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*Dissident*
January 14th, 2007, 09:03 PM
Do you think it should be legal to sell drug paraphenalia? I mean, its not like plastic and glass is illegal. But it does "promote" drug use, apparently, shich sounds stupid to me, because to buy that stuff, you probably are already doing drugs, because no one would buy that stuff without having ever done any. I personally believe in legalizing all substances...but thats for a diferent thread.
serial-thrilla
January 14th, 2007, 11:44 PM
well its legal where i live. there are a few stores that sell marijuana paraphenalia. i dont think its right to sell paraphenalia for harder drugs though.(needles, crackpipes etc)
0=
January 15th, 2007, 02:21 AM
You can make a bong with a plastic soda bottle. I prefer brownies though :D
I don't support the selling of needles and such, although I do support the legalization of marijuana. I also support needle exchange because it can help reduce the spread of HIV/AIDS.
*Dissident*
January 15th, 2007, 11:43 AM
right on. Marijuana should be legal. anyway...making your own pipes and stuff is ok when you want to be covert or dont have any money or something, i once made a pipe out of a coke can and a thumbtack. but you get a better feeling and better health from buying a real, plastic or glass bong or pipe. anyway, the united states spends about $20 billion annualy on enforcing marijuana, when it could be selling hemp + pot for over $30-40 Billion. Canada has an UNDERGROUND trade of pot for $15 billion. imagine if it were legalized full scale in the US? not only would we stop spending $20 Billion a year on stoping pot, but making an extra $50 billion embracing it. and also, there would be a lot more cool headed people, less wars, less poverty, less social unjustice...
Maverick
January 15th, 2007, 12:10 PM
there would be a lot more cool headed people, less wars, less poverty, less social unjustice...Where's your evidence to support this?
Drug Paraphernalia should stay illegal because the point of them is for illegal drugs. Just because they are already doing it doesn't mean you should be excused from having it. You put the two pieces of the puzzle together. It doesn't make sense to have something that's meant for illegal drugs legal if they aren't allowed to have illegal drugs in the first place. It doesn't make sense and it's illogical. If you want drugs legalized that's a different story but as long as drugs are legal then drug paraphernalia should remain illegal. It's like saying CDs are banned but we'll allow CD players. They are linked together. The whole point of this is to make things easier for druggies to get what they want. If the government wants drugs illegal then it should't allow things to make things easier and promote the opposite of what it stands for.
Sapphire
January 15th, 2007, 02:29 PM
As far as drug paraphenalia is concerned I'm quite laid back about it all. It is ultimately healthier to use a shop bought bong than make one yourself. When it comes to needles etc for harder drugs it becomes a grey area I suppose. On the one hand, if they sold them in certain shops then kits or guides on how to keep it clean could be contained in the packaging. This way it reduces the chance of infections.
But, on the other hand, it does promote the use of these hard drugs.
I also support needle exchange because it can help reduce the spread of HIV/AIDS.
How did you reach that conclusion???
0=
January 15th, 2007, 02:39 PM
People who inject drugs can exchange their needles for clean ones so they don't have to share dirty needles.
About the government making a profit off of marijuana, that's bullshit, I could grow it in my closet if I wanted, what would prevent me from growing it in my garden if it were legalized?
Sapphire
January 15th, 2007, 02:52 PM
People who inject drugs can exchange their needles for clean ones so they don't have to share dirty needles.
Ah ok. My mistake. Sorry.
Maverick
January 15th, 2007, 03:47 PM
The government shouldn't allow rewarding people with clean needles so they can continue to break the law.
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January 15th, 2007, 07:15 PM
So you would rather the pandemic continue to worsen than to give a few people who have an addiction to an illegal substance some clean needles?
Maverick
January 15th, 2007, 07:27 PM
No, we should help them get off the addiction.
*Dissident*
January 15th, 2007, 11:10 PM
what do you mean by the government not making money? i mean...the country. the country makes money off tobacco, why not pot? i mean, SURE you can grow your own pot. but its takes germanation, supplies, correct breeding and fertilization...or you could save your self the trouble and buy an ounce from a headshop that has FDA approved pot that is good enough to be sold in a store from the "pot company" who ensures its quality and health.
*Dissident*
January 15th, 2007, 11:12 PM
i also see your logic, Anthony. I know its kind of illogical. but, if someone wants a bong, they are going to get a bong. they will buy one from a shady dealer, make one out of household materials that could poisen them, or, they could just buy one from a store. and what about people who have legal marijuana for medical purposes? they have to risk lung irratation and throat tar from smoking a joint, when they could have a clean bong or vaporizer?
0=
January 16th, 2007, 01:23 AM
Either way smoking is harmful. The only harmless way to get high is to eat it.
About the needles, we currently can not afford to treat all people who are addicted to injected drugs, and many of them do not want to be treated.
Maverick
January 16th, 2007, 05:52 PM
make one out of household materials that could poisen them
Shit happens. If they poison themselves that's their problem.
About the needles, we currently can not afford to treat all people who are addicted to injected drugs, and many of them do not want to be treated.
Well if they can afford their drugs I'm sure they can use that money to go into their treatment. If they don't want to get treated that's their problem and choice.
0=
January 16th, 2007, 07:14 PM
Yes, but the spread of HIV/AIDS is our problem too.
fdsgfg55465
January 16th, 2007, 08:41 PM
i think that a bong, and bowls and hookahs should be legal but crack pipes, needles, no because i don't think they should be legal but i think marijuana should be legal
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