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CantLiveWithoutYou
April 26th, 2011, 04:06 PM
Before you read this thread... read this: Don't argue, it's gonna get the thread locked, and I'm sure if the moderators/administrators notices you're doing it just to get the thread locked you'll be in a bit of trouble. Just disregard the thread if you don't like what I have to say, no need to feign intelligence and argue things that don't make any sense.


Since it seems like a new thread is posted about it every other day talking about how bad it is and crapping this section up I thought this might help slow those idiots down for a few months at least. I'll provide support from well-known publications, or if I can find it, research documents directly from universities, laboratories, whatever.

Weed(Cannabis) is NOT nearly as bad as a cigarette for you.
THC, which is the most abundant cannabinoid* in Cannabis, is not a carcinogen like nicotine is. It has been shown to actually possibly have anti-cancerous effects.
Source: http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/04/090401181217.htm
http://www.naturalnews.com/026697_Marijuana_cancer_health.html
http://open.salon.com/blog/brinna_nanda/2009/08/09/weve_known_since_1974_that_cannabis_halts_cancer_and
not enough?
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/20008/
http://safeaccess.ca/research/cancer.htm

And yes, while it is smoking, there hasn't ONCE been a case of lung cancer that was linked solely to Cannabis use. It has tar in the smoke, just like if you were to burn any other medicine, that's why you can put it in food. It can be cooked into an oil, which can then be made into a cake, a cookie, or simply a pill. The pill form is a great option for many patients because it doesn't require you to have an appetite, which is a problem often for many cancer/AIDS patients that medical Cannabis is prescribed for. They have nausea and often become severely underweight, sometimes they die if they don't eat for a very long period of time. THC stimulates appetite and can make even the person going through the toughest cancer, AIDS, or any other treatment eat.
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/patients-use.htm
http://fyiliving.com/research/thc-increases-cancer-patients-appetite/

It does not lower IQ.
In fact, it has risen one man's test scores http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_High_Me the chart on that page is accurate, if you don't believe me, watch the movie. This also covers the lower sperm count, his went up 50%.

It is NOT addictive.
I can't believe how many people on here think it is. Well, you can be 'addicted' to WATER and some people will call it an addiction, but Cannabis is not able to form a physical dependency in the person. If you're "addicted" to it, you're addicted to how you feel on it, not Cannabis or anything in it itself. Some people call it a mental addiction versus physical addiction you'd get with say, heroin.
I don't need to post a source with this. The DEA site used to even say it's non-habit-forming. I'm not sure anymore though I haven't looked it years.

It doesn't cause brain damage.
This was covered in It does not lower IQ..

No one has EVER died from it.
You'd need to smoke some 4000 pounds of Cannabis to get enough THC to kill you. And you'd have to do it all within 15 minutes.

It is not a gateway drug.
What is a gateway drug? Well the most common use of the term refers to tolerance** of a certain substance building up, and then you need to move on to something more powerful than that drug. With Cannabis this is rarely a worry, as many users have reported no tolerance gain with use. Some have, in fact, reported reverse tolerance***.

It does not impair judgment or reaction time.
It can slightly, but I know people that always get tickets when they're sober and they don't when they're high because it improves concentration.
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7459

Legalizing it won't make kids use it more, if you restrict it.
It's not half as common for a kid to smoke tobacco as it is weed. Why? Because tobacco is legal and FDA restricted to anyone 18 or older ONLY. In Portugal, they have legalized nearly every drug from Cannabis to heroin and drug use is down by far.

If you have any other major questions I forgot to cover, I'll add it. Otherwise this is NOT open to debate, I have given you many sources to support my FACTS. This is not an argument thread, it's to inform people.

I'm probably going to take the most shit for the addiction one so let me say this; like I said, it can be "mentally addictive" which means you're addicted to being HIGH on it, you're not physically addicted to the actual marijuana.

*cannabinoids are any chemical in a class of chemicals that activate cannabinoid receptors
**tolerance is sort of like an immunity to a drug, in some other drugs tolerance is built quickly which means it's a gateway drug because people need something stronger then
***reverse tolerance is when you need less of a drug to get the same level of effect than you did originally

Bougainvillea
April 26th, 2011, 04:10 PM
Hey look, another person talking about how great weed is when no one even CARES!

CantLiveWithoutYou
April 26th, 2011, 04:17 PM
Hey look, another person talking about how great weed is when no one even CARES!

You sir, fail at trolling. I don't like weed at all. I used it once, hated it. I'll never use it again, probably. I just wanted to shut people the hell up for a few days on here.

Bougainvillea
April 26th, 2011, 04:23 PM
I'm not trying to troll.

No one is really going to pay much attention to the facts. I've seen plenty o' threads like this. There will always be mouth-breathers who glorify weed, and mouth-breathers who don't. And both groups don't understand the facts you've just presented.

Potheads will defend themselves to no end.

ShatteredWings
April 26th, 2011, 04:58 PM
Fighting stops now, and a reminder promoting (or DEmoting, for that matter) drug usage isn't permitted.

CantLiveWithoutYou
April 26th, 2011, 05:17 PM
Fighting stops now, and a reminder promoting (or DEmoting, for that matter) drug usage isn't permitted.

I assume by the fact that you didn't lock/delete this you realize I'm not promoting or demoting? I just want to make it clear to people that it's not bad for you. I don't really want anyone to use it.

Bougainvillea
April 26th, 2011, 05:42 PM
I'm not fighting.

Church
April 26th, 2011, 07:10 PM
Love how facts are always out there yet people ignore em. Or like OP, get accused of 'loving weed' which is basically calling him a stoner.

ShatteredWings
April 26th, 2011, 07:23 PM
OP; yes I'm aware, hence it being a warning
Laurence, yes you are.
long john, that's not what I did here.

Bougainvillea
April 26th, 2011, 08:28 PM
No, I'm not.

Fighting would be me getting all pissed off and bitching about that shit. I'm just saying what I feel, and believe. If you read it with an attitude, then you're reading it wrong. There is a difference between fighting, and what I was doing.

CantLiveWithoutYou
April 26th, 2011, 08:40 PM
Both of you calm down. Whenever people start arguing it gets my threads closed. So let's just forget everything that's happened so far, alright?

Bougainvillea
April 26th, 2011, 08:45 PM
I'm calm, bro.

CantLiveWithoutYou
April 26th, 2011, 09:06 PM
OK then just forget it and don't post anymore in here unless you have something unrelated to the previous.

Zazanama
April 26th, 2011, 09:16 PM
Wow i didnt know that... Maybe ill make an NPO on that when im older :)

Zazu
April 27th, 2011, 04:37 AM
Guize, come on, take a toke on the joi....

No, better not.

Nice thread OP.

CantLiveWithoutYou
April 27th, 2011, 03:04 PM
Thanks everyone. I work to inform people, not force opinions on them.

bleedoutlove
April 28th, 2011, 10:37 AM
You are one of the most sensible non-smokers out there - even though you say you tried it and didn't like it, you still promote the facts about it and its medicinal properties.
:)

Paladino
April 28th, 2011, 04:53 PM
You are a legend my friend :)

embers
April 28th, 2011, 05:03 PM
And yet ever since my friend got into weed, he began a massive decline in his grades and simply stopped giving a shit about his education.

But, good on you, OP, it's good to get some facts.

Edit: And don't you just love how people say weed doesn't damage the lungs because cigarettes are worse.

Peace God
May 20th, 2011, 08:45 PM
Edit: And don't you just love how people say weed doesn't damage the lungs because cigarettes are worse.
I've never heard anyone say that in my entire life.

bleedoutlove
May 22nd, 2011, 09:42 AM
I've never heard anyone say that in my entire life.

Same -__-

The Joker
May 22nd, 2011, 10:16 PM
Some of your arguments are ridiculously flawed, dude. I actually support weed, but wow, your points don't support each other at all.

Since it seems like a new thread is posted about it every other day talking about how bad it is and crapping this section up I thought this might help slow those idiots down for a few months at least. I'll provide support from well-known publications, or if I can find it, research documents directly from universities, laboratories, whatever.

It seems to be more or less two status quos fighting back and forth. The same talking points are used every single time, on both sides, and the argument tends to go nowhere. Your post isn't containing anything new that hasn't been stated within the past few weeks in this board, so I don't get why you think you're some savior of the pro-marijuana group.


Weed(Cannabis) is NOT nearly as bad as a cigarette for you.
THC, which is the most abundant cannabinoid* in Cannabis, is not a carcinogen like nicotine is. It has been shown to actually possibly have anti-cancerous effects.

And yes, while it is smoking, there hasn't ONCE been a case of lung cancer that was linked solely to Cannabis use. It has tar in the smoke, just like if you were to burn any other medicine, that's why you can put it in food. It can be cooked into an oil, which can then be made into a cake, a cookie, or simply a pill. The pill form is a great option for many patients because it doesn't require you to have an appetite, which is a problem often for many cancer/AIDS patients that medical Cannabis is prescribed for.


You're acting as if the forms of marijuana intake other than smoking are commonplace. Smoking it is probably the most common form, and you have to admit it's not good to smoke most things...I totally agree with you that there are safer forms, but as I said before...you're not presenting any new arguments.


It does not lower IQ.
In fact, it has risen one man's test scores http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_High_Me the chart on that page is accurate, if you don't believe me, watch the movie. This also covers the lower sperm count, his went up 50%.

Poor proof. Yes, I have seen that movie, and yes, what you're saying is accurate. But, it's not an absolute, confirmed fact. This test was done on one man. ONE. That is not nearly close enough to the required sample of information to actually prove anything. He could be an anomaly. From personal experience, my high does tend to increase my intelligence, but I have friends who are absolutely unable to do any work after they smoke. Really, one guy's experience does not prove anything.

If you're "addicted" to it, you're addicted to how you feel on it, not Cannabis or anything in it itself. Some people call it a mental addiction versus physical addiction you'd get with say, heroin.
I don't need to post a source with this. The DEA site used to even say it's non-habit-forming. I'm not sure anymore though I haven't looked it years.

Addicted is addicted is addicted. While one form of addiction is much tougher to beat than another, they are still addictions. Yes, people can be addicted to anything, and I do believe that it's rare to be addicted to pot, but you can't act as if a mental addiction is preferable. Also, it's pretty bad to present your argument as a fact, and then say you don't need to provide a source.

It doesn't cause brain damage.
This was covered in It does not lower IQ..

If you have no substance to this point, then why did you even mention it? Once again, that one study proves nothing. A slightly lowered IQ doesn't necessarily imply or correlate with brain damage.

It is not a gateway drug.
What is a gateway drug? Well the most common use of the term refers to tolerance** of a certain substance building up, and then you need to move on to something more powerful than that drug. With Cannabis this is rarely a worry, as many users have reported no tolerance gain with use. Some have, in fact, reported reverse tolerance***.

I'd like to see a source for these statements...more specifically, the "no tolerance gain" statement.

It does not impair judgment or reaction time.
It can slightly, but I know people that always get tickets when they're sober and they don't when they're high because it improves concentration.
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7459

HAHAHAHA. Very funny. The 'high' from marijuana is an impairment in your judgement. Not that it's a bad thing, but that's the basis of why people smoke pot. An impairment from what they normally feel.
Also: http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_driving7.shtml
It's still a poor idea to drive high.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_driving.shtml

TheSleepingInsomniac
May 23rd, 2011, 03:08 AM
It is not a gateway drug.
What is a gateway drug? Well the most common use of the term refers to tolerance** of a certain substance building up, and then you need to move on to something more powerful than that drug. With Cannabis this is rarely a worry, as many users have reported no tolerance gain with use. Some have, in fact, reported reverse tolerance***.Weed is called the gateway drug because of the fact that no matter where you got it from it came from a dealer. If you got if from your older sister she got it off a dealer, or the friend she got it off knew a dealer. Dealers often don't just sell weed but other stronger drugs like P, heroin, meth ect ect.
This is why weed is the gateway drug not because of a tolerance build up.

CantLiveWithoutYou
May 23rd, 2011, 06:03 AM
The Joker, you aren't getting a response for being a troll. However...
Weed is called the gateway drug because of the fact that no matter where you got it from it came from a dealer. If you got if from your older sister she got it off a dealer, or the friend she got it off knew a dealer. Dealers often don't just sell weed but other stronger drugs like P, heroin, meth ect ect.
This is why weed is the gateway drug not because of a tolerance build up.

lol, no. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+a+gateway+drug

In December 2006, a 12 year gateway drug hypothesis study on 214 boys from ages 10–12 by the American Psychiatric Association was published in the American Journal of Psychiatry. The study concluded adolescents who used cannabis prior to using other drugs, including alcohol and tobacco, were no more likely to develop a substance abuse disorder than subjects in the study who did not use cannabis prior to using other drugs.[20] In other words, rearranging the order of the alleged "steppingstones" did not change the outcomes.

Peace God
May 23rd, 2011, 07:41 AM
The Joker, you aren't getting a response for being a troll.
He's not trolling you and he deserves a response...unless you can't defend your own statements.

Spook
May 23rd, 2011, 10:34 AM
Do you honestly think, all facts and ramblings aside, that WEED is good? Okay, not as harmful as a cig, back to facts. Damn, a cigarette causes PERMANENT LUNG DAMAGE. And comparing it to a death booster (cigarette) you think you are making a point? Maybe, but not a good one.

Quote: "I don't need to post a source with this."

Because you don't have one. :P

Source: Is Marijuana Addictive?

Is marijuana addictive
It's a fair question: Is marijuana addictive? The answer is complicated, unfortunately. Yes and no. From a strictly physical standpoint, marijuana is really only addictive in extreme cases of heavy, prolonged use. Even then, the physical withdrawal symptoms are likely caused more due to psychological factors than by a real, physical withdrawal.

So for the most part, there really is no physical withdrawal; no detox symptoms for quitting marijuana. With other drugs, such as alcohol or painkillers, there are very real and sometimes even dangerous withdrawal symptoms that can occur during the detox process. But with marijuana, there really are no such problems. So this would tend to point to the idea that marijuana is not addictive.

On the other hand, we can make a strong case for the fact that marijuana is addictive, because a huge number of people are in a pattern where they use moderate to large amounts of the stuff every day. They might not be physically hooked on the drug but they are using it as a crutch, as a coping mechanism for their life. If they have a bad day, they have to smoke marijuana in order to medicate themselves. If they have a good day, they want to smoke in order to celebrate this fact. If they are sick with a cold or the flu, they need to smoke in order to feel better and be able to function.

People who are psychologically addicted to marijuana tend to let it define all of their activities. Instead of going to see a movie, they need to get high and go to the movie. Instead of going dancing at a club, they need to get high and then go dancing. And so on. Marijuana use tends to define all of their activities. The reason that marijuana is addictive is because people use it to medicate their feelings. This means that they will turn to their drug in order to avoid having to feel uncomfortable. This essentially stunts emotional growth because the person is not learning how to deal with life, deal with new situations, and learning to process their feelings in a healthy way. Instead, they simply medicate with marijuana every time they face a new issue in their life. I hope this helps to answer the big question today is marijuana addictive.

Marijuana is not an innocent substance. When taken, it instantly transforms a person's mood, in a similar way that alcohol can completely transport a person into a new dimension. In other words, you can be feeling happy, sad, discouraged, upset, angry, or any number of different emotions, but this can all be completely erased by smoking marijuana. The drug can get you so high, so quickly, that any emotional issues you might have been dealing with have been temporarily forgotten.

And so the addict learns how to medicate their feelings and finds this new way to deal with their life. They can simply get high and feel how they want to feel, when they want it. Anyone who falls into a pattern of using marijuana in this way is arguably addicted to it. Even though they could technically stop at any time, and doing so would not be physically dangerous (as it is with some other substances), they are still hooked on using marijuana as a crutch every day. They have become dependent on the drug in order to deal with their life.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Is-Marijuana-Addictive

See, I pretty much have read over and supported your point as well as my own. Marijuana (crack) is a yes and no for the "addictive" question.

But...on the other hand...it can be considered that.

Whatever way you put it, it doesn't matter if it is addictive. Many people use it, over and over, and get damage from it. Both physical and mental. It screws up lives.

And the title of this thread cannot be relevant as you didn't have ALL your facts. :D Recheck those, hun.


And...may I have the honor of saying this....case closed. :judge:

The Joker
May 23rd, 2011, 12:56 PM
The Joker, you aren't getting a response for being a troll. However...

Because I thought you had a poor argument and I picked it apart, I'm a troll? :rolleyes:

staying_alive
May 23rd, 2011, 03:09 PM
Weed is called the gateway drug because of the fact that no matter where you got it from it came from a dealer. If you got if from your older sister she got it off a dealer, or the friend she got it off knew a dealer. Dealers often don't just sell weed but other stronger drugs like P, heroin, meth ect ect.
This is why weed is the gateway drug not because of a tolerance build up.

Wrong. Weed is called the gateway drug because people, such as yourself, don't know what the fuck they're talking about. I can buy weed from someone who gets it at a dispensary. This person doesn't sell cocaine, heroin, or anything remotely as destructive. Please don't be ignorant, "dealers" are not what they used to be - i.e. big time sellers of many drugs. People buying weed can get it from people with green cards or other people who sell ONLY weed.

Your argument relies on the fact that people think drug dealers are salesmen, which is not unfair to say. They want to make money. However, upselling to more powerful drugs is not the norm; no one jumps from weed to meth, something the term "gateway drug" is normally used to describe.

Because I thought you had a poor argument and I picked it apart, I'm a troll? :rolleyes:

Well duh! Of course you are. No one has to provide a source with their argument, no one needs experience with what they're talking about. Everyone can make unbacked claims and they should stand because...well, they just should. Opinion is just as good as fact on these forums.

/sarcasm

CantLiveWithoutYou
May 23rd, 2011, 03:17 PM
Do you honestly think, all facts and ramblings aside, that WEED is good? Okay, not as harmful as a cig, back to facts. Damn, a cigarette causes PERMANENT LUNG DAMAGE. And comparing it to a death booster (cigarette) you think you are making a point? Maybe, but not a good one.

Quote: "I don't need to post a source with this."

Because you don't have one. :P

Source: Is Marijuana Addictive?

Is marijuana addictive
It's a fair question: Is marijuana addictive? The answer is complicated, unfortunately. Yes and no. From a strictly physical standpoint, marijuana is really only addictive in extreme cases of heavy, prolonged use. Even then, the physical withdrawal symptoms are likely caused more due to psychological factors than by a real, physical withdrawal.

So for the most part, there really is no physical withdrawal; no detox symptoms for quitting marijuana. With other drugs, such as alcohol or painkillers, there are very real and sometimes even dangerous withdrawal symptoms that can occur during the detox process. But with marijuana, there really are no such problems. So this would tend to point to the idea that marijuana is not addictive.

On the other hand, we can make a strong case for the fact that marijuana is addictive, because a huge number of people are in a pattern where they use moderate to large amounts of the stuff every day. They might not be physically hooked on the drug but they are using it as a crutch, as a coping mechanism for their life. If they have a bad day, they have to smoke marijuana in order to medicate themselves. If they have a good day, they want to smoke in order to celebrate this fact. If they are sick with a cold or the flu, they need to smoke in order to feel better and be able to function.

People who are psychologically addicted to marijuana tend to let it define all of their activities. Instead of going to see a movie, they need to get high and go to the movie. Instead of going dancing at a club, they need to get high and then go dancing. And so on. Marijuana use tends to define all of their activities. The reason that marijuana is addictive is because people use it to medicate their feelings. This means that they will turn to their drug in order to avoid having to feel uncomfortable. This essentially stunts emotional growth because the person is not learning how to deal with life, deal with new situations, and learning to process their feelings in a healthy way. Instead, they simply medicate with marijuana every time they face a new issue in their life. I hope this helps to answer the big question today is marijuana addictive.

Marijuana is not an innocent substance. When taken, it instantly transforms a person's mood, in a similar way that alcohol can completely transport a person into a new dimension. In other words, you can be feeling happy, sad, discouraged, upset, angry, or any number of different emotions, but this can all be completely erased by smoking marijuana. The drug can get you so high, so quickly, that any emotional issues you might have been dealing with have been temporarily forgotten.

And so the addict learns how to medicate their feelings and finds this new way to deal with their life. They can simply get high and feel how they want to feel, when they want it. Anyone who falls into a pattern of using marijuana in this way is arguably addicted to it. Even though they could technically stop at any time, and doing so would not be physically dangerous (as it is with some other substances), they are still hooked on using marijuana as a crutch every day. They have become dependent on the drug in order to deal with their life.

http://hubpages.com/hub/Is-Marijuana-Addictive

See, I pretty much have read over and supported your point as well as my own. Marijuana (crack) is a yes and no for the "addictive" question.

But...on the other hand...it can be considered that.

Whatever way you put it, it doesn't matter if it is addictive. Many people use it, over and over, and get damage from it. Both physical and mental. It screws up lives.

And the title of this thread cannot be relevant as you didn't have ALL your facts. :D Recheck those, hun.


And...may I have the honor of saying this....case closed. :judge:

By all means, be arrogant and post things that can happen with any substance and say one substance is bad because of it. There are people addicted to ibuprofen. They need to take ibuprofen and go to a movie. /argument

Apollo.
May 23rd, 2011, 06:30 PM
Forget everything else, Inhaling smoke of any kind is not going to be healthy, I have tried weed and didn't really like it, I have friends that couldn't go with out it though I'm pretty neutral on the subject to be honest

RoseyCadaver
May 24th, 2011, 03:21 PM
And yet ever since my friend got into weed, he began a massive decline in his grades and simply stopped giving a shit about his education.

.

Same thing with my cousin.He was offered a full ride to LSU,and he had a GPA of 3.8,sadly he got into pot and went down hill.

I think though,it's people's body and let them do what they want with it.I don't agree that people should be smoking pot,but if they want to then they should be able too.America is supposed to be free.

staying_alive
May 24th, 2011, 04:04 PM
Forget everything else, Inhaling smoke of any kind is not going to be healthy, I have tried weed and didn't really like it, I have friends that couldn't go with out it though I'm pretty neutral on the subject to be honest

This is the attitude more people should have on these forums. If you don't care for it that's your call, but spreading an anti-drug message without having tried it first is just ignorance. Informed neutrality is always the best option :yeah:

Same thing with my cousin.He was offered a full ride to LSU,and he had a GPA of 3.8,sadly he got into pot and went down hill.

I think though,it's people's body and let them do what they want with it.I don't agree that people should be smoking pot,but if they want to then they should be able too.America is supposed to be free.

I think your cousin is a special circumstance to be honest, and you probably realize that. It's a sad thing that he threw so much away, but it's important to remember that the drug WASNT controlling his actions. You could say with heroin, for example, that it caused someone's life to fall apart because of the physical addiction. But your cousin wanted that high, his body didn't need it - and there are obvious consequences for that.

Love the free-choice stance btw :yes:

Church
May 24th, 2011, 09:05 PM
Funny thing how people say Pot makes you do worse in school when I smoke it alot yet I went up a letter grade in like all my classes before end of school (which was today :D) and I smoke like every weekend and occasionally on weekdays

Sage
May 25th, 2011, 01:13 AM
Weed is called the gateway drug because of the fact that no matter where you got it from it came from a dealer. If you got if from your older sister she got it off a dealer, or the friend she got it off knew a dealer. Dealers often don't just sell weed but other stronger drugs like P, heroin, meth ect ect.

You and I have clearly not had the pleasure of associating with the same dealers.

TheSleepingInsomniac
May 25th, 2011, 02:39 AM
I am sorry i googled it and found i have know idea what the hell i'm talking about, I got all my info that i used in my last post from a ninth grade health teacher.

The Joker
May 25th, 2011, 06:37 PM
They are paid by the school board to tell you certain things.

Also, OP, I'm still waiting for a response.

CantLiveWithoutYou
May 25th, 2011, 07:17 PM
They are paid by the school board to tell you certain things.

Also, OP, I'm still waiting for a response.

I'm still trying to put you on my ignore list.
I don't care how many times it says Sorry The Joker is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her., I'll keep trying!

And yeah teachers are paid to scare you away from drugs. A cop was being an ass to me because apparently everyone at this school thinks I'm a drug addict even though the only thing I ever tried was bud and I hate it. Proof that cops are paid to try to piss people off.

RoseyCadaver
May 25th, 2011, 08:40 PM
I think it should be legalized,I'm just not gonna use it......I think and hope.




On a side note smoking pot is one thing,eating it is another ;)!

The Joker
May 26th, 2011, 12:49 AM
I'm still trying to put you on my ignore list.
I don't care how many times it says Sorry The Joker is a moderator/admin and you are not allowed to ignore him or her., I'll keep trying!

And yeah teachers are paid to scare you away from drugs. A cop was being an ass to me because apparently everyone at this school thinks I'm a drug addict even though the only thing I ever tried was bud and I hate it. Proof that cops are paid to try to piss people off.

Oh, so you're being an asshat because I disagreed with you. I love your logic. First, you present a terrible fucking argument and can't defend it, now you're continually trying to block me even though it's obviously not working. Why are you so offended that I disagreed with you? I didn't even think you were dumb when I sent my dissection of your argument, but come on. How dumb are you? You're not even going to try and defend yourself? You're a fucking dumbass who should be a little more mature...people in real life are going to pick apart your arguments in the future, and you can't run away from them and press an "ignore" button. Either beef up your argument or don't present a stupid one.

You think I'm trolling? You're the one presenting the same statements that are presented every single time, acting like it's new information, and you're also trying to get a rise out of the moralfags who are against drugs. Try harder, troll.

Scarface
May 26th, 2011, 04:55 AM
Y'all need to calm your tone. So he has a shitty argument. I could go into ramblings of the wise and look at about a couples page worth of those, this doesn't need to be a big deal. There will also be no insulting. I think some things are better left unsaid in a thread like this. Whether you're pro or against, there's always going to be someone complaining or has a counter argument. It's what continues the debate and makes things interesting right? Wrong. There won't be anymore arguing or issues in this thread, or it WILL be locked.

Thanks.

Ruzlier
May 30th, 2011, 08:49 PM
I'm not trying to troll.

No one is really going to pay much attention to the facts. I've seen plenty o' threads like this. There will always be mouth-breathers who glorify weed, and mouth-breathers who don't. And both groups don't understand the facts you've just presented.

Potheads will defend themselves to no end.

They will because its harmless.

LKIFMRUG9556
July 13th, 2011, 02:18 AM
Hey look, another person talking about how great weed is when no one even CARES!

I care! I Prolly would give weed ago now :)

Angel Androgynous
July 15th, 2011, 12:14 AM
Yay! Someone who understands! I am not a pothead but I hate it when people do not look at the facts. (:

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July 15th, 2011, 12:23 AM
Honestly? Weed reminds me of Justin Bieber. Everyone hates them until do some quality research. Then they realize they are not so bad.

PerpetualImperfexion
July 16th, 2011, 02:55 AM
So if you had to choose any drug it, in terms of safety, it would be marijuana correct? I am not trying to debate the subject, but I heard someone mention doing so much weed that it caused a heart attack. Is this in any way possible?