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Ruzlier
April 12th, 2011, 09:40 PM
K, here is the drug war. Marijuana War. This is from a few documentaries.

This is just some history of our drug war, from a source not funded by an alcohol company scared marijuana will become the recreational drug of choice and blow away alcohol, even though their products kill people on a daily basis.

Remember: All amounts of money I post we spend, is from tax payer money. Yes, taxes an average citizen pays goes to funding so we can kill people for trying to bring a plant into america.



Oh and if you think the drug war is no big deal, its a huge deal. Its bigger than the iraqi war tbh, i mean look at this: http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/ad317/Ruzlier/Old/drugwar.jpg






Here is a short anti weed commercial from a while ago, can't find the video "Marijuana, the dried leaves and flowers of the Indian hemp weed, is used in the form of a cigarette. Marijuana smoking, experts point out, can make a helpless addict of its victim within weeks, causing physical and moral ruin, and death.
Should you ever be confronted with the temptation of taking that first puff of a marijuana cigarette... DON'T DO IT!"


The beginning
Extremely old anti-weed commercials. Not even to the point where it became a smear campaign yet.
Beginning of 20th century ish




Weed was coming to america through mexico(had come here before, but this is to the south west, marijuana was mostly used northeast america, southwest is where smear campaigns stared) it was rumored that it gave the Mexicans super human strength and turned them into blood thirsty murders. (yes, people really believed this.)

It was called "killer weed" and the first marijuana law was passed when a Mexican randomly killed someone in a bar, it was in one town, and they abused it to control Mexicans (Racism?) This was El Paso Ordinance 1914

Weed was still nothing at this point, morphine, opium, and heroin addictions where way more feared at this point in time. The treasury department where given this task (to help this) and they made the federal bueral of narcotics

Harry J Anslinger ran the FBN at this point.
Anslinger was was a prohibitionist, against alcohol. He thought this would work with drugs, too.

He could not do this though to 49 states with his budget, so he campaigned to other states to police themselves.

Only 9 states signed the document saying they must all police themselves against it.

Weed was becoming huge at this point, especially with jazz (jazz and weed arnt bad together, you should try it)

Anslinger's only way to fix this was to run smear campaigns.

So what did he do?

His idea was IF YOU SMOKE WEED, YOU WILL GO INSANE!!!!!!!!!!

He wanted to make america thik weed, growing on the side of rodes at this point, is the biggest known menice known to man.

So he started smearing weed with addiction to kids, along with the inanity, and killing people. Oh and they still said it causes death.



This campagin made every state sign on.

This made, the marijuana tax act. Any weed in the us without a tax stamp from the treasury department was illgeal, and they gave nearly no stamps out, practically making it illgeal.

Overnight, millions became criminals.

Anti marijuana activist, the new york mayor, had a six year study done on weed. Proving every negative effect anslinger made up.

The reports where destroyed by ansligner, well he tried, tons of copies where put out. He stopped all research supplies of weed to everyone, and ordered his min to try to convict people who disagreed. He for some reason felt the entrainment industry would be good for this (wander why, weed and entertainment... woah.. i dont get it) he arrested many jazz musians.

Hollywood didn't want to get taken down, so let the treasury department completely control anything about drugs.

The main reason he was so against it, is it hurt his industry, he hade a steel company or somthing and hemp was becoming somthing that if you don't have in your metals, its not work buying, since it was so cheap and so effective, It would cost him millions to convert to hemp though, which is why he attacked it as a recreational drug, there would be no other way in hell he'd get people against it.
This covers 1937 - 1947. The cost of all this? $220 Million. With inflation thats more than you'll ever see in your lifetime times 1000


They needed new attacks now

So this is where gateway theroy came. if you smoked it, you would become addicted to heroin. Plain as that (heroin became nothing because of the attention weed got)

If you smoked weed, you would crave heroin, and sstart using it, become physically dependent.
So, they couldn't fight weed, just say it gets you addicted to heroin, then smered heroin, lied about it mostly, not saying its good at all, but pretty much used all the idea against weed on heroin.

This heroin scare gave anslinger a perfect way to fight marijuana.

He wanted to make marijuana penalities harsher, oh and if you didn't agree with him, you where considered a communist, since thats who anslinger blamed for the drug trafficing of weed into america
They wanted to make people scared communist wanted to dope up america.
Harriet S Truman signed the Boggs Act of 1951, making Mandatory minim sentences dramatically harsher

5 years later, Narcotic Control Act 1956 passed making way more harsh.

Comparisions, boggs was like weed in the middle off a bullzey board, being hit by 60 darts rite away
Narcotic control act - like a nuke just hit the center of this board. Oh, did I mention its about the same laws on it we have today? For how harmless it is, this comparision is perfect.

This made MMS 2-8 Years for first conviction. In Missouri, you had the possibility of life for second conviction.

They thought this stopped the whole Marijuana industry, well the moronic government did.

Anslingers life was becoming nearly complete, by going to the un, and got over 100 countries outlawing weed along the world. Lets just say he had some good jewish writers, because he got weed outlawed all around the world. Because mexicans used it to chill out after hard labor.

How much did this all cost? From 1948-1963 They spent 1.5 Billion Dollars in tax payer. Hmm... Now whats 10 things that money could have been used for... 10 is to small actually , you can list 100...million

Now here is where they started using stuff they tell 4th graders today, you will loose motivation and withdrawl from realtity of you smoke it. Probably mixin it up with lsd..

They where still attacking it because it was becoming huge for teenagers, everywhere. It was used in colages heavily.

These people where all asked if they felt any feelings torwads using H, loosing motivation, leaving reality was all false. This arose tons of marijuana activist.

Dont see it yet? after 1963 , college kids, marijuana activist. Hippies. Yup.

Anslinger dead now, the new FBN tried to make a smear campaign saying you will be a looser, unfunctial, just not want to do anything, never have fun, not care about school, sit around. do nothing.


The federal Govt finally approved scientific testing, since they didn't find anything of the smear campaign true. It was a waste of money practically, they got the same results all marijuana users told them.

This was the time of the vietnam war.

This is where the term shotgunning came, they put weed in the camber, blew on it, smoke came out the barrel, they took turns hitting it. Yes, it came from a real shotgun, and yes. Half the soldiers where high in this war.

Then came one of the biggest douchebags ever known to man. Nixon.

He put his foot down on weed smuggling from mexican, they totatly searched your car, sent drug dogs inside them, had mirrors looking under it, you weren't going to smuggle weed in. This lasted 3 weeks, since very little was found, and it took hours and hours to get over the border.

What did nixon do after this? Spend tax payer money on teaching cops how to find marijuana smokers, they would search ash trays, one little but , a if it is 1/100th inch of a join in the ash tray, you are considered in possession. This time is also when white kids statistics in getting arrested passed minorities.

Now, if you want to know how bad the laws where at this time, a 25 year old man who got home from vietnam was caught with just under an ounce, and got charged with 50 years. Just fought the worst war, and is going to die in a jail now. For doing nothing wrong.

Congress was persuaded to remove MMS, and reduce possession crimes. Win for us!
War on weed 1964-1969 not 3, or 4, or 5 billion dollars. This erra of the war on Weed was $9 Billion of tax payer money. Did people not relize the big amounts of taxes they pay is going torwads stuff like this? Oh wait, they probably did, but its illgeal to not pay! So its illgeal to not pay the people running smear campaigns and lies on what you use for fun... fuck the way the world works.



They really fucking failed with there next idea, if you smoke weed, bad things will happen.

No, I am not saying that to sum it all up, I mean that is WHAT THEY USED. Your parents money was used by the government to try to tell kids if you smoke weed bad things happen. Maybe even you. Um...


The brain cell loss idea
They gave animals tons of amounts of weed, and counted brain cells in regular monkeys then compared it to brain cells in monkeys they made smoke 63 insnaely strong joints a day (Seeing as thc levels on the raise, probably strong ass weed u can get here in america a day) over a period of 5 minuets for 3 months. Everyday.
Reality Check: After 4 minuets of no oxygen (the monkeys had none, they wore gas mask) brain cells die. Do this every day for 3 months, no fucking shit theres going to be somthing going on....

So, to addon to try to add even more negative ideas to weed, they sad men who smoke it will grow breast. Hm. I think since it was 50 years since weed came big they woulda noticed, but hell, magainzes and other popular media said scientific stuides proved it, so it must be true! even though it hadn't been happening, in the 50 years it was used.. (or the 10,000 years used, over the world of course)

Anti Marijuana Ideas arose that it should not be a criminal offeninse to experiment with weed (I think they given up all hope on it being totaly legal) and that the laws where used be police to arrest people for racisim, hairstyles, clothing styles ect they did not like. (Which I think is totaly true, seeing how many more blacks are in jail for weed when not that many more blacks smoke..)

Studies proving the boob ideas ect where false, where in pamplets. Nixon threw it away, not even opening it (aww, got some sand up in ur vag ur getting owned by criminals?)

He finally adresses the recomendation to leagalize marijuana.

Of course he does the complete opposite, and wages all out war on marijuana(dont u love this guy?)

And made the fucking dea, combining the FBN and all other old anti weed govt run drug agencies. (So the dea was started to stop weed, and does not approve of it, but do approve of drugs that kill hundreds of people a year. Hmm.. )

the DEA with more than 4,000 agents and workers now could legally get wire taps, and enter any home, without knocking, which they still have the rite to do, without a warrant. And could get any info on any ordinary citizen they wanted. If they wanted every bit of history of your life ever documented, they could get it. Legally.

Now know how they say your parents probably smoked weed , this isn't your parents weed ect, well they have a reason. Marijuana after this was extremely popular among middle age adults. Weed was how it is now mostly, had bongs, pipes, edibles, hash, and much more. They had what we had. If somone you know what middle age in the 70's say they never smoked weed, they are lieing, nerds, or better have a pretty god damn good story why they never did "all my friends did, but i had asmtha"
(reminds me of facebook, all the kids thought it was cool and all, adults joined in, took over, and kids are like ehh... it was kinda.. my thing... you know.. why the fuck did we leave myspace? our parents regulate our social lives now..)


Because of the middle age adults having more of a, should i say, voice the govt will listen to, being consisted of middle age adults, marijuana activist stepped up. This was a perfect chance to decrimizlation. A marjour one everyone looked up to was arrested for " 10 for 2" 10 years for 2 joints. People wrote songs for him(entertainers) His arrest did not make people happy. At all.

Heres somthing you can finally probably relate to. Know the John Lenon song John Sinclair? That was him. Listen to it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZJLInCgem8

I personally have heard the ganja, ganja , ganja, ganja line. So me being not even 16 is seeing the drug war, and its effects of media ect..

The first place to make it a non criminal offeninse was a city in michigian, making possesion the equavilent of a parking ticket. (Ann Arbor City ordinance 1972)

Oregon became the first state to completely decriminalize it, still ilgeal, but hey, im not going to complain about them finally doing somthing rite. (Oregon Decriminliztion Bill 1973)

Richard Nixon because of his legal issues, resigned from presidency. Very good day for pot smokers, he was a super power in the drug war. its like if we killed hitler in ww2 (well, kinda.)

10 other states quickly decrimilized marijuana (most are the same states that now allowe medical marijuana.) WIN WIN WIN!

Jimmy Carter, who favored decriminlation of marijuana for the new electoin raised hella popularity, under 1 oz of weed is not criminal to him. His competetors did support it.

With his support, america was about ready to give up on the drug war. (well the govt was, the govt is suppose to make laws, thats it, thats the definition of government, idk what they have done really)


Now call your mommy and daddy, this one is going to piss the living shit out of them

War on Marijuana 1970-1977 Cost $76 Billion. Of their taxes. Go tell them, say the govt spent 76 Billion in a failed attempt to stop marijuana with taxes they had. Tell me if they are ok with that.




Now, having no options. They turn to a anti marijuana idea from 1409 (or somthing like that) when the pope declared marijuana sac-religious (satan)

Yep. You respect Satan for smoking weed. ("But wait, didnt the bible say god gave us all plants? " Well yes sunny, "why they say that then? " they where fucking dickheads who where morons "makes since, thank you" )

Weed had entered the media, movies, tv, everywhere by this time, since the old FBN wasn't there to scare the shit out of holly wood anymore.
"The Fbi claims that a huge shipment of what they call killer dope has been smuggled into nyc, they urge urers not to smoke this dope which is greenish brown , in color , not seedy , contains mostly cannabis buds warning symptoms are a mild uforia , slight rise in pulse, some hallucination, and death by laughter within 15 minuets of smoking it. In effort to aid the fbi , we are undertaking our own investigator, and would urge you to send any marijuana you find to us anonymously, for those of you who may be worried. Simply place a small sample o the cannabis in a envelope to this adress... " (Obviousley just describing good weed then saying send it to me)

Parents where against it now, fear for the kids of course, since its so much more fucking harmful cause they are 16 and should go drink instead.

Making laws against drug paraphernalia, and not just the drug itself, ruined many jobs for head shops, ect.

Carter being president was being suspected of cocaine use, and the only way to get out of it was to put his foot down on all drugs.

@carter fuck you you stupid self centored fuck cause u mite get a bad rep as using coke u kill the perfect chance to decrimilize weed fuck you

Well here came reagen. fucktard. His war on drugs claimed scientist have confirmed marijuana is the most dangerous drug in the untied states (hey regan, that cofee has cafeen. which has killed people. fucker)

This came the jsut say no, dare, abovetheinfluence, panda the drugs are bad guy in a costume who is stoned out of his mind anyway to do that job, ect. Just say no. They sent cops to talk to elementry schools.

They targeted rd graders. This was the Anti - Drug abuse act 1986. , and the same act in 1988. (comone now guys, you gotta remember some of this. just say no. blah blah. being told drugs are for loosers and no one does them besides loosers, despite the fact so many rich and famous people smoke weed, i mean the good ones not like lady gaga and shit.)

This was reffered to as the zero-tolerance policy aswell.

Want proof these guys where fucking morons "Using illgeal drugs is against the law" Yes they used this line, I am not joking with you guys. People used this, for the war on what this whole forum is about. very eductated fucking statment to why i shouldn't smoke weed eh?

Fucking george bush worked with him too, probably trying to cover up his coke problem.

Now, this cost not much you know. This one wont make you mad, from 1980-1998 the war on marijuana was only 214.7 BILLION FUCKING DOLLARS( didnt work)

Since he took office, over 3 million people had been arrested for marijuana, more than any other administartion. The US GOVT is continuing the war on drugs. So what do you think The price will be for this era? I don't think it will be as much as nixons, or maybe idk, prop 19 and stuff got people all hyped up. That was 1 state that is already decrimilized. Well who knows, but think. When taxes come buy. Your paying for them to Keep this shit illgeal. Your paying to keep people in jail for relaxing and smoking a joint. And it is all the War On Marijuana's fault.

Ruzlier
April 12th, 2011, 09:42 PM
OH, and if you support the illgealization of marijuana, you support drug cartals raising, and they just killed a 22 month old baby because the dad got into some trouble with the mexican mafia.


I wrote this myself not now but on another forum before, it is based off several documentarys, and I watched one while writing this, and then watched another one and edited it and added stuff. So if you say its false, or lies, your a moron



Oh and btw, any "well marijuana is bad" people, just leave. LD-50. The most common thing used for drugs. Its the amount of a drug needed to make 50% of the test animals overdose. It has none. Scientist have not been able to make an animal overdose on marijuana so far, they sufficate from lack of oxygen before they overdose. So until we find a way to let an animal breathe no oxygen for 20 minuets without dying, we will never know marijuanas ld50.

Oh, cafeen is something you can overdose on. So ban soda! .. ?

hollister_
April 12th, 2011, 11:08 PM
marajuana is bad.

Magus
April 13th, 2011, 01:14 AM
marajuana is bad.

Have you tried it? Have you studied its chemical composition and its effect on human body? Have you studied the economic and ecologic benefits that would come from growing variety of cannabis - do you even know what a cash crop is? Have you studied the after affects of legalising this plant in a society? Have you studied weed's influence on art and all of its fields through out the history and up to this date?

If haven't done your homework, how can you conclude by saying weed is 'bad', huh?

Zazu
April 13th, 2011, 04:50 PM
:wub:

Larvely.

hollister_
April 13th, 2011, 07:31 PM
Have you tried it? Have you studied its chemical composition and its effect on human body? Have you studied the economic and ecologic benefits that would come from growing variety of cannabis - do you even know what a cash crop is? Have you studied the after affects of legalising this plant in a society? Have you studied weed's influence on art and all of its fields through out the history and up to this date?

If haven't done your homework, how can you conclude by saying weed is 'bad', huh?

no. no. no. no. yes. no. no. no.

Ruzlier
April 13th, 2011, 08:52 PM
no. no. no. no. yes. no. no. no.

Your a moron, If you call marijuana bad you call cafeen, sugar, and driving bad and dangerous. Seriousley, you have more of a chance of getting hurt from going out to a grocery store to buy food than sitting home smoking weed and ordering pizza.

hollister_
April 13th, 2011, 10:03 PM
Your a moron, If you call marijuana bad you call cafeen, sugar, and driving bad and dangerous. Seriousley, you have more of a chance of getting hurt from going out to a grocery store to buy food than sitting home smoking weed and ordering pizza.

it all is dangerous, smarticle

SuperSuraj
April 13th, 2011, 11:55 PM
I can't believe you would sit here and defend a gateway drug. Sure it may not hurt you right now, but it leads to the abuse of other drugs. Eventually you will grow immunity the the high feeling given to you by weed, then you will want to move onto something that effects you more. People don't get addicted to weed itself they get addicted to the high. Before you go off and start saying "oh how do you know have you tried it..." no, i haven't but my dad has and does. Once he became impervious to the high he had to move on to something else that something else was heroin, then meth, crack, LSD, and whatever the fuck he could get his hands on. So DO NOT sit behind a computer screen and tell me weed is not bad, because if there was not weed to smoke my family would not be broken up right now and i would not have missed out on having a father my entire childhood.

People like you make me so fucking angry because you have no idea what weed does in the future, it tears apart happy families, but you will never understand that feeling, and for your sake i hope you dont have too.

Magus
April 14th, 2011, 12:31 AM
People like you make me so fucking angry because you have no idea what weed does in the future, it tears apart happy families, but you will never understand that feeling, and for your sake i hope you dont have too.

My father, too tried almost every drug: heroin, meth, cocain, weed, ecstasy, lsd, dhatura, inhalents. Almost Everything.

Did you know that my father told me bed time story about his experiences with the drug?

He does drugs annually. I don't see us torned apart. I don't see him in jail or in the grave. He is sleeping nicely in his bed in the room next to mine. And we are going to have a nice father-son day today.

The only difference between my father and yours with respect to drug is my father knows when to do drugs, where to do drugs, how to drugs.

It's really your father's fault, not the drugs. But I have to admit that many of my family members, mainly cousin from father side, died from heroin abuse. They did because they did not know when, where and how to use the thing.

Every person is different. You cannot simply use you father's drug problem as an arguement against drugs.

There are a lot of people around you who are indeed soft drug users. Few of them are hard drug users - why aren't they in trouble. You see where this is going?

I know you are angry to what happened to your family, I am sorry for that. But in the end, the drug is not the one to be blamed, it's the user who uses the drugs.

bleedoutlove
April 14th, 2011, 06:55 AM
The Union :)
I am massively supportive of the legalisation of Cannabis (Marijuana).
I have seen it cure many illnesses and disorders (including schizophrenia) and yet it's still illegal, which I find sickening.

bleedoutlove
April 14th, 2011, 06:58 AM
I can't believe you would sit here and defend a gateway drug. Sure it may not hurt you right now, but it leads to the abuse of other drugs. Eventually you will grow immunity the the high feeling given to you by weed, then you will want to move onto something that effects you more. People don't get addicted to weed itself they get addicted to the high. Before you go off and start saying "oh how do you know have you tried it..." no, i haven't but my dad has and does. Once he became impervious to the high he had to move on to something else that something else was heroin, then meth, crack, LSD, and whatever the fuck he could get his hands on. So DO NOT sit behind a computer screen and tell me weed is not bad, because if there was not weed to smoke my family would not be broken up right now and i would not have missed out on having a father my entire childhood.

People like you make me so fucking angry because you have no idea what weed does in the future, it tears apart happy families, but you will never understand that feeling, and for your sake i hope you dont have too.

There's no such thing as a gateway drug - just people who can't take responsibility for their own actions. If there was a gateway drug, would it not be coffee? Or chocolate? Then alcohol?
Of course not.
The only possible way people could use this as an excuse because the prohibition of cannabis exposes young people to other drugs via the black market.
I'm very sorry about your family. But it is a good medicine. I've seen it prevent suicide. I know families where people have smoked it for 20+ years and are living good lives.

Ruzlier
April 14th, 2011, 07:21 PM
I can't believe you would sit here and defend a gateway drug. Sure it may not hurt you right now, but it leads to the abuse of other drugs. Eventually you will grow immunity the the high feeling given to you by weed, then you will want to move onto something that effects you more. People don't get addicted to weed itself they get addicted to the high. Before you go off and start saying "oh how do you know have you tried it..." no, i haven't but my dad has and does. Once he became impervious to the high he had to move on to something else that something else was heroin, then meth, crack, LSD, and whatever the fuck he could get his hands on. So DO NOT sit behind a computer screen and tell me weed is not bad, because if there was not weed to smoke my family would not be broken up right now and i would not have missed out on having a father my entire childhood.

People like you make me so fucking angry because you have no idea what weed does in the future, it tears apart happy families, but you will never understand that feeling, and for your sake i hope you dont have too.
The gateway theroy is total bullshit, all these stories you here some kid smoked weed then went to heroin because weed wasn't storng enough is bs, ask 99% of weed only smokers if they want to do coke or heroin, they will say no. The gateway theroy doesn't work, you could have started with milk, got bored, went to soda, got bored, and then tried alcohol. Marijuana is only a gateway to your pantry.
Also, most people who do say it was a gateway say they where offered by a drug dealer or weren't with the rite people when they first used. Because it is illgeal you push people to deal with drug dealers who don't care about you, they just want your money, and they can make a little more by selling you smack so why not try and get you on it?


And it does not tear apart families at all, that is physically impossible. The only thing that tears aparts family is the lies about it and laws, and the false propaganda people are taught that its bad. Marijuana itself only has as much ability of tearing apart families as choclat milk does.

This is my challenge: tell me how marijuana tears apart families.
Rules:
1) May not have anything to do with the law
2) Must not have anything to do with morals, unleses it's looked at as something just as dangerous as cafeen.
3) Must not have anything to do with somone spending all their money on it, addiction as been proven wrong, and it is only as addictive as gambling. Overbuying is your own fault, not weed.

EDIT:
Oh and btw, you don't just grow a tolerance to being high. There is something called a tolerance break, don't smoke for a month, you'll hit like a first timer. I have been to a point where I didn't feel that high unless i smoked a lot, I did not feel the urge to go to drugs, and so have many friends. Any bullshit about the 21 year old crackhead who started with weed and got a huge tolerance so went to crack is bullshit, because thats not even the same type of high! Injecting heroin and smoking weed is 2 totaly different things. Its like saying you have a tolerance to 5 hour energy so you went to cocaine.

hollister_
April 14th, 2011, 07:58 PM
The gateway theroy is total bullshit, all these stories you here some kid smoked weed then went to heroin because weed wasn't storng enough is bs, ask 99% of weed only smokers if they want to do coke or heroin, they will say no. The gateway theroy doesn't work, you could have started with milk, got bored, went to soda, got bored, and then tried alcohol. Marijuana is only a gateway to your pantry.
Also, most people who do say it was a gateway say they where offered by a drug dealer or weren't with the rite people when they first used. Because it is illgeal you push people to deal with drug dealers who don't care about you, they just want your money, and they can make a little more by selling you smack so why not try and get you on it?


And it does not tear apart families at all, that is physically impossible. The only thing that tears aparts family is the lies about it and laws, and the false propaganda people are taught that its bad. Marijuana itself only has as much ability of tearing apart families as choclat milk does.

This is my challenge: tell me how marijuana tears apart families.
Rules:
1) May not have anything to do with the law
2) Must not have anything to do with morals, unleses it's looked at as something just as dangerous as cafeen.
3) Must not have anything to do with somone spending all their money on it, addiction as been proven wrong, and it is only as addictive as gambling. Overbuying is your own fault, not weed.

EDIT:
Oh and btw, you don't just grow a tolerance to being high. There is something called a tolerance break, don't smoke for a month, you'll hit like a first timer. I have been to a point where I didn't feel that high unless i smoked a lot, I did not feel the urge to go to drugs, and so have many friends. Any bullshit about the 21 year old crackhead who started with weed and got a huge tolerance so went to crack is bullshit, because thats not even the same type of high! Injecting heroin and smoking weed is 2 totaly different things. Its like saying you have a tolerance to 5 hour energy so you went to cocaine.


oh my god you're annoying
weed is not good for anyone neither is crack or heroin or whatever else.

Perseus
April 14th, 2011, 08:07 PM
weed is not good for anyone
Why?

Ruzlier
April 14th, 2011, 10:16 PM
oh my god you're annoying
weed is not good for anyone neither is crack or heroin or whatever else.

Get off my thread if im annoying to you, the truley annoying people are mis informed people like you. Weed is not good for you, crack and heroin are not good for you, but weed is not bad for you. If you are sick though weed could be tremendously beneficial, people say straight up without there life would be totaly different. It would be fucked up. One women on the dr oz show the other day said she lost everything because of siezures, well not the seizures, she lost everything because of the medicines she was on. The medicines did not help. She smoked weed for 8 years straight, got her life back, and never had 1 seizure those whole 8 years. So Cmon, try to say weed is bad with no evidence. Go ahead

bleedoutlove
April 15th, 2011, 12:16 PM
Get off my thread if im annoying to you, the truley annoying people are mis informed people like you. Weed is not good for you, crack and heroin are not good for you, but weed is not bad for you. If you are sick though weed could be tremendously beneficial, people say straight up without there life would be totaly different. It would be fucked up. One women on the dr oz show the other day said she lost everything because of siezures, well not the seizures, she lost everything because of the medicines she was on. The medicines did not help. She smoked weed for 8 years straight, got her life back, and never had 1 seizure those whole 8 years. So Cmon, try to say weed is bad with no evidence. Go ahead


I've seen cannabis help families so much. I've seen it cure schizophrenia (that's right bitches, CURE.). It helps my chronic pain but the main reason I use it is for depression, and I only have it every so often -- not since 14th Feb now -- it makes me good again,til slowly I fall down into my rut again, so if smoking what, £5 - £10 worth makes me better, perfectly better for atleast a week, you tell me that isn't good.
Fuck Propaganda

Ruzlier
April 15th, 2011, 04:07 PM
I've seen cannabis help families so much. I've seen it cure schizophrenia (that's right bitches, CURE.). It helps my chronic pain but the main reason I use it is for depression, and I only have it every so often -- not since 14th Feb now -- it makes me good again,til slowly I fall down into my rut again, so if smoking what, £5 - £10 worth makes me better, perfectly better for atleast a week, you tell me that isn't good.
Fuck Propaganda

You are so rite, weed is the oldest medicine EVER and was the best and worked in the 1930s untill it was banned. It still is the best medicine, im not christian but if whoever reading this is then do you really believe your 'god' put weed here for no reason, it cures so many things, and always has.

jason_smitty
April 16th, 2011, 10:44 AM
it should be legalized, for medical and recreational

Iron Man
April 19th, 2011, 11:26 PM
oh my god you're annoying
weed is not good for anyone neither is crack or heroin or whatever else.

Of course crack, heroin, and whatever else isn`t good for you. But, why is marijuana bad also? Do you have facts to prove that it is bad? So, if you say that something is so, it is? If that is the case, get me a sandwich. But since it isn`t, back up your facts, and you won`t get the much deserved ridicule. *Exhales* Anyway, I believe that marijuana has medical benefits with cancer and glaucoma. And of course, it isn`t as bad as cigarettes, since it doesn`t contain as many of the carcinogens as cigarretes do. However, I don`t think it is right for people to spend all of their time smoking, when they could be out working. Doing it after work sounds alright to me though.

A.J.
April 20th, 2011, 10:10 AM
Everyone knows about how it became racist propaganda to outlaw hemp and all thaty jazz, but for the sole reason of EVERYONE on both sides of the spectrum (Gov,DEA,etc. to the drug lords) profit from the war on drugs. Drug lords have the supply noone else can get and the government make money off all of the arests. Its a BS law that is helping noone in the middle.

Ruzlier
April 20th, 2011, 10:57 AM
Of course crack, heroin, and whatever else isn`t good for you. But, why is marijuana bad also? Do you have facts to prove that it is bad? So, if you say that something is so, it is? If that is the case, get me a sandwich. But since it isn`t, back up your facts, and you won`t get the much deserved ridicule. *Exhales* Anyway, I believe that marijuana has medical benefits with cancer and glaucoma. And of course, it isn`t as bad as cigarettes, since it doesn`t contain as many of the carcinogens as cigarretes do. However, I don`t think it is right for people to spend all of their time smoking, when they could be out working. Doing it after work sounds alright to me though.

Seeing people as sitting around and smoking it is a misconception, america is put to the point where marijuana is a terrible thing to smoke according to the law, and makes it hard to smoke and have a good job, but a lot of very famous people or people who helpt built america smoked weed, you could work all day go home and smoke a joint and chill out, all this false propaganda makes you think weed makes you lazy, when your high you may be a little lazy, but your truly not, because when your high you relize that getting up to take the garbage out is just not f'ing worth it :D

Church
April 26th, 2011, 03:47 PM
We need to stop spending money on trying to stop weed which we will never be able to do and we shouldn't even bother, personally I use it and think it should be legal. Anyways, take money from trying to stop weed and put it towards stopping the flow of meth etc, drugs that actually cause harm.