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kezyy
April 20th, 2011, 04:43 AM
What are peoples views on weed?

skinny_white_boy
April 20th, 2011, 04:49 AM
Personally I'm not really a fan of it and would never do it.
But I don't really have a problem with people who do use it.

jason_smitty
April 20th, 2011, 05:32 AM
legalize it

Dimitri
April 20th, 2011, 10:02 PM
I have a strong feeling for being against such a thing, I lost one of my best friends because he took to much and ran across the hi way, I was called ot the scene as I was the closest EMT in the area. I never want to go through that again, I still have nightmares about it.

kezyy
April 21st, 2011, 03:10 AM
Omg I'm sorry about that :( u ever need someone to chat to I'm here

JohnHoper
April 21st, 2011, 03:23 AM
If its illegal, it is for a reason :) don't do it unless prescribed.

Rayquaza
April 24th, 2011, 05:23 AM
dont like it. Its pretty much like "abuse of nature" cause i dont think that plant was grown for smoking

HOLEinyoursoul
April 24th, 2011, 11:33 AM
I believe it's a weak way to escape, but an escape nonetheless. I use it when I write music and work on art projects. I really don't believe it's the best way to get in touch with yourself, because, as one of our friends just stated, it can lead to do stupid things. But it can also be a beautiful shattered mirror. But broken glass cuts.

Zazu
April 24th, 2011, 02:16 PM
Good for some, bad for others (as with most things on this earth). Luckily, I'm one of the majority for whom it only serves as good.

Much prefer it over alcohol and the other recreational drugs that I use from time to time (salvia, nitrous oxide, nicotine e.t.c.) I generally try to stick to the rule of only taking naturally occurring drugs but will be breaking this rule with something quite soft in the near future I hope.

'Legality' of a substance is no longer an issue for me. I find it to be a total fallacy that a naturally occurring chemical which has been around for thousands of years and for which we have naturally occurring chemoreceptors can be classed as truly 'illegal'. This is because 1) THC is not 'illegal' whatsoever in the UK, most people just have next to no understanding of how the UK Common Law Legal System works, 2) There is no such thing as innate authority. Only submission and / or force.

kezyy
April 25th, 2011, 06:14 AM
Thanks for all the comments :)

staying_alive
April 25th, 2011, 09:17 PM
If its illegal, it is for a reason :) don't do it unless prescribed.

So kind of like how blacks couldn't fully vote until 1965? What's the reason for that? How about the state that has laws against swearing in front of women? I love people who act as though the law determines what is right and wrong, because their logic holds no weight whatsoever.

staying_alive
April 25th, 2011, 09:21 PM
I have a strong feeling for being against such a thing, I lost one of my best friends because he took to much and ran across the hi way, I was called ot the scene as I was the closest EMT in the area. I never want to go through that again, I still have nightmares about it.

I'm very sorry for your loss, and I'm sure you've fully determined the weed to be the cause of his actions. However, I've never heard of anything this serious happening due to weed. People usually think crazy shit but don't act on it (acting on it is more of a drunk characteristic). Are you sure there weren't other complications that caused him to do such a drastic thing?

tpzy94
April 25th, 2011, 09:22 PM
i kinda do it n know i shouldnt but if its used right then youre goody

Church
April 25th, 2011, 10:58 PM
It's all good by me.

bleedoutlove
April 26th, 2011, 06:02 AM
I think it's the best plant - cannabis sativa + hemp are honestly 2 of the best plants for mankind.

Random3r
April 26th, 2011, 07:29 PM
crap,, im not a fan of smokin my money up :D

Cap'nCrunch
May 4th, 2011, 09:42 PM
I dislike it immensely. Not because I think its dangerous or because of its legal status, but simply because it makes me feel stupid and lazy. Not to mention it started giving me terrible panic attacks and respiratory problems about a year ago. You couldn't pay me to touch the stuff.

Josiah7
May 5th, 2011, 01:30 AM
If its illegal, it is for a reason :) don't do it unless prescribed.

Can't agree anymore :D

The light
June 3rd, 2011, 09:50 AM
LOVE IT!! it is one of the most amazing plants in the world. God created it for a reason

Wicked_Syn
June 4th, 2011, 12:00 PM
It's pretty fucking awesome.

For all the people who've never smoked it. Go ahead and act all informed on it, like you understand what a Marijuana high is like...but you CAN NOT say shit about it because of what this "drug" can do for you.

I love marijuana because it has made me more of a deep and contemplated thinker. I think so much and I do smoke it for inspiration.

I can't get into detail about my views on it right now. Far to much to say.

But....

LEGALIZE IT....
http://www.tregg13.co.uk/wp-content/gallery/weed-pictures/weed-300x378.jpg

Extreme586
June 4th, 2011, 08:03 PM
Honestly, it pisses me off seeing people in my school talk about it like its the coolest thing and they are so amazing because of it... I don't have much of a problem with the people who do it, just when some of those people think they are so cool because of it and love to tell you and everyone else around how they got "so high". I actually know some people who don't do this but I have heard they do smoke, these are the people I don't mind. I actually even have a friend who is like this, great person and I have only heard he smokes so who knows really? As for weed itself, I'm not sure I would ever do it but I haven't completely thrown the idea away either.

alex95
June 4th, 2011, 10:25 PM
i say legalize it i like it yes i smoke it yes im addicted no

Wicked_Syn
June 5th, 2011, 01:51 PM
Honestly, it pisses me off seeing people in my school talk about it like its the coolest thing and they are so amazing because of it... I don't have much of a problem with the people who do it, just when some of those people think they are so cool because of it and love to tell you and everyone else around how they got "so high". I actually know some people who don't do this but I have heard they do smoke, these are the people I don't mind. I actually even have a friend who is like this, great person and I have only heard he smokes so who knows really? As for weed itself, I'm not sure I would ever do it but I haven't completely thrown the idea away either.


Those aren't stoners bro. Those are posers. People get us confused and think we're all the same..we're not.

Strength
June 6th, 2011, 10:32 AM
I have a strong feeling for being against such a thing, I lost one of my best friends because he took to much and ran across the hi way, I was called ot the scene as I was the closest EMT in the area. I never want to go through that again, I still have nightmares about it.

Alcohol causes problems like that ALOT more than weed so by your logic, we should ban the booze.

Dimitri
June 7th, 2011, 09:29 AM
I drew the tox panels myself. The only thing in his system was some benedryl and a huge load of alcohol. So either the test I ran were inaccqurate or I can't read. I didn't mess up. An until you have the liscence to let me otherwise I have the authority here.

CaptainObvious
June 7th, 2011, 10:37 AM
I drew the tox panels myself. The only thing in his system was some benedryl and a huge load of alcohol. So either the test I ran were inaccqurate or I can't read. I didn't mess up. An until you have the liscence to let me otherwise I have the authority here.

whatever license you have gives you not one whit more of "authority" here.

and, uh... how can you possibly point at weed when there was a "huge load of alcohol" in his system? that's more than slightly absurd. when stupid things done under the influence are compared, it's almost always alcohol and not marijuana that is the cause. i find it a little hilarious that you would mention this fact and purport it to support the conclusion that marijuana caused your friend's death.

Dimitri
June 7th, 2011, 12:04 PM
I am sorry that I placed the word alcohol in here. I just woke up when I commented and I should have waited unilateral I was more awake to post. It was probably all the talk about alcohol that made me type me types that instead of typeing the words a lot of weed. I probably sound like someone who is trying to cover us a lie but why would I lie about something like this. I will admit that I kade a mistake. But there was no trace of alcohol in his system and to tell anymore information would be a breach of HIPAA and I could lose my license to practice.

CaptainObvious
June 7th, 2011, 12:17 PM
by which i assume you mean that you meant to say marijuana instead of alcohol?

in which case the next problem with your asertion is that it is not possible for you to test for marijuana intoxication on a tox screen. all you can test for is metabolites, which do not indicate intoxication necessarily but rather will exist if marijuana has been used at any time within a certain time period previous to the test.

Dimitri
June 7th, 2011, 12:50 PM
When you draw a tox panel you draw three viles from the patient. The royal blue top is the test for any foreign toxic substances in the body hence the marijuana. The next is the red top and we can use it for the BAL check. Then the tigertop is done for any additional test that need run. Each vile can hold 10mL of blood. Each test requires 2mL of blood. We ha enough blood to run 15 different test from the tox panel also you can run more than one test with the same sample pending the previous test. Sorry it took so long to reply. I am eating lunch.

CaptainObvious
June 7th, 2011, 02:07 PM
there's a reason why NHTSC and NIDA have stated that blood tests for marijuana are unreliable for use in DWI: THC plasma concentration does not adequately predict impairment from marijuana consumption. either way, this is somewhat neither here nor there, since the point originally made was that alcohol impairs worse, and therefore your logic ought to apply even more to its consumption.

Dimitri
June 7th, 2011, 03:02 PM
It does not predict impairment, a proven impairment stills means that there was a consumption. Weather or not there is enough to impair was not my call because I only conductthe tests and deliverthe results to the physician. Any amount o marijuana in the body is inappropriate and still a consumption. Inthe 2mL sample I tested there was still trace of marijuana. It was a contributing factor. Unless brnadryl now makes peolple jump infront of a car it had to r te marijuana because there was nothing else.

CaptainObvious
June 7th, 2011, 04:23 PM
Unless brnadryl now makes peolple jump infront of a car it had to r te marijuana because there was nothing else.

benadryl's active compound diphenhydramine is a CNS deliriant and depressant. besides which, presuming your friend isn't alive to ask, there are many non-drug explanations for why a person might jump in front of a car.

Dorsum Oppel
June 7th, 2011, 04:31 PM
dont like it. Its pretty much like "abuse of nature" cause i dont think that plant was grown for smoking
Well , good to know we here at VT have our very own authority on the will of the universe and nature its self. Kudos to you, divine prophet.

So kind of like how blacks couldn't fully vote until 1965? What's the reason for that? How about the state that has laws against swearing in front of women? I love people who act as though the law determines what is right and wrong, because their logic holds no weight whatsoever.
This is a very good, and simple point. I don't see how this basic logic couldn't hold in some peoples heads.

I dislike it immensely. Not because I think its dangerous or because of its legal status, but simply because it makes me feel stupid and lazy. Not to mention it started giving me terrible panic attacks and respiratory problems about a year ago. You couldn't pay me to touch the stuff.
This is a valid reason for not liking weed, although I'm going to remind you that there are many different kinds of weed, which make you feel different things. Some turns you into a hungry cough-vegetable, but some gives you out of body experiences, or surges of amazing creativity.

Honestly, it pisses me off seeing people in my school talk about it like its the coolest thing and they are so amazing because of it... I don't have much of a problem with the people who do it, just when some of those people think they are so cool because of it and love to tell you and everyone else around how they got "so high". I actually know some people who don't do this but I have heard they do smoke, these are the people I don't mind. I actually even have a friend who is like this, great person and I have only heard he smokes so who knows really? As for weed itself, I'm not sure I would ever do it but I haven't completely thrown the idea away either.
I hate kids who pretend they're hot shit because they smoke. However, even worse is kids who pretend they're hot shit because they don't smoke.

Here's some shit I posted in another thread which I don't feel like retyping.
It's a very primal human need to change our surroundings. And for a very long time, people have been obsessed changing our modes of consciousness and the way we interact with reality and space around us. From a very young age, we enjoy spacial displacement (spinning around until we get dizzy, going down long slides and feeling our hearts leap) as a way to change our conscious experience. Roller coasters, hang gliding. We enjoy interacting with our selves and our physical manifestations of internal perceptions of the world. Weed is just another, and one of the best ways to do it because you cans stay in your house, stay still, and it lasts longer. When we experience reality in a different way, it allows us to question and redefine it for purposes of personal growth.

So no, weed isn't just for funny feelings and shits and giggles. Wether or not the smoker realizes it, they're satisfying their carnal human nature.