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Old July 22nd, 2006, 09:03 PM   #1
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I was just in the puberty forum and a couple of forums were locked because some were seeking advice about sex and we aren't allowed to give adivce on such matters, but do you think this rule should change? I mean so many teens are having sex and i just think that we should be here to help them with whatever questions they have on the matter, I mean we help them with everything else

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Old July 22nd, 2006, 09:09 PM   #2
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Old July 22nd, 2006, 09:45 PM   #3
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Old July 22nd, 2006, 10:38 PM   #4
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To be honest, I don't think we should change it. For one reason, we have a puberty forum, but puberty and such questions are not what this board was made for. I don't even think teens should be having sex, or at least no where near what it has come to. Why advocate it? Though if I remember correctly, someone recently said "change is bad." Going on that alone, we shouldn't change it, but it's clear that statement was an opinion...

Though we allow quite a lot of what I believe we shouldn't for a teen site. I mean, would you honestly feel comfortable explaining to your guardians what goes on in the puberty forum alone? I think it would be fine talking about any other forum... Eh... Just a point of view I suppose.

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Old July 22nd, 2006, 10:43 PM   #5
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To be honest, I don't think we should change it. For one reason, we have a puberty forum, but puberty and such questions are not what this board was made for. I don't even think teens should be having sex, or at least no where near what it has come to. Why advocate it? Though if I remember correctly, someone recently said "change is bad." Going on that alone, we shouldn't change it, but it's clear that statement was an opinion...

Though we allow quite a lot of what I believe we shouldn't for a teen site. I mean, would you honestly feel comfortable explaining to your guardians what goes on in the puberty forum alone? I think it would be fine talking about any other forum... Eh... Just a point of view I suppose.
Yea you might think that Teens shouldn't be having sex but guess what they are? and we just have to accept that...and how is giving advice on sex advocating it? That's like saying giving out condoms is promoting people to have sex, which isn't the case, we shouldn't just turn away people because they decided to have sex, we should help them and offer any advice possible.

Kiros, People come here to share their personal thoughts, thoughts that they cannot dare say infront of their parents or guardians, that is why we are here, and we are a community to help people in need.

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Old July 22nd, 2006, 10:50 PM   #6
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You have to put a limit on the sex topic though.
By giving people advice we might be turning them away from sex, but giving advice would certainly not promote it. If people are asking a question about sex, then they've probapply already had it, or are set on they're way to doing it.
We can't tell people what to do, if someone wants to have sex, we have no right to stop them.

Another thing, was the board made for tech junkies, was the board made for media junkies, was it made for a chatroom, no.
Change is good you have to expand, change is good.

Make a sub-forum "Sex Ed"
No matter what the rules say people are going to ask sex questions, so you might as well make a forum for it.

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Old July 22nd, 2006, 10:55 PM   #7
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Teens DO have sex
get over it
its not your job to decide what you consider is morally right for us to talk about

And to answer your question
I would have NO problem discussing in detail whats talked about in the pub forum
My fam is very open when it comes to talking about puberty and sex
We'll bring it up in public situations to just to try and make our guests squirm
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Only in some areas is change bad
like the coffee forum for instance

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Old July 22nd, 2006, 10:59 PM   #8
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I'm not saying that teens aren't having sex. I know they are, and I also believe that it shouldn't be happening - or at the very least, not as much. I know that just answering how to have sex is not advocating it, but can you honestly tell me that if we allow that, then someone is not going to say "yeah, try it" or something to the extent...

Dante, these forums are not intended for puberty. A puberty intended board is, for example, Puberty101. Though the puberty forum remains to attract newcomers, I know. We help teens, yes, and so we should help them out all we can, and sometimes it's better not to allow such content. If we allow sex topics, then why not sexual images? In fact, why not porn itself? So yes, change is bad, right? We have rules and restrictions for good reasons, and so we should keep it that way.

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Old July 22nd, 2006, 11:01 PM   #9
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Talking about sex is different then seeing pictures or sex or porn.
We would keep the porn rule.

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wait wait wait....you are comparing giving sexual advice to people to allowing pornography???

see this is why peoiple turned out so fucked up in life because they dont have proper sexual education.....and and it does happen

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okay first of all your PERSONAL OPINION that teens shouldnt have sex is just that YOUR opinion

Kiros take a look at Texas
they are the only state that teaches only abstenience
did you know that texas has more teen pregnancys per year then all other states combined?

Being allowed to talk about sex
and ask questions does not mean you will run out and have sex

it also seems clear that the "sex dosent exist" policy aint workin so well

Were not saying have a seperate forum for sex talk
just allow it in the pub forum

and you know very well that this site wasent created for tech junkies paradise either

and porn
is COMPLETLY diffrent then talking about sex

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Old July 23rd, 2006, 02:37 AM   #12
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No, this is supposed to be a forum about peuberty, and I think it's already out of hand. I don't go to that forum for the simple fact that if my parents ever saw any of the topics, I'd be screwed out of my mind.


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No, this is supposed to be a forum about peuberty, and I think it's already out of hand. I don't go to that forum for the simple fact that if my parents ever saw any of the topics, I'd be screwed out of my mind.
why would they care?
and how would they see? i've been here for 2yrs VERY active for the majority of it
nobody here has ever seen VT

I dont go there simply cause i'm not 14 anymore

But I agree that it should be allowed for the simple reason that teens should be able to talk and ask questions freely about sex because its a HUGE part of puberty ang growing up ingeneral
And if you have a question
from what i've herd the majority of the members here have nowhere to ask it
nowhere to go period
which I dont agree with
There are allot of people that post questions about it anyway
members answer
no harm done
so why not just make it so the mods arent put between a rock and a hard place when they see those threads
of course i belive they should have full right to use there own disgression on it
but it shouldnt be an auto lock

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Old July 23rd, 2006, 03:18 AM   #14
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Cody, what do you mean Texas is the only state that teaches abstinence? I'm in Louisiana and I was schooled on it. In fact, we even had someone come to our high school and show just how stupid sex before marriage is. The society today is manipulated by the media so it seems more or less natural that teens accept sex. In fact, nowadays, even small children accept it because of the stupid media. Sex is something that shows the true passion for each other in a couple, however, today's society has torn that completely to shreds. Now, sex is thought of somewhat as 'fun' for a guy and it's just something to get him off all while a girl just let's him do it because she thinks it will strengthen their relationship... Guess what! It barely ever does, in fact, sometimes the guy even leaves her because he got all what he wanted. That's just plain sick.

Though do not think I'm saying that all sex is like that between teens. I know a teen couple that were both virgins and are still very much in love. A month before school let out, they gave their virginity to each other and both of them are still so happy. I'm a very good friend with the girl and I support her for what she did. I'm sure this happens in more than one relationship... Say like Veronica and her guy. Veronica as posted about it and I think it was beautiful, however, it's not always like that. I know another friend of mine that was thrown into a complete depression because her guy left her after getting what he wanted... You have no idea how much pain that deals to a girl - even I don't. Though I do know that a girl has a bond with their partner after having sex (though the same bond kind of bond she would have with a child of hers).

Now besides leaving a girl heartbroken and depressed, do you know how many people die from STD's? Well in 1998, approximately 30,000 deaths were recorded from STD's. That number has not stayed the same nor has it decreased - meaning it has increased. The number of infections are insanely higher than that. Oh, and do you know of HPV? I guess one could consider it just as bad, if not worse than HIV. HPV can take years to show anything at all. The longest I know of is 11 years. And you know what's really fascinating? Once you have HPV, you cannot be curred. You are contagious for the rest of your life. Condoms don't work against it either. It goes through contact of the skin. This means, you actually don't even have to have sex with your partner to transfer it to them when you have this. Oh, and the warts from HPV have to be burnt off either with several laser or acid treatments.

Cody, I don't know about you, but I would like to do all I can to prevent any teen from getting any string of an STD, especially because of HPV, which if a teen develops, will not be able to have sex with anyone for the rest of their life without transmitting it.

Yes, everyone, it is my own opinion. Good grief, I thought that was clear. I'm not trying to start a revolution nor am I stating what will be done in the future. Get over it, I have my opinion and I'm actually stating it.

Cody, porn is directly related to sex. To say it's not is contrasting common sense. If we allow sexual topics, then why not allow that crap as well? This is why we have these restrictions. I will not lift a rule that I know is limiting a little chaos on this board. The fact of it is, if anything, we should be thinking about limiting the questions more. It's clear that some very questionable topics are appearing in the puberty forum. These topics are probably why a lot of members would not feel comfortable with their family members knowing of this site.

Ah, and Ant, you have a very good analogy about the Drug Abuse forum, however, it's an abuse forum. It's made so people can get help on stopping the abuse. It's not called "Drugs! More Drugs!." Read the title again and again and look for a connection between what I'm saying and what the forum is for.

Dante, I'm sorry, but we are not proper sexual education. If someone needs it, they should take a course, or maybe check out Puberty101. I'm sure they have a lot of sexual related topics.

I'm just saying that I'm against it, so I will not lift the rule. I did not just write out an incredibly long explanation for nothing, so before you judge me and my decision, please read everything. Though hey, let's all remember "change is bad"

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Old July 23rd, 2006, 04:52 AM   #15
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Though hey, let's all remember "change is bad"
Lmao thats fucking brilliant that is, you ignore us when the majority of people say that about TCS, yet when we suggest something you don't like, you throw it back at us. I hate to dissapoint you but it doesn't work that way dear. You can't just pick and choose what you want to hear to suit you best.
Sex Education is an important part of teen life, most teens get it in school but they might not remember everything. If they need to ask questions this site is a great place to top up their knowledge. Abstinance does not work, that will only work with teens who believe in it. You cannot brainwash all teens into not having sex before marriage, anyone with half a brain wont fall for it. So it is better to teach teens how to have sex safely. Im disgusted that schools actually try and force that onto you, whatever happened to free will.
Sex advice is completely different to posting porn, one is for the safety and health of people, the other is just entertainment. I will let you decide which is which.
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just how stupid sex before marriage is.
Just another opinion of yours, not everyone thinks that. Isn't it best that the people who will have sex before marriage are tought it safely?
 
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Again no one would encourage sex at all, and we would remind the people to use A condom if they are already going to have sex.

"porn is directly related sex" no it's not. Porn is the act of having sex on tape.
Sex is sex privately.
If someone is talking about their sex life, they still shouldn't be able so show porn, or give out sites beecause most of who aren't old enough (even though some watch it anyways).

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Old July 23rd, 2006, 08:36 AM   #17
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Kiros you go on and on about STD and depression when it comes to sex. Then why can't we offer advice on such things? Do you think that we would actually tell members "you should have unprotected sex and get an STD because that's fun"? I actually believe you think that we would do something like that and that's kind of sad. We're not telling them to go and have sex we are just offering any advice that we could to help them. We shouldn't turn away people for that matter.

Ofcourse porn is related to sex but you are literally putting it on the same level as Sex Advice?? People have sex and giving advice isn't wrong.

and yes it is your opinion but instead of listening to other members, you are integrating your opinion on how you run this site, as clear as it may be What you are doing isn't right because you do not listen to us.

and truth be told the reason why I think you are particularly stubborn on this is because noone likes the Coffee Shop, people think its a useless forum and it takes away from our true general discussion forum: The White Padded Room.

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Having read everyone's opinion I have to say some very good points were made. If we had a separate Sex Ed forum the focus on safe sex it might be a good thing to teach. Like covering all the safe sex content could help people from messing up their life.

Let me think this over and I'll get back to you.

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a forum about sex could help alot of teens. sure there is a possablity of getting a few adult post here and there but that is what mod's are for.

teens are going to keep having sex, adn as we can promote not having sex there going to do it, i personaly think a sex ed forum would be perfect for the people with questions like that. and it will keep some of them out of the puberty forum that way its devided

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in believe that we should allow sex threads. like sex is a big part of our lives wheather we like it or not. we talk about it, some do it, some dont, but its always there. and i know it scares alot of people like "will i do it right?" "how do i have safe sex?" or "what in gods name or STD's and STI's?". these are the type of stuff that people ask and i think we should be able to answer them here. i know we are not proper sex education, but we have experience, and i think thats best. like none of us are qualified in giving advice on other things but through experience we can and do. i just think it would be a good idea, and i am going to stop now cause i am repeating everything that has been said above, sorry!

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