Friend wants to sell Xanex

[lightkun]

She wants so sell Xanex to kids at school. I can't tell you how disappointed I am in her. I know that she isn't going to take them, but she and I know full well what pills do to ppl. Im sad that she feels like she needs to make people addicted to something to get money. :( what can I tell her. Im afraid to fight with her on this.

[JunkBondTrader]

Then don't! If she wants to put herself in some kind of unnecessary danger then frankly, it's not your problem. At the same time, anyone she sells them to most likely knows what they're doing, or at least thinks they do.

Talk to her, tell her she's alone on this one. But at the same time be glad it's just Xanax and not heroin.

[Dimitri]

I have ot agree, this frankly is not your problem. But your problem is you know this and you know you cannot comfront her, you need to talk to one of your guidance councilors abotu this and make sure they know. Xanex is too powerful to be messed with and this needs to be addressed quickly and appropriatly.

[JunkBondTrader]

I have ot agree, this frankly is not your problem. But your problem is you know this and you know you cannot comfront her, you need to talk to one of your guidance councilors abotu this and make sure they know. Xanex is too powerful to be messed with and this needs to be addressed quickly and appropriatly.

Telling on her probably isn't the best idea. Not saying ratting someone out is totally bad but in this situation it's his friend. He tells on her there could be serious repercussions, posession with intent is not something most schools and police forces take lightly. I'd just stay well out of it. It's not his problem and it doesn't need to be. Let her make her own mistakes.

[Cap'nCrunch]

Telling on her probably isn't the best idea. Not saying ratting someone out is totally bad but in this situation it's his friend. He tells on her there could be serious repercussions, posession with intent is not something most schools and police forces take lightly. I'd just stay well out of it. It's not his problem and it doesn't need to be. Let her make her own mistakes.

I'm gonna have to agree with this. I don't know what your sources are, "Dr. Levi," but Xanax is hardly 'dangerous' and doesn't warrant 'quick' action. It's a stupid situation for this would-be drug dealer to get wrapped up in, but the drug itself isn't exactly a societal menace.

If this is a close friend, try to convince them out of selling Xanax. A true friend wouldn't be worried about getting into a simple fight if they're looking out for the other. But in no way should you get involved. Tell her what you think and leave it at that.

[Dimitri]

I'm gonna have to agree with this. I don't know what your sources are, "Dr. Levi," but Xanax is hardly 'dangerous' and doesn't warrant 'quick' action. It's a stupid situation for this would-be drug dealer to get wrapped up in, but the drug itself isn't exactly a societal menace.
http://www.pdrhealth.com/drugs/xanax

Here you go and I can get more if you need them, there are not many teenagers or young adults let alone children who can tell you exactly what Xanax does to the human body or how it interacts with the body in addition to other medications due to contraindications or the medication itself. The reason why it is to be perscribed by a physician is so he/she can check and make sure there are no contraindications to the medications already being perscribed to the person.

My freshmen year of high school a student bought some Xanax from another student and due to the medications he was already taking had a seizure at the top of the stairs and fell down three flights and died because he landed on his neck.

So please, I my be a teenager myself but do not patronize me because I am young and due to stareotypes assume that I have no idea what I am talking about.

[staying_alive]

I have ot agree, this frankly is not your problem. But your problem is you know this and you know you cannot comfront her, you need to talk to one of your guidance councilors abotu this and make sure they know. Xanex is too powerful to be messed with and this needs to be addressed quickly and appropriatly.

You are definitely correct in that it's not the OP's problem that her friend is making a dumb decision in selling the pills. However, the only time an adult should really be informed of the situation, despite what the school system wants you to believe, is if someone is at risk of harming themselves - specifically to the point of suicide. The OP's situation doesn't really fit this, as the friend said she wouldn't be taking the Xanax.

And OP, your friend won't avoid it. She'll take it eventually. You don't sell pills without taking them on your own, it's like a car salesman trying to sell you a car without knowing the model or ever having driven it. It's ineffective marketing, and unfortunately drug dealers must succumb to the laws of sales. How is your friend getting these pills if she doesnt' take them as a prescription anyway? Normally the network for pills isn't that complicated - maybe one middle man, but someone who has access to them doesn't normally distribute them to lower sellers...that's pretty risky.

I don't know what your sources are, "Dr. Levi," but Xanax is hardly 'dangerous' and doesn't warrant 'quick' action. It's a stupid situation for this would-be drug dealer to get wrapped up in, but the drug itself isn't exactly a societal menace.

If this is a close friend, try to convince them out of selling Xanax. A true friend wouldn't be worried about getting into a simple fight if they're looking out for the other. But in no way should you get involved. Tell her what you think and leave it at that.

I have to disagree with you here. Xanax, while not as serious as Dr. Levi apparently thinks, is still a very risky pill. It's a short term benzodiazepine med for anxiety, and benzos have some of the worst withdrawl symptoms of any medication. Those prescribed it absolutely hate it - you'll never find someone who says "boy, do I love taking my xanax every day". And these withdrawl symptoms can be fatal if someone's been taking it long enough or took a high enough dose.

OP, definitely talk to your friend and nothing more. If your friend comes to her senses, which she likely will after she realizes how little money it makes her, then things will return to normal immediately. Don't turn it into an emotional escapade - if she doesn't see her stupidity soon, she will when she gets busted. Dealing pills carries a heavy sentence if the prosecutor pursues it.

[JunkBondTrader]

Those prescribed it absolutely hate it - you'll never find someone who says "boy, do I love taking my xanax every day". And these withdrawl symptoms can be fatal if someone's been taking it long enough or took a high enough dose.

Are you sure? I've never taken Xanax since it's somewhat less common in the UK but I myself have used and abused just about every other benzodiazepine on the market over the years. I'm not proud of this, valium probably did me more harm than good, but it and other drugs in it's class are so widely abused I can't quite believe that it's that unpleasant.

EDIT: Gotta say, spot on about the withdrawal though. I never got addicted, thank god, but I've heard it's harder to come off than heroin.

[staying_alive]

Are you sure? I've never taken Xanax since it's somewhat less common in the UK but I myself have used and abused just about every other benzodiazepine on the market over the years. I'm not proud of this, valium probably did me more harm than good, but it and other drugs in it's class are so widely abused I can't quite believe that it's that unpleasant.

EDIT: Gotta say, spot on about the withdrawal though. I never got addicted, thank god, but I've heard it's harder to come off than heroin.

Well you have to remember that "using and abusing" is not like a prescription. I know people who abuse adderall and love the high from it, but I myself take it prescribed and the only "high" I get is a non-swinging mood. The only reason I continue to take it is to be consistent in my work. The same applies for xanax - people take it prescribed, looking for the benefits it brings, not for the high that others seek. And at the same time they hope to never get off it (even though they know they'll have to at some point), because of the withdrawl.

Benzos are definitely widely abused, to a somewhat dangerous level. Sure, taking a Xanax or a valium once in your life for a fun time won't kill you. The problem is the ambiguous relative dose and that pesky withdrawl.

People don't understand what they should take; they just take a pill from a drug dealer who tells them "it'll be awesome". If the dealer got the pill from someone who's had a script for 5+ years, it'll be a much higher dose than someone new to the medication should take. So someone looking to have a good time has an AWESOME time, but they wake up vomiting and have terrible head pain. This is withdrawl, and yes, there are many cases of people experiencing it after the first time taking a benzo.

Just be careful, always check the milligram# on the pill with google to see how that measures up to a typical dose. The drug is not super safe, but isn't super dangerous either if one takes the necessary precautions.

[aperson444]

I don't know anyone who abuses benzos for no reason. Most of the time, people who use stimulants like meth or amphetamines (MDMA, D-Amph, etc) use Xanax to come down. Sometimes psychedelic users will take half a Xanax to sleep after a trip, but for the most part, people who use Xanax tend to be desperate kids or addicts who need another drug. With that said, as far as I know, Benzo withdrawal is painful, it's not too far off from alcohol addiction. Even people who use it as a prescription take the risk of addiction and nasty withdrawal.

[restricted NA]

She shouldn't sell any of those pills first off she doesn't the proper dosage, people could over dose, have an allergic reaction to them. And last its just wrong, tell her that you don't want her to sell them and if she doesn't listen tell an adult because this is a extremely serious issue. Good luck

[aperson444]

Most pills have an ID number stamped on them indicating the dosage. It's up to the buyer to look it up and adjust the dose accordingly. I know that many people will take a few (2-3 mg) milligrams beyond the suggested dose and turn out fine, but some might have adverse effects like respiratory depression etc.

All in all, there are safer drugs (cannabis, psychedelics, MDMA) that have less acute complications, but Xanax is definitely safer than a lot of opiates. Generally in the US, the white bar tablets are 2 mg. For an adult, that's a normal dose. For people under 16, I'd say half of that is much safer....

[Obscene Eyedeas]

She shouldn't sell any of those pills first off she doesn't the proper dosage, people could over dose, have an allergic reaction to them. And last its just wrong, tell her that you don't want her to sell them and if she doesn't listen tell an adult because this is a extremely serious issue. Good luck

No offense but dealers don't think about dosage why would they? If she is going to deal she's going to deal. If you don't want her to, try and talk with her ultimately she'll do what she wants.

[JunkBondTrader]

People don't understand what they should take; they just take a pill from a drug dealer who tells them "it'll be awesome". If the dealer got the pill from someone who's had a script for 5+ years, it'll be a much higher dose than someone new to the medication should take. So someone looking to have a good time has an AWESOME time, but they wake up vomiting and have terrible head pain. This is withdrawl, and yes, there are many cases of people experiencing it after the first time taking a benzo.

Of course there's a difference, but one could actually take pretty much any (non-lethal) dose of, say, Valium and wake up without withdrawal symptoms. Withdrawal only occurs once you become physically dependent on the drug which, with nearly all benzos, or at least diazepam, takes three weeks of non-stop usage, not a large dose on one occasion.

[carlitosway]

dont get involved in that mess. steer clear. could ruin ur life if u r with her if she get arrested for selling. they will arrest u 2!

[Drake14]

selling drugs is no joke. Police have a huge boner ffor the war on drugs so theres no telling. I wouldnt risk it.

[staying_alive]

Of course there's a difference, but one could actually take pretty much any (non-lethal) dose of, say, Valium and wake up without withdrawal symptoms. Withdrawal only occurs once you become physically dependent on the drug which, with nearly all benzos, or at least diazepam, takes three weeks of non-stop usage, not a large dose on one occasion.

I know logically physical addiction must occur for withdrawal. However, there are definitely cases, albeit irregular ones, where people experience withdrawal after the first or second time. It's not something to be super concerned with if someone's thinking of using benzos, but still something to be aware of. And all the more reason to check the dose...if you're gonna take pills, be as smart as possible about it.

dont get involved in that mess. steer clear. could ruin ur life if u r with her if she get arrested for selling. they will arrest u 2!

True. However, it doesnt' sound like the OP is ready to get involved in the drug selling, so I don't think it's an issue. I still somewhat doubt that her friend, unless she has a prescription for Xanax, will find it appealing. Getting pills from a dealer and then reselling them can't be very profitable, and involving a middle man always increases the risk of getting caught.

selling drugs is no joke. Police have a huge boner ffor the war on drugs so theres no telling. I wouldnt risk it.

lol @ the police boner part. I think you're thinking of the quote-unquote War On Drugs that the government is pushing. Cops, in general, are looking for harder drugs like cocaine, heroin, etc. Some care about weed, but I've heard many stories of people just getting their weed taken when they get caught by cops, no penalty or anything. Pills are definitely not a top priority, and I doubt the OP's friend will ever get caught by cops. She might get caught by the school though (which would involve the cops)...

[JunkBondTrader]

I know logically physical addiction must occur for withdrawal. However, there are definitely cases, albeit irregular ones, where people experience withdrawal after the first or second time. It's not something to be super concerned with if someone's thinking of using benzos, but still something to be aware of. And all the more reason to check the dose...if you're gonna take pills, be as smart as possible about it.

Fair play, I can't really argue with that. But yes, immediate withdrawal must be extremely uncommon and I've never heard of it myself.

Is it a full-blown physical withdrawal or just a psychological one?

[bleedoutlove]

Please try to get her out of it. But never grass people up. Ever. It will ruin your friendship, and conspiracy to sell drugs isn't a good thing to have on record.

[staying_alive]

Fair play, I can't really argue with that. But yes, immediate withdrawal must be extremely uncommon and I've never heard of it myself.

Is it a full-blown physical withdrawal or just a psychological one?

There was a post on this forum (I think) a while back where someone took a benzo and talked about throwing up with a terrible headache the next morning. If I remember correctly the conclusion of the thread was that they could indeed be suffering physical withdrawl that soon, mainly because of the symptoms listed. I'll search around for it when I get a chance.

Psych withdrawl, as far as I know, would occur much more quickly with stimulants. Of course physical withdrawl does set in, but the increased brain activity from stims causes the person taking it to crave that once it's all gone. Headaches often happen because of the stim-crash, i.e. going from high brain activity to lower activity.

This is not something I've researched extensively, so this is my opinion/thoughts only, nothing medically certified or anything.

[Drew7]

just say no

[Φρανκομβριτ]

I just recently started this medication (as per perscription), and was sent home the following day from taking it for fainting.

I understand your friend may want to make a quick buck, but she is putting peoples lives in danger. Benzodiazepine class drugs are not to be messed with (not that any drugs are). Some people, like my sister, do not mix well with the drug, causing intense, and scary hallucinations. This is very serious and your friend should consider the lives she may be putting at risk before selling another pill.

[staying_alive]

I just recently started this medication (as per perscription), and was sent home the following day from taking it for fainting.

I understand your friend may want to make a quick buck, but she is putting peoples lives in danger. Benzodiazepine class drugs are not to be messed with (not that any drugs are). Some people, like my sister, do not mix well with the drug, causing intense, and scary hallucinations. This is very serious and your friend should consider the lives she may be putting at risk before selling another pill.

Yes but there's always people who don't mix well with a certain drug. It's never a good idea to sell/do drugs, but people take the risk every day. The important thing to remember in this situation is that her friend will likely not last long. It sounds like she's in high school from what I can gather, and there's not exactly a huge market for Xanax there.

I don't think her friend will not do it just because of the potential for killing someone, just because no teenager realizes that kind of consequence until it happens. Let's hope the OP's friend stops before it gets to that though.

[Cap'nCrunch]

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drugs/xanax

Here you go and I can get more if you need them, there are not many teenagers or young adults let alone children who can tell you exactly what Xanax does to the human body or how it interacts with the body in addition to other medications due to contraindications or the medication itself. The reason why it is to be perscribed by a physician is so he/she can check and make sure there are no contraindications to the medications already being perscribed to the person.

My freshmen year of high school a student bought some Xanax from another student and due to the medications he was already taking had a seizure at the top of the stairs and fell down three flights and died because he landed on his neck.

So please, I my be a teenager myself but do not patronize me because I am young and due to stareotypes assume that I have no idea what I am talking about.

Sorry to give the impression that I was patronizing or insulting you because of your age; the reason I said what I did is because I disagreed with what you said or I felt your statements were incorrect. I'm well aware of the consequences of drug abuse and of benzodiazepines' mode of action. I felt like you are treating the situation with greater gravity than is necessary. So, I'm just going to say again to OP: don't report your friend and don't get involved--just try to stop her.

[rolex]

dont do any drugs not precribed by a doctor

[Ruzlier]

Umm, are you stupid? She isn't making people addicted to Xanx, people want to take it, by that logic, a pharmacist is horrible, HORRIBLE person in your eyes, as they are dealing drugs to tons of people, legally, and feel good about it.


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dont do any drugs not precribed by a doctor
Actually prescription pills have been proven to be the most harmful drugs of all - prescribed or not.

[staying_alive]

Umm, are you stupid? She isn't making people addicted to Xanx, people want to take it, by that logic, a pharmacist is horrible, HORRIBLE person in your eyes, as they are dealing drugs to tons of people, legally, and feel good about it.

Close, but no cigar. A pharmacist fills prescriptions that a doctor writes. This happens after a diagnosis process that, depending on the medication, can be very intensive for a patient. When the pros of the medication outweigh the side effects, it is prescribed for a patient.

Dealing Xanax on the street doesn't include a diagnosis, and does indeed give an addict a means to their end. The above poster is not stupid; they are perhaps a bit biased against drugs and a tad melodramatic concerning drug dealing (possibly because of past experience, etc.). A pharmacist "deals" drugs, but their medical schooling and that of the prescribing physician puts the patient in much safer hands than with a street drug dealer.


Actually prescription pills have been proven to be the most harmful drugs of all - prescribed or not.

Source for the testing that proved this? Street methamphetamine, heroin, and cocaine seem to me much more harmful in the short term. Although I can see how certain prescription drugs, over a lifetime, will have significant harmful effects.