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Death
April 29th, 2011, 10:47 AM
As much as I hate to agree with him, the Times is more liberal than Fox News is conservative. (Though that has no bearing on the study itself)

Just out of idle curiocity (and I'm not trying to refute you here), how do you know?

For the record Death (and everyone else), it is EXTREMELY bad etiquette to repost a PM without the consent of the sender. If you have a problem with a PM,

And usually that would matter, but the content of the PM itself was enough to make me not care about his consent. Besides, he did exactly the same thing to me.

report it.

I did.

EDIT: I just thought I should clarrify for anyone who hasn't seen this before that I didn't actually create this topic as such, but it was extracted out of another when a new, off-topic argument arose.

Sith Lord 13
April 29th, 2011, 11:04 AM
Just out of idle curiocity (and I'm not trying to refute you here), how do you know?

My school carries it, and it is better than nothing if you know how to read through the bias.

And usually that would matter, but the content of the PM itself was enough to make me not care about his consent. Besides, he did exactly the same thing to me.

If he did it first and I overlooked it, I apologize for directing it at you. If he did it in response... well, once the other person does it, it's fair game.

Death
April 29th, 2011, 11:10 AM
My school carries it, and it is better than nothing if you know how to read through the bias.

What do you personally think about The Times then? Do you think its information is reliable compared to Fox News?

If he did it first and I overlooked it, I apologize for directing it at you. If he did it in response... well, once the other person does it, it's fair game.

Well I don't really mind seeing that what I said was nothing (and sincere) compared with all that he said.

Sith Lord 13
April 29th, 2011, 03:50 PM
What do you personally think about The Times then? Do you think its information is reliable compared to Fox News?

I feel both are accurate, from a certain point of view, and that the truth can be gathered by reading carefully and filtering out the bias by hand to get the true facts.

Death
April 29th, 2011, 04:16 PM
I feel both are accurate, from a certain point of view, and that the truth can be gathered by reading carefully and filtering out the bias by hand to get the true facts.

This video from Fox News was based off a complete and ludicrous lie:

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Given Bill O'Reilly's blatent inability to argue without resorting to primitive nonsense...

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...I wouldn't rush to gather truth from Fox News.

Blake1994
April 29th, 2011, 06:08 PM
This video from Fox News was based off a complete and ludicrous lie:

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Given Bill O'Reilly's blatent inability to argue without resorting to primitive nonsense...

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...I wouldn't rush to gather truth from Fox News.

There ain't nothing wrong with Fox News. I'd rather get my news from them than anyone else.

Rainstorm
April 29th, 2011, 08:15 PM
There ain't nothing wrong with Fox News. I'd rather get my news from them than anyone else.

Wonder why. Religious bigots or biased to conservatism and the military.

Or all of the above?

Blake1994
April 29th, 2011, 10:10 PM
Wonder why. Religious bigots or biased to conservatism and the military.

Or all of the above?

No. They aren't afraid to tell the truth and depict the news as it should be by presenting it in a fair and balanced nature. They wouldn't be allowed on the air if they weren't telling the truth.

Korashk
April 29th, 2011, 10:19 PM
They wouldn't be allowed on the air if they weren't telling the truth.
This is false.

CaptainObvious
April 29th, 2011, 10:34 PM
Watching Fox is, really, no worse than watching MSNBC. They cater to their respective wings of the political spectrum.

somethingrandom
April 29th, 2011, 10:36 PM
They wouldn't be allowed on the air if they weren't telling the truth.

Watching Fox is, really, no worse than watching MSNBC. They cater to their respective wings of the political spectrum.

This is actually a big debate here in Canada, since Fox News was banned from broadcasting here because you have to tell the truth if you claim to broadcast "news". Those laws, known as the Truth Doctrine, were lifted in the 1980s by Ronald Reagan. Since then, you can broadcast whatever you want and call it news. The actual news reporting on Fox News is pretty unbiased and fair, but the opinions are skewed WAY off to the right. And there's nothing wrong with that as long as they tell the truth, which they do except with Glenn Beck sometimes. Similarily, MSNBC has their opinions on the other side of the political spectrum, and they have every right to express their views as long as they tell the truth. Personally, I don't agree with some of what Fox News does, fundraising for the Republican Party unlike what MSNBC does, but they (unfortunately) have every right to do so

I personally don't agree much with the pope on this issue, but that's my own opinion. The government shouldn't ban gay marriage because they shouldn't regulate anything beyond a civil union. If they want to ban sodomy, I don't see a big issue with that as long as the same laws apply to homosexual AND heterosexual couples. I may not agree with those bans, but it's not my right to decide

Blake1994
April 30th, 2011, 12:01 AM
This is false.

No its not.

Death
April 30th, 2011, 02:42 AM
No. They aren't afraid to tell the truth and depict the news as it should be by presenting it in a fair and balanced nature. They wouldn't be allowed on the air if they weren't telling the truth.

Watching Fox is, really, no worse than watching MSNBC. They cater to their respective wings of the political spectrum.

Have neither of you watched my videos (particularlythe first)? How can a news station be reliable and claim that games rated 12 by the BBFC have "virtual orgasmic rape" which is "a press of a button away"?

No its not.

Then explain why, preferably without calling me a "Limey shit" among other uncalled for insults this time. And another thing, do you believe anything you are told by radical conservatives? Why else would you love George Bush?

embers
April 30th, 2011, 06:57 AM
Why else would you love George Bush?

Because he knows the human being and fish can coexist peacefully (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Jcrk6jGfo).

Rainstorm
April 30th, 2011, 09:57 AM
Have neither of you watched my videos (particularlythe first)? How can a news station be reliable and claim that games rated 12 by the BBFC have "virtual orgasmic rape" which is "a press of a button away"?



Then explain why, preferably without calling me a "Limey shit" among other uncalled for insults this time. And another thing, do you believe anything you are told by radical conservatives? Why else would you love George Bush?

As well as Sarah Palin, Gingritch, Baachman, etc.

If they get viewers from radical conservatives and liberals screaming unrealistic views, they'll do It. It's not right but they do it for the money.

Death
April 30th, 2011, 10:36 AM
Because he knows the human being and fish can coexist peacefully (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20Jcrk6jGfo).

Why the hell would we want that? Fish are nice... to eat.

Sith Lord 13
April 30th, 2011, 12:25 PM
No. They aren't afraid to tell the truth and depict the news as it should be by presenting it in a fair and balanced nature. They wouldn't be allowed on the air if they weren't telling the truth.

No, they're not, and this is coming from a registered Republican.

Watching Fox is, really, no worse than watching MSNBC. They cater to their respective wings of the political spectrum.

Exactly. Neither presents equal time, they ARE the equal time to each other.

This video from Fox News was based off a complete and ludicrous lie:

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They provided the claim which was being made, then had one of their panelists refute that claim.

Death
April 30th, 2011, 12:38 PM
They provided the claim which was being made, then had one of their panelists refute that claim.

Yes, one. The fact that everyone else bought what is obviously bullshit makes me question their general intelligence and/or intent.

somethingrandom
April 30th, 2011, 01:20 PM
Have neither of you watched my videos (particularlythe first)? How can a news station be reliable and claim that games rated 12 by the BBFC have "virtual orgasmic rape" which is "a press of a button away"?

It was rated M here, so you can't sell it to anybody under the age of 17. The BBFC has also certified Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas to be sold to 15-year-olds, even though they found a mini-game where you have sex. I'm not a big fan of the way they rate games, but the BBFC is ridiculous in how little they censor them.

Yes, one. The fact that everyone else bought what is obviously bullshit makes me question their general intelligence and/or intent.

Oh, boo fucking hoo. Fox News had a panel with two people and only one of them was arguing your side. Fox News has a conservative bias in their political opinions, everything else they say is relatively balanced. Their anchors also have a bias sometimes, but I didn't see much of one in that clip.

Death
April 30th, 2011, 01:53 PM
It was rated M here, so you can't sell it to anybody under the age of 17. The BBFC has also certified Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas to be sold to 15-year-olds, even though they found a mini-game where you have sex. I'm not a big fan of the way they rate games, but the BBFC is ridiculous in how little they censor them.

That holds true for some things, but not all. For instance, why the hell was Modern Warfare 2 and Far cry 2 rated 18s? They are far too tame compared to other 'real' 18s.

Oh, boo fucking hoo. Fox News had a panel with two people and only one of them was arguing your side. Fox News has a conservative bias in their political opinions, everything else they say is relatively balanced. Their anchors also have a bias sometimes, but I didn't see much of one in that clip.

You think only one person was arguing in the story's favour? Have you actually done much research into it?

slappy
April 30th, 2011, 03:10 PM
There ain't nothing wrong with Fox News. I'd rather get my news from them than anyone else.

Ha ha. Bill O the cloun doesnt know about the moon

The tides go in, the tides go out. You don't know how it happens.

Um, yea we do, its called the gravitational pull from the moon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BCipg71LbI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

deadpie
April 30th, 2011, 03:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BCipg71LbI&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Look how quickly it takes him to interrupt the man speaking.

Fox News is a conservative Christian organization pumping bullshit into the viewers.

Why do I hate Bill O'Reilly? He never lets people talk. Always cutting everyone off and bullshit. It's just fucking stupid. Actually, he's allot like the people I debate with her on VT. They won't listen to a damn thing and say they win the debate just because of the false nothing they say. This man likes to blame musicians, games, and other entertainment for the problems of this world. He never just says maybe it's us. I really think this guy is a fucking troll at best. Especially on his report on lesbians here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g8VNUkIemw)

Of course if you're a Christian conservative you're not going to see anything wrong with Fox News. It's ok though. There's already been a study that says that most people that watch Fox are uninformed. You can read it here. (http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/dec10/Misinformation_Dec10_rpt.pdf) So who's to blame? The channel or the people? Maybe a little of both.

Also, there's lots of leaks on memos proving that Fox purposely tries to push the right wing agenda and also talk about Obama being some fascist evil bastard.

Here's what one of the leaked messages says -

From: Sammon, Bill
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:23 AM
To: 054 -FNSunday; 169 -SPECIAL REPORT; 069 -Politics; 030 -Root (FoxNews.Com); 036 -FOX.WHU; 050 -Senior Producers; 051 -Producers
Subject: friendly reminder: let's not slip back into calling it the "public option"

1) Please use the term "government-run health insurance" or, when brevity is a concern, "government option," whenever possible.

2) When it is necessary to use the term "public option" (which is, after all, firmly ensconced in the nation's lexicon), use the qualifier "so-called," as in "the so-called public option."

3) Here's another way to phrase it: "The public option, which is the government-run plan."

4) When newsmakers and sources use the term "public option" in our stories, there's not a lot we can do about it, since quotes are of course sacrosanct.

Then the vice president of Fox replies this!

From: Clemente, Michael
To: Sammon, Bill; 054 -FNSunday; 169 -SPECIAL REPORT; 069 -Politics; 030 -Root (FoxNews.Com); 036 -FOX.WHU; 050 -Senior Producers; 051 -Producers
Sent: Tue Oct 27 08:45:29 2009
Subject: RE: friendly reminder: let's not slip back into calling it the "public option"

Thank you Bill

#3 on your list is the preferred way to say it, write it, use it.

Michael Clemente

SVP-News

212.XXX.XXXX

Also, here's this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HJTIhsQ16c).

slappy
April 30th, 2011, 03:47 PM
Look how quickly it takes him to interrupt the man speaking.

Fox News is a conservative Christian organization pumping bullshit into the viewers.

Why do I hate Bill O'Reilly? He never lets people talk. Always cutting everyone off and bullshit. It's just fucking stupid. Actually, he's allot like the people I debate with her on VT. They won't listen to a damn thing and say they win the debate just because of the false nothing they say. This man likes to blame musicians, games, and other entertainment for the problems of this world. He never just says maybe it's us. I really think this guy is a fucking troll at best. Especially on his report on lesbians here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g8VNUkIemw)

Of course if you're a Christian conservative you're not going to see anything wrong with Fox News. It's ok though. There's already been a study that says that most people that watch Fox are uninformed. You can read it here. (http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/dec10/Misinformation_Dec10_rpt.pdf) So who's to blame? The channel or the people? Maybe a little of both.

Also, there's lots of leaks on memos proving that Fox purposely tries to push the right wing agenda and also talk about Obama being some fascist evil bastard.

Here's what one of the leaked messages says -



Then the vice president of Fox replies this!


I couldn't have said it better myself buddy

somethingrandom
April 30th, 2011, 03:48 PM
That holds true for some things, but not all. For instance, why the hell was Modern Warfare 2 and Far cry 2 rated 18s? They are far too tame compared to other 'real' 18s.

Well, thats the problem with the BBFC, not only are they too liberal with some stuff, but they're extremely inconsistent. It would be like Fight Club getting whatever your 18A is because of that one second at the end, while giving a 14A (or whatever your equivalent is) to softcore porn.

You think only one person was arguing in the story's favour? Have you actually done much research into it?

I meant in the context of that two-person panel on Fox News

slappy
April 30th, 2011, 03:55 PM
Look how quickly it takes him to interrupt the man speaking.

Fox News is a conservative Christian organization pumping bullshit into the viewers.

Why do I hate Bill O'Reilly? He never lets people talk. Always cutting everyone off and bullshit. It's just fucking stupid. Actually, he's allot like the people I debate with her on VT. They won't listen to a damn thing and say they win the debate just because of the false nothing they say. This man likes to blame musicians, games, and other entertainment for the problems of this world. He never just says maybe it's us. I really think this guy is a fucking troll at best. Especially on his report on lesbians here. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-g8VNUkIemw)

Of course if you're a Christian conservative you're not going to see anything wrong with Fox News. It's ok though. There's already been a study that says that most people that watch Fox are uninformed. You can read it here. (http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/dec10/Misinformation_Dec10_rpt.pdf) So who's to blame? The channel or the people? Maybe a little of both.

Also, there's lots of leaks on memos proving that Fox purposely tries to push the right wing agenda and also talk about Obama being some fascist evil bastard.

Here's what one of the leaked messages says -



Then the vice president of Fox replies this!



Also, here's this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HJTIhsQ16c).



Also this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDdM1q6qOfU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Korashk
April 30th, 2011, 10:42 PM
No its not.
JDob2aemSvc
Editing a video to undermine the reputation of a politician they don't like. More. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ1alAbMrMM&feature=player_embedded) More. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCQ4gAAVW2k&feature=player_embedded) More. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlg9e0BkNOQ&feature=player_embedded) More. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55ZreK7CslA&feature=player_embedded) More. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/08/sean-hannity-caught-selec_n_228060.html)

Yeah, you can broadcast falsehoods and not be taken off the air.

slappy
April 30th, 2011, 11:48 PM
JDob2aemSvc
Editing a video to undermine the reputation of a politician they don't like. More. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZ1alAbMrMM&feature=player_embedded) More. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCQ4gAAVW2k&feature=player_embedded) More. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlg9e0BkNOQ&feature=player_embedded) More. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55ZreK7CslA&feature=player_embedded) More. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/08/sean-hannity-caught-selec_n_228060.html)

Yeah, you can broadcast falsehoods and not be taken off the air.



Hahahaha. I love him
Fox news is so stupid

Death
May 1st, 2011, 03:00 AM
Well, thats the problem with the BBFC, not only are they too liberal with some stuff, but they're extremely inconsistent.

Although this is true, the same goes for your ratings. You do realise that in the USA, Mass Effect which contains minimal violence (apart from the odd scene with stronger), a little infrequent language and one brief, undetailed sex scene is rated with the same rating that Fallout 3 is, which contains sexual references, strong language (you should have heard Dukov swearing in every sentence), and excessive violence and gore. That spells inconsistency to me.

I meant in the context of that two-person panel on Fox News

I watched more than the video though, I saw that there were more arguments form people outside it who were related to Fox News. I don't remmeber the site though since this was ages ago (and baring in mind bringing up this thread wasn't exactly my intention). but what I'm saying is that they have to have better things to argue about than games which obviously don't treat women as sex objects as doing so.

Oh, and since we're on the topic of Bill O'Rielly, who the hell actually likes that self-righteous tosser?

slappy
May 1st, 2011, 03:33 AM
Watching Fox is, really, no worse than watching MSNBC. They cater to their respective wings of the political spectrum.

As much as I hate to admit it, you're right
Buti love msnbc at least they don't flat out lie like faux.

Hatsune Miku
May 1st, 2011, 03:39 AM
Are you really asking if Faux News is biased? Really? It's not even debatable. They're all bullshit, just looking for ratings.

Death
May 1st, 2011, 03:39 AM
Are you really asking if Faux News is biased? Really?

Yes. Why else would Bill O'Reilly be too scared to let anyone speak because he knows he's about to get counter-argued (by people whose intelligence outstrips his several times over) into oblvion?

slappy
May 1st, 2011, 12:15 PM
Yes. Why else would Bill O'Reilly be too scared to let anyone speak because he knows he's about to get counter-argued (by people whose intelligence outstrips his several times over) into oblvion?

Because "god" told him to

Death
May 2nd, 2011, 06:40 AM
Because "god" told him to

I always though he was delusional (being a rude, self-righteous, fanatic, not just a follower). :P

nobodyimportant23
May 16th, 2011, 04:08 AM
For one, it depends on the show...and for two, if they were, it doesnt matter...most of the rest of the media hates conservatives...so why is it okay for them to spew their opinions and for those on Fox not to

Personally, my politics are in the center leaning to the right....but all I tell people is not to let Fox News, CNN, NBC or any of that other crap in your head...theyre all biased...if you do listen to them, get the other point of veiw and do some of your own researching

broseph92
May 16th, 2011, 06:18 AM
No, Fox seems to be the most balanced. The other ones are biased towards liberal views

Korashk
May 16th, 2011, 09:12 AM
No, Fox seems to be the most balanced. The other ones are biased towards liberal views
Did you miss the post where I gave you examples of deliberate lies they've broadcast?

Death
May 16th, 2011, 10:50 AM
No, Fox seems to be the most balanced. The other ones are biased towards liberal views

I see you're trapped in Fox News' web of deception. Didn't you see how Bill O'Reilly referred to lesbians as troublemakers? Didn't you see how they start moaning at everything they see in media which isn't kid friendly and start making shit up about it (i.e. a game rated 12 by the BBFC has pornographic content in it even though it's a bunch of fucking bullshit)? What about Steve Harvey spreading hatred towards irreligious people? Fox News is about as reliable as a toddler, with fascist parents, on red bull.

CaptainObvious
May 16th, 2011, 02:10 PM
commentary bias is different from news bias, guys. while fox is right of center in its news as well, it's mainly the commentators that are retarded.

JunkBondTrader
May 16th, 2011, 03:56 PM
Every news broadcaster is biased in one way or another. It's virtually impossible to create a completely neutral view of what's going on in the world.

I suppose the closest thing we have here would be the Daily Mail which frequently publishes pure lies, but I'm from a family of diehard Labour voters and you should also see some of the bullshit printed in the left wing papers.

It's all crap, the newspapers and broadcasters will inevitably cater to their audience. Take the BBC for example, an entity which is legally required to be totally neutral politically. The Conservatives accuse them of being a bunch of reds and Labour accuse them of being right wing nuts.

The only way to get a clear picture is to take in all the different views and make your own mind up.

nobodyimportant23
May 16th, 2011, 06:07 PM
I see you're trapped in Fox News' web of deception. Didn't you see how Bill O'Reilly referred to lesbians as troublemakers? Didn't you see how they start moaning at everything they see in media which isn't kid friendly and start making shit up about it (i.e. a game rated 12 by the BBFC has pornographic content in it even though it's a bunch of fucking bullshit)? What about Steve Harvey spreading hatred towards irreligious people? Fox News is about as reliable as a toddler, with fascist parents, on red bull.

Wait a sec, I just realized this..if you are from Britain, then why the hell do you care about American media

RoseyCadaver
May 16th, 2011, 06:13 PM
What re you talking about FOX?I thought their name was FAUX news lol?Yes i find them to be very biased,but then again who or what isn't?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blake1994
They wouldn't be allowed on the air if they weren't telling the truth.

There is this little thing I like to call a lie and televison :).

JunkBondTrader
May 16th, 2011, 06:20 PM
Wait a sec, I just realized this..if you are from Britain, then why the hell do you care about American media

Because your media is probably more relevant to us than ours is to you. Also, it's worth noting that Britain's second largest news channel, Sky News, as well as our country's most popular newspaper, The Sun are owned and operated by the same corporation and have similar political leanings.

Kaesaj
May 17th, 2011, 12:44 AM
They're no more biased than other news stations/sites, but they're biased in the other direction than most others, causing all the hate. I tend to agree with most of what they say.

Amnesiac
May 17th, 2011, 01:04 AM
They're no more biased than other news stations/sites, but they're biased in the other direction than most others, causing all the hate. I tend to agree with most of what they say.

I find it disappointing – actually, incredibly disturbing – that we have to agree with the news. The news isn't made for agreeing. It's supposed to be the cold, harsh truth.

Of course, thanks to our ridiculously politicized society, everybody has to watch the news station that they agree with, rather than watching one that's actually just and fair in its coverage (like BBC News).

Sugaree
May 17th, 2011, 01:19 AM
Of course, thanks to our ridiculously politicized society, everybody has to watch the news station that they agree with, rather than watching one that's actually just and fair in its coverage (like BBC News).

You can't really say that one network is more fair than another in its coverage. Each network, depending on who you ask, has some sort of bias it rides on. Obviously Fox News has a conservative bias, that's common knowledge. MSNBC is definitely clinging onto a liberal bias. CNN is a mixture of both, but often goes towards the liberal bias in most situations. I can't really say anything about networks like BBC or Aljazeera as I haven't really been accustomed to them or other news outlets. There will never really be a news outlet that is truly just and fair in its coverage. The powers that be will always have the final say in what is said, how it's said, and which side to take.

Death
May 17th, 2011, 01:13 PM
Wait a sec, I just realized this..if you are from Britain, then why the hell do you care about American media

Didn't you read my origional post? I said that creating this thread wasn't entirely my choice, but I'm fine with it. And who are you to question what I care about? Thankyou very much.

eatightboy
May 17th, 2011, 02:22 PM
No, Fox seems to be the most balanced. The other ones are biased towards liberal views

wow. thats the funniest thing i've heard all day. thank you!

but seriously, the others are liberally biased, but fox is way more conservative than msnbc is liberal. and fox has O'Rieley (sorry if spelling is wrong), hannity, beck, etc. so fox is not fair and balanced. its the most hillarious slogan ever.

Amnesiac
May 17th, 2011, 03:51 PM
You can't really say that one network is more fair than another in its coverage. Each network, depending on who you ask, has some sort of bias it rides on. Obviously Fox News has a conservative bias, that's common knowledge. MSNBC is definitely clinging onto a liberal bias. CNN is a mixture of both, but often goes towards the liberal bias in most situations. I can't really say anything about networks like BBC or Aljazeera as I haven't really been accustomed to them or other news outlets. There will never really be a news outlet that is truly just and fair in its coverage. The powers that be will always have the final say in what is said, how it's said, and which side to take.

That is very true, it's not possible to be completely neutral – ever – but, still, news shouldn't be something we agree with. The news is supposed to present, more or less, facts. A little bias won't completely cloud the true story. However, when we get to the point where people watch news channels because they agree with them, rather than watching them for the information they provide – that's not right.

The only way to get 'balanced' news would be to watch competing networks and compare them. Of course, the flame-warring mudslingers that overdo it and label every company 'fascist' or 'communist' refuse to do so.

CaptainObvious
May 17th, 2011, 04:19 PM
but seriously, the others are liberally biased, but fox is way more conservative than msnbc is liberal. and fox has O'Rieley (sorry if spelling is wrong), hannity, beck, etc. so fox is not fair and balanced. its the most hillarious slogan ever.

the bolded is not true. msnbc is definitely as biased leftwards as fox is rightwards. i happen to agree with msnbc more, but one cannot argue the relatively equal bias.

and, for the 99999999th time, there is a difference between news bias and commentary bias. hannity, beck, O'Reilly, etc., are commentators, not news, and you can't point to them as news bias.

Korashk
May 17th, 2011, 04:48 PM
the bolded is not true. msnbc is definitely as biased leftwards as fox is rightwards. i happen to agree with msnbc more, but one cannot argue the relatively equal bias.

and, for the 99999999th time, there is a difference between news bias and commentary bias. hannity, beck, O'Reilly, etc., are commentators, not news, and you can't point to them as news bias.
This is technically true. However, most people who get their news, don't get it from the actual news programs. They get it from The Daily show, The Colbert Report, The O'Reilly Factor, Sean Hannity, etc.

The actual news portions of broadcasting may be about equally biased, but the portions that people get the news from is much, much more biased. You could have a completely neutral reporting of events, but that doesn't matter if nobody watches it.

slappy
May 17th, 2011, 06:05 PM
Wait a sec, I just realized this..if you are from Britain, then why the hell do you care about American media

The man who owns fox news is from australia, why dose he care about American politics?

Iceman
May 17th, 2011, 06:09 PM
The man who owns fox news is from australia, why dose he care about American politics?

Because he LIVES in America. He is FROM Australia.

slappy
May 17th, 2011, 06:11 PM
Because he LIVES in America. He is FROM Australia.

Why would it matter to him what politics in America is like. He is just trying to make money.

Iceman
May 17th, 2011, 06:12 PM
Why would it matter to him what politics in America is like. He is just trying to make money.

Because he lives here. Whatever the government does here will affect him.

slappy
May 17th, 2011, 06:13 PM
Because he lives here. Whatever the government does here will affect him.

Than you have to think about why he came here in the first place

Iceman
May 17th, 2011, 06:15 PM
Than you have to think about why he came here in the first place

Only he knows that. You can't say he is just here to make money. Everyone in this country would like to make money, because it is what ensures your survival.

But since we are getting off topic, if you wish to continue this feel free to PM me.

slappy
May 17th, 2011, 06:19 PM
Only he knows that. You can't say he is just here to make money. Everyone in this country would like to make money, because it is what ensures your survival.

But since we are getting off topic, if you wish to continue this feel free to PM me.

I'm not off topic. Fox news is owned by news Corp and news Corp is owned by rupert murdoch who is the person we are talking about.

Anyway, back to the point of england and fox news. News corp, the company that owns fox is from England so there is a connection to fox news and england.
So death has every right to talk about fox news.

JunkBondTrader
May 17th, 2011, 08:38 PM
I'm not off topic. Fox news is owned by news Corp and news Corp is owned by rupert murdoch who is the person we are talking about.

Anyway, back to the point of england and fox news. News corp, the company that owns fox is from England so there is a connection to fox news and england.
So death has every right to talk about fox news.

Actually, they were founded in Australia and headquartered in New York so they're pretty international. But yes, look around and you'll find they own and operate at least one major news outlet in just about every western nation.

Limelight788
May 21st, 2011, 10:39 AM
Every news source is bias. FOX favors Republicans, CNN favors Democrats, etc. I've heard of only one that is remotely unbias and that is BBC USA, and even then, I haven't watched news from there, so I don't believe it until I get off my butt and see it.

Death
May 22nd, 2011, 04:42 AM
Every news source is bias. FOX favors Republicans, CNN favors Democrats, etc. I've heard of only one that is remotely unbias and that is BBC USA, and even then, I haven't watched news from there, so I don't believe it until I get off my butt and see it.

But not every news station has Bill O'Reilly (a.k.a. a homophobic, anti-atheistic, interupting prick).

Sugaree
May 23rd, 2011, 01:32 AM
But not every news station has Bill O'Reilly (a.k.a. a homophobic, anti-atheistic, interupting prick).

You misspelled debating.

Death
May 23rd, 2011, 10:44 AM
You misspelled debating.

I don't remember creating this thread.

TuRdz
May 26th, 2011, 07:18 AM
ALL news and information is biased.

Death
May 26th, 2011, 10:51 AM
ALL news and information is biased.

Even if every news station is biased, that does not mean that one news station cannot be more biased than the other. And if you've watched some of the crap on Fox News, you'd understand why this thread exists. As such, any more serious contributions?

Crocbait230
May 27th, 2011, 12:50 PM
Sometimes it really does seem pretty one sided...