-aged girl that might have it out for this man. People are so jumpy now.

Her guilt would catch up to her if this man got fired because she made something so distasteful up.
How could she really prove it happened anyway? It's like if a teacher touched one of his female students up, how could that be proven? You just have to take the student's word for it, because we all have guilt inside of us, and it takes a very steel-hearted person to make something up that results in someone losing their job, and potentially getting a criminal record. Not many teenagers at all would go to lengths like this just to spite a teacher they didn't like.

[derkderpderp]

lool, i love the hate people have over an entire 'type' of people, such as muslims, emos, idk anything bc of the actions and ideas of a few fucked-in-the-head individuals.

good fun, bin laden wages holy war on the entire western hemisphere (a bit ott?), and he attacks one the most powerful nations in the world, and just because he did it in the name of Islam (ive been brought up a muslim btw) when most muslims will tell you that it wasnt a justified jihad in any fucking way, but yeah just because he said he did it in the name of Islam and god apparently all muslims are terrorists? weird much? lool, im still waiting for the weird conspiracy theories like idk maybe OBL was part of the Illuminati and hes not really dead hes just some weird metamorph from the future and what not, lool.
This story sucks, racism and discrimination in any which way shouldnt be tolerated, it shouldnt be used as a joke unless the person making the joke knows that noone will be offended so idk, this blows, i feel sorry for the girl and the teacher shouldve got his ass fired but whatever.

My point is: why is everyone being so weird and judging an entire people by the actions of some jerkwad who was probably dropped at birth and stamped on.
eek lol, sorry if ive offended anyone :D


oh btw @Electric Nomad, i get what you mean about the whole war thing, but in Islam arent we taught to be peaceful instead of being petty? and how on earth is the 9/11 thing justified in any way? were the people in the twin towers all people of power in America? were they the people sending the armies out and killing people in sudan or wherever? no, OBL and al fucking qaeda did wrong by killing innocent people, and yes in sudan and wherever else the USA has invaded innocents have been killed but thats only bc of the leaders of those countries turning their own people against the USA who more than likely wouldnt have attacked civilians or whatever if they werent being fired at themselves.
In war people die, but for reasons, i.e "this persons shooting at me, i also have a gun so im going to try and shoot him back", thats ok i suppose, what isnt ok is " oh look heres 2 towers with loadsa innocent people in them and if i kill them all and knock the towers down maybe i can kill more innocent people, bc that would make the ruling powers stop what theyre doing in my country", i mean what backasswards way of thinking is that? its like going up to an innocent person and punching them in the face expecting not to get punched back?It was because OF 9/11 that america then invaded afghanistan searching for bin fucking laden. killing innocents isnt justified in any fucking way, thats not islamic, thats evil.

[bisguy3]

that is discusting. she should be let go.

[Magus]

oh btw @Electric Nomad, i get what you mean about the whole war thing, but in Islam arent we taught to be peaceful instead of being petty? and how on earth is the 9/11 thing justified in any way? were the people in the twin towers all people of power in America? were they the people sending the armies out and killing people in sudan or wherever? no, OBL and al fucking qaeda did wrong by killing innocent people, and yes in sudan and wherever else the USA has invaded innocents have been killed but thats only bc of the leaders of those countries turning their own people against the USA who more than likely wouldnt have attacked civilians or whatever if they werent being fired at themselves.
In war people die, but for reasons, i.e "this persons shooting at me, i also have a gun so im going to try and shoot him back", thats ok i suppose, what isnt ok is " oh look heres 2 towers with loadsa innocent people in them and if i kill them all and knock the towers down maybe i can kill more innocent people, bc that would make the ruling powers stop what theyre doing in my country", i mean what backasswards way of thinking is that? its like going up to an innocent person and punching them in the face expecting not to get punched back?It was because OF 9/11 that america then invaded afghanistan searching for bin fucking laden. killing innocents isnt justified in any fucking way, thats not islamic, thats evil.

Honestly, I didn't understand half of what you have said. Here (http://www.grammarbook.com/english_rules.asp) <- You might want to brush up on your grammar. And I hope, in the future, I can clearly understand what you are trying to say. But I will reply from what I have understood from you. And place separate sentences, because it is easier to read if you do that, man.

No, Islam brought us up as peaceful people, and made sure that we are aware of our enemies as well.

9/11 isn't justified in any way, it was a retribution for all we know. America initiated the attack, and they got 9/11 for their involvement in the mid-east specifically Palestine and Sudan, where they launched attacks in Sudan, causing an uproar amongst the Muslims. They didn't send armies, they launched areal attacks using long-ranged rockets -- and you call that fair? They Killed innocent people - are Sudanese low people, and it's ok to kill them? Is that attack Justified like the 9/11? No, not at all. So, yeah. Killing Arab-Negroes is OK, but killing Americans is Not, huh?

Remember, Osama is a Salafist - the most conservative and hotheaded form of Sunni Islam. Consider them as... any way.

Well, America Killed almost million of Iraqis - not soldiers, not military: Children and Elderly. America Killed Ten of Thousands of Afghanis - again, not Taliban, not Al-Qaeda, but Innocent poor people. <- Killing them is OK, man. Use them as shooting targets, it's justified - they are poor people with no future. But Killing Americans is not. Don't Kill Israelis, that's Ant-Semetism, but kill Palestinian children, that's OK. Kill Bosnian, they are fucking Muslim, it's Ok!

By the words of your uncle, George W. Bush, called it a Crusade - and we all understand it in its historical context i.e Christian fighting against the Muslims. And that's how Osama understood it, too -- a holy war against Islam.

You have said in your own words, "America is the strongest nation" - because of that stroked ego and boasting Americans have, with the 9/11 proved the fragility of America. But then again, no conspiracy here, but George Bush knew of the attack, but never stopped it, and let thousands of innocent people to die, so he can have an elaborate excuse to attack his enemies - Iraq, Afghanistan and what not.

If Bush was still in control, he would've went to Libya - because we know America is a Materialistic country, seeking only benefits for its people - he wants to soak in Mid-Eastern oil.

What is there not to hate about the West, if all what they make us do is to bow to them like slaves. Is that Justice in our eyes, no - not justice. And Osama Bin Laden wanted to prove that exact point, his disdain towards this American, if not western, tyranny.

With all the atrocities American did, nobody raised a word or finger. But when a brown Muslim Guy with a beard attacks America, then he is the BAD GUY. Not George W. Bush. Don't trial him, he is the good guy. Sure. He is.

I am not anti-American. I never was. In fact, I love the American art and culture. Hell, I even adopted many thing you guys consider American, from food to clothing. Even my fucking accent is American. I stopped saying Wa-teh(Water), and I say Wadar instead. I am even a fucking active pacifist, a hippie - I use words, not black powder like Osama did.

But please don't kill us, just because we are brown, we worship an incomprehensible abstract being instead a dead guy on a cross, and we have funny accents.

If you want to come to us, come to us peacefully - we will share the oil. Just don't kill us! You can come and expand your corporations, no problem - do that. Just don't treat us as ants that you can step on, that's all.

[embers]

They Killed innocent people - are Sudanese low people, and it's ok to kill them? Is that attack Justified like the 9/11? No, not at all. So, yeah. Killing Arab-Negroes is OK, but killing Americans is Not, huh?

...

Well, America Killed almost million of Iraqis - not soldiers, not military: Children and Elderly. America Killed Ten of Thousands of Afghanis - again, not Taliban, not Al-Qaeda, but Innocent poor people. <- Killing them is OK, man. Use them as shooting targets, it's justified - they are poor people with no future. But Killing Americans is not. Don't Kill Israelis, that's Ant-Semetism, but kill Palestinian children, that's OK. Kill Bosnian, they are fucking Muslim, it's Ok!

That does remind me of the things David Starkey (a british historian) said on Young Voters' Question Time a while ago. Using his terminology, the insurgents that kill British/American soldiers and commit violent acts of terrorism are, of course, 'inhumane'. However, when faced with the fuckups and murders of the American and British armies, he calls the situation 'silly'.

So it's silly when you kill innocents in other countries, but when the tides turn and they are killing you, it's inhumane and cruel. Makes a lot of sense.

Damn, I love that mindset. It makes me laugh so hard.

[RoseyCadaver]

I live right next to Texas(Arkansas) and if this is even remotely true it makes me ashamed to live in the South T-T.Sadly,a lot people see a group for the bad things they have.So many Muslims are good and everyday normal people,yet some extremist come out and people view the whole group as the extermist :[.I myself know a couple of people who are Muslim,they're normal people like us.Shame shame on that man for even saying such things.